Reduce power of garage supplies

[Gigalink 116]

Probably they don't ... yet I want to let them know my view ... mine and many others.

 

But let's remember that before hardcore druggers increase, Tanki had average daily players of 120k with 150k in weekends ... now we don't go over 70k ... that means something!

 

When there were no limits (the 12345 days) there were actually much less druggers. Maybe strange but true!

I think it's because druggers burned through their supplies a lot faster back then. Since there were no smart cooldowns, they just press 234 for every life they have. Then 1, then 5 if they are chased, then 234 again, then 1, then 234, etc.

 

Now, for druggers, they start by pressing 2 or 3, then depending on what they pressed first, they then press the other one. If they are a drug capper, then they do 2 first, then 5, then 1 to repair damage, then cap flag! Maybe 5 if they are chased.

 

It also doesn't help that Tanki sells supply kits for cheap and provide EXTRA supplies whenever you buy kits. With smart cooldowns slowing the rate of drug consumption and the selling of supply kits, It's a lot easier to sustain the drugging lifestyle than before. I just hope that drugs get nerfed in Tanki X.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Btw, check this guy, 127 supplies / hour, AND the rank OMG.

http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/Dliver/

 

He beat me to dust, using only DD + DA + Health pack (+prodigi, probably MUed), every single time. I literally couldn't kill him at all. What's the point in playing with such ... dudes? <_<

[RustyNail 1,538]

I think it's because druggers burned through their supplies a lot faster back then. Since there were no smart cooldowns, they just press 234 for every life they have. Then 1, then 5 if they are chased, then 234 again, then 1, then 234, etc.

 

Now, for druggers, they start by pressing 2 or 3, then depending on what they pressed first, they then press the other one. If they are a drug capper, then they do 2 first, then 5, then 1 to repair damage, then cap flag! Maybe 5 if they are chased.

 

It also doesn't help that Tanki sells supply kits for cheap and provide EXTRA supplies whenever you buy kits. With smart cooldowns slowing the rate of drug consumption and the selling of supply kits, It's a lot easier to sustain the drugging lifestyle than before. I just hope that drugs get nerfed in Tanki X.

Actually not.

There where few druggers before Tanki removed the crystal drops and before it gave away by mistake intentionally tons of free supplies so that everybody get to use them a lot.. Lame tactic...

[Gigalink 116]

Hmm, that makes sense.

 

Either way, it's annoying having to deal with one every battle. I know how to fight druggers easy, especially if they try to tap out by using their repairman too early, but the fact that I have to use my own garage supplies just to balance things out gets annoying.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

There's no reason to complain about something which is a big part of the game's gameplay. There are options in the "battlecreatetor" which allow you to create no-supplies-battles. So this problem is solved. And there are many who join such battles. In addition, there are battles like XP/BP in RU1 + many DMs in RU2 (no druggs there ;) )

So apparently you are completely oblivious to the various points we have made about why PRO battles/no-supply battles are an invalid solution.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I remember back in my happy days of using Shaft-Mammoth, DD was a luxury that let me hit a Hunter and kill it immediately.

Now it's a necessity.

[Benefactor 6,888]

Btw, check this guy, 127 supplies / hour, AND the rank OMG.

http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/Dliver/

 

He beat me to dust, using only DD + DA + Health pack (+prodigi, probably MUed), every single time. I literally couldn't kill him at all. What's the point in playing with such ... dudes? <_<

 Too target and kill them first and, if you are successful, then leave the battle while you are still one-up on him.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

And here's one for you who wonder why I hate XP players so much: http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/KILL_MOVES/

I have no words for it, he was the most unfriendly to EVERYONE that I've ever seen.

He multed, stole kills, and insulted both teams for not following his stupid format.

He had created the battle with the thought "Everyone who joins will automatically use my combo and play things MY way.". I showed him reality.

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

He had created the battle with the thought "Everyone who joins will automatically use my combo and play things MY way.". I showed him reality.

Unfortunately, there's a disconnect here between his and your points of view. Being an XP/BP player, I understand how frustrating it is when people don't play according to format. It's a problem with the system, not the players.

