Let's Discuss Twins!

[Thomas11239 366]

M2 worth buying paired with Hunter?

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

M2 worth buying paired with Hunter?

Sure. :)

[ghost-guns 1,486]

I started using twins again (M4) and forgot how strong this turret can be (because not many people use twins protection now). It is great in small maps like sandal cp.

[Michael828 816]

Just now, ghost-guns said:

I started using twins again (M4) and forgot how strong this turret can be (because not many people use twins protection now). It is great in small maps like sandal cp.

And only on those maps will it perform well. Using Twins on any medium / large map will literally erase any good thoughts you've had of it.. it's just terrible. And because most MM maps aren't small unfortunately, I can't remember the last time I played Twins.

Edited December 3, 2019 by Michael828

[123tim456back 195]

I would like everyone’s opinion on whether twins is high skill or not.  It used to be no skill imo, but the slower projectile speed really makes it much harder to hit enemies.  In my experience, stabilised plasma alt is a must, because maintaining distance is too difficult.  Too close, self damage, too far, shots miss. 

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

2 minutes ago, 123tim456back said:

I would like everyone’s opinion on whether twins is high skill or not.  It used to be no skill imo, but the slower projectile speed really makes it much harder to hit enemies.  In my experience, stabilised plasma alt is a must, because maintaining distance is too difficult.  Too close, self damage, too far, shots miss. 

I don't think you quite know just how good Twins's splash is. I always use the accelerator along with a dedicated Panther module and just rip people apart at longer ranges. Even Ricochets have a hard time going up against this beast.

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

14 minutes ago, 123tim456back said:

I would like everyone’s opinion on whether twins is high skill or not.  It used to be no skill imo, but the slower projectile speed really makes it much harder to hit enemies.  In my experience, stabilised plasma alt is a must, because maintaining distance is too difficult.  Too close, self damage, too far, shots miss. 

I don't really care about Twins' self-damage, its not really that big of a deal unless you're on the following maps: Island and Ping Pong.

9 minutes ago, Tidebreaker said:

I don't think you quite know just how good Twins's splash is. I always use the accelerator along with a dedicated Panther module and just rip people apart at longer ranges. Even Ricochets have a hard time going up against this beast.

Same here! The splash is great for the new Siege mode and when gold boxes drop.

[123tim456back 195]

4 minutes ago, Tidebreaker said:

I don't think you quite know just how good Twins's splash is. I always use the accelerator along with a dedicated Panther module and just rip people apart at longer ranges. Even Ricochets have a hard time going up against this beast.

I played stock twins before, and only recently bought the stabilised plasma alteration on my alt.  

 

The splash useful only when tanks are next to each other, and the damage is minuscule when on the edge of the splash radius.  Maybe it is different for accelerator, since you won’t risk self damage as much, but it lowers the dps.  Same situation with Rico’s MFS, I guess I just don’t like the alteration that much.  

 

Also, stabilised plasma opens up a module slot for a more common turret.

 

Oh, and it’s and you typed “I don’t think you quite know just how good”.  Missed the “don’t”, I’m assuming it’s a typo.

[123tim456back 195]

4 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

Same here! The splash is great for the new Siege mode and when gold boxes drop.

Splash radius is far too small to hit more than 2 targets at once.  You will deal damage to yourself too, unless you don’t care for the 1k gold.  

 

Siege is just...Siege.  

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

1 minute ago, 123tim456back said:

Splash radius is far too small to hit more than 2 targets at once.  You will deal damage to yourself too, unless you don’t care for the 1k gold.  

 

Siege is just...Siege.  

You'll never know when the splash damage will come in handy.

Also, the splash radius of twins is 3 meters, which is a diameter of 6 meters, which is comparable to the size of viking from head to tail. Its pretty decent.

[123tim456back 195]

9 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

I don't really care about Twins' self-damage, its not really that big of a deal unless you're on the following maps: Island and Ping Pong.

Sorry, second thought, and I don’t know how to multiquote when editing(not posting).  It just creates a new post.  

 

Do you play twins on other maps with plasma accelerator?  For me, stock twins is unplayable as I can’t get too close nor too far.  

 

Also, I find it difficult to track when shots are alternating at a quick fire rate. 

3 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

You'll never know when the splash damage will come in handy.

And when the self damage comes in.  Splash damage rarely helps me. Perhaps it is just me.

4 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

Also, the splash radius of twins is 3 meters, which is a diameter of 6 meters, which is comparable to the size of viking from head to tail. Its pretty decent.

No idea it was that big.  However, damage decreases as it reaches the radius.  So, it really isn’t that effective.  

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

6 minutes ago, 123tim456back said:

Do you play twins on other maps with plasma accelerator?  For me, stock twins is unplayable as I can’t get too close nor too far.

Yes, I use the accelerator on all MM battles.

 

6 minutes ago, 123tim456back said:

Sorry, second thought, and I don’t know how to multiquote when editing(not posting).  It just creates a new post.

