category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[arun24 6]

What the hell. This topic got 20 "No" votes in 2 days. Yet my Gold Box statistics topic lost 2 votes from the "Yes"

[arun24 6]

At generalissimo everyone can just wear rock, and get vulcan and hammers, it depends how good your team is and it depends what equipment your team has, the power of twins varies dramatically from battle to battle, so i think those variables need to be brought closer

 

But it does not need to be nerfed, twins actually has some major disadvantages

tell me some. I just know it doesnt do well at medium ranges. Other than that its  a monster.

[dilsharox 2,395]

well then start using titan 

at m2 mammoth is more popular as it unlocks before titan m2

[dilsharox 2,395]

i agree

[BSG-62 512]

Either that or a new hull...

[blacksouleater 190]

Twins are fine just like they are. Don't mess with things just because you have a personal problem with them.I have a problem with a lot of tanks I face, it's the game.

I have a bigger problem with the drugs than the tanks. Leave twins alone.

[BSG-62 512]

It's fine as it is, although it is a bit long ranged to be perfectly balanced, but close enough.

[Indra_Otsutsuki 329]

I almost thought that m3 viking would be outclassed by m3 hunter and m3 dictator but after looking up the wiki for m4 viking I find it VERY SATIFACTORY so I am gonna stick to viking and I will still be a loyal viking fan.

[Rico_Viking_9000 942]

Moderator can close now.

[Zoroxxn 8]

The reason Viking M3's stats aren't as good as Hunter/Dictator M3's is because it unlocks a good bit earlier and it's cheaper, but at M4 they're all equal.

[lukey0 27,543]

M4's are the only balanced M grade.

 

All other M's the latter they unlock the more powerful they are. Example, M3 Firebird is way more powerful than M3 Freeze but if both are M4 they are well balanced.

[projectkronos 24]

Some will make comment/suggestions that I think are dumb.

 

They might say: by a certain paints that will protect you from x gun. Really? Then I would be valuable to the other guns. And further more…. Who (except those who buy crystals) would be that rich? You can't be invulnerable to everything, pick the gun(s) that give you the most trouble and protect against them with paints. Also, just save up crystals. If you're having so much money trouble maybe you should stop uprading the other gun and using only one, or stop micro-upgrading altogether.

 

Some might say buy a heavier tank. Again - also dumb. How many are rich enough to start from scratch with a new tank and still maintain the guns they own?! Then don't 'maintain' your guns, or pick one. Micro-upgrading isn't a requirement.

 

Or someone might suggest buying one of these guns…..Again who would be rich enough to buy another gun from start from scratch? Well if they're so overpowered then these guns sans micro upgrades should be just fine. Besides, you won't need to maintain your other guns.

 

These dumb comments will irritate me. Please pause and think before you post.

 

I would like to know if anyone else but me are complaining about these “In House Cheats” Probably not, because we know that certain turrets are bad against certain guns

 

 

Reply To DrazenUzumaki

 

Yes, I know what it’s called. Everyone knows what weapon I was speaking of.

Thank You. Do you feel good now?

 

UM……yes it does make them overpowered if -> I <- have no chance to defend myself and if someone who is three ranks below you can easily kill me. Emphasis mine. Just because you can't defend yourself doesn't make the guns OP. Either your tank is weak against them or you're just bad.

 

That’s the very definition of Overpowered…….. No it's not.

 

This is the type of post I complained about in my opener post. No you didn't.

 

This is exactly the kind of reply that is  super irritating, Because it's right.

 

Comments in bold. Some turrets are bad vs. other turrets. I use Dictator/Vulcan, and if a sneaky Firebird decides to hit me from behind I'm not even gonna bother trying to turn my turret around. I'm also not that great at dodging snipers because the Dictator isn't very fast. But rather than complaining about how they're so OP and how I'm too poor to get better gear and woe is me, I just laugh it off, respawn, and change equipment if I need to. You can't be good against all turrets all the time. Those Firebirds with light hulls and short ranges are really vulnerable to long-ranged weapons like Shaft or Railgun, but that's just the price they pay for being good against guns like Vulcan. Likewise, my Vulcan outranges Twins, has better damage, and isn't knocked off by their impact force. I advise just dealing with it, I imagine there are other guys with other turrets you totally destroy, just as some turrets destroy you.

[arun24 6]

Ofc you'll have a hard time playing against others with that equipment on your rank...It's not Twins being OP,it's your equipment being UP/rank

Im waiting on the bloody tankmans day sale... damn everyone blames my equipment... Its that i cant aim properly because the projectiles knock my hull in different directions.

