Reduce power of garage supplies

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

Wow... anti druggers are one of the worst players in manners

In game chat, or forum?

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

All..... i think life

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

So, since you brought this EXTREMELY COGENT point to our discussion, I'll take you up on this.

 

Let's do the "math", shall we?

 

Players complained about Ricos not being powerful enough anymore, they added range, Smokys were to blah, they tweaked them.  A number of turrets have had NUMEROUS changes made to them, ALL at the behest of their users complaining.

 

I disagree. IMO, Tanki devs tweak and rebalance for cash reasons and no other.  They'll buff something knowing that players will flock to it, buy it and max it out, only to nerf it later. They also know there will be complaints but they're willing to take them on the chin as they already have the money by then in their account. It's always been about money and the pretense is always balance. TO might hear us but they hardly ever listen and acting on our requests is rarer still.

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

 

FogOfWar_XXX, I certainly agree with you, with what they did to shaft, it was not only adding the Lazer.  They also at the same time, modified some maps to make it impossible for shaft, such as blocking off certain runs along walls and removing shrubbery etc.  It was a pointed attack by a prejudiced hand.  Some people have the ear of the Developers and others do not.  Their is or was, a bit of a clique running within the game.  As you say at the same time other weapons had improvements, smokey for example and othe turrets introduced.  Vulcan can camp hit out at short, long and medium range.  Smoky often hides and snipes at medium or even long ranges, it is invisible in the same way that shaft was.  Yet it was this very invisible snipping was one of the very complaints about shaft, hypercritical or what.  They say that it is to prevent advantage.  What advantage does or did shaft have.  They seem very content to give the likes of Smokey, Vulcan and Hammer huge and unequaled advantage.

 

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

All..... i think life

I'll speak to that.

 

You are RIGHT, in life.  We are the players that equate the situation of the game to an expression of genuine self.  We are the one's that play hard, work hard, and in the end, we might be "friends", but my a** is here to kill you, and I want you dead, and just like in real life, I hard work to get my end goal.  It is a reflection of our reality, we take our play time as serious as our work time.  Character, sense of dignity, sense of pride.

 

I loathe people like the super druggers, in game, and IRL.  They are the slackers, they are the jerks at the bar with their iPhones out while playing NTN.  They are the periwinkle snickering wimps and losers that hang back quietly till all offenders are gone and then brag openly about how snide and clever they are.  Nothing matters, nothing is that important in life.

 

We, and I assume I might be painting a wide brush here, and if you don't feel like you are part of this group, tell him, or just let it ride, ACTUALLY care, and things DO matter, and time spent doing things is of value.  Druggers listen to Happy Hardcore Remixes of rave music, purists and hardcore non drug players listen to Nitzerebb or Rammstein.  Druggers are all this and non druggers are all this. Druggers are products of a life of unreasonable expectations and no expectation to live up to.  Non druggers are traditional, old fashion, nose to the grind stone types.  We get mad, get get into fights, we think that killing an enemy is an answer, even if albeit the last and worst, it's mind set of who is right, wrong, and no in betweens.  It's not "you're okay, I'm okay", it's who rules who, who is right, who is wrong, I win, you lose, fight to the death (not fight to the exhaustion of supplies).

 

Here we can hate, destroy kill, express those values in a place where it is acceptable, and ostensibly permitted.  Shoot and kill enemies, dehumanize and tear down, make real the manifest of the mind that which is reality, in a way that spares others the tragedy of it.  Mankind is lucky to have evolved with such coping capacities, ie, games.  It's meaningful, it's not just a video game, it's a reflection of self.  I don't want to think I'm playing a "e sport", I want to emulate the notion of firing a high velocity round into the protective tracked vehicle of my enemy and imagining that I have have vanquished them, left their families in tears, their children destitute, their nations ruined, all for the betterment of my own life, family, nation.  It's NOT about fun, it's about expression, what is fun is successfully expressing one's self.  All this hateful talk is of course having you scratch your head, but yo usee, and no mater what I say, you will never comprehend I think . . .

 

Games reflect life, life has winners and losers, we play by the rules and we try to survive or thrive, and certainly not die.  Life has not pill packets for DD, DA, DS, RK.  I want to play on a even field of capacity and knowledge, and crush my enemies into the ground and make them feel badly on themselves and their persons about their lack of ability to do better.  I want to KILL my enemy.  Death to my enemy.  The end of my enemy.  I can do that here, and then go to bed, wake up in the morning, and not have my house surrounded by cops ready to haul me off to death row.  Winning in combat games means winning your expression of aggression.  You have "killed".  NOTHING is more infuriating than a bunch of slouches pressing buttons to increase their ability to perform in something that would otherwise be a fixed environment with very predictable outcomes, given a successful course of action.