 

Here's the thing -- XP/BP format battles don't allow micro-upgraded gear at all. No micro-upgraded paints, hulls, or turrets. If you check the "Micro-Upgrades Allowed" button, it loses its XP/BP format. Consequently a lot of games that were intended to be XP/BP no longer force players to use that format, since they have to allow for micro-upgrades. It's dumb and needs to be fixed.

 

So let's say you wanna play some XP/BP. You make a game, put it to Sandbox CTF (the most popular XP/BP map), and start it. A few players join, you tell them to swap to XP/BP, and you begin playing. All is fine with the world.

 

Then some guy joins with his Titan M1 and starts dominating the others with his Vulcan. The entire flow of the game is messed up, the teams are obviously imbalanced, and one side starts suffering due to this imbalance. The game is no longer about skill, it's about which team has the upper hand due to the imbalance. Understandably, you'd be upset, right? Everyone is playing with XP/BP, but this one subversive insurgent won't, and he's messing up the game for everyone.

 

Unfortunately a lot of players don't know how to talk nicely, and they resort to calling that one player a noob or trying to vote him out of the battle. But I've had this happen to me a bazillion times -- some guy with M3 Isida or M3 Viking will show up and change the balance of the game. It's annoying but unavoidable, and getting mad is never the answer.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

First of all, I can understand that, but he's the one who came into battle with a few others using Wasp-Railgun.

Therefore I'm not really doing anything wrong, I'm just trying to play a normal game. I can understand having your day ruined by some guy who's just too ignorant or simply in the wrong place at the wrong time can make something inside you snap, but he's got to learn to handle his anger or something.

 

I just joined an innocent game of Polygon CTF with my Viking-Firebird, so it's not really my fault he lost easily...

 

He's using a Wasp on Polygon, and I have a Firebird, My whole views on the PRO battle pass and how ethical it is to not buy one and expect to play with the same settings have been discussed before. Dig deeper into my content if you want to know,

[BSG-62 512]

First of all, I can understand that, but he's the one who came into battle with a few others using Wasp-Railgun.

Therefore I'm not really doing anything wrong, I'm just trying to play a normal game. I can understand having your day ruined by some guy who's just too ignorant or simply in the wrong place at the wrong time can make something inside you snap, but he's got to learn to handle his anger or something.

 

I just joined an innocent game of Polygon CTF with my Viking-Firebird, so it's not really my fault he lost easily...

 

He's using a Wasp on Polygon, and I have a Firebird, My whole views on the PRO battle pass and how ethical it is to not buy one and expect to play with the same settings have been discussed before. Dig deeper into my content if you want to know,

​Some people in this game really need a wake up call. Or maybe PRO passes should be made cheaper. 

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

Your perspective on what is drugging is somehow different from ours.

We have defined drugging as the continues use of supplies, almost always more than one at a time.

Thus, a speed boost with a DD is drugging and imagine what it can do for a hornet+isida.. Also, using mines in combination with other supplies IS drugging (shaft making a circle with mines and using only DD or DA is greatly enhanced)...

Although there are occasions that we can't judge for sure from the profile (for example if one plays a lot Pro battles, then it's more difficult to appear as drugger despite he might be one or if another plays many hours parkour and uses supplies he appears as drugger but he isn't), we generally can tell a drugger by the ratio of total supplies used per hour of playing.

Take also into consideration that usually, it's playing with one player that shows to us if he's a drugger or not. Profile stats only confirm (or reject*) what our experience tells us.

 

*A few days ago I played against a player that seemed drugger to me, since I saw him quite often with two or three supplies on. After the battle finished, I visited his profile and saw a really low supplies used ratio. Something like 25 per hour.. That is not evidence of a drugger. So what happened? Maybe he was indeed very lucky or skilled and got a lot of drops, or maybe he was drugging at that particular battle but as an exception, or maybe he played a lot of no-supplies battles. Who knows... Untill better knowledge of him, I wouldn't call him drugger.

