Reduce power of garage supplies

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

Lol, no I was just askin' the non-buyers and non-druggers because I have seen more than some hate for Druggers hhhhhh.

And rightly so. A lot of players don't buy or drug (for various reasons). And they dislike anyone who can rampage over all of them simply because they have rich parents.

[Total_SkiIl 1,983]

And rightly so. A lot of players don't buy or drug (for various reasons). And they dislike anyone who can rampage over all of them simply because they have rich parents.

Well they do because not that they have rich parents, instead 'cause of their nonsense and being nub all the time and not saving for kits.

[basenji7 1,199]

Alright, sure, whatever. You say you don't buy. Fine.

 

Was your point to ramble on endlessly like an insecure child?

No, I assume his point was to show that it is possible to have a very OP account without buying anything. 

 

And rightly so. A lot of players don't buy or drug (for various reasons). And they dislike anyone who can rampage over all of them simply because they have rich parents.

Well they do because not that they have rich parents, instead 'cause of their nonsense and being nub all the time and not saving for kits.

+ player

 

AlphaNinjaGirl: FIrst, not everyone who has rich parents is a buyer, and not everyone who is a buyer has rich parents. I've seen you use that phrase many many times and honestly it's not a big deal, I just wanted to get that out of the way - it's not necessary to assume a spoiled, rich brat out of every buyer. Second, a lot of players hate on anyone who can rampage all over them because they have skill, or people who drug back when they themselves are drugging. Just because a lot of players dislike something doesn't make them correct, especially since many people don't seem to be able to think very well. 

 

It's possible, as player has shown, to be OP without buying, yet people will assume them to be buyers. Buyers probably do have too much power in this game, but it isn't unmanageable, as you have been making it out. Saving for good equipment, having skill, and winning contests allow non-buyers to counter buyers. 

 

Player: Some buyers are actually skilled though and then they beat everyone.

[Total_SkiIl 1,983]

Ik, some but I ain't saying that. I totally meant you can rek them to dust if you just practice how to counter a drugging M3 or M2. Just take a heads on and have their health to almost 0 they activate repair boom. Your team will not have to worry as he'll not have his repair on :3. 

My main intention by making this account was to try and get a quite op garage. Biggest tip I can give to non-druggers is that if you wanna be a drugger, just play 1 match and try to complete atleast 1 Crystal mission or all of the missions in that battle drug for that. You'll regain your stuff soon at higher ranks it'll be damn soon to get that back. If you have like 200-400 by saving drugs or buying kits, this will be quite effective as at end of the week. Your used drug count won't be too much high if you don't play noise but other maps which don't require 1 repair = 1 cap.

 

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

Well they do because not that they have rich parents, instead 'cause of their nonsense and being nub all the time and not saving for kits.

AlphaNinjaGirl: FIrst, not everyone who has rich parents is a buyer, and not everyone who is a buyer has rich parents. I've seen you use that phrase many many times and honestly it's not a big deal, I just wanted to get that out of the way - it's not necessary to assume a spoiled, rich brat out of every buyer.

Oh my gosh... it's a figure of speech guys!  :lol:

 

Ik, some but I ain't saying that. I totally meant you can rek them to dust if you just practice how to counter a drugging M3 or M2. Just take a heads on and have their health to almost 0 they activate repair boom. Your team will not have to worry as he'll not have his repair on :3.

Yeah, uh... what happens if he's already drugged with DD and DA, and then uses Repair Kit after swatting you like a mosquito?  :P

 

 

Biggest tip I can give to non-druggers is that if you wanna be a drugger, just play 1 match and try to complete atleast 1 Crystal mission or all of the missions in that battle drug for that. You'll regain your stuff soon at higher ranks it'll be damn soon to get that back.

So your advice is... "don't play the game too much"?

 

How about people who play this game for fun? You know, because it's a game?  :rolleyes:

[Total_SkiIl 1,983]

You can get a life by that :3. And even with that, you can still stop that guy :3.

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

Well, everyone has a Pro pass now. I do see a rise in No supplies pro battle but when compared to normal battles, it's quote insignificant. Further proves that not many people are actually interested in No Supplies Battles.

 

 

*cough* Or people assume that nobody will join a No Supply battle thanks to people like you telling them otherwise... *cough*

 

*cough* Or not everyone has a PRO pass *cough*

 

*cough* Or people who want No Supply battles don't think that 5000 crystals is a fair price *cough*

 

 

Everyone has premium account and hence pro pass for these few days. So.... -_-

 

So, as stated prior, this page is only for discussion of solutions, thus, I'd be remiss to not point that out and remind everyone, because when ever I come into the fray, jack rears everywhere tell me I can't comment on other things other than s solution, but when druggers feel like it, it seems they can just spew their non-sense here again.  Druggers, you are in a different class as none druggers.  You have no where with all of all the issues related to drug free play.  In order to make my ti-raid work, I'll have to put this like this, as I just said, otherwise I might be off topic.  So lets discuss the solution to point out and then poo poo as useless, as no one plays them.

