Reduce power of garage supplies

[KillerGnat 3,135]

 

You said:

Again, I'll restate my opinion. The only people that will permanently unbalance the game are buyers, because druggers can't keep up their ways for too long. If you have any arguments against that, then tell them, I'm interested to hear what you have to say

 

This is not totally wrong. Buyers are druggers with OP equipment too. But, as I said and you seem to agree with me, both category use an overpowered item ... drugs! One category uses them for a limited time (yet annoying if you are there at that time) and the other category uses them all over their career (as buying allow them to do that).

 

So, the main point, as stated in many posts (see #1 or sum up linked there), is to reduce drugs overpower and limit excessive usage.

 

Kk, then why don't we do that. The main reason I began posting here was because I saw almost nothing that was actually helpful here, and wanted to change that.

 

Let's face it, many of the posts are one person telling a story about how his/her game was ruined by a drugger, that post gets a bunch of upvotes from the main people in the topic, one of the frequent posters says something about how drugging is causing massive imbalance, and how they should be nerfed (without actually giving any suggestions for it), then an outsider who is for drugs come in and says "Drugs are good the way they are," which gets most of the topic frequenters to come and give their millions of reasons for nerfing drugs (again, without giving any actual ideas). This cycle is then repeated over and over.

 

Tbh, as an outsider non-drugger who is not against drugs, it seems kinda pathetic the way you're doing it. If you did more discussion on how to nerf drugs, then maybe you'd have more people coming to your topic. As it is, this topic sorta has a reputation of being a rant topic in the forum. You've said exactly the same things over and ever since the beginning of this topic. Imho, I would act if I were you. Maybe PM the community manager, or Hazel-Rah. Ask them to think about putting the option to either limit, or completely remove drugs from normal battles. Bombard them with good reasons. If you give enough proof that it should be implemented, they'll probably listen.

 

As for you guys who are replying to my posts, we hold very similar views, so I won't even answer you. I think we all agree that the only true druggers are buyers, and that buyers are nearly always OP. You don't need to convince me that drugging is OP, or that it unbalances the game, so don't even waste you breath ;).

[Indra_Otsutsuki 329]

Kk, then why don't we do that. The main reason I began posting here was because I saw almost nothing that was actually helpful here, and wanted to change that.

 

Let's face it, many of the posts are one person telling a story about how his/her game was ruined by a drugger, that post gets a bunch of upvotes from the main people in the topic, one of the frequent posters says something about how drugging is causing massive imbalance, and how they should be nerfed (without actually giving any suggestions for it), then an outsider who is for drugs come in and says "Drugs are good the way they are," which gets most of the topic frequenters to come and give their millions of reasons for nerfing drugs (again, without giving any actual ideas). This cycle is then repeated over and over.

 

Tbh, as an outsider non-drugger who is not against drugs, it seems kinda pathetic the way you're doing it. If you did more discussion on how to nerf drugs, then maybe you'd have more people coming to your topic. As it is, this topic sorta has a reputation of being a rant topic in the forum. You've said exactly the same things over and ever since the beginning of this topic. Imho, I would act if I were you. Maybe PM the community manager, or Hazel-Rah. Ask them to think about putting the option to either limit, or completely remove drugs from normal battles. Bombard them with good reasons. If you give enough proof that it should be implemented, they'll probably listen.

 

As for you guys who are replying to my posts, we hold very similar views, so I won't even answer you. I think we all agree that the only true druggers are buyers, and that buyers are nearly always OP. You don't need to convince me that drugging is OP, or that it unbalances the game, so don't even waste you breath ;).

^This is a well thought post.Someone give that guy a cookie.

[KillerGnat 3,135]

^This is a well thought post.Someone give that guy a cookie.

Plez, we're out of chocolate in our house. give me a chocolate chip cookie. I'm begging you....

[TG159 734]

Plez, we're out of chocolate in our house. give me a chocolate chip cookie. I'm begging you....

*gives oatmeal cookie without any chocolate chips*

[WoShiNewbie 55]

Drugs suck. Lost 10 times in a row because of this. Even at this small rank.

