declined Place a limit on garage supplies in battles

[reggieperrin 2]

It's hard to know how tank will respond to the suggestion - which i think has wide support, although those who like drug-feats might disagree. At the end of the day gaming needs to be fun and fundamentally fair so that those that have skill can do better than those without. Excessive use of supplies undermines those basic principles and i think that if Tanki is going to grow in needs to respond. Making people pay to play without supplies whilst making the rest of tank a free for all is not the way forward. Let's face it, the majority of tank games end in one-sided massacres and often people leave before the game finishes which makes it a lame sort of game for winners and losers alike. Restricting supplies so that they need to be used tactically and therefore responsibly, seems to be a good compromise. Either that  or you pay to play with unlimited supplies and the rest of tank has supply usage controlled.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Maybe if you self-drug, your scoring should drop for a percentage (randomly 25% to 40%) while the drug lasts. Picking up drops should have no penalty.

Many proposals have been made, yours among them. See this topic, which summarize the whole issue, various aspects of it and possible solutions.

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=246957&p=4714520

But Tanki Administration has paid no attention and would not really discuss it with the players.

[i200000 717]

Duplicate topic btw............

[QueenSeraphina 407]

I swear to god I'm so sick of seeing this issue come up OVER AND OVER! Get over it! Stop crying about in-game mechanics! Find another game to play if it'll pacify you, but STOP complaining. I say this every single time, "Smart Cool-downs have nerfed the drugs enough."

Tired of repeating myself.

People constantly complaining about drugs. Makes me laugh and be pissed off at the same time. You have a SOLUTION right in front of you!!! Hello!? PRO Battle?! Why does everyone ignore THAT?! I'm sorry, but I have to go off on these clowns who claim they "can't play" the freaking game cuz of supplies. But this nonsense is getting on my nerves. Just someone! Make it end!

Don't worry, Dragon.. even if some players complain about it, there's very little they can do about it -- Except the encouragement & awareness raising of fair play without them.

 

Hazel-Rah said this in one of the threads:

 

Those people forgot how I answered them that their ideas to cut supply usage is a no go. Too bad I can't speak in that section of the forum anymore. On the second thought though... it's good that I can't. Saying same things again and again is really boring thing.

 

 

Drugs drive a wedge between rich and poor so....

 

I can only say this: Good luck in battles, tankers. May the best fundamentals win. :ph34r:

[blacksouleater 190]

No solutions still remain no answers.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

No solutions still remain no answers.

Add a limit to number of drugs per round... That way it's more strategic and makes you consider: "Is it worth it to use a drug right now?" instead of drugging 24/7 with no thinking whatsoever and dominating the battlefield.

[viratno2 146]

I swear to god I'm so sick of seeing this issue come up OVER AND OVER! Get over it! Stop crying about in-game mechanics! Find another game to play if it'll pacify you, but STOP complaining. I say this every single time, "Smart Cool-downs have nerfed the drugs enough."

Tired of repeating myself.

People constantly complaining about drugs. Makes me laugh and be pissed off at the same time. You have a SOLUTION right in front of you!!! Hello!? PRO Battle?! Why does everyone ignore THAT?! I'm sorry, but I have to go off on these clowns who claim they "can't play" the freaking game cuz of supplies. But this nonsense is getting on my nerves. Just someone! Make it end!

ooo PRO battles pay 5k and find only 3-4 battles with no scd. yay for pro battles.

[caproz 61]

Pro battle; xp battle

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

People constantly complaining about drugs. Makes me laugh and be pissed off at the same time. You have a SOLUTION right in front of you!!! Hello!? PRO Battle?! Why does everyone ignore THAT?! I'm sorry, but I have to go off on these clowns who claim they "can't play" the freaking game cuz of supplies. But this nonsense is getting on my nerves. Just someone! Make it end!

People constantly bringing up PRO Battles as a solution to drugging. Makes me laugh and be pissed off at the same time. That is NOT a SOLUTION!!! Hello!? PRO Pass costs 5,000 precious, hard-earned crystals?! Why does everyone ignore THAT?! I'm sorry, but I have to go off on these clowns who claim "PRO Battles is the solution" cuz PRO Battles is in NO WAY any sort of solution AT ALL. But this illogical fallacy is getting on my nerves. Just someone! Help me explain that PRO Battles is not a solution! 

