Let's Discuss Vulcan!

[bajanbrute 0]

Rail, shaft - 1 hit wasp, anything on DD drug 1 hit wasp...

 

It was 1 side battle.

 

Vulcan and wasp is not good option, go to normal battles and u will see :o

 

The time u need to start shooting is enough to kill you by long distance turrets  ( 1-2 hits ) 

If u shooting too long u lose ur health... wasp got the least amount of hp points...

Yes wasp is weak and we all have establigh that, doesn't matter the turret but it is too each his own.

 

The battle wasn't onesided, players started to leave and new players come in Actually the red team was upfront.

 

What is a normal battle? This isn't the only battle I have done good in and they are others I have done terrible.

 

I never shoot long enough to loose life, you don't get it. I keep moving and shooting. Maybe it just isn't working for you. I have see a player use titan and rail and was on top on leader board and this is in the top ranks. So just because it's uncommon doesn;t mean it can't work.

[nesti89 29]

Yes wasp is weak and we all have establigh that, doesn't matter the turret but it is too each his own.

 

The battle wasn't onesided, players started to leave and new players come in Actually the red team was upfront.

 

What is a normal battle? This isn't the only battle I have done good in and they are others I have done terrible.

 

I never shoot long enough to loose life, you don't get it. I keep moving and shooting. Maybe it just isn't working for you. I have see a player use titan and rail and was on top on leader board and this is in the top ranks. So just because it's uncommon doesn;t mean it can't work.

 

One time i was on the top using wasp m0 with my hammer m3+  on 90% generalismos battle.... it doesnt matter.

 

This is highland - medium map. There is no place to hide in "normal battle" ( when both sides visit opponents base )

 

Vulcan with wasp is to weak in damage on game mode called shoot and hide. It's effective when u can keep shooting long.

I guarantee, you would have way more kills in this battle with rail/thunder.

 

If u never shoot long enough to loose life, it means u have never met titan/mammoth in battle. 

 

In battles with m2 ranks u will change your decision and if u stay with vulcan u will use at least hunter (in case u like to move)

[bajanbrute 0]

Gotcha, thanks.

[Pigeons_my_way 7]

Ho2

[Pigeons_my_way 7]

Oh thank god you were just trolling.......

What the heck does trolling mean?(^_-)

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Thanks Tanki for introducing this wonderful turret!

 

Just had a Polygon DM where at a given time three, yes three! great M3 Mammoth-Vulcans were present.

A sign that the numbers of Vulcan seem to be growing, and we still need much more of them on the battlefield!

 

Ofcourse after their appearance magnificent gameplay followed!

So much skill is displayed by these players you don 't even feel the will to fight back.

The word Pro is not even enough to describe the way they move their Mammoth and aim their

Vulcan in almost impossible angles.

Maybe TO should change the name to "Skillcan"?

 

Being killed time after time by those pretty glowing hails of fire is almost like receiving a gift!

And is only complemented by that great feeling you get when your hull is almost floating by the impacts.

 

Yes, gameplay definitely improved by the Vulcan. Sadly it 's only made to be handled by extremely

skilled players: so I can only look at them in awe!

 

To bad this weapon is still very weak and is in need of a very huge buf.

Luckily the Vulcan Pro players are more than capable to "camouflage" it 's weakness!

 

But it does need a buf and I 'm quite certain Tanki will look after this the next balance.

 

Tanki, wow just wow!

 

 

irony mode off

 

[i_want_pie 3]

I love vulcan =D I think i goes quite well with dictator.

Edited September 20, 2015 by i_want_pie

[Dliver 436]

 

Thanks Tanki for introducing this wonderful turret!

 

Just had a Polygon DM where at a given time three, yes three! great M3 Mammoth-Vulcans were present.

A sign that the numbers of Vulcan seem to be growing, and we still need much more of them on the battlefield!

 

Ofcourse after their appearance magnificent gameplay followed!

So much skill is displayed by these players you don 't even feel the will to fight back.

The word Pro is not even enough to describe the way they move their Mammoth and aim their

Vulcan in almost impossible angles.

Maybe TO should change the name to "Skillcan"?

 

 

 

As a Vulcan Driver (m2 Vulcan & m2 Hunter) I can totally understand how you feel. The guys who just sit around in their mammoths camping out eating their bon bons truly have no skills. But can't the same be said about the guys who do the same thing with Shafts? As for me, that's why I love em. They just sit there, all nice, fat and happy. Thus making them easier targets for me. Like I've said before, you have got to adjust to changing circumstances. Change weapons, hulls, and paints to what you need to win a match.