[KillerGnat 3,135]

*gives oatmeal cookie without any chocolate chips*

*slinks into corner to plot revenge*

*stomach grumbles*

*runs and grabs oatmeal cookie*

 

 

[KillerGnat 3,135]

Drugs suck. Lost 10 times in a row because of this. Even at this small rank.

I suck....

blood. no seriously, I do :P.

 

Of course I didn't reply just to brag about the fact that gnats are soooo much greater than other things (although they are). I just wanna say that it only gets worse from your rank. Don't lose hope though. Save you drugs, don't counter-drug, and do your missions. You'll soon be able to buy a kit, and wreck the supply kit buyers.

 

[MrsTankBuster2 141]

Kk, then why don't we do that. The main reason I began posting here was because I saw almost nothing that was actually helpful here, and wanted to change that.

 

Let's face it, many of the posts are one person telling a story about how his/her game was ruined by a drugger, that post gets a bunch of upvotes from the main people in the topic, one of the frequent posters says something about how drugging is causing massive imbalance, and how they should be nerfed (without actually giving any suggestions for it), then an outsider who is for drugs come in and says "Drugs are good the way they are," which gets most of the topic frequenters to come and give their millions of reasons for nerfing drugs (again, without giving any actual ideas). This cycle is then repeated over and over.

 

 

Have you read the summing up on page 71?

 

An awful lot of work has gone into rationally pointing out the problems with the supplies feature as it currently stands.  Added to that is a wealth of suggestions to try to correct some of these issues - without removing drugs and without hitting Tanki financially. If you can think of anything else, please say so.

 

Tanki refuse to entertain any new ideas regarding improving on the imbalances caused by the drug model - so things are at stalemate.

 

Although things are at a stalemate, that doesn't stop people from still feeling unhappy and frustrated at the lack quality, similarly-matched, gameplay available. And by quality I don't mean 'Pro', I just mean fair from start to finish.

 

Battles often become lop-sided quickly in this game, and at the moment Tanki's only answer is to end the battle early. I think if games were more balanced, more people would have a good time - even if they lost - and less people would be angry/upset, curse or leave battles.

 

In real life, if something is unfair, e.g. women not having the vote in the UK in the past, people don't give up and shut up when told 'no' you cannot vote.  They keep pointing out the same unfairness until the day something changes.

[RustyNail 1,538]

AlphaNinjaGirl,if you are gonna stay a non-drugger/anti-drugger you might as well as save up for m2 hornet+m2 rail+fracture paint for a format called XP/BP. 95% of XP/BP battles are drug free on RU1. So,if I were you I would stop ranting and go to polygon cp and ATLEAST attempt to earn the crystals for the format.

And what if she doesn't like XP/BP at all? What if she also doesn't like Sandbox at all?

From the moment Tanki enhanced medium and heave hulls with extra armor (because most people liked hornet and wasps and few heavy tanks were in the battles) they intend to drive players into liking one thing or disliking another. But that is not a good professional attitude.

As if you go into a store that sells candies and you ask for a certain candy, but the salesman insists that instead you must try another candy... not because he doesn't have the first, but because they have more of the second in stock.

So, please understand, there are people that don't like XP/BP. There are people that like big maps, suitable for fast vehicles and long range weapons.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Kk, then why don't we do that. The main reason I began posting here was because I saw almost nothing that was actually helpful here, and wanted to change that.

 

Let's face it, many of the posts are one person telling a story about how his/her game was ruined by a drugger, that post gets a bunch of upvotes from the main people in the topic, one of the frequent posters says something about how drugging is causing massive imbalance, and how they should be nerfed (without actually giving any suggestions for it), then an outsider who is for drugs come in and says "Drugs are good the way they are," which gets most of the topic frequenters to come and give their millions of reasons for nerfing drugs (again, without giving any actual ideas). This cycle is then repeated over and over.