 

I'm busy today, so I don't have to time to proof this.  It's spiteful, vengeful, hateful, loathing, dripping with animosity, and probably the rawest and truest sentiment imaginable underlying that majority of us posters in here, in this forum.  A complete disgust and despise for druggers and the ideal and lifestyle and way of life enshrined in this way of being in life.  Hope it didn't come across as too mean, but if it did, I meant it then.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Quite some battle variety on RU1 today! :D

 

 

 

 

[The-Operator219 1,929]

get out of here....... they both give 100%

To my knowledge DD gives you exactly double the attack power, and health kit gives you the power of a phoenix.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Quite some battle variety on RU1 today! :D

 

 

 

 

Hey, they got Monte Carlo, Sandbox, AND Silence...

Too bad I've got zero interest in XP/BP.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Im on phone and its difficult to edit and add all the spoiler things. Im not lazy, I Just dont know how.

This is for the following message

I'll speak to that.

 

You are RIGHT, in life. We are the players that equate the situation of the game to an expression of genuine self. We are the one's that play hard, work hard, and in the end, we might be "friends", but my a** is here to kill you, and I want you dead, and just like in real life, I hard work to get my end goal. It is a reflection of our reality, we take our play time as serious as our work time. Character, sense of dignity, sense of pride.

 

I loathe people like the super druggers, in game, and IRL. They are the slackers, they are the jerks at the bar with their iPhones out while playing NTN. They are the periwinkle snickering wimps and losers that hang back quietly till all offenders are gone and then brag openly about how snide and clever they are. Nothing matters, nothing is that important in life.

 

We, and I assume I might be painting a wide brush here, and if you don't feel like you are part of this group, tell him, or just let it ride, ACTUALLY care, and things DO matter, and time spent doing things is of value. Druggers listen to Happy Hardcore Remixes of rave music, purists and hardcore non drug players listen to Nitzerebb or Rammstein. Druggers are all this and non druggers are all this. Druggers are products of a life of unreasonable expectations and no expectation to live up to. Non druggers are traditional, old fashion, nose to the grind stone types. We get mad, get get into fights, we think that killing an enemy is an answer, even if albeit the last and worst, it's mind set of who is right, wrong, and no in betweens. It's not "you're okay, I'm okay", it's who rules who, who is right, who is wrong, I win, you lose, fight to the death (not fight to the exhaustion of supplies).

 

Here we can hate, destroy kill, express those values in a place where it is acceptable, and ostensibly permitted. Shoot and kill enemies, dehumanize and tear down, make real the manifest of the mind that which is reality, in a way that spares others the tragedy of it. Mankind is lucky to have evolved with such coping capacities, ie, games. It's meaningful, it's not just a video game, it's a reflection of self. I don't want to think I'm playing a "e sport", I want to emulate the notion of firing a high velocity round into the protective tracked vehicle of my enemy and imagining that I have have vanquished them, left their families in tears, their children destitute, their nations ruined, all for the betterment of my own life, family, nation. It's NOT about fun, it's about expression, what is fun is successfully expressing one's self. All this hateful talk is of course having you scratch your head, but yo usee, and no mater what I say, you will never comprehend I think . . .

 

Games reflect life, life has winners and losers, we play by the rules and we try to survive or thrive, and certainly not die. Life has not pill packets for DD, DA, DS, RK. I want to play on a even field of capacity and knowledge, and crush my enemies into the ground and make them feel badly on themselves and their persons about their lack of ability to do better. I want to KILL my enemy. Death to my enemy. The end of my enemy. I can do that here, and then go to bed, wake up in the morning, and not have my house surrounded by cops ready to haul me off to death row. Winning in combat games means winning your expression of aggression. You have "killed". NOTHING is more infuriating than a bunch of slouches pressing buttons to increase their ability to perform in something that would otherwise be a fixed environment with very predictable outcomes, given a successful course of action.

 

I'm busy today, so I don't have to time to proof this. It's spiteful, vengeful, hateful, loathing, dripping with animosity, and probably the rawest and truest sentiment imaginable underlying that majority of us posters in here, in this forum. A complete disgust and despise for druggers and the ideal and lifestyle and way of life enshrined in this way of being in life. Hope it didn't come across as too mean, but if it did, I meant it then.

