Category Ideas for Game Modes!

[Viking4s 10,791]

On 7/6/2020 at 9:36 PM, Kido said:

Everyone, I don't want XP BP to come to MM for only crystal earning purpose. It's only one reason out of many that I decided to make this article. It's not only wanting to do it for personal benefits, or personal wish, but I want it because TO will get the most benefit and morale rise as well. Although Xp Bp might not be the major part of game other than MM. But I've felt it consistently that XP BP has a group of hundreds of players playing in battle list(not once at a time). As a Xp Bp player, I don't want crystals back, I want the thrill of Xp Bp to become a part of MM.  Believe me or not, it will not bring harm to the game and instead make great change in it(possibly).

XP/BP being part of the MM menu or not being part of it ... what is the difference? It is part of the game, just in a different area. Players who wants to play xp/bp knows where to look and they don't even need to buy a pro pass anymore. As I said XP/BP will lose a lot if made into MM, this is not a favourable outcome. What makes you think it will benefit xp/bp and the players (if not about the battle funds)? 

 

On 7/6/2020 at 9:30 PM, Kido said:

[...] I say, let there be no crystal earning in pro battles but atleast give face to xp bp players and make it a part of MM. 

"give face! What is that? Is it about an honor thingy? Someone lost his face? Are we talking about a game or people's misplaced emotion and feelings? Is that a cultural thing? Are you Chinese or Japanese? The “lose face” and “give face” is kind of their concept for Asia, but it is alien to Russian IMO, and other cultures.

Edited July 10, 2020 by Viking4s

[E_polypterus 2,374]

On 7/7/2020 at 2:00 AM, Kido said:

I say, let there be no crystal earning in pro battles but atleast give face to xp bp players and make it a part of M

NO CRYSTAL FUNDS in PRO? are you MAD?

I can’t play MultMatching(MM) for the rest of my life with just 70 supplies each you know.

[Ujju 11]

8 hours ago, Viking4s said:

XP/BP being part of the MM menu or not being part of it ... what is the difference? It is part of the game, just in a different area. Players who wants to play xp/bp knows where to look and they don't even need to buy a pro pass anymore. As I said XP/BP will lose a lot if made into MM, this is not a favourable outcome. What makes you think it will benefit xp/bp and the players (if not about the battle funds)? 

 

"give face! What is that? Is it about an honor thingy? Someone lost his face? Are we talking about a game or people's misplaced emotion and feelings? Is that a cultural thing? Are you Chinese or Japanese? The “lose face” and “give face” is kind of their concept for Asia, but it is alien to Russian IMO, and other cultures.

Okay I get you, but as for why I made this request in the forum was to make xp bp a part of MM or rather a seperate platfrom from battle list because it doesn't give face to XP BP. 

I give face to something that is to respect it. What is this cultural thing? Based on russian IMO, game give face to money, is that business or cultural thing? Hmm it's a culture of everyone. I see people playing xp bp in pro battle list more than any other part of it. What's the problem to go against MM pattern? Isn't MM pattern made for some purpose of being different from pro battles? But pro battles has become more of xp bp than just pro battles..Then according to it, what's the purpose of Pro battles pattern? If there is no pattern then why not just give face to xp bp and let it be in MM for sake of more money and betterment of MM or tanki?

 

Edited July 11, 2020 by Kido

[Ujju 11]

2 hours ago, E_polypterus said:

NO CRYSTAL FUNDS in PRO? are you MAD?

I can’t play MultMatching(MM) for the rest of my life with just 70 supplies each you know.

What I said was let there be no crystal funds in pro since there is already no crystal fund in some adjusted setting according to some reason. When did I order it to happen? 

[Ujju 11]

9 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

How would you do this?

MM needs more players for the general population - in all modes and all maps WITH supplies and drones and OverDrives.

If you have a separate category in MM for xp/bp then it defeats the entire purpose of MM.  Two streams of players for MM does not help existing battles player-base.  There might actually be less players in total for the non-xp/bp base as some switch over.

Do not see how this can possibly work.  You'd have to explain in much greater detail.

MM is the general population of tanki. Then what about XP BP. I see that it is the bigger part of Pro battles. The part is big enough to seperate from pro battles and mix with it's new platform, if not MM? I am doubting myself now even though I started the subject, thinking that maybe XP BP is not big enough to make its face..

Edited July 11, 2020 by Kido

[E_polypterus 2,374]

43 minutes ago, Kido said:

What I said was let there be no crystal funds in pro since there is already no crystal fund in some adjusted setting according to some reason. When did I order it to happen? 

Those adjusted settings are only xpbp and clan battles. There’s no reason for pro battles to lose their funds. More players play pro than xpbp. Besides it’s not like tanki online can’t survive without xpbp.