 

Tbh, as an outsider non-drugger who is not against drugs, it seems kinda pathetic the way you're doing it. If you did more discussion on how to nerf drugs, then maybe you'd have more people coming to your topic. As it is, this topic sorta has a reputation of being a rant topic in the forum. You've said exactly the same things over and ever since the beginning of this topic. Imho, I would act if I were you. Maybe PM the community manager, or Hazel-Rah. Ask them to think about putting the option to either limit, or completely remove drugs from normal battles. Bombard them with good reasons. If you give enough proof that it should be implemented, they'll probably listen.

 

As for you guys who are replying to my posts, we hold very similar views, so I won't even answer you. I think we all agree that the only true druggers are buyers, and that buyers are nearly always OP. You don't need to convince me that drugging is OP, or that it unbalances the game, so don't even waste you breath ;).

Truly said.

But that is so during the latest pages. In fact, the valuable stuff of this topic is on page 71, where all the data, suggestions and possible solutions stated so far were gathered and exposed clearly and in a methodical way.

It is also true that the person to have first presented a capture of players drugging was me. It may be funny, but there were players - not long ago - that insisted that after SCD a player couldn't have activated all three supplies at once, just because Tanki said so.

So, I provided footage of players with multiple supplies on.

From that point it's not a big distance for this topic becoming a ranting topic. It is true that some players - including me - expressed their frustration here, naming certain other players that were drugging.

Understandable as it is, it may have been gotten too far. During the last few pages many times over what was happening was what you wrote: onle player insisting that drugging spoils the game, another player insisting that drugging is ok, and so long and so forth.

This might have to stop.

But let the players that support free drugging be aware of the real arguments on page 71 and answer - if they can - to those arguments.

[Indra_Otsutsuki 329]

And what if she doesn't like XP/BP at all? What if she also doesn't like Sandbox at all?

From the moment Tanki enhanced medium and heave hulls with extra armor (because most people liked hornet and wasps and few heavy tanks were in the battles) they intend to drive players into liking one thing or disliking another. But that is not a good professional attitude.

As if you go into a store that sells candies and you ask for a certain candy, but the salesman insists that instead you must try another candy... not because he doesn't have the first, but because they have more of the second in stock.

So, please understand, there are people that don't like XP/BP. There are people that like big maps, suitable for fast vehicles and long range weapons.

I checked her profile before saying that and it turned out that she like XP alot.

[Kid95 67]

Read posts k, someone pints out my DL is 1.03 and I was saying it no matter, thanks for Proving my point.

Proving your point? What part of my post proves your point? That's some weak defense man.

 

Kk, then why don't we do that. The main reason I began posting here was because I saw almost nothing that was actually helpful here, and wanted to change that.

 

Let's face it, many of the posts are one person telling a story about how his/her game was ruined by a drugger, that post gets a bunch of upvotes from the main people in the topic, one of the frequent posters says something about how drugging is causing massive imbalance, and how they should be nerfed (without actually giving any suggestions for it), then an outsider who is for drugs come in and says "Drugs are good the way they are," which gets most of the topic frequenters to come and give their millions of reasons for nerfing drugs (again, without giving any actual ideas). This cycle is then repeated over and over.

 

Tbh, as an outsider non-drugger who is not against drugs, it seems kinda pathetic the way you're doing it. If you did more discussion on how to nerf drugs, then maybe you'd have more people coming to your topic. As it is, this topic sorta has a reputation of being a rant topic in the forum. You've said exactly the same things over and ever since the beginning of this topic. Imho, I would act if I were you. Maybe PM the community manager, or Hazel-Rah. Ask them to think about putting the option to either limit, or completely remove drugs from normal battles. Bombard them with good reasons. If you give enough proof that it should be implemented, they'll probably listen.

 

As for you guys who are replying to my posts, we hold very similar views, so I won't even answer you. I think we all agree that the only true druggers are buyers, and that buyers are nearly always OP. You don't need to convince me that drugging is OP, or that it unbalances the game, so don't even waste you breath ;).

You've got a really open mind and I appreciate that. And to an extent you are right, but only to that extent

[RustyNail 1,538]

That, for instanse,

 

 

can't count as balanced battle.