 

As for me, I love fights against other Vulcans. I've yet to come across one that's been able to stand up to me Vulcan vs Vulcan. Especially the guys in Mammoths. They're just slow moving or stationary targets to me. A word of advice..... Those guys just like to just blaze away. Wait till they're red hot then pop em from cover. My suggestion is to use Rail or Shaft, since you don't like Vulcan. My preference would be rail in your situation, which is easier to pop in and out of cover quickly. It takes patience, but since they're probably just sitting out in the open blazing away, you should be able to easily eat their lunch. Don't worry, that tactic has little success with me. I fight smarter.

 

By the way Lord-of-the-Snipers, great sarcasm in your post. LOL

 

Live Long and Prosper

Edited September 22, 2015 by Dliver

[r_BLASTOY0 32]

Seriously its the most OP turret!!! .As a avid TO player,i have played with all M3 turrets and M4 turrets.My M3 vulcan beats them all in every game mode.I am like king . :lol: I am the hunter and everyone else is my prey B).BTW my Zeus and Titan are M4 so every freeze,fire and smoky keep running away from me .No self damage because of Zeus.I have stopped using Thunder M4 because of Vulcan M3 :P 

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

As a Vulcan Driver (m2 Vulcan & m2 Hunter) I can totally understand how you feel. The guys who just sit around in their mammoths camping out eating their bon bons truly have no skills. But can't the same be said about the guys who do the same thing with Shafts? As for me, that's why I love em. They just sit there, all nice, fat and happy. Thus making them easier targets for me. Like I've said before, you have got to adjust to changing circumstances. Change weapons, hulls, and paints to what you need to win a match.

 

As for me, I love fights against other Vulcans. I've yet to come across one that's been able to stand up to me Vulcan vs Vulcan. Especially the guys in Mammoths. They're just slow moving or stationary targets to me. A word of advice..... Those guys just like to just blaze away. Wait till they're red hot then pop em from cover. My suggestion is to use Rail or Shaft, since you don't like Vulcan. My preference would be rail in your situation, which is easier to pop in and out of cover quickly. It takes patience, but since they're probably just sitting out in the open blazing away, you should be able to easily eat their lunch. Don't worry, that tactic has little success with me. I fight smarter.

 

By the way Lord-of-the-Snipers, great sarcasm in your post. LOL

 

Live Long and Prosper

 

As for your point about Shaft being similar to Vulcan:

when TO introduced the lasersight on Shaft it made camping more difficult.

Some will say it 's useless, but that 's not true.

It became harder to stay hidden, but there are still ways to do it.

Shaft players with skills who adapted are still a menace on the battlefield.

 

With Vulcan M3/4, combined with a Mammoth or Titan M3/M4 and

9 out of 10 wearing Zeus on the other hand all it takes is to spin up and fire.

When these OP giants enter a battle it 's close to game over. They rule.

Doesn 't really matter if it 's a regular drugbattle of supplyless Pro Battle.

 

You have to get really close to a heavy Vulcan to make any chance at all.

And if they have a place with backshelter really every opponent will

have a hard time to get in reach.

In battle where everyone fights in the open they can still count

on their armour and the fact they will take many with them when they

finally fall.

 

The turret is OP, no doubt. It can fire at incredible angles, the impact force

makes driving away very difficult and timetaking: dealing heavy damage

in the proces: light hulls don 't stand a chance.

When you barely alive found cover: cross your fingers it 's huge enough

because the stream will cut through corners.

 

You can indeed take other weapons and deal more damage than I do

with my Smoky, the fact stays that these heavy guys never go down easy.

Depending on the kind of battlemode I see Tankers for this reason not even

shooting at them, making it even worse.

With DP I can do some damage, without DP my Smoky is a peashooter against

such a Zeus giant.

 

My wish is that TO finds a way to make it a smarter weapon.

Keep the high damage and other advantages, but stop making it possible

that this stream of death can be fired for such a prolonged time.

The heating-up effect is a nice idea, but is doing close to nothing

to a heavy Zeus Vulcan.

Reduce spin-up times or even delete them totally and introduce instead

a limited firing time. So Vulcan can only shoot in shorter bursts.

Something like that.

 

Thanks for your compliment and advice by the way! :)

(and if I were to fight with Vulcan (never) I would choose Hunter/Viking too)

I just can 't follow the advice: I prefer Smoky too much.

Though I will be having a Rico M3 in the future.