Just highlight a piece of text and click the "quote selection" button the pops up

 

7 minutes ago, 123tim456back said:

And when the self damage comes in.  Splash damage rarely helps me. Perhaps it is just me.

It all comes down to how the player uses the turrets.

 

8 minutes ago, 123tim456back said:

No idea it was that big.  However, damage decreases as it reaches the radius.  So, it really isn’t that effective.

Yeah, but even if you deal like 1 damage to an enemy nearby the intended target, when your teammates kill that enemy, you'll get exp for assisting the kill.

[123tim456back 195]

8 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

Just highlight a piece of text and click the "quote selection" button the pops up

Thanks.

9 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

It all comes down to how the player uses the turrets

True.  I prefer playing up close and personal, especially offense.  Self damage becomes more important there compared to midfield or defending. 

 

11 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

Yeah, but even if you deal like 1 damage to an enemy nearby the intended target, when your teammates kill that enemy, you'll get exp for assisting the kill.

Fantastic point, I completely overlooked that.  I don’t encounter those situations often though, and I play differently, so each to their own.  

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

4 hours ago, 123tim456back said:

I would like everyone’s opinion on whether twins is high skill or not.  It used to be no skill imo, but the slower projectile speed really makes it much harder to hit enemies.  In my experience, stabilised plasma alt is a must, because maintaining distance is too difficult.  Too close, self damage, too far, shots miss. 

Unfortunately, Twins just isn't a turret for me, as I had first learned back with the Black Friday Container gold bug where I bought Ram Kit before the forced server restart and absolutely hated how it (Twins) felt. So I knew there not to buy that ever. Then come more recently, I got lucky with 300,000 crystals from a container, on an account that needed it the most. The Jam Kit (Twins + Dictator) was there, and it was the last day to buy it. I was too impatient and bought the Kit hoping to give Twins another try after all this time. Once again, it was an awful experience. And to make things worse, when the new kits came out 2 days later, I could have gotten the Guard Kit or the Striker + Titan Kit, which suited me better. 

 

So it was there, stuck at almost M2, where I only used the Dictator and the M2 Twins protection module from the kit. Somehow I ended up with all 3 of its alterations, just to see how they were. Tried Plasma Core Accelerators first in a Magistral battle and it didn't see much use. Switched to Stock and I did slightly better although I suffered a lot of self-damage from teammates because I like to be near my teammates when I use Dictator. 

 

During a sale, I bought Stable Plasma. I did well with it because of the impact force increase and I could ram into enemies without much fear. Then, I bought Heavy Plasmagun. Nicola_M seemed fond of this alteration and I had only used it in the Test Server before. As expected, more than half of my shots didn't deal any damage to the enemy because of the slow projectile speed. It mainly worked on stationary targets.You'd need to get in close in order to hit your projectiles but that comes with the risk of even higher self-damage, but the splash damage was worth it sometimes. I used that during the New Year Celebrations on the map and did really well with it, mainly because everyone was mostly stationary wither waiting for the gold or huddled in the pile. 

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Of course, the parameters would be most efficient at M4 and I have hard times as a light hull dodging projectiles from experienced Twins players, even from range. 

 

One thing about Twins is that it's not as scary as some of the other turrets with Viking's Overdrive. I'm able to survive against them if I have enough distance away from them. 

 

Overall, I think it requires more skill than it used to, and it's not a turret I enjoy playing, but I'll willingly use it sometimes for variety. 

[Shwax 64]

12 minutes ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Unfortunately, Twins just isn't a turret for me, as I had first learned back with the Black Friday Container gold bug where I bought Ram Kit before the forced server restart and absolutely hated how it (Twins) felt. So I knew there not to buy that ever. Then come more recently, I got lucky with 300,000 crystals from a container, on an account that needed it the most. The Jam Kit (Twins + Dictator) was there, and it was the last day to buy it. I was too impatient and bought the Kit hoping to give Twins another try after all this time. Once again, it was an awful experience. And to make things worse, when the new kits came out 2 days later, I could have gotten the Guard Kit or the Striker + Titan Kit, which suited me better. 

 

So it was there, stuck at almost M2, where I only used the Dictator and the M2 Twins protection module from the kit. Somehow I ended up with all 3 of its alterations, just to see how they were. Tried Plasma Core Accelerators first in a Magistral battle and it didn't see much use. Switched to Stock and I did slightly better although I suffered a lot of self-damage from teammates because I like to be near my teammates when I use Dictator. 

 

During a sale, I bought Stable Plasma. I did well with it because of the impact force increase and I could ram into enemies without much fear. Then, I bought Heavy Plasmagun. Nicola_M seemed fond of this alteration and I had only used it in the Test Server before. As expected, more than half of my shots didn't deal any damage to the enemy because of the slow projectile speed. It mainly worked on stationary targets.You'd need to get in close in order to hit your projectiles but that comes with the risk of even higher self-damage, but the splash damage was worth it sometimes. I used that during the New Year Celebrations on the map and did really well with it, mainly because everyone was mostly stationary wither waiting for the gold or huddled in the pile. 

