Reduce power of garage supplies

[Kid95 67]

No offense meant, but I think some of you need to use your brains. 

 

     First off, I am not a drugger. Yes I use drugs, but I don't mash the 1 button when I get hurt, and I don't mash the 3 button when I spawn etc. Yet, I don't go complaining about druggers that much. With a bit of thinking, you'll see that they're the ones losing out. Take, for instance, a WO5 drugger. He has 200 drugs, and uses them a bunch. He soon becomes dependent on those drugs, and buys more. Because of his dependence on drugs, he is forced to spend 20k crystals for another 100 drugs to continue playing. Over time, he'll be forced to continue buying drugs, which will cause him to be severely UP because his crystals, which he should be using to get better equipment, will be spent on drugs.

 

     Now think of yourself. You're a WO5 and don't drug. Instead you save up your crystals and buy a kit, while also saving your drugs from missions. By Captain, you'll have 600 drugs, and an OP kit. You're still going against Mr. drugger who only has an M1 garage.

 

     My point is that, over time, the seemingly "OP" druggers will eventually become the ones unbalancing the game for a totally different reason. 

 

Of course, there'll always be buyers, but they're necessary to the game.

 

 

My point? Stop complaining. Things will be balanced out after a while, and the only true people who unbalance the game are the buyers (who keep the game running) and the helpers (who also keep the game running). Maybe you disagree, but I'd like to see what you think if you do.

 

 

 

KG

 

 

 

You actually read this long wall of text. Congrats!

Erm, I disagree.

 

A bunch of these druggers are buyers as well, that's why they don't bother worrying about how much they have. There's quite a number of these samples with crazy kits, so they don't lose out on anything other than the money they waste on a game.

 

No disrespect, but ever considered that?

[KillerGnat 3,135]

Erm, I disagree.

 

A bunch of these druggers are buyers as well, that's why they don't bother worrying about how much they have. There's quite a number of these samples with crazy kits, so they don't lose out on anything other than the money they waste on a game.

 

No disrespect, but ever considered that?

 

Of course, there'll always be buyers, but they're necessary to the game.

 

 

My point? Stop complaining. Things will be balanced out after a while, and the only true people who unbalance the game are the buyers (who keep the game running) and the helpers (who also keep the game running). Maybe you disagree, but I'd like to see what you think if you do.

 

   ^  :)

[TG159 734]

Erm, I disagree.

A bunch of these druggers are buyers as well, that's why they don't bother worrying about how much they have. There's quite a number of these samples with crazy kits, so they don't lose out on anything other than the money they waste on a game.

No disrespect, but ever considered that?

You can complain about buyers, but they are the reason this game is still running.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

I bet you they're paying those "pro" players to encourage this kinda stuff so they make more profit...  :ph34r:  :ph34r:

That's obvious. But this practice isn't just done by Tanki.

Just an example: Call of Duty Youtubers; the big ones. They actually sign a CONTRACT that basically says, "You promote/hype our game, we pay you. Even if there's BS going on in the background. Be as positive as possible."

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

I'm just wishing that all the druggers out there step on a lego but at the same time I feel sorry for them that that's the pathetic life they have to live, going around drugging because they lack skill and drug to compensate for that lack of skill.

Right about now...You pretty much have to drug just to defend yourself. Preposterous really. I now find myself in the middle like some of you here.

To be real honest though; even if drugs didn't exist in TO, I'd play the exact same way. And I'm a decent player; given a "proper" match. Rarely do I find my back against the wall. Just the fact my signature Turret/Hull are where they are is overkill enough. Adding drugs to it...Well.

[Kid95 67]

   ^  :)

My bad there. Was reading on a mobile so I must've not noticed it well enough. Thanks.

 

But I do feel that there are more buyers out there drugging like crazy, than regular players drugging. The number increases as you rank higher, and also another thing that makes me feel this way is the kits that they have that they use while drugging so that they keep dominating you. Assuming this is your main account, I believe you have more to see about the game.

 

Edit: I tend to write long - if not, longer - walls of text so yeah, I can deal with it:)

 

You can complain about buyers, but they are the reason this game is still running.

There are other ways of managing this game I believe. And I also feel there would be more people playing this game if drugging was heavily restricted or non-existent at all, as it would encourage better skill among players, as well as promote better respect between them (although that depends on a person's upbringing and background as well). Younger players would also learn the hard way and be better players in future.

