Shaft

[robbie56 2,403]

I agree with the last point , the laser should be visible at all times.

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

Even though I agree with you, I don't agree with the way you typed it, you are coming across as insulting to some people.

 

Also, swearing is forbidden, read the Tanki Forum Rules.

Well, in all fairness, I did offset the first one and the second one was MY asterisks, I censured myself on that.  Sorry if that came across as a little hostile, but it's getting EXCESSIVELY tiresome to see these conversations and the same old complaints, and it's OBVIOUS that the developers DO watch these and make decisions off of them, or the shaft would have NEVER been lasered up, we both know this.  It is a completely unrealistic addition to a combat based environment and it was to appease little gamers that want to be able to run in, snag a flag, and run away.  Folks seem to have this pack mentality that the way to play this game is "good" players run together to the flag, shoot everything in sight, then run away with the flag.  They have this expectation that if they do that, they have done the "right" thing and by golly they are being denied their right full flag capture because some guy with patience and really big gun took advantage of the fact that they let themselves get stupidly beat up on the run and with half a bar of load are sniped and the flag lost.  I call that "OH WELL".  Maybe if they worked MUCH HARDER for the flag then they could run off with it and never have to worry about ALWAYS being picked off by the REALLY GOOD SNIPER on the exit run, or maybe stop relying on the Isidia running behind them on the run in that I just blew away FIRST to stop the asinine frontal assault.

 

They complain about a fair fight, they have more than one now against shafts, I am sick of hearing the same old sophomoric whining of a bunch of no skill, no brains, no wanting to expend any effort what so ever gamers.  It's infuriating to me and not something to be taken lightly because as I said, if you let enough of these morons complain, apparently they get listened to, so Shafts have to pipe up and remind them of who they are and the fact that they are not the universe around which all things tanki revolve.

 

I'd say I take back what I said earlier, but considering I muted myself, yet again here, is good enough.  Players who complain about shafts should be sent packing to go kick rocks somewhere.

[Holyman_Tanki 40]

Replace the laser sight with the Theme Tune; have that audible whenever a Shaft user has you in their sights.

 

Wakka-wakka-wakka-dum-dum... [bit of jazz-flute...]

 

That's a good compromise isn't it?

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

I agree with the last point , the laser should be visible at all times.

See, this is the ignorance I'm speaking of deadtoyou.  What kind of moronic _{[[rephrased for correctness, in order to not "offend"]]} thinking _{[[rephrased for correctness, in order to not "offend"/]]} (for lack of a better word, because thinking seems to imply one could NEVER arrive at such a conclusion) is this?  I mean really, not only announce your location when you are using the equipment as you should, but hell, let's just put a light over their heads too?  Now, like I said before, I'd be ambivalent and completely without care if I knew the developers were deaf to this kind of stupidity, but they are not.  The masses complain enough, even if they are wrong, boom, we get things like laser beams on tanks.  It's deplorable.

[Rohrmeister 1,536]

I think the shaft was good as it was. Shafters have to think very tactical, as they have to move around. I (as freeze and railgunner) like to hunt down shafts very much. Why? BEcause it is a tactical challenge and many of those shafters are clever guys, that do one or 2 shots, then change position, hide, come out somewhere else.. hunting them is really nice, and is a matter of "thinking" to get close to them to kill them.

(ok.. some just get a mammuth, drug up and place themselfes visible.. I am _not_ talking about those)

 

But when I made it across the whole map, using each and every hide andrushing the open fields fast when they are distracted.. then I am close to them.. and then they turn their turret faster then my attack gun and shot me in arcade mode.

On this and exactly and only this point I think they are now overpowered.

 

It is like a freeze is powerfull in close combat, but lost on open field.

In the same way a shaft rules open field and has disadvantages in close combat.

This would sound balanced to me.

 

(and a hint for some quick-fix-guys: Reducing their arcade demage won't be a help, it is really the turret speed in arcade (!) mode. Reducing their arcade demage renders them helpless, as the 1-sniper-shot-1-arcade-shot manover wont work any more. This seems vital to them)

[deadmanrising 715]

The devs gave shaft more impact force but i will not use it, as long as that laser is there im going to pretend i never bought and micro upgraded it, i won't even count it as one of my m2's, its almost as useless as m0's, the only good thing about it is its damage and that's about it

[deadtoyou 2,502]

 

 