Just the idea of rendering Zeus useless... :P

 

Live Long and Prosper too

Edited September 22, 2015 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Seriously its the most OP turret!!! .As a avid TO player,i have played with all M3 turrets and M4 turrets.My M3 vulcan beats them all in every game mode.I am like king . :lol: I am the hunter and everyone else is my prey B).BTW my Zeus and Titan are M4 so every freeze,fire and smoky keep running away from me .No self damage because of Zeus.I have stopped using Thunder M4 because of Vulcan M3 :P

 

 

 

 

thanks for proving my point! :)

 

We already met in battle. In one occasion I left because you and someone with a similar combo like

you (could have been a Mammoth instead of a Titan) entered the Polygon CP.

The battle was in it 's early stages and our team was winning at that point.

Than you two guys entered and it was game-over.

Gave it a try, but I was useless with my Smoky.

 

Here 's another battle with you on top. Also using your Titan/Vulcan Zeus combo.

Proof that it even is overpowered in supplyless Pro battles.

(you are smart to use the Titan because you can relatively quickly move and spread your fire)

 

I was using Hornet or Hunter? with Smoky and Prodigi.

Edited September 22, 2015 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[r_BLASTOY0 32]

hehe thanks mate :lol: .Yeah i remembered.I guess you were using Hunter and Emerald/Prodigi.Almost every battle i play i win.I know Vulcan is so OP.Even with lag as you can see i annihilated almost everyone(you can see my post,i am playing on low graphics and ping is bad too).But i enjoy playing with it .I am playing Tanki now because of this turret only .I know it will be a right call to balance it in next rebalance of TO,till then i will wreck hell on BattleFields :D  .

Here are some more proof:

Mode:CP(other team ran after abusing me :P )

Edited September 22, 2015 by r_BLASTOY0

[r_BLASTOY0 32]

Mode CTF

[r_BLASTOY0 32]

Mode:DM again :rolleyes:

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

hehe thanks mate :lol: .Yeah i remembered.I guess you were using Hunter and Emerald/Prodigi.Almost every battle i play i win.I know Vulcan is so OP.Even with lag as you can see i annihilated almost everyone(you can see my post,i am playing on low graphics and ping is bad too).But i enjoy playing with it .I am playing Tanki now because of this turret only .I know it will be a right call to balance it in next rebalance of TO,till then i will wreck hell on BattleFields :D  .

Here are some more proof:

Mode:CP(other team ran after abusing me :P )

 

 

 

(yes, your right I think I was playing Hunter)

Well TO sooner or later always has a balance and this turret

will certainly be nerfed. (if they sold enough yet though)

Glad to read that you are not one of those players who denies their turret is OP,

probably to try (in vain) to avoid a nerf.  :) 

quote: "I know it will be a right call to balance it in next rebalance of TO"

Just try to make peace with all your fellow combo players: maybe they 'll forgive you

this entence one day... ;)

Till than the only thing I can do is avoid you Zeusy Vulcans as much as possible.

Which is not that easy because you multiply like rabbits it seems! :P

 

Burn up quickly Wreck hell as long as it lasts! (short I hope)  :) 

[r_BLASTOY0 32]

Hehehe buying rico will not save you from Vulcans and Zeus :D .Believe me we Vulcaners use Zeus to protec our tank from ourselves :P (protection from self burn,if isida is backing us we have got infinite fire power.Its like twins with long range)..At M4 HP Titan/Mamoth onlything that hurts bad is shaft on DP :lol:

Edited September 22, 2015 by r_BLASTOY0

[Dliver 436]

 

 

(and if I were to fight with Vulcan (never) I would choose Hunter/Viking too)

I just can 't follow the advice: I prefer Smoky too much.

Though I will be having a Rico M3 in the future.

Just the idea of rendering Zeus useless... :P

 

 

You might also want to look into a paint to protect from Vulcan too.

 

Such as maxing out Blacksmith, Rhino, Hive, Raccon or Africa. Another option of course is Graffiti which is already maxed out for Vulcan. Your choice, of course, depends on what compromises your willing to make or what types of other turrets you consistantly run into.

 

The other day I ran into a Ricco with Graffiti and he flat tore me up, Had to switch to my Rail to have a chace against him. Then it was more even.

 

Keep the faith Lord-of-the-Snipers and be flexable.

 

As for me I look forward to when I rank up a bit more and face Blastoy to prove my points. I like taking out campers. :ph34r:

Edited September 22, 2015 by Dliver

[r_BLASTOY0 32]

You might also want to look into a paint to protect from Vulcan too.

 

Such as maxing out Blacksmith, Rhino, Hive, Raccon or Africa. Another option of course is Graffiti which is already maxed out for Vulcan. Your choice, of course, depends on what compromises your willing to make or what types of other turrets you consistantly run into.