 

This is where you are a bit mixed.

Ive listened to that exact you tube Music "for druggers" and thats my favorite music along with classical music and orchestra. Though I hate sitting around...

I want to change the world, I want to advance the space program and be my country's biggest architect. Im 19 and have done 2 years of interior design and 1 year university for math and physics with a grade average of 99.

I am currently in my country's mandetory military service as a radio technician. I did a 4 month course and came out the most outstanding student ever in that course's history in terms of grade, motivation, and social aspirings.

I live in an inovative country.

How do you see me being knowing the above and drugger

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

Im on phone and its difficult to edit and add all the spoiler things. Im not lazy, I Just dont know how.

This is for the following message

This is where you are a bit mixed.

Ive listened to that exact you tube Music "for druggers" and thats my favorite music along with classical music and orchestra. Though I hate sitting around...

I want to change the world, I want to advance the space program and be my country's biggest architect. Im 19 and have done 2 years of interior design and 1 year university for math and physics with a grade average of 99.

I am currently in my country's mandetory military service as a radio technician. I did a 4 month course and came out the most outstanding student ever in that course's history in terms of grade, motivation, and social aspirings.

I live in an inovative country.

How do you see me being knowing the above and drugger

"I want to change the world, I want to advance the space program and be my country's biggest architect"

 

Idealist, not fighter.

 

"I am currently in my country's mandatory military service"

 

Not fighter, radio operator.

 

"I live in an innovative country."

 

Read we think we're special, and we are "progressive".

 

 - - - -

 

Add that all up and what do you get?  Just another person that doesn't see life realistically and has no sense of grit.  I spoke to you of combat, of expression of sense of self, of imposition of will of a belief by a tried and trued method, fighting, killing, vanquishing enemies, and the best you can do is tell me your an idealist that wants to change the world and be a great architect.  Leave the pretenses at the door when you come to FIGHT.  This is what is wrong in the world today.  Everything is "okay", everything is "look forward, not back", no reflection, no consideration, no remorse or regret or consequence.  You think that because you're top of your class you are suddenly special.  Funny thing is, a lot of your peers that aren't as talented as you feel the same way.  "I'm sure it can't be that hard."  "Lets turn fighting into a game, but lets take the mean, nasty spirited nature of fighting out of it, we can all get along."

 

Damn it, when two fighter enter a ring, even if they are best friends outside of it, in there, they try to hurt each other, period.  All this "oh, I lost because I ran out of supplies,"  is simply an extension of of societies way of deflecting owning your short comings in life by allowing you to rely on things not within the purview of your abilities alone.  "I didn't DA in time."  "I didn't have DD on because I had to wait for the cool down."  This releases players from the sense of being able to:

 

1.  Call out the loser

2.  The loser can always rest assured that it's not really about them, it's just a game, without consequence because the method of play is intrinsically setup to not require too much ownership skills, ability, and practice.

 

So how do I see you as the above?  Simple.  You are a product of a new generation of people that DO NOT value the reality of the nature of loss and winning.  You expect human nature to conform and try to flow like water rather than crush like stone or consume like fire.  The analogies are endless, but, in the end, the simple explanation is that you believe in something that is incomplete, for you have ideals, but no conflicts, and in that, is your weakness, and so many others.  Those that would rather fight the honest fight, rather than capitulate are those that ultimately succeed, so while this is a thread about drugs and tanki, you would do well to consider that, young 19 year old male, and not let all those talents go to waste on pipe dreams that are never fully vetted against a harsh back drop of reality.  I said it here before, life is unfair, we play games to create some parity in which we can emulate certain aspects of life, and this is now something that reflects a foul consumption of resources rather than a test of talents.

 

I'm done for the day.

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

Why so much hate about drugs ? It's actually an efficient way to challenge yourself and your friends...

 

 

Can I just say this, without you flying off the handle about how drugs are divination and that non-druggers are the devil?

 

At around 10:00 in your video, you started camping behind the ramp and barricade on the opposing team's side and began spawn-killing. This is interesting to me since that used to be my strategy for Monte Carlo back in my drugging days (except I'd play as Isida and just lay tons of mines).

 

Here's my question though -- does that make the battle seem fair? On a map with limited supplies, limited cover, and very separate sides, is it "balanced" to have one guy sitting in enemy turf and constantly spawn-killing everyone? Even if the opposing team was made of druggers, they wouldn't have time to activate enough drugs to counter.