It's an obvious abuse of supplies.

(Tanki does nothing about it just because it means money to them)

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

AlphaNinjaGirl,if you are gonna stay a non-drugger/anti-drugger you might as well as save up for m2 hornet+m2 rail+fracture paint for a format called XP/BP. 95% of XP/BP battles are drug free on RU1. So,if I were you I would stop ranting and go to polygon cp and ATLEAST attempt to earn the crystals for the format.

Ah, no? I can stay a non-drugger/anti-drugger without playing XP/BP. I've been playing the game for a couple of years before XP/BP even existed, and I'm still against drugs. I don't see how you thought your argument could hold water... let alone any truth.

 

95%, huh? I'm glad you showed how much extensive research you obviously completed before showing this statistic, it really makes me trust you. Seriously though, most PRO battles are either parkour or have random settings like 999 flags, which is stupid. Not to mention that at my rank, there are barely any PRO battles to begin with.

 

Are you suggesting that I'm not even trying to play the game, and am instead spending all my time "ranting" in the forum? How old are you? And how old do you think I am? More importantly -- are you a sentient creature? Please answer, I really want to know...

[Indra_Otsutsuki 329]

Ah, no? I can stay a non-drugger/anti-drugger without playing XP/BP. I've been playing the game for a couple of years before XP/BP even existed, and I'm still against drugs. I don't see how you thought your argument could hold water... let alone any truth.

 

95%, huh? I'm glad you showed how much extensive research you obviously completed before showing this statistic, it really makes me trust you. Seriously though, most PRO battles are either parkour or have random settings like 999 flags, which is stupid. Not to mention that at my rank, there are barely any PRO battles to begin with.

 

Are you suggesting that I'm not even trying to play the game, and am instead spending all my time "ranting" in the forum? How old are you? And how old do you think I am? More importantly -- are you a sentient creature? Please answer, I really want to know...

Forget I ever met you,noob.

[TG159 734]

And what if she doesn't like XP/BP at all? What if she also doesn't like Sandbox at all?

From the moment Tanki enhanced medium and heave hulls with extra armor (because most people liked hornet and wasps and few heavy tanks were in the battles) they intend to drive players into liking one thing or disliking another. But that is not a good professional attitude.

As if you go into a store that sells candies and you ask for a certain candy, but the salesman insists that instead you must try another candy... not because he doesn't have the first, but because they have more of the second in stock.

So, please understand, there are people that don't like XP/BP. There are people that like big maps, suitable for fast vehicles and long range weapons.

Sandbox is less than half the XP/BP battles I see...

[TG159 734]

Ah, no? I can stay a non-drugger/anti-drugger without playing XP/BP. I've been playing the game for a couple of years before XP/BP even existed, and I'm still against drugs. I don't see how you thought your argument could hold water... let alone any truth.

 

95%, huh? I'm glad you showed how much extensive research you obviously completed before showing this statistic, it really makes me trust you. Seriously though, most PRO battles are either parkour or have random settings like 999 flags, which is stupid. Not to mention that at my rank, there are barely any PRO battles to begin with.

 

Are you suggesting that I'm not even trying to play the game, and am instead spending all my time "ranting" in the forum? How old are you? And how old do you think I am? More importantly -- are you a sentient creature? Please answer, I really want to know...

Wait... People played XP/BP in 2013...

[TG159 734]

Fogofwar blindly said:

 

You suck, maybe a little less than others, but you still suck, and that's just life, pee wee, so kit up, drug up, and go play your stupid 2, 3, 4 battles and know that if I ever find you in a fight, I'll do all I can to make it a point of making an example out of you because you're nothing but a prissy little whiner that rail snipes behind walls with DA and DD on, and even THEN, you're pathetic in stats, all that game play and you have a

 

K/D = 1.03.

 

i kind of understand how your small heads (yes, u offend me i return favour k :) D/L mean nothing so stfu) can complain about buyers. and yes, dont say u dont cuz i know u do. 

 

 

read again.

