Let's Discuss Freeze!

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Also short-range turrets tend to have a lower D/L

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Agreed - save your crystals folks. You're going to need them when M3 Alterations finally hit.

[Hroft 4]

I got so much points, because brought one flag and killed most of enemies who touched our flag. K/D isn't very important here, your primary goal is catching and slowing down 

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Yeah, Freeze is the new hotness. I put a mostly stock M3 Freeze on my M4 Viking and just shredded through a Poly CP battle.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

I also think that all of the polls associated with these various "Let's Discuss X Hull/Turret" threads need to be zeroed out and reset. Post rebalance the current results are highly misleading.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Freeze and Fire have no penetration any more.

 

I feel like:

yeah they fixed it! - Oh, no they did'nt.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Freeze and Fire have no penetration any more.

 

I feel like:

yeah they fixed it! - Oh, no they did'nt.

wait...WHAT!!!!

 

Ok bye guys I'm quitting Tanki. It was nice knowing you for a while.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

wait...WHAT!!!!

 

Ok bye guys I'm quitting Tanki. It was nice knowing you for a while.

So maybe penetration.. or partially penetration is a good candidate for M3 alternation :P

 

Nah honestly..

The freeze alternation with increaseing the max-dmg-range + limiting the cone was usefull.. and now with missing penetration.. it is kind of crap. From now on you need the cone to deal damage on multiple targets.

And light hulls will have a harder life using Freeze, as they can not hide themselfes as efficient

 

What about a dictator.. it has a high mounted turret.

It could deal damage to two tanks, as it hit's the second one from above :p

Edited October 28, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Yes maybe the whole point was to sell dictator, as it's the slowest medium hull and they all have the same hp.

 

Looks like freeze is still good: :)

 

 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

^ I didn't use any drugs.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Freeze's DPS is just insane. I can't quote numbers right now but from battle experience, once a Freeze closes range, about the only survivor is a drugging hammer.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

In my battle experience the only survivor is a drugging rail- One shot kill :D

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Anyone else noticed that the freeze effect was again nerfed to .6 per second? 

[Abhi345 0]

The freeze M1 is amazing! I usually don't play with anything else now. The 50% off was great for me to buy it.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

The freeze M1 is amazing! I usually don't play with anything else now. The 50% off was great for me to buy it.

Against m1's and m0's, sure, the freeze is amazing.  Against m3's...not so much.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Anyone else noticed that the freeze effect was again nerfed to .6 per second?

I've noticed that the Freeze effect at M3 is non existent when your opponent has a module and/or double armor.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I've noticed that the Freeze effect at M3 is non existent when your opponent has a module and/or double armor.

Freeze effect needs to be stronger at m3 and weaker at m0/m1.  Many players I know have been asking for this, but the developers seem to think a consistent level of freezing makes sense.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Freeze effect needs to be stronger at m3 and weaker at m0/m1. Many players I know have been asking for this, but the developers seem to think a consistent level of freezing makes sense.

Same goes for supplies, but that's another thread :D

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Same goes for supplies, but that's another thread :D

No, supplies should be stronger at lower ranks and weaker at high ranks...since they progress in level of usage as you get higher ranked.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

I was looking at the alteration for freeze. With the penetration power removed, high pressure pump is now only good for range, right?

 

And what is up with the pricing on alterations? More expensive than the turret itself??? :blink:

[Heles 9,220]

I was looking at the alteration for freeze. With the penetration power removed, high pressure pump is now only good for range, right?

 

And what is up with the pricing on alterations? More expensive than the turret itself??? :blink:

price? 

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I was looking at the alteration for freeze. With the penetration power removed, high pressure pump is now only good for range, right?

 

And what is up with the pricing on alterations? More expensive than the turret itself??? :blink:

it increases only the damage withing your range, as it extend the [very short range] within you can deal [max damage]. So the advantage reduces down to the very first second of your aproach and the start of your attack, while you are not yet in max_damage_range.

 

While it was a cool thing with penetration, it is not so nice without penetration now. The cone angle of 20 degrees seems truely needed now, in order to target two targets at once without penetration.

Edited November 4, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Freeze/Wasp is good for stopping people who took your team's flag on CTF, what with the fact it's fast and with the near instant freezing the player won't be able to do a thing about it! Also, if you have an Isida/Wasp follow him around he won't have to worry much about dying. Get some snipers to watch over and protect them they can take the flag as well.

 

Smoky is good for close range support so they can try and stop any attackers.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Freeze/Wasp is good for stopping people who took your team's flag on CTF, what with the fact it's fast and with the near instant freezing the player won't be able to do a thing about it! Also, if you have an Isida/Wasp follow him around he won't have to worry much about dying. Get some snipers to watch over and protect them they can take the flag as well.

 

Smoky is good for close range support so they can try and stop any attackers.

Freeze/wasp is not the best for defending.  Freeze/viking is much better.  Viking has decent speed to chase down runaways but the extra armor really counts when a full-on drugger comes in.  Plus, the freezing is not near instant now.  Freeze/wasp is only good for midfield and intercepting flag takers.

 

Best 5-tank defense in medium/large maps.:

 

Viking-freeze

Dictator-twins

titan-vulcan

Hunter-Isida

mammoth-shaft.

Edited November 4, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Freeze/wasp is not the best for defending.  Freeze/viking is much better.  Viking has decent speed to chase down runaways but the extra armor really counts when a full-on drugger comes in.  Plus, the freezing is not near instant now.  Freeze/wasp is only good for midfield and intercepting flag takers.

 

Best 5-tank defense in medium/large maps.:

 

Viking-freeze

Dictator-twins

titan-vulcan

Hunter-Isida

mammoth-shaft.

You forgot to add me to that list with Viking and Smoky