Let's Discuss Viking!

[Pyre 3,485]

Here are my complaints :)  :

 

- Viking speed has changed, I think it is too slow now, with or without speed supply

- Vulcan turret is now very weak, almost unusable (except with overdrive & supplies)

I dont think so. Its the fastest medium hull. I have enough trouble already trying to escape them in my Wasp, lets not make Viking any faster :P

Its pretty bad in stock form, but as a Vulcan lover I can testify that it becomes playable on loarger maps with the "incendiary band" alteration. Just expect to use a lot of repair kits to keep from burning to death.

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

Here are my complaints :)  :

 

- Viking speed has changed, I think it is too slow now, with or without speed supply

- Vulcan turret is now very weak, almost unusable (except with overdrive & supplies)

I haven't really noticed a decrease in Viking's speed whenever I used it recently. 

 

 

 

Vulcan can still function. It's just that you'd be frustrated when you can't finish that enemy and your energy gauge is almost depleted. This is me talking about M1 Vulcan in the low ranks (Warrant Officer 1). I'm not sure how it plays in the medium and high ranks. 

[Mountaingoat11 26]

viking feels slow sometimes. probably because I'm always playing hornet

[ghost-guns 1,486]

hi,

I' am experiencing a (substancial) slowdown in viking speed, with or without the speed supply. despite I didnt see anywhere viking speed was modified.

Am I wrong ?

and how much speed decrease ? (in my opinion too much)

I noticed it was a bit slow as well... thought it was just me. Oh well not like I'm going to change hull now.

[Heles 9,220]

viking feels slow sometimes. probably because I'm always playing hornet

Hornet feels fast sometimes. Probably because i'm always playing viking.

 

That's me :p

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

I use an M2 Viking 10/10.  I haven't played on this account for quite a long time, several months, but I have been playing on a lower ranked account also with Viking.

 

Something just seems wrong.  I am getting one shotted by literally every turret out there...and I immediately pop a DA as soon as I spawn in.  At my current rank I do have to play against M3/M4 players all the time, but even still my Viking is like paper.  I can't stay alive long enough to get a shot off most of the time.  I even come up against another Viking M2 and 99% of the time die while he seems to thrive even after killing me.  My Viking seems to be very fragil while other Vikings seem to hold up better.  Is it drones making the difference?...I don't use one.

 

Viking is not like this in lower ranks...even M2 lower ranks, but at my rank 22 I have a shorter life expectancy than what I wold expect from an M0 Wasp playing against M2 turrets.

 

Anyone else have this problem?  Insights?  I need some advice and/or help.

[wolverine848 13,097]

I use an M2 Viking 10/10.  I haven't played on this account for quite a long time, several months, but I have been playing on a lower ranked account also with Viking.

 

Something just seems wrong.  I am getting one shotted by literally every turret out there...and I immediately pop a DA as soon as I spawn in.  At my current rank I do have to play against M3/M4 players all the time, but even still my Viking is like paper.  I can't stay alive long enough to get a shot off most of the time.  I even come up against another Viking M2 and 99% of the time die while he seems to thrive even after killing me.  My Viking seems to be very fragil while other Vikings seem to hold up better.  Is it drones making the difference?...I don't use one.

 

Viking is not like this in lower ranks...even M2 lower ranks, but at my rank 22 I have a shorter life expectancy than what I wold expect from an M0 Wasp playing against M2 turrets.

 

Anyone else have this problem?  Insights?  I need some advice and/or help.

ODs + Drones + alterations all contribute to fast killing.  Killing tanks has been given more attention than surviving.

[Bantem 3]

awsome hull use it every battle incredible hp at m1 with double armour

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

awsome hull use it every battle incredible hp at m1 with double armour

Well it's awesome looking, but that's about it. It's stats are lousy compared to hunters stats.

[Potdindy 866]

Well it's awesome looking, but that's about it. It's stats are lousy compared to hunters stats.

Last time we talked about this, I wanted to try it out myself. I figured ppl say this a lot so it must be true. Switched to viking freeze and...idk why I'd ever play with Hunter. The weight thing really only is a problem if you are using a medium range turret like smoky or railgun. With close range turrets it is insane

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Last time we talked about this, I wanted to try it out myself. I figured ppl say this a lot so it must be true. Switched to viking freeze and...idk why I'd ever play with Hunter. The weight thing really only is a problem if you are using a medium range turret like smoky or railgun. With close range turrets it is insane

True, but still is a HUGE problem. That weight difference between hunter and Viking is enough to say that Viking is unusable for turrets that need stability to do well like thunder, railgun, striker, shaft, Gauss, etc.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I mainly use it because it's the only hull with speed my giant thumbs can control on mobile. I do respect it's speed but being a flat midget isn't too much of an advantage.

[XxStriker 519]

I mainly use it because it's the only hull with speed my giant thumbs can control on mobile. I do respect it's speed but being a flat midget isn't too much of an advantage.

It is if you want to use the high pressure pump alterations or stock isida... Or predict striker against higher hulls when using uranium, as you won't need to stop (Unless the enemy's too far, in which case it'll still fly over them).

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

I was surpirsed. many minutes into the battle, all I kept seeing were Vikings. Until i actually counted it, and there were at least 10 Vikings in this battle:

 

 

I had thought that the entire enemy team was Vikings, which would make that a first time occurrence for me, but nope. They had 7 Vikings and a Titan. I saw 3 Vikings on my team so that's 10 Vikings in the battle. I believe my team had 7 players before the battle ended, so 67% of the hulls in that battle were Vikings. 10 out of 15. 

