Let's Discuss Shaft!

[kayitsiz 621]

dude ur playing with low levels and this is too old now shafts has laser scope and its bad 

I bought that and MU'ed and nowadays very effective  ^_^

I've used it even in Polygon CP  :lol:

[tony990_Superstar 68]

Paints defeat the purpose of a duel. Imagine if you had savanna. Drugs ruin the purpose of a duel. Boxes encourage campy play. AND MONTE CARLO PFFF

Not if we were both allowed to use boxes. And Monte Carlo is where I get all my points. That's why I am always first in battles.

[Loackie 269]

Not if we were both allowed to use boxes. And Monte Carlo is where I get all my points. That's why I am always first in battles.

Wow, you get ALL your points in Monte Carlo? No map diversity? I was abusing the broken OPness of Firebird at the lower ranks, but I at least learned maps. Also, I can't take it seriously when people think they're "good" because they consistently win Monte Carlo. Even Stadium isn't as bad. The map is extremely camper-heavy in CTF. (TDM is borderline tolerable) Oh, you can't go either ramp because a Rail is guarding. You want to go down the lower route? NOPE, Shaft camping that corridor, and its really only avoidable through invisibility hacks. Want to go up that top path? Yeah, no. You're asking to get creamed if trying to capture the flag that way, even Smokies and Hammers will do full damage. And you can't win without drugs? STRIKE THREE. This literally parallels with the "he can't play without drugs" insult used by 3 year old children around the globe. This is coming from someone who was a hardcore drugger during the winter, burning through about 500 DPs within a 2-week period. Guess what? I DON'T rely on boxes to win. Likewise, I don't believe items have anything to do with the word "skill" unless you are efficient with the items. Guess where being efficient comes from? SKILL. I disabled boxes not only for campy play, but that it unfairly advantages the fastest hull. Also, considering you missed a point-blank shaft scope shot from about 50-80m away TWICE, I am highly doubtful. And please, no excuses.

[tony990_Superstar 68]

Wow, you get ALL your points in Monte Carlo?

Nope just most of them and others come from Rio and sometimes Noise.

 

 

considering you missed a point-blank shaft scope shot from about 50-80m away TWICE, I am highly doubtful.

Twice? I don't even remember that ONCE!

 

 

please, no excuses.

Weren't excuses, just facts  ;)

[Amagi 1,728]

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Edited March 10, 2015 by Stinger911

[Amagi 1,728]

lol because you made 3 rules that really killed the whole point of Tanki. No paints, no boxes lol how do you expect me to win that? I kill people on Monte Carlo all the time. If I start halfway through a Monte Carlo match I will still be 1st or in rare cases 2nd.

Actually, those are the standard rules in Tanki duels. 

If you rely on drugs for kills then you're a horrible Shafter. 

[Athena369 265]

To those who think shaft is a bad weapon:

 

Challenge me in a battle I will obliterate you  :P  :lol:

^ What happens when tanki moderators/officials promote kids I.e noobs with high ego in official competitions. Sigh.... Now I can understand how much of a knowledge this guy has on this game....

[kayitsiz 621]

I think a long range gun should be used for every map at least once.

Even absurd ones...

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

^ What happens when tanki moderators/officials promote kids I.e noobs with high ego in official competitions. Sigh.... Now I can understand how much of a knowledge this guy has on this game....

Ill kill you when I see you on skype  :angry:

[tony990_Superstar 68]

^ What happens when tanki moderators/officials promote kids I.e noobs with high ego in official competitions. Sigh.... Now I can understand how much of a knowledge this guy has on this game....

Obviously more than you  ;) what's your IQ exactly? 2 at best.

[splitterpoint 10,986]

I haven't seen team mates this bad since... well, years.

 

 

Update; fully MU'd scope damage seems to be quite a lot better than I initially thought.

It's still underpowered though.

Edited March 10, 2015 by splitterpoint

[Marine-Corps-Vet 7]

why is there a lazer now???its bullcrap how the enemy can see me. how and i to get a shot off if everyone knows not to go where im looking at because its clear as day that im looking there

[Loackie 269]

Obviously more than you  ;) what's your IQ exactly? 2 at best.

Athena isn't stupid.. Plus, you TOTALLY missed my turret with a scope shot at point blank range at least once. Also, please don't twist the situation like Cartman does. If only I had video proof, you even said something along the lines of "ugh my aim is off" in chat,

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

why is there a lazer now???its bullcrap how the enemy can see me. how and i to get a shot off if everyone knows not to go where im looking at because its clear as day that im looking there

It was implemented late last year. It's made Shaft less powerful, but you can learn to hide it and retain a lot of your element of surprise.

[Loackie 269]

It's made Shaft less powerful

No it hasn't. Not at all. Makes Monte Carlo unplayable now if you're not a Mammoth-Shaft or a hardcore drugger

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

lol because you made 3 rules that really killed the whole point of Tanki. No paints, no boxes lol how do you expect me to win that? I kill people on Monte Carlo all the time. If I start halfway through a Monte Carlo match I will still be 1st or in rare cases 2nd.