'

Of course, the parameters would be most efficient at M4 and I have hard times as a light hull dodging projectiles from experienced Twins players, even from range. 

 

One thing about Twins is that it's not as scary as some of the other turrets with Viking's Overdrive. I'm able to survive against them if I have enough distance away from them. 

 

Overall, I think it requires more skill than it used to, and it's not a turret I enjoy playing, but I'll willingly use it sometimes for variety. 

Yeah

 

The splash damaage is kind of useless IMO, but if it's supposed to serve as a nerf it's perfect.

[999_noob 10]

On ‎1‎/‎26‎/‎2020 at 5:29 AM, 123tim456back said:

I would like everyone’s opinion on whether twins is high skill or not.  It used to be no skill imo, but the slower projectile speed really makes it much harder to hit enemies.  In my experience, stabilised plasma alt is a must, because maintaining distance is too difficult.  Too close, self damage, too far, shots miss. https://en.tankiforum.com/topic/177142-lets-discuss-twins/?page=122#

Yeah!!! I'll even use twin with stable plasma and medium range MM, got first place in DM it's very good turrent to use

[Potdindy 866]

This turret...twins users are By FAR the most likely to stop the game objective to chase me around an object, while holding space of course, or to follow me after I spawn. Sooo many times Ive gone around and around and around a piece of terrain with the twins following...like "Alright were gonna do this all night if you want".

[Potdindy 866]

So, following up on my previous post, yesterday, in ONE battle, this twins viking kept ignoring everyone else to chase after me...probably bc i was a wasp...I may have dropped 3 bombs on him, so...don't think he was very happy. Got him every time

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

On 2/21/2020 at 7:48 AM, Potdindy said:

This turret...twins users are By FAR the most likely to stop the game objective to chase me around an object, while holding space of course, or to follow me after I spawn. Sooo many times Ive gone around and around and around a piece of terrain with the twins following...like "Alright were gonna do this all night if you want".

 

On 2/23/2020 at 11:57 AM, Potdindy said:

So, following up on my previous post, yesterday, in ONE battle, this twins viking kept ignoring everyone else to chase after me...probably bc i was a wasp...I may have dropped 3 bombs on him, so...don't think he was very happy. Got him every time

I find that twins, firebird, smoky, and ricochet users follow you more than any other turret.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

On 1/26/2020 at 10:29 AM, 123tim456back said:

I would like everyone’s opinion on whether twins is high skill or not.  It used to be no skill imo, but the slower projectile speed really makes it much harder to hit enemies.  In my experience, stabilised plasma alt is a must, because maintaining distance is too difficult.  Too close, self damage, too far, shots miss. 

I made it M4 (aka MK8) in 2019 (maybe 2018 I can't remember) and I never even use it anymore because I get shot to pieces before I reach the enemy. I don't think it's the easiest turret to use anymore, not like in the past.

It used to be excellent in DM mode, but since that was removed from matchmaking I haven't played it.

I'm playing less and less now, so maybe I'll seek out some old polygon PRO battles in DM mode.

Edited April 24, 2020 by ghost-guns

[Nicola_M 173]

On 1/26/2020 at 3:01 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

Then, I bought Heavy Plasmagun. Nicola_M seemed fond of this alteration and I had only used it in the Test Server before. As expected, more than half of my shots didn't deal any damage to the enemy because of the slow projectile speed. It mainly worked on stationary targets.You'd need to get in close in order to hit your projectiles but that comes with the risk of even higher self-damage, but the splash damage was worth it sometimes.

I've always said, I use Plasmagun as a Splash&Dash.  For close-in stuff it'll get you killed quickly.

I make a dash towards the target while firing from about 10 tank lengths away (from that distance they don't seem to hear the shots).

They usually don't notice until there is a large cloud of shots arriving on them, but Plasmagun are 250-damage per shot so not many needed for a kill.

Pair it with a fast hull like Wasp and you can lay down quite a nice big cloud on them.

[Potdindy 866]

2 hours ago, ghost-guns said:

I made it M4 (aka MK8) in 2019 (maybe 2018 I can't remember) and I never even use it anymore because I get shot to pieces before I reach the enemy. I don't think it's the easiest turret to use anymore, not like in the past.

It used to be excellent in DM mode, but since that was removed from matchmaking I haven't played it.

I'm playing less and less now, so maybe I'll seek out some old polygon PRO battles in DM mode.

WHat changes have been made to twins recently?

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

2 hours ago, Potdindy said:

WHat changes have been made to twins recently?

Latest change was 2 weeks before the latest batch of alterations (2018). 

[Zero.Two 1]

Hey there! I have a question that I'm hoping I could get some feedback on please... 

With the current state of Tanki, if I could only buy one of twins' alterations, which one would you recommend me to get?

Note: I mainly play as a dictator, and I prefer team battles, mostly CTF and CP. I stay away from DMs. Thanks in advance!

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]