 

So, these last two days, I took advantage of the free propass to troll endless numbers of players in to a trap.  I created Propass battles for two days straight, and took out the supplies and drops, ZERO drugs.  I'd enter battle, and wait.  Sure enough, a warm body would show up.  Funny thing is, once they saw me or tried to engage, they either get hit by me and disappear, or even before they could get into range with a firebird or other short range platform, they'd disappear.  So, I know why.  Absent mindedly, they'd go hit the 2,3,4 and boom, nothing, oh my.  Life sucks as I blast them to death and they run away like the ******* they are.  Some would try their luck and after the the second kill I had, they would leave.  Eventually, I'd get a map replete with players that STUCK AROUND.  Took a while, sometimes 3 battles, but I'd end up with a game that was pure skill.  There battles were epic, hard won, few flags capped, very cut throat, and some of the best game play I have ever seen, but it took a while for the word to get out.  Eventually the map would empty, people would move on, I would too, and it would take a long time again to fill one.  Few observations here:

 

1.  Druggers ran away (and you claim that many have skills, thus why not try a battle without)

2.  Once the non-druggers came, they stayed for usually at least two battles on the same map

3.  The battle were usually to limit, meaning all slots filled on all teams.

4.  Props to Russians, they have dignity, more of them played the non-drug maps than the English speaking counter parts, for whatever reason, might have been luck or something else, but that's what it was.

5.  Killer Penguin is great in all formats for the record, he could really play non drug and excel, for what that is worth.

 

So, the moral of the story here, when people CAN play non drug, many do, and the issue lies in the inability to announce that.  Like I said, many ran away, I'd be left on a map for minutes at a time, just to have someone show up, once in firing range, simply quit.  Of the ones that tried to give it a go in hopes that their equipment was more than adequate, two kills was the most any were willing to endure, and they left.

 

This is all an anecdotal story to reference the SOLUTION, which is again, the ability to advertise clearly and easily, non drugging battles.  There IS DEMAND, there ARE players, and at MY RANK.  That are very content with playing drug free, but they don't because there is no good way to get info on what games are drug free at the time.

 

Solution, allow players to either name, or select indicators on propass that can be filtered for to allow non-druggers to find each other and play one their own, away from druggers.

 

(Didn't proff this, grammar might be bad, if it is, reread, don't have time to edit it)

 

 

This thread just goes round and round in an endless stream of BS. Same old poop, different day.

 

Look at you, all passive aggresive, "oop", how mild a term.  I use the the real vernacular and you get your under pants all tied up in a knot.  Yes, it's circular, the poop us real non-druggers have to deal with from all your type.

[omrot 2,327]

Everyone has premium account and hence pro pass for these few days. So.... -_-

Everyone did have premium

 

I joined tons of non supplies battles and really enjoyed it  :)

 

I hope Tanki does this again sometime soon

[MLG_Keemstar 176]

I find this funny ^_^ because in the end, we all drugged atleast once  :P

[omrot 2,327]

I find this funny ^_^ because in the end, we all drugged atleast once  :P

Only in parkour battles and Goldboxes

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

Eh!!, in case you can't remember what you wrote(cos I can), it was not t**d with a U that you called a fellow forum user, it was t**d with an A. That's what the whole argument was about as both words obviously have very different connotations. If that's what you think you wrote then it may have been a typo by you.

 

Oh!! BTW. I wasn't a drugger until I got to gismo rank. I only drug now cos I've got the equipment I wanted from the start, and have not much else to spend crystals on apart from upgrades and drugs. I earned in battle every single crystal I use and use them as I want to.

That's nice.  I'm very happy for you.  I hope this satisfies your ability to rationalize your position on what WE, the non-drugging crowd, wish to do.  Maybe when are all great Gizmos like you, we'll all end up drugging because of our slews of spare crystals we have and the NEED to spend them.  After all, spending crystal is obviously more important to you than game play, since you said you weren't drugging until to bought everything you wanted.  So, in your case, it was just the need to buy, you play to buy, not to play.  Like I said, that's nice, and even interdasting.

 

interesting *

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

OMG!! what a load of old trite nonsense. I slogged away with rico/mammoth combo for years to buy the 2 turrets and hull I wanted for gameplay purposes. It's a strategy that I planned out, and now I'm getting the rewards for it. You can carry on looking down your nose at druggers though if you want...if it makes you feel better and superior.

Duly noted, and I WILL take THIS ONE BIT of advice from you under consideration, but I won't tell what I decide upon, it tends to piss people off when I share my opinion.