  

Proving your point? What part of my post proves your point? That's some weak defense man.

 

 

You've got a really open mind and I appreciate that. And to an extent you are right, but only to that extent

[TG159 734]

Ah, no? I can stay a non-drugger/anti-drugger without playing XP/BP. I've been playing the game for a couple of years before XP/BP even existed, and I'm still against drugs. I don't see how you thought your argument could hold water... let alone any truth.

 

95%, huh? I'm glad you showed how much extensive research you obviously completed before showing this statistic, it really makes me trust you. Seriously though, most PRO battles are either parkour or have random settings like 999 flags, which is stupid. Not to mention that at my rank, there are barely any PRO battles to begin with.

 

Are you suggesting that I'm not even trying to play the game, and am instead spending all my time "ranting" in the forum? How old are you? And how old do you think I am? More importantly -- are you a sentient creature? Please answer, I really want to know...

Ya, just get to major fast instead of ranting and enjoy millions of pro battles.

[KrystenHunt16 128]

Forget I ever met you,noob.

This. This is the maximum level of intelligence of the arrogant slimewad belly-licker that is Tanki's average drugger. Instead of backing up arguments with, y'know, research and facts, they resort to calling others "noobs", and saying we should "stop whining".

 

Sadly, there are all too many players like these, and all of us decent, ethical players have to wade through the bleating sheep to find a half-decent battle. This is why the game is dying.

[TG159 734]

This. This is the maximum level of intelligence of the arrogant slimewad belly-licker that is Tanki's average drugger. Instead of backing up arguments with, y'know, research and facts, they resort to calling others "noobs", and saying we should "stop whining".

 

Sadly, there are all too many players like these, and all of us decent, ethical players have to wade through the bleating sheep to find a half-decent battle. This is why the game is dying.

Then quit the game if it's no fun for you.

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

Play a PRO battle. No drugs allowed.

If you not got good garage,got XP/BP on RU1

low rank players rarely have good garage unless they buyers 

[Indra_Otsutsuki 329]

This. This is the maximum level of intelligence of the arrogant slimewad belly-licker that is Tanki's average drugger. Instead of backing up arguments with, y'know, research and facts, they resort to calling others "noobs", and saying we should "stop whining".

 

Sadly, there are all too many players like these, and all of us decent, ethical players have to wade through the bleating sheep to find a half-decent battle. This is why the game is dying.

Not my max intelligence,I just simply don't have the stamina to argue.Whether its a real life argument with my siblings or a online argument with you guys I choose to end it ASAP.If you are truly smarter than "us druggers" than this problem should have been solved a long,long,long time ago.

Me,and who-knows-how-many players have suggested this to you guys:

 

Then quit the game if it's no fun for you.

Now you guys figure out a solution for yourselves,make some sort of club or organization against this problem and bombard Hazel-Rah with your PMs or whatever you think is right but I am not gonna care anymore.

Peace Out

[Brubook 1,161]

Ya, just get to major fast instead of ranting and enjoy millions of pro battles.

Major .... millions pro battles ... uhm

 

At that rank you can join pro battles just because it is the default lower limit from gismo. So you actually face mostly gismos ... and you consider that fair and balanced ... wow!

Also, till brigadier, you cannot even have any M3 combo (considering silly kits anticipated equipment availability). Again, you play with an M2 against experienced gismos ... fair, ah? Very balanced!

 

About the millions ... try to take out the absurd ones (999 minutes or flags, etc.), take out the parkour, not mentioning that you might not like XP/BP ... and not mentioning that you might like one or two specific maps ... what is left? Have a look!

 

Instead of talking nonsenses and tell us we "rant", try to think about the reasons of situations!

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Then quit the game if it's no fun for you.

Wonder whom of you druggers would have fun, if _all_ non druggers leave :P

I would really like to know that.

 

Tanki is in the unique position to have a game, that is by it's gameplay soo attractive and addictive, that even such bad concepts like unbalanced drugs are accepted. This game must be a pure cash cow, if they would set it up in a way, that gives more fun to a higher share of it's players..