 

The other day I ran into a Ricco with Graffiti and he flat tore me up, Had to switch to my Rail to have a chace against him. Then it was more even.

 

Keep the faith Lord-of-the-Snipers and be flexable.

 

As for me I look forward to when I rank up a bit more and face Blastoy to prove my points. I like taking out campers. :ph34r:

Haahaha good luck to you :) ,I will be waiting with M4 Vulcan and Shaft may be :P

Edited September 22, 2015 by r_BLASTOY0

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

You might also want to look into a paint to protect from Vulcan too.

 

Such as maxing out Blacksmith, Rhino, Hive, Raccon or Africa. Another option of course is Graffiti which is already maxed out for Vulcan. Your choice, of course, depends on what compromises your willing to make or what types of other turrets you consistantly run into.

True, but I haven 't got the crystals for such a purchase and also a paint is indeed always a compromise.

Nah, I place my bets on a nerf... ;)

 

The other day I ran into a Ricco with Graffiti and he flat tore me up, Had to switch to my Rail to have a chace against him. Then it was more even. Ok

 

Keep the faith Lord-of-the-Snipers and be flexable. No worries! :)

 

As for me I look forward to when I rank up a bit more and face Blastoy to prove my points. I like taking out campers. :ph34r:

I would fully support you, but he 's not as rigid as most Vulcan-campers...he does use that Titan well.

(but if you take him out I will surely send you cookies! :P)

[Dliver 436]

Haahaha good luck to you :) ,I will be waiting with M4 Vulcan and Shaft may be :P

Live Long and Prosper........Well at least until we meet. LOL

[Mr.LaS3r 3]

so i bought vulcan and test it out everthing went well untill i realized that the vulcan has big problem that is doesnt have a standby mode.

i will explain

 

fire i dont how to exactly name it buy i will call it standby mode

 

so when i shoot the minigun spin but when i shoot again it stop and it start to spinning again and its big waste of time waiting to spin that u can do is it start from last point is spinned to explain more the minigun  in other games and all similar to make it more playable and easy . which is when u click or hold a chosen button (a button ) it start spinning until it become on point to start shooting but no it doesnt shoot only when u click the shoot button so it doesnt waste ur time waiting for minigun to spin over and over and over  

 

so what i telling u is button that spins the minigun 1-2seconds same time but when u click shoot button it insta shoot if ur mingun is spinning to max. 

hope u understand my creepy language 

 

lastly why do we need this? 

so instead of waiting everytime to spin when u facing a enemy u can spin it early when waiting for enemys and when u see them boom instashooting and u think this makes vulcan op but in standby mode ur hull speed become slow and ur turret become slow at u are shooting 

 

so so sry for my bad english i am trying my best 

 

please devs try to understand my idea and reply 

 

Peace

 

Edit : all of you thinks vulcan op and i aggre with you but i am asking to make the rotate continue when it has stopped not restarting and waiting until it stop it feels so bad and its nearly like a bug. to make it more clarify when i shoot and stop and shoot same time it still waiting until the wheels stops to start rotating again so its kinda waste of alot of time

 

for all those who say vulcan op and needs nerf . this  is not a buff i see this as a bug and must fix in near future

with double demage and MU 1 shot can take an m2 hornet with bit MU

Edited September 25, 2015 by Mr.LaS3r

[Maf 32,300]

Title changed

 

The reason Vulcan shoots like this is so that it has a disadvantage to counteract it's power and ability to shoot forever (with an Isida healing you). Your idea does make sense, but if it were to be added, Vulcan would become very powerful and easy to use, so it would have to be nerfed in a different way, such as reducing the damage.

[dilsharox 2,395]

what your trying to say is that when we stop pressing space bar the turret should still rotate?

[Mr.LaS3r 3]

what your trying to say is that when we stop pressing space bar the turret should still rotate?

nono i am saying when u hold key like right click for mouse or other button if ur using keyboard 

Edited September 24, 2015 by Mr.LaS3r

[Mr.LaS3r 3]

Title changed

 

The reason Vulcan shoots like this is so that it has a disadvantage to counteract it's power and ability to shoot forever (with an Isida healing you). Your idea does make sense, but if it were to be added, Vulcan would become very powerful and easy to use, so it would have to be nerfed in a different way, such as reducing the damage.

i cant understand how it would be so powerfull and easy to use 

i said if u holding the rotate only key u become so slow and  ur turrey become slow too

Edited September 24, 2015 by Mr.LaS3r