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@damn_slow: raffnix suggested to have 15 players registered who'll fight, and all the others to be unofficial member. Or example L7 - only 10 players got the paint, the others did not.

 

@Xena: your league 3/4 clan you mean?

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My precedent post has now been edited and finalised.

 

 

 

And here I find myself again quoting the same guy from .de forum who ninja'd me on raising this point
 

 

 

How are we supposed to compete in the same tournament which will not be totally fair at the end of the day simply because some people are living closer to game servers and others farther.  As the guy mentions above, the slaughter in xp games.  For all those who plays XP/BP games on server 1 knows this all too well.  We all suffer at the hand of the russian teams not cause they are fantastically superior than us.  They just have that ~300 milliseconds advantage over us.

 

0.3 of a second is not much to many people, but in high level games its a real hard heavy hammer slamming down on your heard.  At medium levels any smoky player can make a railer miss his shot by nudging him as soon as his rail lights up.  So its supposed to be, but is not the case for all of us.  For instance if I rely on this method to make a railman miss his shot, i'm dead !!! 

 

Cause of the minute minuscule lag.  I have to have recourse to anticipation shots to make them miss.  And this works nice when its against medium players, but if its in a high level clan war with elite players, they easily pick up on that and however accurate my anticipation have been on the BF against randoms, at pro level its utterly useless !!!

 

How are we supposed to compete against those guys ?



And its even worst for guys playing close proximity weapons like freeze, fire, isida.   During game play I found myself using an isida with a reduced effectiveness of 0.8 seconds of its full charge.  That's almost a full second over a charge of ~5 seconds lost due to lag.  This is how it feels with just a lag of ~0.28 seconds on average. 

 

This is a lot in battle at high ranks, and in clan wars there is no words to describe it.  

 

So I ask again, how are we supposed to compete fairly against that ??

 




 

This here is a great opportunity for a dev/technician of the concerned department to come and explain things to us in more details than just "new servers are coming + we are reducing traffic and working on a new client" .

What are the developments in progress, what stage they have reached, what problems are being encountered, what is the ETA , what is being done to smooth out the difference between those closer to servers and those farther,,, we want to know everything.  

 

In fact at this point we the international community (and perhaps our german brothers) should be privileged on the news scoop here about the lags as we feel we are more affected by it than our russian brothers.

 

 

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This is a change that will be made in all communities so that we have a common standard of cybersport. They are vague because these are not rules. Actual rules will be posted later, this text is just an explanation, a teaser of what is yet to come.

 

It will all be mentioned in rules.

 

 

4. A difficult quesion, wait for the rules, that would be the best thing.

All the speculation and ideas are really good, but as has been said, I think it better to just wait for the rules to come out. I'm pretty certain everyone will have enough time to adjust to them.

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This system definitely favors higher ranked players. I am of the opinion that something similar should be created for the people that cannot afford m2's and have several m1's. Maybe a different league is the solution.

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This is a most welcome discount. Thank you to Seymon Kirav and the rest of the Tanki crew for making this happen.

Just one suggestion, how about for christmas PayPal is 25% off? Please?

 

It is a honour to be eating a boiled egg. It may very well bring good fortune!

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Regarding the gap in announcing news as such, there is no gap.

 

The thing is that the information about Top League tournament has nothing to do with our community as the Top League itself only consists of Russian clans. I have no idea why Germans posted it, just an unnecessary piece of information. Some guys have problems with reading walls of text, this way they can concentrate on what really matters.

Same thing with information about Streams, I skipped this bit on purpose as we plan to stream not only Top League battles. We will stream the most interesting battles no matter what league thay play in.

 

The thing is that if you don't find something mentioned in a EN topic when this bit exists in a RU one, it doesn't mean someone is too lazy to translate everything, it means that texts are adapted for the needs of community, if you want me to work like a robot and give you 100% exact translations about things that don't relate to our clans in any ways, I will do it.

 

About being closer or further from servers, I think it's no secret that we are moving to European servers quite soon (January most likely), so the best ping will be in Europe. American players should notice an improvement as well.

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The thing is that the information about Top League tournament has nothing to do with our community as the Top League itself only consists of Russian clans.