 

I used to see a lot more people playing Tanki at one point. That number has dropped over time.

[Brubook 1,161]

 

KillerGnat said:

"Of course, there'll always be buyers, but they're necessary to the game."

 

and 

 

TG159 said:

"You can complain about buyers, but they are the reason this game is still running."

 

 

But ...

 

Why should be drugs the items to be bought? Of course the game needs an economy, but there are many alternatives! Combine drugs and cosmetics and the economy system works!

 

And

 

We never said to remove drugs ... but to rework them (try to get familiar with this over-written concept please!)

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

...I swear, repressing swearing to stay within Tanki's guidelines is so fudging hard.

 

Just figured out how much of a dipstick one of my friends is, and I'm flunking peeved as shiznit... like, holy fudgsicles (which are actually really tasty, by the way), some of the people I've befriended are nice and sweet around me, but they treat others like bullspit, and make me feel like nuckin futs when they act like that. I guess what I'm trying to say is that this one mother function treated me like a fragging ditch and made me feel like piddle.

 

...

 

Also, that's probably the weirdest paragraph I've ever written...

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I got banned for a day for adding "hole" to the end of a word. .-.

[RustyNail 1,538]

No offense meant, but I think some of you need to use your brains. 

 

     First off, I am not a drugger. Yes I use drugs, but I don't mash the 1 button when I get hurt, and I don't mash the 3 button when I spawn etc. Yet, I don't go complaining about druggers that much. With a bit of thinking, you'll see that they're the ones losing out. Take, for instance, a WO5 drugger. He has 200 drugs, and uses them a bunch. He soon becomes dependent on those drugs, and buys more. Because of his dependence on drugs, he is forced to spend 20k crystals for another 100 drugs to continue playing. Over time, he'll be forced to continue buying drugs, which will cause him to be severely UP because his crystals, which he should be using to get better equipment, will be spent on drugs.

 

     Now think of yourself. You're a WO5 and don't drug. Instead you save up your crystals and buy a kit, while also saving your drugs from missions. By Captain, you'll have 600 drugs, and an OP kit. You're still going against Mr. drugger who only has an M1 garage.

 

     My point is that, over time, the seemingly "OP" druggers will eventually become the ones unbalancing the game for a totally different reason. 

 

Of course, there'll always be buyers, but they're necessary to the game.

 

My point? Stop complaining. Things will be balanced out after a while, and the only true people who unbalance the game are the buyers (who keep the game running) and the helpers (who also keep the game running). Maybe you disagree, but I'd like to see what you think if you do.

 

KG

 

You actually read this long wall of text. Congrats!

Sorry dude, this "logic" has flaws. Major one, these guys that drug all the time make the game unbearable for us that can't compete in drugging. That's why we complain. I am not against druggers, I am against druggers and me in the same battle. They can go creat a full drugging battle and run a contest on who's gonna spend the most drugs, I couldn't care less. But standard battles that I am entitled to play, I don't want them with me.

Second thing that failed to cross your mind is that among us there are ex-buyers that stoped buying because of other people drugging. Yep, I'm one.

p.s. If you consider this (what you wrote) a large text, you don't know what a book is. I hope you learn.

 

KingGnat.

You know what you're talking about.

Listen to him.

Nope, he doesn't. You listen to me. The game is unbalanced and frustrating. If it was not, we wouldn't spend our time in the forum but in the game.

[MrsTankBuster2 141]

 

Second thing that failed to cross your mind is that among us there are ex-buyers that stoped buying because of other people drugging. Yep, I'm one.

 

I'm another!

[TG159 734]

My bad there. Was reading on a mobile so I must've not noticed it well enough. Thanks.

 

But I do feel that there are more buyers out there drugging like crazy, than regular players drugging. The number increases as you rank higher, and also another thing that makes me feel this way is the kits that they have that they use while drugging so that they keep dominating you. Assuming this is your main account, I believe you have more to see about the game.

 

Edit: I tend to write long - if not, longer - walls of text so yeah, I can deal with it:)

 

There are other ways of managing this game I believe. And I also feel there would be more people playing this game if drugging was heavily restricted or non-existent at all, as it would encourage better skill among players, as well as promote better respect between them (although that depends on a person's upbringing and background as well). Younger players would also learn the hard way and be better players in future.