You shouldn't rely on only paints and boxes to win. If someone uses a weapon that you're not protected against and uses supplies to counteract the ones you have active, you will be in big trouble. There's a reason why high rank XP battles use few protection paints and often have drop boxes disabled; by breaking down the gameplay to just maneuvering your hull and using your turret, it's much easier to see who's skilled and who's not. If you're not skilled, you'll learn more quickly.

 

I also must note that Monte Carlo is one of the campiest maps in the game, next to Lost Temple. One person with Shaft on the lower bridge can lock down all the traffic there. Sure, it's easy to get kills there (especially if you use supplies), but you're basically shooting at targets that can't fight back effectively. I don't regard Monte Carlo as a good map to judge how skilled someone is with Shaft- a less campy map like Kungur or even a tiny map like Ping-Pong provides a much more challenging experience, and you get to see how they act under pressure.

 

Oh, and by the way, if Loackie can win in a battle with no paints and no boxes, it's possible for you to do that too. Try using them less in normal combat. You'll encounter situations where you won't be able to cop out by using supplies or paints, and it is in these where you learn how to fight the most.

 

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No it hasn't. Not at all. Makes Monte Carlo unplayable now if you're not a Mammoth-Shaft or a hardcore drugger

IMO, the aim stabilization doesn't outweigh the lessened stealth potential. I'd much rather revert to the old Shaft were I give the choice. Hmm, maybe the devs should make a custom version of Shaft similar to the old one as an XT weapon (maybe with a few downsides here and there).

Edited March 12, 2015 by Thekillerpenguin

[Loackie 269]

You shouldn't rely on only paints and boxes to win. If someone uses a weapon that you're not protected against and uses supplies to counteract the ones you have active, you will be in big trouble. There's a reason why high rank XP battles use few protection paints and often have drop boxes disabled; by breaking down the gameplay to just maneuvering your hull and using your turret, it's much easier to see who's skilled and who's not. If you're not skilled, you'll learn more quickly.

 

I also must note that Monte Carlo is one of the campiest maps in the game, next to Lost Temple. One person with Shaft on the lower bridge can lock down all the traffic there. Sure, it's easy to get kills there (especially if you use supplies), but you're basically shooting at targets that can't fight back effectively. I don't regard Monte Carlo as a good map to judge how skilled someone is with Shaft- a less campy map like Kungur or even a tiny map like Ping-Pong provides a much more challenging experience, and you get to see how they act under pressure.

TKP if u sai u iz pru shafty usar he weel aknolidge teh advicse/

[Loackie 269]

PC spazzed, so this is an empty post due to an accidental double post. delete this one if you want

Edited March 12, 2015 by Loackie

[Marine-Corps-Vet 7]

It was implemented late last year. It's made Shaft less powerful, but you can learn to hide it and retain a lot of your element of surprise.

it didnt make shafts weaker it took shafts out. a sniper is meant not to be known until it takes a shot and aa lazer just tell everyone, hey im right here come kill me

[Loackie 269]

it didnt make shafts weaker it took shafts out. a sniper is meant not to be known until it takes a shot and aa lazer just tell everyone, hey im right here come kill me

You can hide the laser by aiming at the edge of an object. Happy now? Unless you're duelling an Isida, most people won't see that laser.

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

TKP if u sai u iz pru shafty usar he weel aknolidge teh advicse/

I haven't seen you using Shaft before, so unfortunately I can't call you that :c

 

You'd probably be a good Shafter if you tried, though.

[tony990_Superstar 68]

Athena isn't stupid.. Plus, you TOTALLY missed my turret with a scope shot at point blank range at least once. Also, please don't twist the situation like Cartman does. If only I had video proof, you even said something along the lines of "ugh my aim is off" in chat,

lol don't make up lies.

 

And Athena follows me every forum I post on basically because she's still upset about the commentary contest thing. It's annoying.

[Marine-Corps-Vet 7]

You can hide the laser by aiming at the edge of an object. Happy now? Unless you're duelling an Isida, most people won't see that laser.

everyone can see that lazer and everytime i use my shaft now no one will even come out they just hide because they know where im at so no im not happy now

[ranjithwarrior 0]

I have a major general account in which I have m3 shaft. The laser is no big drawback and can easily be managed by any skilled shaft user. After the recent update, medium hulls have so much life the a m3 shaft would have to do 12 MUs to kill m2 viking. It has only 205 DP per shot, and it is insufficient to even kill m2 hunter with 1MU. M3 is hardly different from m2. So tank I must increase the power of M3 shaft. The HP update for medium hulls has really disappointed me.

[kayitsiz 621]

You can hide the laser by aiming at the edge of an object. Happy now? Unless you're duelling an Isida, most people won't see that laser.

Problem starts after shot! <_<

Also, you can't hide it from everyone.

Please don' start same discuss. It won't be removed, but we can complain as much as we can.

(if we don't break rules.)

Edited March 12, 2015 by kayitsiz