 

And I know what you're thinking. "Oh, but everyone can use drugs, so they should be able to make a push and kill me". Bull. Even as a WO5 playing against Captains and Majors, I was able to hold out easier than easy, simply because I could spawn-kill and they could do literally nothing to stop me.

 

That's not called "being a smart player", that's called "abusing a game mechanic to drastically shift the natural balance of the game". And as far as I know, the people who usually camp back there are complete [woops]. It's a blatant lack of sportsmanship.

 

And quite frankly, the way you've been talking here -- acting superior to other players, degrading non-druggers because they don't hold to your doctrines, and belittling the Go-Pro club (a club, mind you, that literally doesn't affect you in any freaking way) -- shows what kind of person you are. No wonder people are getting mad at you.

 

That's all I have to say. Peace out. ;)

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

You know something's wrong when you see this

 

 

 

 

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

"I want to change the world, I want to advance the space program and be my country's biggest architect"

 

Idealist, not fighter.

 

"I am currently in my country's mandatory military service"

 

Not fighter, radio operator.

 

"I live in an innovative country."

 

Read we think we're special, and we are "progressive".

 

 - - - -

 

Add that all up and what do you get?  Just another person that doesn't see life realistically and has no sense of grit. 

Wow, so many insults from you today.

Too much hate, anger and hostility.

Tanki online is not life, it's an online game and I think you've lost site of that.

 

It's only natural to get upset when you can't compete and your side is always losing and you start to blame tanki, druggers, buyers etc. You can't change the current format so maybe you should try adapting to it and if that means using supplies or spending some cash then you should do that. The alternative is to hunker down and persevere or play the battles where supplies and micro-upgrades do not exist. Sounds like you have some choices to make.

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

​I took the time to write an elaborated reply and nobody commented my solutions to improve your Tanki experience. Instead, you all only focus on material you can moan about. You call it complaining, I call it light trolling. You gu​​ys don't understand that drug kits are the best sellers of Tanki and will never be removed because it's the best way for the CEO to earn money easily. Most of you - me including - are free users and yet you complain as if you were dissatisfied customers. Allo ? Wake up people, you're allowed - and right - to share your thoughts and experiences, but at some point you don't deserve the right to be so vehement given that you're enjoying Tanki ice creams for free.

 

Once and for all, Tanki is a free-to-play and you, free users, can play thanks to buyers

So, in your opinion, Tanki's free-to-players should be thanking you buyers for allowing us to play a game in which buyers nearly exclusively dominate free-to-players?

 

If you'd look at your words for longer than 0 seconds, you'd probably see why this is bull.

[deadmanrising 715]

Why so much hate about drugs ? It's actually an efficient way to challenge yourself and your friends...

 

You do have to admit that the game does have some problems with its balance, and supplies contributes to that problem, otherwise this topic wouldn't exist, but what i find ironic is that not many people have complained about drugs until after the smart cooldowns update was released as well as the amount of kits being sold that creates further imbalance

 

​

 

 

I took the time to write an elaborated reply and nobody commented my solutions to improve your Tanki experience. Instead, you all only focus on material you can moan about. You call it complaining, I call it light trolling. You gu​​ys don't understand that drug kits are the best sellers of Tanki and will never be removed because it's the best way for the CEO to earn money easily. Most of you - me including - are free users and yet you complain as if you were dissatisfied customers. Allo ? Wake up people, you're allowed - and right - to share your thoughts and experiences, but at some point you don't deserve the right to be so vehement given that you're enjoying Tanki ice creams for free.

 

Once and for all, Tanki is a free-to-play and you, free users, can play thanks to buyers

I've explained earlier on that we simply don't have access to those statistics on which virtual items in the game contribute to the amount of revenue the company makes, if you look at the garage, you will see that supplies does not make up a significant value in comparison to the other items in the garage, for instance buying 20,000 supplies of each doesn't even make up 50% of a full garage and we're not even talking about m4's yet. Your view that supply users keeping the game open is inconsistent, because the majority of tankers (which are likely to spend only a certain proportion of their money on the game) are unlikely to spend over 40% maximum of their crystals on supplies, since that is the case, and since the fewer population of tankers are likely to spend a significant amount of their money on the game and on supplies, they in fact make up the minority of the game, if one chooses to spend the majority of their crystals on supplies, in order for them to obtain a full garage, or at least decent hulls, paints and turrets, they will need to obtain even more crystals, again these sort of players make up the minority.