46 minutes ago, Kido said:

Then according to it, what's the purpose of Pro battles pattern? If there is no pattern then why not just give face to xp bp

Why do you need a pattern? It’s purpose is to play battles that’s all. In these battles the main difference from mm is the team spirit and more dependence on skills(same with xpbp)

[Ujju 11]

2 hours ago, E_polypterus said:

Those adjusted settings are only xpbp and clan battles. There’s no reason for pro battles to lose their funds. More players play pro than xpbp. Besides it’s not like tanki online can’t survive without xpbp.

Why do you need a pattern? It’s purpose is to play battles that’s all. In these battles the main difference from mm is the team spirit and more dependence on skills(same with xpbp)

I only play xp bp in tanki online. Rest are of no interest to me. To have no way to earn fund in xp bp, no better control(since coming of html in place of flash) makes xp bp lose it's colour in entire pro battle list. Rest assured, taking into account of what replies I got, I understood XP BP can't be merged to MM. But please take my vision into this point of view: Most of us, XP BP players are playing tanki online in flash only, for sake of only playing xp bp. We don't want crystals, we don't want Html, we don't want MM. We only want to play xp bp but with some face. That is, we want flash to remain a part of tanki other than html, and let crystal earning be active in xp bp because most of the  battles are xp bp only(you said pro battles are more than xp bp but i disagree and you should check it as well). Html and flash has a vast difference in control feeling. And recently, I heard some people saying that flash will soon be removed from tanki. 

Edited July 11, 2020 by Kido
I written change instead of difference

[E_polypterus 2,374]

24 minutes ago, Kido said:

only play xp bp in tanki online. Rest are of no interest to me.

That’s the same thing the rest of the players who don’t play xpbp are thinking about xpbp(and regretfully for you the devs too)

24 minutes ago, Kido said:

re xp bp only(you said pro battles are more than xp bp but i disagree and you should check it as well

I almost always play only pro battles. 

 

24 minutes ago, Kido said:

We don't want crystals

You can say that after you’ve got all the things you want considering you’re  at legend. But there’s also many other players who need crystals and exp. And if you don’t want crystals then why are you saying xpbp lost its color after no funds?

24 minutes ago, Kido said:

And recently, I heard some people saying that flash will soon be removed from tanki. 

Yes I think by December 30th

But you are right anyway. Removing of battle funds for xpbp and other format battles was a very sad update which the greedy devs had done thinking more players would play mm then. However much we say, if it’s related to pro battles I highly doubt that devs will listen to our views.

Edited July 11, 2020 by E_polypterus

[Gauss-Hornet 489]

If Tanki does implement XP/BP in MM, it would have all the supplies, overdrives, modules, drones and augments added to it, too. It would be nothing like what XP/BP is right now. I doubt anyone would like that.

[wolverine848 13,097]

10 hours ago, Kido said:

MM is the general population of tanki. Then what about XP BP. I see that it is the bigger part of Pro battles. The part is big enough to seperate from pro battles and mix with it's new platform, if not MM? I am doubting myself now even though I started the subject, thinking that maybe XP BP is not big enough to make its face..

You can't have 2 separate MM streams - defeats the purpose of MM.  If Xp/BP players want crystals they need to play in MM.  If they don't care about crystals they can play pro-battles.

[Ujju 11]

49 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

You can't have 2 separate MM streams - defeats the purpose of MM.  If Xp/BP players want crystals they need to play in MM.  If they don't care about crystals they can play pro-battles.

they cant earn crystals in their own field- xp bp

[Ujju 11]

8 hours ago, Gauss-Hornet said:

If Tanki does implement XP/BP in MM, it would have all the supplies, overdrives, modules, drones and augments added to it, too. It would be nothing like what XP/BP is right now. I doubt anyone would like that.

you're right, i will agree to that. now this article only has the purpose to not let flash be deleted and let crystal earning be back in xp bp(clan is useless).

[wolverine848 13,097]

37 minutes ago, Kido said:

they cant earn crystals in their own field- xp bp

I know. 

Play Pro-battle (xp/bp) for fun.

Play MM for crystals.   Like the rest of us.

 

And how do you not understand TO has nothing to do with Flash going away.  That's Adobe.  Go write to them.

Edited July 11, 2020 by wolverine848

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

I like this idea, but the devs are trying to kill XP/BP as a game mode (they just defunded them a month ago) because of the rampant exp and crystal gains in a short amount of time in such battles.

 

[Ujju 11]

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

I know. 

Play Pro-battle (xp/bp) for fun.

Play MM for crystals.   Like the rest of us.

 

And how do you not understand TO has nothing to do with Flash going away.  That's Adobe.  Go write to them.

not adobe. I downloaded tanki flash from tanki online site only. Only after some updates was it that tanki online html came into download and flash was removed. The adobe flash is totally not related here. Now tanki online old client is called flash.