 

I used to see a lot more people playing Tanki at one point. That number has dropped over time.

i kind of understand how your small heads (yes, u offend me i return favour k :) D/L mean nothing so stfu) can complain about buyers. and yes, dont say u dont cuz i know u do. 

 

No offense meant, but I think some of you need to use your brains. 

 

     First off, I am not a drugger. Yes I use drugs, but I don't mash the 1 button when I get hurt, and I don't mash the 3 button when I spawn etc. Yet, I don't go complaining about druggers that much. With a bit of thinking, you'll see that they're the ones losing out. Take, for instance, a WO5 drugger. He has 200 drugs, and uses them a bunch. He soon becomes dependent on those drugs, and buys more. Because of his dependence on drugs, he is forced to spend 20k crystals for another 100 drugs to continue playing. Over time, he'll be forced to continue buying drugs, which will cause him to be severely UP because his crystals, which he should be using to get better equipment, will be spent on drugs.

 

     Now think of yourself. You're a WO5 and don't drug. Instead you save up your crystals and buy a kit, while also saving your drugs from missions. By Captain, you'll have 600 drugs, and an OP kit. You're still going against Mr. drugger who only has an M1 garage.

 

     My point is that, over time, the seemingly "OP" druggers will eventually become the ones unbalancing the game for a totally different reason. 

 

Of course, there'll always be buyers, but they're necessary to the game.

 

 

My point? Stop complaining. Things will be balanced out after a while, and the only true people who unbalance the game are the buyers (who keep the game running) and the helpers (who also keep the game running). Maybe you disagree, but I'd like to see what you think if you do.

 

 

 

KG

 

 

 

You actually read this long wall of text. Congrats!

read again.

[TG159 734]

 

 

KillerGnat said:

"Of course, there'll always be buyers, but they're necessary to the game."

 

and 

 

TG159 said:

"You can complain about buyers, but they are the reason this game is still running."

 

 

But ...

 

Why should be drugs the items to be bought? Of course the game needs an economy, but there are many alternatives! Combine drugs and cosmetics and the economy system works!

 

And

 

We never said to remove drugs ... but to rework them (try to get familiar with this over-written concept please!)

 

Then consider ur wish granted. watch russian vids of Tanki x repair kit about cut in half. 

[TG159 734]

Sorry dude, this "logic" has flaws. Major one, these guys that drug all the time make the game unbearable for us that can't compete in drugging. That's why we complain. I am not against druggers, I am against druggers and me in the same battle. They can go creat a full drugging battle and run a contest on who's gonna spend the most drugs, I couldn't care less. But standard battles that I am entitled to play, I don't want them with me.

Second thing that failed to cross your mind is that among us there are ex-buyers that stoped buying because of other people drugging. Yep, I'm one.

p.s. If you consider this (what you wrote) a large text, you don't know what a book is. I hope you learn.

 

Nope, he doesn't. You listen to me. The game is unbalanced and frustrating. If it was not, we wouldn't spend our time in the forum but in the game.

its completly balanced, read this for more info.

 

No offense meant, but I think some of you need to use your brains. 

 

     First off, I am not a drugger. Yes I use drugs, but I don't mash the 1 button when I get hurt, and I don't mash the 3 button when I spawn etc. Yet, I don't go complaining about druggers that much. With a bit of thinking, you'll see that they're the ones losing out. Take, for instance, a WO5 drugger. He has 200 drugs, and uses them a bunch. He soon becomes dependent on those drugs, and buys more. Because of his dependence on drugs, he is forced to spend 20k crystals for another 100 drugs to continue playing. Over time, he'll be forced to continue buying drugs, which will cause him to be severely UP because his crystals, which he should be using to get better equipment, will be spent on drugs.

 

     Now think of yourself. You're a WO5 and don't drug. Instead you save up your crystals and buy a kit, while also saving your drugs from missions. By Captain, you'll have 600 drugs, and an OP kit. You're still going against Mr. drugger who only has an M1 garage.

 

     My point is that, over time, the seemingly "OP" druggers will eventually become the ones unbalancing the game for a totally different reason. 

 

Of course, there'll always be buyers, but they're necessary to the game.

 

My point? Stop complaining. Things will be balanced out after a while, and the only true people who unbalance the game are the buyers (who keep the game running) and the helpers (who also keep the game running). Maybe you disagree, but I'd like to see what you think if you do.

 

KG

 

You actually read this long wall of text. Congrats!