Read that, and yes, agreed, continuous use is a good measure.  Mine of perhaps having biased is just that, biased, and I ultimately submit that you are correct, too much is too much, of anything.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

My perspective of drugging is a bit different, referring to having at least DD and DA active, and using a repair kit to continue living through B.S. means.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

So I guess I should explain why my supply use went up...

I've been lightly drugging to gain small advantages, it's not excessive and the most I do is equip DD and take out five people, then die because of my refusal to use DA.

If you actually checked my profile and noticed, that's why my use has gone up.

[TG159 734]

So I guess I should explain why my supply use went up...

I've been lightly drugging to gain small advantages, it's not excessive and the most I do is equip DD and take out five people, then die because of my refusal to use DA.

If you actually checked my profile and noticed, that's why my use has gone up.

We don't care.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Good to know, but you cared enough to say that.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

[Chillin_Killin 76]

Yesterday I got engaged in some battles with executive druggers.. take a look:

 

1. http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/DejectedTomato/

 

2. http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/TankyTankerton/

 

(arrogant attitude as well)

 

3. http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/Abduss_the_dark/

 

Unpleasant experience. There must be a way so that druggers play with druggers and non druggers play with their own. :huh:

There is a way to play with non-druggers.. Simply make a pro battle :3

[TG159 734]

There is a way to play with non-druggers.. Simply make a pro battle :3

.they don't want to spend 5k crystals.

They do however spend hours I which they could make 10k crystals whining about it.

[BSG-62 512]

There is a way to play with non-druggers.. Simply make a pro battle :3

I ain't got no crystals for that. 

 

Even if i did, there's no point in buying them. There aren't too many PRO battles at my rank. Even when there are, a lot of them are either Parkour or just have 3 or 4 people in them before the battle vanishes. 

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

There is a way to play with non-druggers.. Simply make a pro battle :3

Y'all people either didn't read or came too late. We've already said why they aren't a solution multiple times and multiple reasons why.

 

1. Why should we pay for a fair fight? You should be paying for advantages like they already do with premium accounts and kits. Why not do the same with drugs?

2. Even if we do, the only pro battles ever made now are XP/BP, which not everyone has the format requirements to join. It's expensive, ya know.

3. 5k may not be expensive at these ranks, but it is extremely expensive at Second Lieutenant and below, where the battle fund does not grow that high and where drugs are most potent.

4. At those ranks, there aren't many pro battles and if there are, either they are parkour battles or there's no one playing.

5. There is an option to turn on or off micro-upgrades in the pro battle settings, so if that is turned on, there will still be M4s vs M3 and M3 vs M2, etc. Yes, I know you can turn it off but most Pro-non-drugging battles have it turned on.

6. 5k can make a big difference especially if you're saving up for new equipment

7. Pro battles are obviously not default and by default, I mean exist everywhere, accessible to everybody without prior purchases, passes, or otherwise bought advantages.

8. Building on #7 and extending #1, Pro battles are only for players with advantages and more battle choices, which not everyone has

9. Now you know why pro battles aren't a solution so take those pro battle arguments of yours and shove it back down that pitiful throat that it came out from.

[Brubook 1,161]

There is a way to play with non-druggers.. Simply make a pro battle :3

Wow, wow and wow again!

 

The mother of geniuses is always pregnant!!!

 

Did u have any read (try to google it) before here?

[Brubook 1,161]

.they don't want to spend 5k crystals.

They do however spend hours I which they could make 10k crystals whining about it.

Wow, wow and wow again! (should I say wow once more?)

 

The mother of geniuses is always pregnant!!! (part 2)

 

Did u have any read (try to google it) before here?

[RustyNail 1,538]

There is a way to play with non-druggers.. Simply make a pro battle :3

OMG! Wow... How come I never thought of that! ... Oh, wait... I did think of that.. but... (page 71)

 

.they don't want to spend 5k crystals.

They do however spend hours I which they could make 10k crystals whining about it.

You're so certain of that.... but ... reality is not what you think it is. ;)

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Hm, I wonder if this username is a coincidence...: http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/Brunoob/