 

So, imagine. English clan gets in best of 16 in league 2. Plays CC8 and ends up on #15/32. Basically that means it's better than 2 clans in the top league. Wouldn't it deserve a place in the top league then?
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So, imagine. English clan gets in best of 16 in league 2. Plays CC8 and ends up on #15/32. Basically that means it's better than 2 clans in the top league. Wouldn't it deserve a place in the top league then?

it wont happen :lol:

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I think we are underestimating English clans hugely if we talk like this. English clans have never, or 1/2 times, fought with Russian clans. We don't know how big the difference is between the clans. And I think before we start saying Russians are way better, and English won't have an oppurtunity to get in the Top League we need to have facts, results, something where on we can see who's better. We don't have these, so we need to make this sure first before we start underestimating English clans. 

 

Example: Noob Army - These guys won the Lucky 7 (English only) by far. Even the final ended with a 5-1, not a 2-1 or a 1-0. A difference of 4 captures. These guys can compete Russians I think. They won't win the first times the top clans, but I think they make a good oppurtunity between the Russians as they are the best English clan by far. (From an objective view, not saying because I am a member of that clan. I think people can confirm what I just said).

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I think we are underestimating English clans hugely if we talk like this. English clans have never, or 1/2 times, fought with Russian clans. We don't know how big the difference is between the clans. And I think before we start saying Russians are way better, and English won't have an oppurtunity to get in the Top League we need to have facts, results, something where on we can see who's better. We don't have these, so we need to make this sure first before we start underestimating English clans. 

Agreed with that.

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I think we are underestimating English clans hugely if we talk like this. English clans have never, or 1/2 times, fought with Russian clans. We don't know how big the difference is between the clans. And I think before we start saying Russians are way better, and English won't have an oppurtunity to get in the Top League we need to have facts, results, something where on we can see who's better. We don't have these, so we need to make this sure first before we start underestimating English clans. 

 

Example: Noob Army - These guys won the Lucky 7 (English only) by far. Even the final ended with a 5-1, not a 2-1 or a 1-0. A difference of 4 captures. These guys can compete Russians I think. They won't win the first times the top clans, but I think they make a good oppurtunity between the Russians as they are the best English clan by far. (From an objective view, not saying because I am a member of that clan. I think people can confirm what I just said).

You guys really have not fought real Russian clans <_<

When fighting Russian clans, they know that they can win so they use 6 out of 6 people attacking at all times (no joke).

Even the best english clan has no chance vs a pro russian clan.

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So, imagine. English clan gets in best of 16 in league 2. Plays CC8 and ends up on #15/32. Basically that means it's better than 2 clans in the top league. Wouldn't it deserve a place in the top league then?

If it happens, I think everyone will be more than happy. The thing is that I skipped a bit of rules on purpose as it describes the current top league tournament, and if EN clans get to the top league, they will start playing in top tournaments only starting from next season.

CC8 rules are a different thing and they will be posted as soon as they are ready.  

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And we'll be doing EN-only tournaments as well. Want to fight Russians, contact them and have clan wars or enter international tournaments.

Don't want to fight with them, choose only exlusively English tournaments.

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English clans have never, or 1/2 times, fought with Russian clans. We don't know how big the difference is between the clans.

You guys really have not fought real Russian clans <_<

Thanks for the confirmation? :D

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I really like the idea of a league system, but why don't allow bigger clans to have 2 teams in the leagues. For example the first one is league 2 and the 2nd one is in league 4. A rule would prohibit that both teams can play in the same league and the members can't swap (or only in certain conditions).

The clans would ensure that their lower ranks (in this case lower equipment) get a feeling for the competition and mature into better players and the higher ranks would get better substitutes later on.

 

It would be a bit more like professional sport teams. They always have teams with talents in lower leagues.

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if you want me to work like a robot and give you 100% exact translations about things that don't relate to our clans in any ways, I will do it.

woahhh !!!! sorry there .. did not mean to make you or anyone in particular angry .. I apologise if any of what I said was offensive to you ... I just want to have a healthy debate for the community here and got no intentions of starting up some fireworks .

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The thing is that if you don't find something mentioned in a EN topic when this bit exists in a RU one, it doesn't matter someone is too lazy to translate everything, it means that texts are adapted for the needs of community, if you want me to work like a robot and give you 100% exact translations about things that don't relate to our clans in any ways, I will do it.

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Dude just use Google translate and fix the stuff that dont make sense and I'm Russian too so I would know Edited by Bayside_Wisconsin

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