[KillerGnat 3,135]

Text

:lol: Wonderfully written.

 

Sorry dude, this "logic" has flaws. Major one, these guys that drug all the time make the game unbearable for us that can't compete in drugging. That's why we complain. I am not against druggers, I am against druggers and me in the same battle. They can go creat a full drugging battle and run a contest on who's gonna spend the most drugs, I couldn't care less. But standard battles that I am entitled to play, I don't want them with me.

Second thing that failed to cross your mind is that among us there are ex-buyers that stoped buying because of other people drugging. Yep, I'm one.

p.s. If you consider this (what you wrote) a large text, you don't know what a book is. I hope you learn.

 

Nope, he doesn't. You listen to me. The game is unbalanced and frustrating. If it was not, we wouldn't spend our time in the forum but in the game.

Ok, I realize that drugging isn't as bad at lower ranks (thank heavens), but I still don't know what you all mean by "we can't compete." I'm looking at this from purely a nuggish standpoint of course, but I'll try anyways. 

 

I'm a 3rd Lt. who's spent three dollars on a week of premium in my entire Tanki career so far. I've bought one kit (the Predator) and no supply kits, and yet I already have 104 RKs, 526 DAs, 399 DDs, 279 Nitros, and 187 Mines. Now, that's by no means an OP amount, but it's more than enough to compete if I need to (luckily the hardcore drugging at these ranks is almost non-existent, so I don't need to waste much). 

 

So, assuming that you're like me, and complete missions, by the time you're a Major, you'll have almost 1000 of certain drugs. During that time, the druggers will have been wasting money on drug kits, and only have crabby M1 equipment. Then, you'll proceed to kill them with ease. Of course at Gismo, where people have nothing to spend their crystals on but 1500 supply kits, but that's when you take out your carefully saved supplies and start drugging back a bit. You may think differently, but I find nothing wrong with counter drugging. 

 

Again, I'll restate my opinion. The only people that will permanently unbalance the game are buyers, because druggers can't keep up their ways for too long. If you have any arguments against that, then tell them, I'm interested to hear what you have to say.

 

 

And TG159. Don't get too riled up over this please  :).

[KillerGnat 3,135]

We never said to remove drugs ... but to rework them (try to get familiar with this over-written concept please!)

This is the kind of talk I wanna hear more :). Some discussing about how we can nerf drugs, instead of coming here to complain about certain druggers we've come across in-game. I'm even for nerfing drugs a bit, so let's talk about how.

[TG159 734]

:lol: Wonderfully written.

 

Ok, I realize that drugging isn't as bad at lower ranks (thank heavens), but I still don't know what you all mean by "we can't compete." I'm looking at this from purely a nuggish standpoint of course, but I'll try anyways. 

 

I'm a 3rd Lt. who's spent three dollars on a week of premium in my entire Tanki career so far. I've bought one kit (the Predator) and no supply kits, and yet I already have 104 RKs, 526 DAs, 399 DDs, 279 Nitros, and 187 Mines. Now, that's by no means an OP amount, but it's more than enough to compete if I need to (luckily the hardcore drugging at these ranks is almost non-existent, so I don't need to waste much). 

 

So, assuming that you're like me, and complete missions, by the time you're a Major, you'll have almost 1000 of certain drugs. During that time, the druggers will have been wasting money on drug kits, and only have crabby M1 equipment. Then, you'll proceed to kill them with ease. Of course at Gismo, where people have nothing to spend their crystals on but 1500 supply kits, but that's when you take out your carefully saved supplies and start drugging back a bit. You may think differently, but I find nothing wrong with counter drugging. 

 

Again, I'll restate my opinion. The only people that will permanently unbalance the game are buyers, because druggers can't keep up their ways for too long. If you have any arguments against that, then tell them, I'm interested to hear what you have to say.

Yes, in games like Tanki, patience is key.

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

Ok, I realize that drugging isn't as bad at lower ranks (thank heavens), but I still don't know what you all mean by "we can't compete."

You'll have to excuse me and a lot of my "stop the drug" campaigners, we don't always say what we really mean to say.

 

I had a couple missions to complete, so I joined a Wolfenstein CTF and started playing. Being the Wolfenstein freak that I am, I found it pretty easy to snag quite a few kills with my little Firebug, until a couple of the enemy gamers (twins, no less) started using drugs. I was still able to toast most of their buns because of how good I am at ninja-ing around the battlefield, but when they saw me they'd DD and take me out in a few hits.

