Let's Discuss Vulcan!

[USA-POWER 227]

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Edited March 9, 2015 by USA-POWER

[Strawwitz 86]

I use only Vulcan and Rico, neither are OP. 

[2shots2kills 2,364]

This gun will undergo rebalance later as its too much OP

Now, they are just seducing people to buy it

clearly this gun is the most powerful one, and it created a kind of a total imbalance to the battles .. tried most of the commonly used maps, it dominates in polygon CP, in island, in silence, where else ! and it doesnt heat up much after it finishes its load, specially when people are using anti fire paint

 

Clearly this gun has brought a total mess and chaos to the game play , the game play i did with that video above i did it with vulcan m0 !

I rarely post in the forum, but I totally agree with this.

M3 Vulcan paired with a heavy M3 hull (either Titan or Mammoth) and an anti fire paint like Zeus is OP. I have seen a LOT of battles where a single M3 Vulcan on drugs destroyed the opposite team.

I don't like when guns gets rebalanced, but I think Vulcan needs some changes.

I don't know, maybe some more self damage, as now a protective paint almost completely denies it, or lower damage, worse accurancy... Something needs to be done with this gun, at least at M3.

Edited March 10, 2015 by 2shots2kills

[hellboy1234567 546]

^ true all of the above posts...and who thinks it sucks at close range and u can just circle around it with hornet and wasp, cant be more wrong, i've noticed the auto aim for vulcan is even greater than rico, isida...so u circle or not circle, most of the bullets will hit u and being a light hull, it takes half a second to die,..

Edited March 10, 2015 by hellboy1234567

[Landkreuzer1500 9]

This gun will undergo rebalance later as its too much OP

Now, they are just seducing people to buy it

clearly this gun is the most powerful one, and it created a kind of a total imbalance to the battles .. tried most of the commonly used maps, it dominates in polygon CP, in island, in silence, where else ! and it doesnt heat up much after it finishes its load, specially when people are using anti fire paint

 

Clearly this gun has brought a total mess and chaos to the game play , the game play i did with that video above i did it with vulcan m0 ! 

Trying to go against it in pro battles without supplies is near to impossible. I can't even get close to it least attempting to circle it.

Whats worst it dominates even the small maps, today i was almost unable to get near the flag in Farm and a few days ago 2 Vulcans completely blasted away my entire team in Hill map which at first i thought was impossible but i was persuaded very soon when they started camping each on one corner of the map crossing their lines of fire like in WW1 tactics.

When you combine it with a heavy hull and a paint with a good fire protection like 2shots2kills mentioned before and not to mention a good teammate wit Isida or another turret to cover his blind spots it totally unbalances the game.

As a Hammer user I'm aware of how irritating this turret was before the paints got out, but now it blended pretty well with the other turrets in the game unlike Vulcan that although the protective paints were released at the same time as the turret its still having an overpowering impact on every battle it appears on (i saw an M4 Dictator with Africa paint melted in a matter of seconds).

[I.H.U.R.R.I.C.A.N.E 120]

Every one with skill knows that to beat vulcan you have to pop around a corner and shoot  then take cover before it can get its barrels turning. if you get this tactic down pat it is easy to kill vulcans. and you will know if you are doing good if people (meaning the person with vulcan) calls you a camper :P

NOTICE, if you run out in the open with a short to medium range gun the vulcan will ANNIHILATE YOU.

Edited March 11, 2015 by I.H.U.R.R.I.C.A.N.E

[hellboy1234567 546]

^trust me doesn't work...your tactics is only possible with thunder/rail it seems, how about short range turrets?

[samlauncher 106]

isnt anything on a mammoth with a good paint OP??

[r_ruler-tanki0 2]

Its the worst gun in tanki but still if its strat shooting its very tough to escape fro mit

[kayitsiz 621]

isnt anything on a mammoth with a good paint OP??

Vulcan, twins, thunder

[Landkreuzer1500 9]

Every one with skill knows that to beat vulcan you have to pop around a corner and shoot  then take cover before it can get its barrels turning. if you get this tactic down pat it is easy to kill vulcans. and you will know if you are doing good if people (meaning the person with vulcan) calls you a camper :P

NOTICE, if you run out in the open with a short to medium range gun the vulcan will ANNIHILATE YOU.

 

Every one with skill knows that to beat vulcan you have to pop around a corner and shoot  then take cover before it can get its barrels turning. if you get this tactic down pat it is easy to kill vulcans. and you will know if you are doing good if people (meaning the person with vulcan) calls you a camper :P

NOTICE, if you run out in the open with a short to medium range gun the vulcan will ANNIHILATE YOU.