 

The game does not in fact, rely on just players who spend a significant amount of money on the game (in total, either over time or as a one off) to sustain revenue. For every new player, or for every player who spends money on the game occasionally, they also in fact make up a significant total of the game's revenue.

 

You're analysis is inconsistent

[deadmanrising 715]

1. Free-to-play games are designed to force free users to invest in it at some point - all the players who took part in this thread reached this point

 

2. Buyers spend money to get advantages over free users - why would they give money away otherwise ?

 

Once you got these two points, you got the origin of the world

The company has plenty of ways to do this, they do not have do this by creating imbalance and forcing players to buy credentials they do not want to use excessively

[RustyNail 1,538]

So, officially 2000mc has turned to the kit of a troll (irrelevant videos, pompous remarks and poor reason) for sabotaging this topic.

 

Why do you show so much hated against us, noobs non druggers? In battle you always rule. You get the most of funds. So what's your problem and stay here repeating that drugging is legal (we know that, thank you very much) and will never be removed? If so, why bother? You will always rule, you will always get the most funds, you will always beat the hell out of us. So why bother? What's eating you? :D

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

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If -> you would use your drugs only against druggers,

then -> noone would complain to you.

and -> you could make use of your drugs against druggers as much as you like

 

And now please don't tell me, it's according to the games rules.. let me give you an example why:

 

 

You know, that your government can change the law to confiscate all your money from your bank account and this would also be legal. They can also change the currency in your country, making your cash money worthless. (let's assume you have enough -or-  too few, that you really feel how it makes you feel robbed by their powers.. I am sure you can feel into that if you like to).

You dont believe it? Well it already happened multiple times in history.. as well as in recent history.

 

So that's also "according to the rules". But as it concerns your own money, you maybe would consider this as un-fair and un-balanced.

 

 

Maybe now you see, that the initial idea of this thread was more about fairness and balance then about whining.

 

If the sentence "accordin to the games rules" is the last resort you can take (for using drugs against non druggers) then you have a pretty poor argument.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

So, officially 2000mc has turned to the kit of a troll (irrelevant videos, pompous remarks and poor reason) for sabotaging this topic.

 

Why do you show so much hated against us, noobs non druggers? In battle you always rule. You get the most of funds. So what's your problem and stay here repeating that drugging is legal (we know that, thank you very much) and will never be removed? If so, why bother? You will always rule, you will always get the most funds, you will always beat the hell out of us. So why bother? What's eating you? :D

I cant beleive your blindness.... what is the difference between anti-druggers and 2000mc?

Anti druggers based on fogofwar play tanki so as to channel their murderous energy into tanki instead of mass homicide.

2000mc enjoys being smart and intelligent and enjoys the abbility to manage his crys and find a very efficent way to battle.... nothing stops you from being like that

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

This is obviously an emotive topic, even so, why do people need to resort to name calling and other forms of denigration.  This applies equally to all sides of the discussion.  It achieves absolutely nothing at all.  It just prompts an even more vociferous response and so on and so on.  Some people with limited resources appear to want only to spend money on kit, that is turrets, hulls, paint and micro upgrades.  I can understand the economy because their is permanency in equipment, once bought allways owned.  That is unless the developers chose to do some sort of degrading modification, such as what happened to shaft.  Supplies/drugs on the other hand are very temporary and need constantly replacing.  Some people spend a lot on supplies and less on equipment improvement and some choose both.   Different groups view the individual supplies differently  Some non users of supplies, use certain supplies that they think OK to use because they do not infringe their particular ethics.  I do presume that they use what they run into on the field.  How is that justified I do not know?  Some non users apparently have situations or excuses when it is perfectly all right for them to use supples or drugs

 

What is the difference in buying a paint or something that has the equivalent defensive effect as say double Armour?  DA 50% paint will last much longer, it only needs replacing with another one to offset a different sort of adversary!  One may be lucky to have 3 different types of adversary that one 50% paint is effective against.  Why do some, that do not want to purchase supplies not want to pay for a pass for the pro games.  They have quite a cheap offer on 28 Euros for 90 days.  That seems exceptional good value.  Of course I saw the very provocatively designed front page of this thread.  