 

After a few minutes, almost everyone on both teams was drugging. I'd even popped a couple, either by accident (I don't know if I've explained my keyboard problem here yet...) or to counter-drug, but for the most part I was playing clean. It was chaotic -- I'd get killed by a DD/DA, spawn and kill another DD/DA, turn around and be blasted by another, etc. But I still managed to keep the highest score in the game, despite all the drugs going around. And hell, that round was fun.

 

What I'm trying to say is that -- yes, we non-druggers CAN compete, but it's much more difficult. It's immensely frustrating when you pour your entire energy pool into some dumbass who wasn't watching his butt only to see him pop a repair kit. And while we CAN compete, we definitely don't get as high a reward as we should had everyone just played clean.

 

In short, drugs are a good mechanic; they make the game fun and dynamic, but they need to be nerfed or reworked. They don't make the game outright unplayable for non-druggers, but they do make it immensely difficult.

 

As for the keyboard issues I mentioned earlier, while they don't pertain directly to drugs, it's still something I'd like to get out there for y'all. I'll use a spoiler so as not to be flagged for irrelevant content. :3

 

 

 

So for those of you who actually view my profile, you'll notice that I've used quite a few Repair Kits and Double Armors. Alright, not THAT many, but for a vocal anti-drugger, it looks like I've used quite a few. Well, to be honest, I didn't mean to use a lot of them. My keyboard drugs for me.

 

I don't know why this is, but when I hit a combination of Z, Down, and Space, I get a 1. If I hit X + Down + Space, I get a 2. If I hit C + Down + Space, I get a 3, and so on. I'm guessing it's something to do with my computer's inner wiring, but I honestly don't know what's up with it.

 

Of course, Z/Down/Space is the combo for Turret Left/Move Backwards/Fire Turret (and since I use Firebird I'm holding down Space a lot). Therefore, whenever I want to turn my turret left while fighting and moving backwards, I use a Repair Kit. Most of the time I'm running with the flag or backing off from combat, so it looks like I consciously drugged, when in reality I didn't mean to. Same goes for DA.

 

I know this sounds incredible and weird, but I honestly hate the entire mechanic. It wastes my Repair Kits and makes me look like a hypocrite. So if ever you play with me and I drug against you, there's a very high chance that I didn't mean to.

 

Just had to get this out there...

 

 

 

[personia 4,036]

...I swear, repressing swearing to stay within Tanki's guidelines is so fudging hard.

 

Just figured out how much of a dipstick one of my friends is, and I'm flunking peeved as shiznit... like, holy fudgsicles (which are actually really tasty, by the way), some of the people I've befriended are nice and sweet around me, but they treat others like bullspit, and make me feel like nuckin futs when they act like that. I guess what I'm trying to say is that this one mother function treated me like a fragging ditch and made me feel like piddle.

 

...

 

Also, that's probably the weirdest paragraph I've ever written...

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

 

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

 

I have no words for how funny that was. :D

 

Nope, he doesn't. You listen to me. The game is unbalanced and frustrating. If it was not, we wouldn't spend our time in the forum but in the game.

Bruh... Bruh... KillerGnat knows his stuff bruh... Like, dude... Just chill.

 

This is the kind of talk I wanna hear more :). Some discussing about how we can nerf drugs, instead of coming here to complain about certain druggers we've come across in-game. I'm even for nerfing drugs a bit, so let's talk about how.

^See, this is what I mean.

[BSG-62 512]

​How many times have we repeated this: We do not want drugs to be removed. We simply want a limit or other alternative solution to make battles more balanced.

 

Drugs are supposed to be a temporary boost. I have no problem with people occasionally pressing 1-2-3-4-5. The problem arises when people will continuously use them as a part of normal gaming, whether or not there is even a point. This is when drugging almost becomes a permanent thing.  

[RustyNail 1,538]

its completly balanced, read this for more info.

 

No offense meant, but I think some of you need to use your brains. 

 

     First off, I am not a drugger. Yes I use drugs, but I don't mash the 1 button when I get hurt, and I don't mash the 3 button when I spawn etc. Yet, I don't go complaining about druggers that much. With a bit of thinking, you'll see that they're the ones losing out. Take, for instance, a WO5 drugger. He has 200 drugs, and uses them a bunch. He soon becomes dependent on those drugs, and buys more. Because of his dependence on drugs, he is forced to spend 20k crystals for another 100 drugs to continue playing. Over time, he'll be forced to continue buying drugs, which will cause him to be severely UP because his crystals, which he should be using to get better equipment, will be spent on drugs.