You are aware we weren't talking about 1 vs 1 battles but about team battles were one needs to worry also about the other tanks and whichever combo they are using! And as every player with skills knows the successful team is the one that constantly pushes forward putting pressure on the enemy and keeping control over the center or middle ground as you want to call it, and that's the case when Vulcan appears in the story. With his constant and long rang fire he's able to pin down the enemies while his teammates get in range to use their turrets (hammer, fire, etc.) or clearing the path for them to get the flag.

For a dueling weapon i clearly wouldn't pick Vulcan because i was already aware of its vulnerabilities having played against it in the test server where i was able to defeat it without a sweat using Wasp/Smoky but that was a 1 vs 1 battle and paints weren't available.

What's worst at the time Vulcan was released i was constantly using Hammer, being at first unaware of the bug which prevented Vulcan to hit its turret, i thought Vulcan wasn't that big of a threat so with the crystals available i bought Nano paint, oh boy was i wrong! :))

[USA-POWER 227]

Every one with skill knows that to beat vulcan you have to pop around a corner and shoot  then take cover before it can get its barrels turning. if you get this tactic down pat it is easy to kill vulcans. and you will know if you are doing good if people (meaning the person with vulcan) calls you a camper :P

NOTICE, if you run out in the open with a short to medium range gun the vulcan will ANNIHILATE YOU.

This video shows a vulcan that never stopped shooting fire for 6 mins .. yes its true it was using drugs, but its an M0 that is easily destroying and autoaiming at the rest of tanks killing them all, even thou they were having m1 guns !

 

 

 

 

[Battle-Spire 46]

With his constant and long rang fire he's able to pin down the enemies while his teammates get in range to use their turrets (hammer, fire, etc.) or clearing the path for them to get the flag.

Shouldn't snipers be dealing with the Vulcans and other problematic targets? :huh:

If the Vulcan is really shooting non-stop, that means it's over-heating, which in turn means a Shaft (and even Rails) can take it out in 1-shot.

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

Shouldn't snipers be dealing with the Vulcans and other problematic targets? :huh:

If the Vulcan is really shooting non-stop, that means it's over-heating, which in turn means a Shaft (and even Rails) can take it out in 1-shot.

Most of the Vulcans I see (including me) take breaks while firing to cool off and analyze the situation. These coffee breaks only last for a second or two, though- after the cooling's done, we go right back to shooting. As such, overheating usually isn't a big issue, and Railguns generally won't be able to take down Vulcans in one shot.

 

Situational awareness does tend to be a problem while using it. When you're in an exposed position, trying to lay waste to the enemy team, you do tend to get complacent. Once in a while, you get sniped by a Shaft or blown up by a Freeze because you weren't checking your surroundings.

 

 

Its the worst gun in tanki but still if its strat shooting its very tough to escape fro mit

It's far from the worst gun- my slightly micro-upgraded M2 Vulcan can fight and win against early M3s.

[Landkreuzer1500 9]

This video shows a vulcan that never stopped shooting fire for 6 mins .. yes its true it was using drugs, but its an M0 that is easily destroying and autoaiming at the rest of tanks killing them all, even thou they were having m1 guns !

 

 

 

 

Now pair that Vulcan to an Isida or Freeze or put let's say a Smoky to cover him and you can imagine the magnitude of devastation it can lay over his opponents, not to mention if it were fully Mued with a good fire protective paint.

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

M0-M2 Vulcan has never been a threat to me. . . .Easy to kill, easy points.

But at M3, with paints like Zeus and M3 Mammoth, that thing is SCARY.

 

And we all know how much drugs are used in high ranked battles. . .

Edited March 12, 2015 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[Strawwitz 86]

This video shows a vulcan that never stopped shooting fire for 6 mins .. yes its true it was using drugs, but its an M0 that is easily destroying and autoaiming at the rest of tanks killing them all, even thou they were having m1 guns !

 

 

 

 

I seeing a guy burning through through DD and DAdrugs and first aid kits , fighting a team thats looks rather out -matched and them often ignoring this danger.. About the only thing that seems weird to me is the VERY SLOW of over-heating. Perhaps that is a M0 quirk, (although I am not certain how the various heat factors work or the MU upgrades) Because you certainly can't fire that long with an M1( even with storm paint) without burning through 2x-3x first aid kits he used, that would not even be feasible given the recharge rate for drugs, you would blow up. 