 

Very interesting. That is 7 Viking Overdrives to be wary of. 7 Overdrives that could have popped at any time. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

I was surpirsed. many minutes into the battle, all I kept seeing were Vikings. Until i actually counted it, and there were at least 10 Vikings in this battle:

 

I had thought that the entire enemy team was Vikings, which would make that a first time occurrence for me, but nope. They had 7 Vikings and a Titan. I saw 3 Vikings on my team so that's 10 Vikings in the battle. I believe my team had 7 players before the battle ended, so 67% of the hulls in that battle were Vikings. 10 out of 15. 

 

Very interesting. That is 7 Viking Overdrives to be wary of. 7 Overdrives that could have popped at any time. 

Could be worse - could have been 7 wasps with Bombs.

 

They are everywhere tonight.  Multiple wasps in the new island map - freeze or fire.. always equipping DA first to survive long enough to drop a bomb. Even with all those buildings they are getting multiple enemies with 1 bomb.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Could be worse - could have been 7 wasps with Bombs.

 

They are everywhere tonight.  Multiple wasps in the new island map - freeze or fire.. always equipping DA first to survive long enough to drop a bomb. Even with all those buildings they are getting multiple enemies with 1 bomb.

Legend battles? 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Could be worse - could have been 7 wasps with Bombs.

 

They are everywhere tonight.  Multiple wasps in the new island map - freeze or fire.. always equipping DA first to survive long enough to drop a bomb. Even with all those buildings they are getting multiple enemies with 1 bomb.

Or 4 titans meaning that half the team would be indestructible.

[XxStriker 519]

Or 4 titans meaning that half the team would be indestructible.

Only for 1 hornet thunder to 3 shot them all in one fell swoop.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Yeah, perhaps the Viking kits are the best at the lower ranks because I was just in a battle with 13 Vikings.

 

I spawned halfway into the battle and I saw 3 different Viking Overdrives go off in less than 6 seconds. 

 

Coming down to the end, I realised that all I was seeing were Viking, so I counted them as best as possible and the only non-Viking hulls were me (as a Mammoth) and Juggler Kit user. 

 

 

Perhaps this is why there are many players using Viking in the higher ranks. They've played with it for so long that they become somewhat numb to the ragdolling effect. Just today I played against a Vulcan Viking and he kept control under impact force. 

 

 

Where's the hull diversity, fellas?

 

Edited August 2, 2019 by TheCongoSpider

[XxStriker 519]

I'm quite sure it goes like this: There's a viking thunder m1 kit, which is what most buyers get directly from the shop, and this makes the combo look overpowered, bringing more people to use viking, and on and on... Though you get used to the impacts if you use it for a lot of time. (I kinda have, but it's still awful)

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I'd argue Keeper is the kit that really dominates the lower ranks, since Smoky M1 is an absolute beast to have down there and you can MU it to M2 easily to curbstomp some poor eleven year old who's never played before.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

I'd argue Keeper is the kit that really dominates the lower ranks, since Smoky M1 is an absolute beast to have down there and you can MU it to M2 easily to curbstomp some poor eleven year old who's never played before.

Yeah but Titan doesn't allow you to get quad-kills in 3 seconds. Why would they ever use something that doesn't give them the rush of dopamine after a quad-kill? x)

 

I think Viking's Overdrive has that effect on new players. 

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Ah-ah-aaaah-ah

Ah-ah-aaaah-ah

 

They come from the land of the ice and snow

Where the Smokies pop and the Freezes blow

 

The Dictator so strong

Will drive our hulls to new grounds

Fight the horde, sing and cry

"Valhalla I am coming!"

 

On we roll on the Speed Boost's roar

Our only goal will be the Rio shore

 

 

They come from the land of the ice and snow

Where the Smokies pop and the Freezes blow

 

So soft your Wasps so green

Can whisper tales of gore

Of how we turned the tides of war

We are your overloooooords

 

On we roll on Speed Boost's roar

Our only goal will be the Rio shore

 

So now you'd better stop and respawn upon your salted ground

For each of us can win the day despite all of your Magnums' sound

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Yeah but Titan doesn't allow you to get quad-kills in 3 seconds. Why would they ever use something that doesn't give them the rush of dopamine after a quad-kill? x)

 

I think Viking's Overdrive has that effect on new players.

 

1) titans OD lasts 20 seconds while Vikings OD is a third of that.

 

2) titans OD can recharge within 2 minutes and 20 seconds while Vikings OD recharges within 4 minutes and 20 seconds which is almost twice as long.

 

3) it is impossible to kill titan in it dome without using hornets OD, hunters OD, or Mammoths OD, while Viking can still easily be killed even while using its OD.

 

4) titans dome only has a few counters against it, while Vikings OD can be countered in so many ways.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

1) titans OD lasts 20 seconds while Vikings OD is a third of that.

 

2) titans OD can recharge within 2 minutes and 20 seconds while Vikings OD recharges within 4 minutes and 20 seconds which is almost twice as long.

 

3) it is impossible to kill titan in it dome without using hornets OD, hunters OD, or Mammoths OD, while Viking can still easily be killed even while using its OD.

 

4) titans dome only has a few counters against it, while Vikings OD can be countered in so many ways.

The main gag I was trying to pull was that Titan's Overdrive doesn't allow you to feel a rush as Viking's Overdrive would. Which may explain why there are many medium huls as well as light hulls compared to Titan. The gameplay may be too slow for them and Viking's Overdrive heats things up every once in a while.