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This is the kind of talk I wanna hear more :). Some discussing about how we can nerf drugs, instead of coming here to complain about certain druggers we've come across in-game. I'm even for nerfing drugs a bit, so let's talk about how.

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Again, I'll restate my opinion. The only people that will permanently unbalance the game are buyers, because druggers can't keep up their ways for too long. If you have any arguments against that, then tell them, I'm interested to hear what you have to say
 
This is not totally wrong. Buyers are druggers with OP equipment too. But, as I said and you seem to agree with me, both category use an overpowered item ... drugs! One category uses them for a limited time (yet annoying if you are there at that time) and the other category uses them all over their career (as buying allow them to do that).
 
So, the main point, as stated in many posts (see #1 or sum up linked there), is to reduce drugs overpower and limit excessive usage.

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look we will debate this for year's ...druggers have been here even when i started  back in 2013 ..i know i was a huge drugger back then and it was way better on buying drugs you got way better deals compared to now..back then it was more less then it it is today .. today in every game you get half or more in battles //druggers ..is there any way around this..

 

yea..there has been and majority of players are  fully aware of pro battles

 

this is the only way to enjoy a good battle with even balanced teams with out the drugs...

To your last sentence I would add "for a generalissimo"

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Yup, it's also your opinion that the game is unbalanced.

Wrong

 

If you fight with 1 tank against 2/4 tanks (the equivalent of a DA or a DA+RK) that is unbalance!
 
This is a FACT, not an opinion!
 
 
If you have two 8 players teams and half of one team is on DA+RK (usual situation), you actually have 8 players vs 20 players. This is unbalance! Again, this is a fact! (do some maths)
 
And I am talking about resistance only. Add DD on top of that and think about it.

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this goes for about half the ranks up most enjoy good non drug battles and i have seen both in my time here and its not easy telling players in the beginning not to use them and they don't then you have players joining later in regular battles and they just ignore what other tankers want so it ends up being a drug war no matter what ..i do understand both sides ..i even tell the lower rank players not to waste your drugs and make sure to grab the free drug box's but i can tell u there are so many that still have no clue  on how to play the game from the lower 10 ranks and down its makes me sick to see them using drugs or not even going for the gold box's

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Hey, if all the "pros" in the game decided to play in their own "pro games where everyone can drug", that's fine. But if you mix druggers with non-druggers, you can expect there to be an issue.

 

Alright, first off... we didn't say that all druggers are smart. From what I've seen for myself, a lot of them are dumb button-mashers who can't turn their turrets. They had to learn how to work around smart cooldowns because it's easier to learn when to mash buttons than actual skill. So while they're "smart" in that area, the general drugger populace is still pretty stupid. So no, no loop hole. Sorry to burst your bubble. ;)

 

A lot of players don't like buying PRO passes because:

 

1. It's 5K crystals, and we can't just pull that out of our butts.

2. The reason for buying a PRO pass is stupid. We shouldn't have to pay to get fair battles.

3. There are very few drug-free PRO battles at any given rank. Most of them are parkour/999 minute battles made by stupid people.

 

And while I did buy a PRO pass and am enjoying it, that's only because I had a surplus of crystals, which is super rare for anyone. So this "solution" doesn't really fix the problem, sorry.

 

Picture this. You're playing in a very nice, pretty easy-going, drug-free, 30-minute Serpuhov CTF. You've been playing for about 25 minutes and it looks like you're gonna get a pretty fair chunk of the generous battle fund.

 

All of a sudden, a Mammoth/Twins waltzes into your base with Double Armor, laying mines like a horse defecating, and takes the flag. As he's driving away, he uses a Repair Kit and is instantly back to full health. As a team, you're powerless to stop him, and he makes the flag capture. Rinse repeat until the battle ends, at which you've been robbed of your nice big battle fund cut by some low-life tryhard drugger.

 

Now, is that fair?

 

If you say "well just leave the battle!" that's even less fair.

 

Thousands of players are actually doing that. The game will probably be dead soon, so you won't have to worry about any of it.