Well, in all fairness, I did offset the first one and the second one was MY asterisks, I censured myself on that.  Sorry if that came across as a little hostile, but it's getting EXCESSIVELY tiresome to see these conversations and the same old complaints, and it's OBVIOUS that the developers DO watch these and make decisions off of them, or the shaft would have NEVER been lasered up, we both know this.  It is a completely unrealistic addition to a combat based environment and it was to appease little gamers that want to be able to run in, snag a flag, and run away.  Folks seem to have this pack mentality that the way to play this game is "good" players run together to the flag, shoot everything in sight, then run away with the flag.  They have this expectation that if they do that, they have done the "right" thing and by golly they are being denied their right full flag capture because some guy with patience and really big gun took advantage of the fact that they let themselves get stupidly beat up on the run and with half a bar of load are sniped and the flag lost.  I call that "OH WELL".  Maybe if they worked MUCH HARDER for the flag then they could run off with it and never have to worry about ALWAYS being picked off by the REALLY GOOD SNIPER on the exit run, or maybe stop relying on the Isidia running behind them on the run in that I just blew away FIRST to stop the asinine frontal assault.

 

They complain about a fair fight, they have more than one now against shafts, I am sick of hearing the same old sophomoric whining of a bunch of no skill, no brains, no wanting to expend any effort what so ever gamers.  It's infuriating to me and not something to be taken lightly because as I said, if you let enough of these morons complain, apparently they get listened to, so Shafts have to pipe up and remind them of who they are and the fact that they are not the universe around which all things tanki revolve.

 

I'd say I take back what I said earlier, but considering I muted myself, yet again here, is good enough.  Players who complain about shafts should be sent packing to go kick rocks somewhere.

 

 

I know, I have seen so many complaining topics that I have begun to post this:

 

Attention, topic creator, There is no way, repeat, NO WAY to make EVERY player COMPLETELY happy.....every game ever created has flaws, and every game has players who don't like or hate certain features of the game. As far as I know, there are no exceptions to that fact.

So, try and find a way to deal with your problem, because not many players share your view, other players find the laser update useful, I certainly do.

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

The devs gave shaft more impact force but i will not use it, as long as that laser is there im going to pretend i never bought and micro upgraded it, i won't even count it as one of my m2's, its almost as useless as m0's, the only good thing about it is its damage and that's about it

its not useless that much, I dont see much difference in it :)

[Athena369 265]

its not useless that much, I dont see much difference in it :)

my friend dark.shado knows a lot about shaft. So I guess you guys agree with him. But for me all those who worship shaft ( use nothing else but the noobtube) are big noobs. :)

[deadtoyou 2,502]

my friend dark.shado knows a lot about shaft. So I guess you guys agree with him. But for me all those who worship shaft ( use nothing else but the noobtube) are big noobs. :)

On the contrary, Shaft requires lots of skill, especially since the laser scope update. :)

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

 

 

 

 

I know, I have seen so many complaining topics that I have begun to post this:

 

Attention, topic creator, There is no way, repeat, NO WAY to make EVERY player COMPLETELY happy.....every game ever created has flaws, and every game has players who don't like or hate certain features of the game. As far as I know, there are no exceptions to that fact.

So, try and find a way to deal with your problem, because not many players share your view, other players find the laser update useful, I certainly do.

Well, as long as you are not complaining about the shaft, then by all means, disclaim all you wish, but I see the laser as being promoted in this little text block, hence I see the tell tail signs of "OP" believer that thinks the laser is great.  I could careless what you think of it, as long as you can't influence by mob mentality the game structure and dynamics.

[deadtoyou 2,502]

Well, as long as you are not complaining about the shaft, then by all means, disclaim all you wish, but I see the laser as being promoted in this little text block, hence I see the tell tail signs of "OP" believer that thinks the laser is great.  I could careless what you think of it, as long as you can't influence by mob mentality the game structure and dynamics.

I do like the laser, both as a Shaft user and one who fights against Shafts. I am able to avoid them and plan strategically how to advance, and I am forced to hide the laser so the enemy doesn't see it. (That might seem bad, but the level of tactics added to the game as a result is what I am pointing out. :))

[Rohrmeister 1,536]

Yesterady and today I already met 3 wasps equipped with shaft,using it like a railgun (hit and run, close combat, long range).

The fast turning speed makes that possible. Was this the intention of the update?

 

Today I met one, that's laser was on - so he was in sniping mode.

But his constantly sweeped the whole battle left-right-left-right field at an _increeeeedible_ speed. So eaven everyone knew where he was, only the most skilled players got close enough to take him out. Some long range railer tried to snipe him but he saw them and took them out with full charge.

 

This guy simply ruled the game (desert).

It is still to fast spinning.

Think about it..