 

     Now think of yourself. You're a WO5 and don't drug. Instead you save up your crystals and buy a kit, while also saving your drugs from missions. By Captain, you'll have 600 drugs, and an OP kit. You're still going against Mr. drugger who only has an M1 garage.

 

     My point is that, over time, the seemingly "OP" druggers will eventually become the ones unbalancing the game for a totally different reason. 

 

Of course, there'll always be buyers, but they're necessary to the game.

 

My point? Stop complaining. Things will be balanced out after a while, and the only true people who unbalance the game are the buyers (who keep the game running) and the helpers (who also keep the game running). Maybe you disagree, but I'd like to see what you think if you do.

 

KG

 

You actually read this long wall of text. Congrats!

What makes you think I didn't read this? I read all posts in this topic.

Perhaps you should read it and especially the first sentence. Because you don't. You can theorize all you want about the game being balanced, since I play it and it seems quite unbalanced to me your theories mean nothing. Whatever I tell you to prove that it's night, since your eyes tell you it's day, it's day. Period.

But you know what? It's crystal clear that you have run out of arguments and repeat the same and the same again. In other words, you post your OPINION. Against the way the game feels. So, you 're never going to prove a point, if there is one.

Nice talking to you.

[RustyNail 1,538]

:lol: Wonderfully written.

 

Ok, I realize that drugging isn't as bad at lower ranks (thank heavens), but I still don't know what you all mean by "we can't compete." I'm looking at this from purely a nuggish standpoint of course, but I'll try anyways. 

 

I'm a 3rd Lt. who's spent three dollars on a week of premium in my entire Tanki career so far. I've bought one kit (the Predator) and no supply kits, and yet I already have 104 RKs, 526 DAs, 399 DDs, 279 Nitros, and 187 Mines. Now, that's by no means an OP amount, but it's more than enough to compete if I need to (luckily the hardcore drugging at these ranks is almost non-existent, so I don't need to waste much). 

 

So, assuming that you're like me, and complete missions, by the time you're a Major, you'll have almost 1000 of certain drugs. During that time, the druggers will have been wasting money on drug kits, and only have crabby M1 equipment. Then, you'll proceed to kill them with ease. Of course at Gismo, where people have nothing to spend their crystals on but 1500 supply kits, but that's when you take out your carefully saved supplies and start drugging back a bit. You may think differently, but I find nothing wrong with counter drugging. 

 

Again, I'll restate my opinion. The only people that will permanently unbalance the game are buyers, because druggers can't keep up their ways for too long. If you have any arguments against that, then tell them, I'm interested to hear what you have to say.

 

 

And TG159. Don't get too riled up over this please  :).

We can't compete as in "we can't spend the number of supplies they spend". If they use 10 DD (for instance) and we can use only 2, that's a X5 the fire power of us. The same with all the others, and most of all, health kits. You can tell a supplies buyer by the number of health kits he consumes.

As you climb the rank ladder, usage of supplies rises, and number of supply users rises also. That is a geometrical increase in total supplies used.

Keeping in mind that most often druggers are buyers as well, that means that on top of supplies, they have more items, alternative weapons (turrets, hulls), a lot more paints (or more expensive paints) and superior MUs.. if you add all these, it's a hell of a lot of power.

When I first played Tanki (and for a lot of months) the game was about buying items, paints and MUs. Buyers spend their real money on crystals for that short of things. Later on, Tanki promoted supplies as well, and created a market for this. So, adding on the previous elements of power, supplies came to make buyers really OP.

It's fair enough that buyers have an advantage. That means that they get to win more times than non buyers. But when they get to win EVERY TIME then it's not a simple advantage, it's an exploitation of non buyers. That's what it is to say "the game is unbalanced". And this is definitely by choice of the devs. That is not fair. Not fair for many non buyers players that contribute by their presence and the (once, not anymore) publicity they made for Tanki.