 

I'm so sick of that overrated game...  <_<

 

...We were discussing possible solutions to the drug problems, not "Five of This Random-Ass Dude's Favorite Pastimes".

 

Bite my ass. I dare you.

I was once like you so I know how you feel,but if you are like me then you will eventually realize the fun of drugging.

P.S Not gonna bite your crappy butt.

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this goes for about half the ranks up most enjoy good non drug battles and i have seen both in my time here and its not easy telling players in the beginning not to use them and they don't then you have players joining later in regular battles and they just ignore what other tankers want so it ends up being a drug war no matter what ..i do understand both sides ..i even tell the lower rank players not to waste your drugs and make sure to grab the free drug box's but i can tell u there are so many that still have no clue  on how to play the game from the lower 10 ranks and down its makes me sick to see them using drugs or not even going for the gold box's

 
This is partially true. There are also many and many alt account players that obviously have some skills and knowledge of how to use drugs. They often abuse them and in that case even 1 single alt acc drugger can make the difference in a battle.
 
You say higher ranks can go pro, I say mainly gismos. Because most pro players (gismos) still have MUs on and superior paints (MUed btw) and you surely know how hard it is to play with a M2 vs an M3. Same thing between M3 and M4. If you add some more experience for the gismo and maybe better or more MUed paint, the conclusion is that maybe only gismo and the immediate lower rank can battle together with some sort of balance ... IMO
 
But, even this difficulty (the M3 vs M4 battle) is definitely better than a drugger vs a non drugger battle (like an M3 vs an M7 battle). I surely prefer to fight against a higher M than against a drugger!

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well i had my .. no-one-cares account upgraded the whole way from start to now which only has about less then 10% to go before it's m4 so when i was lower ..it was way to easy to kill with out drugs it got harder about the gold star levels cause thats when the druggers really came out and now for me to battle at those ranks it would take too long now to get to gizmo...

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Shhh, shh, hey, hey, it's okay. If the drugger wants to keep pushing his opinions in our faces, that's fine. He's only helping the stereotype. Just calm your buttocks.

 

Just remember, TG159 -- opinions are like farts. If you have to force one, it's probably crap.

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Shhh, shh, hey, hey, it's okay. If the drugger wants to keep pushing his opinions in our faces, that's fine. He's only helping the stereotype. Just calm your buttocks.

 

Just remember, TG159 -- opinions are like farts. If you have to force one, it's probably crap.

Wut?

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Shhh, shh, hey, hey, it's okay. If the drugger wants to keep pushing his opinions in our faces, that's fine. He's only helping the stereotype. Just calm your buttocks.

 

Just remember, TG159 -- opinions are like farts. If you have to force one, it's probably crap.

LOOOOOOL

:D :D :D :D

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Well...I guess nicknames can be deceiving cuz I thought you were a boy cuz of the "lord" part of the your nickname. 

thats too good ..

 

i have also

Titanium-9000

no-one-cares

oh-really

queenmom

my son's are

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I got banned for a day for adding "hole" to the end of a word. .-.

Haha, sorry about laughing, although I do feel sorry for you at the same time. Tough luck man.

 

i kind of understand how your small heads (yes, u offend me i return favour k :) D/L mean nothing so stfu) can complain about buyers. and yes, dont say u dont cuz i know u do. 

 

read again.

1) I never offended anybody ever since my last rant. If you're going to take it that way, well fine, that's your problem.

2) Nice abbreviation within those brackets, pity if someone....reported you (anyways that wouldn't be me, got no time for that). Learn some respect. 

3) Yes, I read it again, and well enough to understand.

4) Comparing D/Ls now? I'm 21, and although I have a greater D/L, comparing D/L to prove a point is just kiddish. I know good players with lower D/Ls. It doesn't mean they're bad, they only focus on the game differently.   

 

Shhh, shh, hey, hey, it's okay. If the drugger wants to keep pushing his opinions in our faces, that's fine. He's only helping the stereotype. Just calm your buttocks.