[Ujju 11]

4 minutes ago, sensei_tanker said:

I like this idea, but the devs are trying to kill XP/BP as a game mode (they just defunded them a month ago) because of the rampant exp and crystal gains in a short amount of time in such battles.

 

You're right but XP BP is still alive as we still play it. If flash is gone then I doubt its really killed because when you try XP BP in html, the control is too nasty and doesn't fit the usual control feeling from flash. I heard that devs gonna kill this flash..

[Mr.Threatz 61]

The devs are not the ones killing flash it's google and other browsers that are getting rid of flash,its one of the main reasons they built new client.

XP/BP is fun yes but to have it in MM is null. As I seen in a other fellow tankers comment it'll be too random unless you just use the group option.

So that being said GG and adapt to new client its really not all that bad.

[Ujju 11]

52 minutes ago, Mr.Threatz said:

The devs are not the ones killing flash it's google and other browsers that are getting rid of flash,its one of the main reasons they built new client.

XP/BP is fun yes but to have it in MM is null. As I seen in a other fellow tankers comment it'll be too random unless you just use the group option.

So that being said GG and adapt to new client its really not all that bad.

Okay so topic closed. But telling you, the new client is totally similar to html in control adaption. It sucks a lot in xp bp. I'd rather play in flash than new client because I like the control part of xp bp more..

[DieHard_4 3]

14 hours ago, Kido said:

MM is the general population of tanki...

    I wonder would people still prefer playing current state MM if it wasn't motivated by daily tasks / challenges. Anyway I think match-made XPBP quickplay could be very nice, cause waiting until teams +/+ is such a pain.

[Ujju 11]

5 minutes ago, DieHard_4 said:

    I wonder would people still prefer playing current state MM if it wasn't motivated by daily tasks / challenges. Anyway I think match-made XPBP quickplay could be very nice, cause waiting until teams +/+ is such a pain.

 

not bad, but requesting tanki to have such quick play button is not wrong! The quick play button to chose xp bp battle free in space from battle list can ease our waiting. 

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, Kido said:

not adobe. I downloaded tanki flash from tanki online site only. Only after some updates was it that tanki online html came into download and flash was removed. The adobe flash is totally not related here. Now tanki online old client is called flash.

Adobe is the parent company of FLASH - they own it.  They also no longer support it.

TO can't offer a game on a platform that no longer has support from the creator company (Adobe).

That is why TO is switching to HTML.  Blame it on Adobe.

[wolverine848 13,097]

14 minutes ago, DieHard_4 said:

I wonder would people still prefer playing current state MM if it wasn't motivated by daily tasks / challenges.

Challenges are ruining Tanki.   

Selfish players leave battles - even on teams that are winning - because they may not get 2+ stars.  Huge reason why battles end 8 vs 6 or 8 vs 5.

Challenges were designed for the no-lifers that complained they were not rewarded enough for spending their entire life in a computer game.  These people need to grow up.

[DieHard_4 3]

41 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Adobe is the parent company of FLASH - they own it.  They also no longer support it.

TO can't offer a game on a platform that no longer has support from the creator company (Adobe).

That is why TO is switching to HTML.  Blame it on Adobe.

    Flash in browser is gonna be dead. But Adobe AIR, platform on which the old tanki client is made, still continues to get updates. I doubt though Alternativa planning to maintain this version.

34 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Challenges are ruining Tanki...

    Totally agree. Very lazy strategy to keep the game in shape.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

2 hours ago, Kido said:

not adobe. I downloaded tanki flash from tanki online site only. Only after some updates was it that tanki online html came into download and flash was removed. The adobe flash is totally not related here. Now tanki online old client is called flash.

Seriously. Tanki didn't just all of a sudden decided to switch over to HTML simply became they wanted to. They did it because they had a choice between doing so or lose about 40%( don't know if that number is correct but it seemed reasonable to me) of their already dwindling player base.

 

Flash is dying because 1) it's an outdated platform especially when there are more modern platforms that are up-to-date 2) many browsers are cutting their ties with flash and 3) it limits any devs ability to fix bugs and glitches that they're game has.

 

So yes the HTML version isn't perfect and needs improvements, but also yes we have to accept the fact that flash will be gone soon.

[Viking4s 10,791]

5 hours ago, Kido said:

you're right, i will agree to that. now this article only has the purpose to not let flash be deleted and let crystal earning be back in xp bp(clan is useless).

1/ Adobe/flash is dead - no more support form the company who created it. This technology is outdated and out performed by HTML5. How TO HTML5 or flash differs is only related on how the devs coded TO with the 2 technology. TO has no choice to leave the sinking flash boat.
2/ XP/BP do not need crystal just toxicity.