Double Standard, is it fair?

[sachet100 1,020]

it's in the us, i don't want to be spied upon

What?? I didn't really understood what you meant..

you mean if you play a us based game then people will spy on you?? 

I live in North America, specifically Canada.

[swede1 1,726]

As they said economies are different. Think of it this way, if you go into a shop, you may see some chocolate which you can buy for £1.00 then you go into a different shop and the exact same chocolate costs £1.20. Not all prices are the same, others have said it works but clearly for you it hasn't worked.

Look at it this way , a Russian goes into a shop and buys a choclate bar for 1000 rubles, later on  Englishman walks into the same shop and the shopkeeper sells the same choclate bar for 2099 rubles

Edited May 24, 2015 by swede1

[Psycho 586]

The difference is you are buying that chocolate from 2 different companies. We are talking about buying the same thing from the same company for 2 different prices depending on where you live. That is really stupid business. The exchange rate should be the only difference in cost. Tanki claims to be international but are truly only focused on the Russians, and maybe the Arabs. I've heard rumors that they are the ones funding this little project.

-________- that is what he said, read again what he said.

[sachet100 1,020]

I think you need to pay tax to exchange money.. so by counting the tax the price might be same?? 

Its so confusing and i don't have background research.. :lol:

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

-________- that is what he said, read again what he said.

 The price should be the same world wide if they don't want to piss off the North American players.  They won't even let us buy in rubles. Tanki declines the transaction.

Edited May 24, 2015 by Canadian_Eh

[Psycho 586]

To be honest Canada isn't really that significant to say the us or UK economies 
secondly many american companies favour americans, i live in England and all you have to compare is that when the xbox one came out it cost the UK customer £429 ($663.94) and in the us $499 (£322.40)

Edited May 24, 2015 by Psycho

[Psycho 586]

 The price should be the same world wide if they don't want to piss off the North American players.  They won't even let us buy in rubles. Tanki declines the transaction.

I f it were equal it would be too expensive for some and too cheap for others.

[swede1 1,726]

 The price should be the same world wide if they don't want to piss off the North American players.  They won't even let us buy in rubles. Tanki declines the transaction.

Its not Tanki stopping the transaction, its visa/mastercard owned by the US refusing to honour the transactions to russian banks, politics aside, we players have nothing to do with these problems, what is at issue is that they have this two value system in the first place.

Predominantly the core players of this online game, as well as many others like it are lower and middle class families who are all in financial crunch around the world with shrinking disposable incomes, for the most part higher income class players are into console games and pay to play games.

So stating that russian players are more of a financial crunch that that of families in other parts of the world who enjoy playing this game are in a better financial situation is ill thought out and not based on reality.

From what I understand , access to the russian site is only an issue for US and Canada, all other countries have access, unless I hear otherwise from players in other countries to the contrary

[yellowrtclassic 22]

No it is not fair. I am a Canadian and have been shafted by higher prices for all items all my life.

Example my car was built at the Brampton assembly plant just miles from my house and the car cost $ 41,000 yet that same car in the usa was 33,000 built at this plant. I paid 1,450.00 for delivery and yet a American pays 950.00 for the car built miles from my house.

 

I could go on and on. I expected that from this game and unfortunately have become used to getting the short end of the stick.

 

I would expect the Canadian banks to be apprehensive of other world banks as the only banking system in the world that was stable during the recessions were Canadian banks as probably why you can only buy crystals this way is my thinking. Probably set up this way to protect you.

[IVIr.Catalyst 1,035]

Indices Difference Consumer Prices in Moscow are 25.60% lower than in Toronto Consumer Prices Including Rent in Moscow are 13.48% lower than in Toronto Rent Prices in Moscow are 10.29% higher than in Toronto Restaurant Prices in Moscow are 9.62% lower than in Toronto Groceries Prices in Moscow are 44.49% lower than in Toronto Local Purchasing Power in Moscow is 56.49% lower than in Toronto

 

 

Indices Difference  Consumer Prices in Moscow are 42.41% lower than in London Consumer Prices Including Rent in Moscow are 45.14% lower than in London Rent Prices in Moscow are 48.38% lower than in London Restaurant Prices in Moscow are 33.30% lower than in London Groceries Prices in Moscow are 49.31% lower than in London Local Purchasing Power in Moscow is 36.90% lower than in London

I didnt get what you said but Toronto is expensive as hell went it comes to rent/buying houses or even buying a simple BigMac combo

[joostcool 5,942]

I find it hard to understand that people are actually excusing this. Because on this point I have not read a single good excuse. Economic differences?? What do you mean? Because some people are poor they get more for less money? That's not right, and never will be. 