 

Just remember, TG159 -- opinions are like farts. If you have to force one, it's probably crap.

Oh man, that was by far the funniest post I've seen here.

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AlphaNinjaGirl: I wish more than anyone that I could traipse through the enemy base laying mines like a defecating horse, but smart cool-downs will not allow me or anyone else to do so..  Great image though!!   

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...I swear, repressing swearing to stay within Tanki's guidelines is so fudging hard.

 

Just figured out how much of a dipstick one of my friends is, and I'm flunking peeved as shiznit... like, holy fudgsicles (which are actually really tasty, by the way), some of the people I've befriended are nice and sweet around me, but they treat others like bullspit, and make me feel like nuckin futs when they act like that. I guess what I'm trying to say is that this one mother function treated me like a fragging ditch and made me feel like piddle.

 

...

 

Also, that's probably the weirdest paragraph I've ever written...

I'll agree that the paragraph you wrote was probably weird.

Eh...Tanki's guidelines aren't necessarily 'hard' to follow as you say. Some of them are ridiculous; yes, I mean really ridiculous. I didn't get removed from my Chat Mod position for nothing, lol... But I've never seen someone be so angry at them. Chill, really. You make yourself sound more immature the more I kill myself to read some of the ridiculous things you say. I understand the frustration of everyone in here (And mind you, I used to be a fairly "heavy" drugger". But I'm moving away from using them as much as possible though), but there's a better way to address it.  :mellow:  Don't take it personal.

Sorry to get off topic though, I just don't think it's really needed for some of us to be using terms and whatnot in the manner that some of us have been. Even if it's within the boundaries. We can all speak like civilized human beings in here.

 

Yes, in games like Tanki, patience is key.

That's like a coin; your statement. On one end, this game is "easy". The controls; customization; etc...Not much patience needed there. The other side of the coin, you have to deal with the atrocious way that people play this game. From the mad druggers down to players that really just appear to have their minds elsewhere in the game. Combine the two issues I mentioned and...May as well leave the game and find something else to do.

Really a game that requires patience is World of Tanks/Warships. You go through a series of grinds; good/bad matchups; players that know the game better than you; the list goes on.

 

 

I believe rabbit is the more accurate term, they leave pellets everywhere.

If there's ANYTHING any of us can agree on in here besides nerfing durgs; it's got to be the Mine Rabbits. I cringe every time I see a base full of them and you've got some lousy slouch camping...And he/she is the one who dropped them.

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If there's ANYTHING any of us can agree on in here besides nerfing durgs; it's got to be the Mine Rabbits. I cringe every time I see a base full of them and you've got some lousy slouch camping...And he/she is the one who dropped them.

To be fair, those that have laid multiple mines have a vested interest in staying alive, hence the camping/defensive posture. Why would they go out risking getting destroyed?

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Haha, sorry about laughing, although I do feel sorry for you at the same time. Tough luck man.

 

 

1) I never offended anybody ever since my last rant. If you're going to take it that way, well fine, that's your problem.

2) Nice abbreviation within those brackets, pity if someone....reported you (anyways that wouldn't be me, got no time for that). Learn some respect. 

3) Yes, I read it again, and well enough to understand.

4) Comparing D/Ls now? I'm 21, and although I have a greater D/L, comparing D/L to prove a point is just kiddish. I know good players with lower D/Ls. It doesn't mean they're bad, they only focus on the game differently.   

 

 

Oh man, that was by far the funniest post I've seen here.

Read posts k, someone pints out my DL is 1.03 and I was saying it no matter, thanks for Proving my point.

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Shhh, shh, hey, hey, it's okay. If the drugger wants to keep pushing his opinions in our faces, that's fine. He's only helping the stereotype. Just calm your buttocks.

 

Just remember, TG159 -- opinions are like farts. If you have to force one, it's probably crap.

Lol, old thing tho, clever to combine it with opinions at the beginning, although it doesn't make complete sense.

Anyways, I'm not a drugger. So, I dint know where u got that from.

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