 

I do not mind either way.  They can remove supplies altogether or increase the use of them but I have not seen a convincing argument to remove them.  What would replace them, very expensive 75% paint or exotic MU for the wealthy perhaps.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

If -> you would use your drugs only against druggers,

then -> noone would complain to you.

and -> you could make use of your drugs against druggers as much as you like

 

And now please don't tell me, it's according to the games rules.. let me give you an example why:

 

 

You know, that your government can change the law to confiscate all your money from your bank account and this would also be legal. They can also change the currency in your country, making your cash money worthless. (let's assume you have enough -or- too few, that you really feel how it makes you feel robbed by their powers.. I am sure you can feel into that if you like to).

You dont believe it? Well it already happened multiple times in history.. as well as in recent history.

 

So that's also "according to the rules". But as it concerns your own money, you maybe would consider this as un-fair and un-balanced.

 

 

Maybe now you see, that the initial idea of this thread was more about fairness and balance then about whining.

 

If the sentence "accordin to the games rules" is the last resort you can take (for using drugs against non druggers) then you have a pretty poor argument.

2000mc considers all tankers equal. There is 0 difference between you and him crystal wise..... are you saying hes the king? He rules? Hes above you? What are you saying?

 

Now

 

 

 

Spoiler alert

 

 

[Le_Mans_Racer_FTW 10]

2000mc considers all tankers equal. There is 0 difference between you and him crystal wise..... are you saying hes the king? He rules? Hes above you? What are you saying?

Now

 

 

Spoiler alert

 

 

This post is quite unnecessary, 'm afraid.

 

Frankly, the last half a dozen pages are unnecessary.

[RustyNail 1,538]

This is obviously an emotive topic, even so, why do people need to resort to name calling and other forms of denigration.  This applies equally to all sides of the discussion.  It achieves absolutely nothing at all.  It just prompts an even more vociferous response and so on and so on.  Some people with limited resources appear to want only to spend money on kit, that is turrets, hulls, paint and micro upgrades.  I can understand the economy because their is permanency in equipment, once bought allways owned.  That is unless the developers chose to do some sort of degrading modification, such as what happened to shaft.  Supplies/drugs on the other hand are very temporary and need constantly replacing.  Some people spend a lot on supplies and less on equipment improvement and some choose both.   Different groups view the individual supplies differently  Some non users of supplies, use certain supplies that they think OK to use because they do not infringe their particular ethics.  I do presume that they use what they run into on the field.  How is that justified I do not know?  Some non users apparently have situations or excuses when it is perfectly all right for them to use supples or drugs

 

What is the difference in buying a paint or something that has the equivalent defensive effect as say double Armour?  DA 50% paint will last much longer, it only needs replacing with another one to offset a different sort of adversary!  One may be lucky to have 3 different types of adversary that one 50% paint is effective against.  Why do some, that do not want to purchase supplies not want to pay for a pass for the pro games.  They have quite a cheap offer on 28 Euros for 90 days.  That seems exceptional good value.  Of course I saw the very provocatively designed front page of this thread.  

 

I do not mind either way.  They can remove supplies altogether or increase the use of them but I have not seen a convincing argument to remove them.  What would replace them, very expensive 75% paint or exotic MU for the wealthy perhaps.

So, out of 280 pages is that you understand? That we want to remove the supplies? :mellow:

[I.ToTaLWar 7]

This topic started by addressing some real problems about tanki and offered some solutions for the devs

Then there solutions were not accepted,then some tankers on this topic started advocating playing pro battle 

On ru2 when that failed to reach a critical mass (pro battles existed on ru2 before the initiative )  of acceptance,

Then some posters here whom i respect started posting pictures of tankers who where using drugs which

Amounted to really ridicule and a sort of cyber bullying so it isn't a surprise that some of those tankers whose

Pics where posted came to clear things out and some even bulling just as they were bullied here before (by posting there pics).

 

I totally support the original premise of the topic where drugs mechanics needs to be reworked but this attack on

Druggers will only invite enmity from other tankers and the devs can sit back and laugh at us while we smear 

Each other.

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

So, out of 280 pages is that you understand? That we want to remove the supplies? :mellow:

If people kept to the point, if they reneged from posts full of rhetoric and abuse, from posting boring video evidence of former friends miss deeds.  Then it would be far easier to see the wood for the trees so to speak.  I believe that your supposition is overly simplistic.  Their are many views expressed here on all sides and few agree entirely with anyone else.  I believe that people have a lot of self interest in what ever they propose or defend.  It is either to negate what they see as someone else advantage and to promote their own advantage at a no financial costs or implications to them selves.