 

 

I see that all pro-drugging players have failed to adequately explain how SCD resolved the drugging issue as well as give logical and reasonable explanations as to why drugs should be kept in the game, so therefore, drugs need to be removed from non-parkour battles. End of discussion.

[BSG-62 512]

I swear to god I'm so sick of seeing this issue come up OVER AND OVER! Get over it! Stop crying about in-game mechanics! Find another game to play if it'll pacify you, but STOP complaining. I say this every single time, "Smart Cool-downs have nerfed the drugs enough."

Tired of repeating myself.

People constantly complaining about drugs. Makes me laugh and be pissed off at the same time. You have a SOLUTION right in front of you!!! Hello!? PRO Battle?! Why does everyone ignore THAT?! I'm sorry, but I have to go off on these clowns who claim they "can't play" the freaking game cuz of supplies. But this nonsense is getting on my nerves. Just someone! Make it end!

At my level, there aren't any PRO battles.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

At my level, there aren't any PRO battles.

Exactly. So how is PRO Battles a solution to drugging? Simple. It isn't.

[viratno2 146]

Calm down and be a thug.

https://youtu.be/TDe0XTzh23s

[viratno2 146]

Thug life silences everyone

:D :D

[LoneWulfe 4]

Just someone! Help me explain that PRO Battles is not a solution! 

PRO battles are not a solution to the massive drug problem that plagues Tanki; here's why:

 

• The pass costs 5000 crystals, which most players aren't willing to spend.
• Even after buying the pass, non-drugging PRO battles are hard to find. Most people just play parkour, XP/BP, or unlimited drugs.
• Very few PRO battles exist at all but the highest ranks.
• Hackers can use drugs in non-drug PRO battles.
• The logic behind buying a PRO pass to play in non-drugger battles is flawed. I should not have to pay 5000 crystals to get a fair fight. That is dumb.

[L.I.B.E.R.A.T.O.R 218]

I like this concept. Tanki should be a fair game, not one where only power hungry people can lord over us all!

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

 

PRO battles are not a solution to the massive drug problem that plagues Tanki; here's why:

 

• The pass costs 5000 crystals, which most players aren't willing to spend.
• Even after buying the pass, non-drugging PRO battles are hard to find. Most people just play parkour, XP/BP, or unlimited drugs.
• Very few PRO battles exist at all but the highest ranks.
• Hackers can use drugs in non-drug PRO battles.
• The logic behind buying a PRO pass to play in non-drugger battles is flawed. I should not have to pay 5000 crystals to get a fair fight. That is dumb.

 

THANK YOU. Those are exactly the points that I made which apparently are very hard to see for the players in support of drugging.

[justin_the_prosurfer 1,116]

Really , we should be limited with 25 of each type of drugs in battles .

[LoneWulfe 4]

Really , we should be limited with 25 of each type of drugs in battles .

It should depend on the battle length, I'm thinkin' 5 of each (with the exception of mines, since that's some players' strategies) for a 15 minute game, 10 for a 30 minute game, and 20 for a 60 minute game. That way, druggers could still have their precious drugs, but they have to have at least some sort of strategy about using them.

[Captain_Canuck 49]

 

PRO battles are not a solution to the massive drug problem that plagues Tanki; here's why:

 

• The pass costs 5000 crystals, which most players aren't willing to spend.
• Even after buying the pass, non-drugging PRO battles are hard to find. Most people just play parkour, XP/BP, or unlimited drugs.
• Very few PRO battles exist at all but the highest ranks.
• Hackers can use drugs in non-drug PRO battles.
• The logic behind buying a PRO pass to play in non-drugger battles is flawed. I should not have to pay 5000 crystals to get a fair fight. That is dumb.

 

Thank you. That proves my point on why drugging should continue to be allowed until Tanki removes all types of hacking.

Hackers are already using hacked drugs in non-PRO battles , in addition to artificial lag, artificial game removal, artificial flag drop, etc,

If us buyers were unable to buy drugs then we'd have an even harder time against the hackers...

[RustyNail 1,538]

Thank you. That proves my point on why drugging should continue to be allowed until Tanki removes all types of hacking.

Hackers are already using hacked drugs in non-PRO battles , in addition to artificial lag, artificial game removal, artificial flag drop, etc,

If us buyers were unable to buy drugs then we'd have an even harder time against the hackers...