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

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What a very detailed and articulate post! Wish this was the standard... :P

 

Over the course of the 8 or so hours I played of drug-free battles, I witnessed 36 8v8, 17 10v10, and 8 12v12 battles completely full and running for 3+ rounds (a lot of them were Kungur and Rio). Most of the battles were in the WO2 - Colonel range, which shows that there are a lot of non-druggers at those ranks.

 

So yeah... non-druggers are everywhere. They're just so used to being stomped on by druggers (and being forced to counter-drug) that they aren't recognized.  ;)

[omrot 2,327]

What a very detailed and articulate post! Wish this was the standard... :P

 

Over the course of the 8 or so hours I played of drug-free battles, I witnessed 36 8v8, 17 10v10, and 8 12v12 battles completely full and running for 3+ rounds (a lot of them were Kungur and Rio). Most of the battles were in the WO2 - Colonel range, which shows that there are a lot of non-druggers at those ranks.

 

So yeah... non-druggers are everywhere. They're just so used to being stomped on by druggers (and being forced to counter-drug) that they aren't recognized.  ;)

I just played 105 minutes polygonCP without drugs and although we were beaten 1000-100 I had so much fun. It is better knowing that your were beaten by someone because of their skill and garage then being beaten by a noob who needs to be 8 times your tank to win

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

I agree entirely, had any of you other drug-haters written such a post, maybe you would have gotten somewhere by now. :P

 

About this issue, I've mentioned this before but you seem to have noted it. A battle mode filter alongside the current DM/TDM/CP/CTF filters would help.

Couldn't be bothered to make an icon, u get the picture.

Rather than deselecting the other mode filters, they're left highlighted, but when you toggle the new filter off (so it turns grey), supply battles are removed from view in the lobby. As you mention, another filter on the supply pass garage section would be more specific to the exact battle type you want. Once your preferred settings have been picked, the lobby filter would be a quick and easy way for someone that likes both drug and Pro battles to find both types of battle.

This is EXACTLY the issue.

 

There is NO WAY to easily filter for ProBattle settings.  TANKI Staff, listen to us, add a filter, or allow us some way of identifying no supply battles.  ProPassers will play them, they will pay for ProPasses, you will earn you money.

 

GIVE US FILTERS for ALL ProPass options to filter on.  Not just for our crowd, all the options.

 

It's that simple.

 

So, yeah, the point is, they never have, and they they took away the ability to name battles, so, there you have it.  We cannot have a ProPass following if they cannot intelligently seek each other out for the purposes of specific game play.

 

(for the idea of ProPass of regular battles, that's still too wide, we'd have to parse through 20 to 30 battles at sometimes of the day to try to find one, and if one pops up on the list we already passed, we'd might miss it.  We need a sub section filter, period, for all ProPass options.)

[Axl-And-The-Axmen 6]

i like the sound of that pro pass section idea.

[asifmehmood 1,576]

I m happy since I got Pro Pass

[aggaire 10]

I'd actually be happy to go with a pro pass, but my experience has been that I can't find drug-free games. I don't know if it's just the rank, or that I'm on the wrong servers, or what.

 

I'd love to see the Tanki staff set up filters for types of Pro-pass games, but I suspect they aren't doing it simply because those filters would reduce the number of games on the lists by too much. I generally see less than one page of games available at any time on a particular server, and usually only 5-6 Pro games there.

 

I took a look at the topic DaiDefed mentioned, but it looks like they're just setting up filtering/searching for Maps, not for Pro pass options, and that particular topic was merged with a bunch of others so it probably won't even be seen again.

 

Has anyone actually created an entire forum topic suggesting the Pro pass filter?

 

Is there any recent Dev response, anywhere, to the topic of drugging? Has anyone tried talking to Tanki devs/staff by email or phone or anything, if there is no response here?

[malval 49]

Disagree with this.

Supplies are used for a reason. Whats the point in "double damage" if it only does 1 quarter more damage?

But maybe, make the prices higher.

[dan146_tanker 770]

There is one very obvious solution. Make every supply cost 700 crystals then everyone will stop ''drugging'' and battles will be fair for everyone. Or just take supplies out of the game completely (keep pickups in the game still)

[VaudeVille 1,428]

There is one very obvious solution. Make every supply cost 700 crystals then everyone will stop ''drugging'' and battles will be fair for everyone. Or just take supplies out of the game completely (keep pickups in the game still)

Seriously?! <_< go buy a pro pass if u hate druggers

[r_Valk8 2,086]

There is one very obvious solution. Make every supply cost 700 crystals then everyone will stop ''drugging'' and battles will be fair for everyone. Or just take supplies out of the game completely (keep pickups in the game still)

that is the worst!!!!! idea ever 700 crys for a single armour? -,- what abt the ppl who actually like drugs? it woudent b fair to them....

[ksa_enus 248]

drugs are ruining battles ,

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

drugs are ruining battles ,

Nonsense. Only mults ruin battles.

[basenji7 1,199]

Nonsense. Only mults ruin battles.

Many things ruin battles...