 

I often use this very combo except M1 Vulcan and M1 Titan with storm :) , although I more often use dirty as I fight on bigger maps. Polygon is a mindless blood-bath if you ask me, much like that video confirms. 

Edited March 12, 2015 by Strawwitz

[USA-POWER 227]

I seeing a guy burning through through DD and DAdrugs and first aid kits , fighting a team thats looks rather outnumbered and often ignoring this danger.. About the only thing that seems weird to me is the VERY SLOW of over-heating. Perhaps that is a M0 quirk, Because you certainly can't fire that long with an M1 without burning through 2x-3x first aid kits he used, that would not even be feasible given the recharge rate for drugs. 

that was the point behind the video, it wasn't about skills of course, the drugs were used to keep the gun shooting in order to observe that it doesn't over heat that much ! 

[USA-POWER 227]

Now pair that Vulcan to an Isida or Freeze or put let's say a Smoky to cover him and you can imagine the magnitude of devastation it can lay over his opponents, not to mention if it were fully Mued with a good fire protective paint.

and imagine a vulcan shooting while eating an ice-cream !!!!

[Strawwitz 86]

that was the point behind the video, it wasn't about skills of course, the drugs were used to keep the gun shooting in order to observe that it doesn't over heat that much ! 

Well sure, but if you continually pop drugs + healths with many tank combos , you can pretty much keep killing and not dying, and build some impressive D/L ratios

Edited March 12, 2015 by Strawwitz

[Strawwitz 86]

Now pair that Vulcan to an Isida or Freeze or put let's say a Smoky to cover him and you can imagine the magnitude of devastation it can lay over his opponents, not to mention if it were fully Mued with a good fire protective paint.

 If you can get 3-4 players together, cooperating, you ought to be able to devastate most opponents and un-coordinated teams. Vulcan or not. 

Edited March 12, 2015 by Strawwitz

[Strawwitz 86]

and imagine a vulcan shooting while eating an ice-cream !!!!

The freeze is used to keep the ice cream cool, the Isida is used to keep the Vulcan from blowing up. :D

[Landkreuzer1500 9]

 If you can get 3-4 players together, cooperating, you ought to be able to devastate most opponents and un-coordinated teams. Vulcan or not. 

I always talk about battles fought between skilled players with top notch equipment because i find no joy in defeating noobs as you like to call them (there are plenty among the high ranks too) or players that didn't had the possibility or luck to get a good combo. I'm aware that the Vulcan in the video could have been taken out without problem by a Rail, Shaft (not encountering many these days since the laser addition) or any other long ranged turret if given the chance, however that Vulcan was getting the most damage from overheating, if he took a small pause to prevent that he would also turned the turret better to inflict more damage to his enemies. As i mentioned before at m4 the barrel really doesn't need much to start firing so a smart user would be able to fire almost indefinitely from a good defiled cover like that walls with a crack in the middle.

[Strawwitz 86]

I always talk about battles fought between skilled players with top notch equipment because i find no joy in defeating noobs as you like to call them (there are plenty among the high ranks too) or players that didn't had the possibility or luck to get a good combo. I'm aware that the Vulcan in the video could have been taken out without problem by a Rail, Shaft (not encountering many these days since the laser addition) or any other long ranged turret if given the chance, however that Vulcan was getting the most damage from overheating, if he took a small pause to prevent that he would also turned the turret better to inflict more damage to his enemies. As i mentioned before at m4 the barrel really doesn't need much to start firing so a smart user would be able to fire almost indefinitely from a good defiled cover like that walls with a crack in the middle.

I didn't call anyone a noob as far as that battle goes. But the fact of the matter , If you see a player such as that on the other side , who keeps continually blasting you and everybody else , that is a threat that needs to be dealt with first. I am sure you know that, I only state this for others.

 

However, Now that you bring it up , I will call all of those players opposing that Vulcan, "NOOBS", as they did not the address the most threatening opponent in the match.

 

I run into this often. You start blasting with a Vulcan, normally the other side will adjust and start fighting you as best they can, sometimes it works , sometimes it doesn't. But stilll they react, In this example of a match , there is none of that. 

 

Really good job by the Vulcan player, he did well, and it was not only because of the weapon he was using, but he how played it well and the other side did not.

 

Regards,

Strachwitz

Edited March 12, 2015 by Strawwitz

[dolahbk 27]

M2 hurts..m3 ...ni comment..ill get cherry as soon as i reach the rank in my alt