 

I do understand this is an issue and if I didn't have that helmet on, there to the left of my post, I would certainly have written a lot more. Still feeling sad I can't turn avatars off, for some posts. Anyway, I hope this gets sorted out, because to me it seems that it is not.

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

I find it hard to understand that people are actually excusing this. Because on this point I have not read a single good excuse. Economic differences?? What do you mean? Because some people are poor they get more for less money? That's not right, and never will be. 

 

I do understand this is an issue and if I didn't have that helmet on, there to the left of my post, I would certainly have written a lot more. Still feeling sad I can't turn avatars off, for some posts. Anyway, I hope this gets sorted out, because to me it seems that it is not.

Alt acc maybe? :p

[T.O.T.A.L.W.A.R 581]

 Still feeling sad I can't turn avatars off, for some posts.

Use an alt dude  :D  :D  :D  B)

[Sha77777 43]

I think it is fair, becoz as others say , the russian economy is too low actually tbh compared to different developed countries.

I myself don't know what economy is :P

Edited May 24, 2015 by Sha77777

[IVIr.Catalyst 1,035]

Use an alt dude  :D  :D  :D  B)

 

Alt acc maybe? :P

When you apply to be a Forum/Facebook/eSport/Chat moderator you have to write your alternate accounts in the form.

[monkeyburn 13,524]

This is a matter of economics...If you really crunch all the numbers, the system is fair.

[swede1 1,726]

This is a matter of economics...If you really crunch all the numbers, the system is fair.

would be reasonably fair if it was only Russia and the discount was around 30% but 56% is prefferential treatment no to mention countries like United Kingdom Denmark, Belgium and 20- 30 other countries can log onto to ru site and receive the same discount even though their disposable income is higher than that of North America.

Want to bet places like Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and other places like that with 10x the disposable income can buy from the ru site and receive the the 56% more crystals as well .

This is a shady way to give those who were aware of the difference to take advantage of the discount while players who were unaware are being soaked.

Edited May 24, 2015 by swede1

[NatchGa 665]

So the Russian currency is more valuable than the United States currency? because if thats the case than yeah, thats why there is a difference...

[monkeyburn 13,524]

This is a matter of economics...If you really crunch all the numbers, the system is fair.

 

 

would be reasonably fair if it was only Russia and the discount was around 30% but 56% is prefferential treatment no to mention countries like United Kingdom Denmark, Belgium and 20- 30 other countries can log onto to ru site and receive the same discount even though their disposable income is higher than that of North America.

Want to bet places like Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and other places like that with 10x the disposable income can buy from the ru site and receive the the 56% more crystals as well .

This is a shady way to give those who were aware of the difference to take advantage of the discount while players who were unaware are being soaked.

[swede1 1,726]

Oh, I missed the sarcasm there monkeyburn :p

[monkeyburn 13,524]

Oh, I missed the sarcasm there monkeyburn :P

No sarcasm intended...Good Day. :)

[The.Skilled.Legend 1,459]

rofl

[beaku 2,656]

The difference could be the commission charged by transaction companies. If you transact money locally, it won't cost you much. But online transfers across countries certainly has its cost.

[swede1 1,726]

The difference could be the commission charged by transaction companies. If you transact money locally, it won't cost you much. But online transfers across countries certainly has its cost.

Maybe if you deal with lonesharks in Vagas

[SpHryfBoss 573]

No it is not fair. I am a Canadian and have been shafted by higher prices for all items all my life.

Example my car was built at the Brampton assembly plant just miles from my house and the car cost $ 41,000 yet that same car in the usa was 33,000 built at this plant. I paid 1,450.00 for delivery and yet a American pays 950.00 for the car built miles from my house.

 

I could go on and on. I expected that from this game and unfortunately have become used to getting the short end of the stick.

 

I would expect the Canadian banks to be apprehensive of other world banks as the only banking system in the world that was stable during the recessions were Canadian banks as probably why you can only buy crystals this way is my thinking. Probably set up this way to protect you.

Well, you're not converting the numbers there. One Canadian dollar is equivalent to 81 cents in USD, so it would probably add up to about the same (I didn't want to do the math lol).