Disagree / downvote

[deathrapter27519 30]

Guys all this complaining for a change won't work. The devs obviously can't win this fight, so they are all ignoring us... Face it the chances of them removing these drugs are very low. Unless we all buy pro battle passes and play no drug games so they lose a crap ton of money, they wont consider changes.

[deathrapter27519 30]

One solution would be to create a drugging server and a non-drugging server. Druggers don't like this idea. Why?

When everybody used drugs you don't become special anymore. You lose your advantage. 

So here is an idea:

Make double battle funds or double xp earned on the drugging maps to give the druggers and incentive to join that map. Pretty simple...

But then again, those noobs that sit on mammoths and twins with 123 camping on points would still hate that idea because they have no idea how to actually play the game.

[Captain_Canuck 49]

Eliminate hacking first.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Thank you. That proves my point on why drugging should continue to be allowed until Tanki removes all types of hacking.

Hackers are already using hacked drugs in non-PRO battles , in addition to artificial lag, artificial game removal, artificial flag drop, etc,

If us buyers were unable to buy drugs then we'd have an even harder time against the hackers...

What... You must have misunderstood what @LoneWulfe was saying. First of all, @LoneWulfe is saying that PRO Battles are not a solution to drugging, not proving at all any point of yours that states drugs should be allowed. If anything, from his tone he seems to be against drugging.

 

Eliminate hacking first.

Dude stop with "eliminate hacking first", okay? Hacking is not the problem. Crazy drug-buyers are the problem. As far as I've seen (a lot) there have not been any cases where there was a drug hacker that hacked drugs in a non-drug battle. Prove that there are drug-hackers first with screenshots or recordings first before you say that there are. Hacking is even more difficult to remove than drugs because there is always a loophole that hackers will find. Plus if there is a hacker, how are drugs going to even help against hi if he can just regenerate unlimited health or jump or fly or unlimited/permanent drugs? You'll just be wasting drugs rather than actually fighting back. Additionally, you have not adequately proven that hacking is a big problem concerning drugs. You keep stating the same exact phrase over and over again, "Hackers use hacked drugs" without any sort of supporting details that explain how exactly this affects the problem of drugging.

 

This is what you do not see: 

If drugs were completely removed from the game, there wouldn't be any drugs for hackers to hack at all, eliminating the problem of drug-hackers.

 

I rest my case. lol I feel like a lawyer now heehee

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

One solution would be to create a drugging server and a non-drugging server. Druggers don't like this idea. Why?

When everybody used drugs you don't become special anymore. You lose your advantage. 

So here is an idea:

Make double battle funds or double xp earned on the drugging maps to give the druggers and incentive to join that map. Pretty simple...

But then again, those noobs that sit on mammoths and twins with 123 camping on points would still hate that idea because they have no idea how to actually play the game.

This is not a bad solution either. However, I would be against the idea of having double battle funds/XP on drugging maps. That would be kind of absurd and overpowered.

 

 

 

PRO battles are not a solution to the massive drug problem that plagues Tanki; here's why:

 

• The pass costs 5000 crystals, which most players aren't willing to spend.
• The logic behind buying a PRO pass to play in non-drugger battles is flawed. I should not have to pay 5000 crystals to get a fair fight. That is dumb.

• The pass costs 5000 crystals, which most players aren't willing to spend.
• The logic behind buying a PRO pass to play in non-drugger battles is flawed. I should not have to pay 5000 crystals to get a fair fight. That is dumb.

EXACTLY. Many people have said this already, yet no one seems to get it.

The two main problems behind the PRO Battle argument that druggers make is:

1. Expensive and costly.

2. You should not pay to have a fair fight. No-drug-battles should be default and PRO Battles should allow drugging because if players have the crystals to spend on tons and tons of drugs, surely they have enough to purchase a PRO Pass.

 

Off-topic, but same goes for having private battles. Why should you spend your crystals just to have a private battle for you and your friend? Lots of people have friends in the game, so basically that forces everyone to buy a PRO Pass to have a private battle with their friend. Maybe your friend has to go to the lobby to tell someone something and some random player you don't know joins and you can't get him to leave because he doesn't want to and you don't want to make a new battle because the scores and funds are there. Okay enough of private battles lol.