(more on this stuff are on page 71 of this topic)

 

Bottom line to what you wrote, is if one uses the supplies earned by missions to compete the average drugger, then in a few days this one will run out of supplies altogether. That's how many supplies are needed to "compete". And anyone that does not play XP/BP but standard battles only, can confirm it.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I'm a 3rd Lt. who's spent three dollars on a week of premium in my entire Tanki career so far. I've bought one kit (the Predator) and no supply kits, and yet I already have 104 RKs, 526 DAs, 399 DDs, 279 Nitros, and 187 Mines. Now, that's by no means an OP amount, but it's more than enough

By coincidence I am such a Major, that you talked about.

 

 

So lets see if I could compete:

 

 

I completet all missions, and my drug depot is by today:

RK 150, DA 340, DD 430, Nitro 280, Mines 147.

(Quite some drugs came by the kit I got recently (Mosquito Kit))

 

I consider somone beeing a drugg abuser if he uses 20+ drugs per hour.. some say it starts with 40+ .. whatever.

 

 

[A] - Which drugs per hour rate could I archive with my free drugs?

RK+DA+DD+Nitro = 1200 pieces  (mines not counted for me)

total playing time = 370 hours

possible max. drugrate per hour = 1200 / 370 = 3,24 drugs per HOUR.

 

=> So even if I would have blown out all I have by now, I would not even count as a drug-newbe..

 

- What if I "just counter-drug"?

What if I use my drugs only in the last 5 minutes of a 15 minutes battle?

(but then at a rate of 60 drugs per hour - or 5 drugs in the last 5 minutes - in order to counter druggers)

 

RK+DA+DD+Nitro = 1200 pieces  (mines not counted for me)

drugs per 15min. battle = 5 drugs/battle ;   => 20 drugs/hour

max time I can keep this up = 1200 / 20 = 60 hours of counterdrugging

 

=> In a game time of 370 hours I collected free drugs that work for 60 hours conterdrugging.

This is not competative.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I could have more drugs by now.. why don't I?

 

 

I usually change drug missions away in order to get crystal missions.

Why? Because I made some calculations and learned, that with "just playing the game" you can have a maximum of:

- 2 hulls @-25%

- 3 turrets @-25%

- 2 good paints @-25%

until you are Gismo.. then you are left with zero crystals.

Meaning just 3/50 microupgrades.. so far from M4.

 

 

So I rather use my missions for crystals then for drugs.

crystals = multiple gear = versatile gameplay = fun for me.

 

And everyone that decides for buying drugs + average garage without spending real money.. will find himself in a very uncomfortable situation by the time his favorite M3 equipment unlocks.

 

 

 

 

Conclusion

- So a player that saves for a average garage, can not afford drugs in the game - without spending money.

- The drugs that non-buyers receive, help next to nothing if they face a real drugger

- If you search for battles with next-to-no druggers (like I do search for every day), then you still have the pretty high risk that a drugger joins in late, turns the battle, slaugherts your team, and steals the fund.

- Pro battles are no alternative if your rank is below

- higher ranked pro-battles are mainly

 -> polygon CP multiweapon

 -> XP/BP

 

- A buyer that has a full M3 garage does not harm anyone. He can only equip one gear at a time.

- A buyer that has just two M3 combo's (maybe both M4 due to the last micrupgrades-update) and invest all other crystals into drugs, can give you the creeps on the battlefield.

- Kit buyers harm the game only temporary - until they rank into the usual 'unlock' ranks of their equiipment.

 

 

Thats the situiation in the game, broken down on numbers.

You will face, once you rank up higher.

[Bydo 20,139]

look we will debate this for year's ...druggers have been here even when i started  back in 2013 ..i know i was a huge drugger back then and it was way better on buying drugs you got way better deals compared to now..back then it was more less then it it is today .. today in every game you get half or more in battles //druggers ..is there any way around this..

 

yea..there has been and majority of players are  fully aware of pro battles

 

this is the only way to enjoy a good battle with even balanced teams with out the drugs...

[TG159 734]

What makes you think I didn't read this? I read all posts in this topic.

Perhaps you should read it and especially the first sentence. Because you don't. You can theorize all you want about the game being balanced, since I play it and it seems quite unbalanced to me your theories mean nothing. Whatever I tell you to prove that it's night, since your eyes tell you it's day, it's day. Period.

But you know what? It's crystal clear that you have run out of arguments and repeat the same and the same again. In other words, you post your OPINION. Against the way the game feels. So, you 're never going to prove a point, if there is one.

Nice talking to you.

Yup, it's also your opinion that the game is unbalanced.