 

Twins are fine just like they are. Don't mess with things just because you have a personal problem with them.I have a problem with a lot of tanks I face, it's the game.

I have a bigger problem with the drugs than the tanks. Leave twins alone.

Personal problem?. Twins was one of my favorite weapons but i never bought it because of its price at M2. Discounted at half price its close to 70K... I wasnt gonna waste that many crystals on a turret that didnt really do much for Medium Ranges. So i set out on buying 3 turrets and hulls from each category. Im upgrading that t M2 in September, then im gonna save for M3's. Druggers have become more easier to handle. Just get yourself a Firebird.

[arun24 6]

Then it's not really infinite is it?

You havent come across a person using M3 Vulcan with M3 Mammoth yet have you? Well heres what makes it infinite. Theres always a Freeze and Isida hiding behind the Vulcan cooling him off.

 

The only reason you want twins nerfed is simply because you have got no m2 hulls or a strong twins protection paint, not that it is op. You also made a topic suggesting 2 nerf shaft and fire, what do you want 2 be nerfed next?

Nice, i have a fan. Wait till September alright, ill get myself some damn M2 hulls. im not some buyer who could just type in a few numbers and instantly get that many crystals to purchase everything at full price. Haven't you seen that thats what O.U.F.A is doing on his new account...

 

In Sandbox and Island, Twins is not a big problem. And just as you said, there are other tankers too, and half of them are your team-mates. So, in Arena, if you cant kill them, at least they can. Or, are you thinking that Firebird is a short range turret and you play in short maps, so you alone can deal with everyone, since you have m2?

Yeah, most of the time i play with @Dark-Rim. He just uses Thunder and camps in a spot waiting for me to damage my opponent. Not only does he waste my ammo, but he is kill stealing and making me pay my attention to unnecessary players. But if he keeps ending up first at the end of each round then what does that tell you...

 

You havent seen what i can do with Firebird and Wasp. I just troll all them heavy and medium tanks by circling around them. 

[Supernatural 2,053]

Vulcan is much more OP than twins. Vulcan+Mammoth m3 with a supporting Isida is invincible.

[Joshua16 780]

Vulcan really does need to be nerfed, it has an infinite range (or so it seems) and it makes my viking m3 when being shot at just veer off to one side whilst I have no controll over it, making it almost instant death making it impossible to move, its range needs to be nerfed and its impact force.

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

Yeah agreed, also firebird, my storm isida m2 hornet m2 cant hold a hornet m2 fire m2 green paint(no mu)

[dilsharox 2,395]

& make it more unpopular?

well i suggest that u buy graffiti ASAP

vulcan M3 maybe powerful but the other modifications are not that powerful

[duck100101 965]

Yeah, I guess, still not as bad as fire, freezer...

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

Reply To DrazenUzumaki

 

Yes, I know what it’s called. Everyone knows what weapon I was speaking of.

Thank You. Do you feel good now?

 

UM……yes it does make them overpowered if I have no chance to defend myself and if someone who is three ranks below you can easily kill me.

 

That’s the very definition of Overpowered……..

 

This is the type of post I complained about in my opener post.

 

This is exactly the kind of reply that is  super irritating,

 

3 things 

1. its drazeruzumaki not drazenuzumaki

2. the weapons according to me are not balanced in terms of being m1, m2 or m3...(anyone can agree twins m1 > smoky m1)

  the way they have balanced the game is like some m2's are extremely strong as their m0s and m1s were weak....if u have seen fire m3, its     almost as good as m2. i have fire m2 and its OP , i agree but can u say the same thing for fire m3?

 3. so according to me atleast all weapons are balanced over-all but seem OP in their different modifications...

 

and plz quote to reply so i can get a notification for a fast reply

[Technophyle 367]

Im waiting on the bloody tankmans day sale... damn everyone blames my equipment... Its that i cant aim properly because the projectiles knock my hull in different directions.

 

Personal problem?. Twins was one of my favorite weapons but i never bought it because of its price at M2. Discounted at half price its close to 70K... I wasnt gonna waste that many crystals on a turret that didnt really do much for Medium Ranges. So i set out on buying 3 turrets and hulls from each category. Im upgrading that t M2 in September, then im gonna save for M3's. Druggers have become more easier to handle. Just get yourself a Firebird.

so, now you are saying that twins really dont do much. so whats the probelm?

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

& make it more unpopular?

well i suggest that u buy graffiti ASAP

vulcan M3 maybe powerful but the other modifications are not that powerful

true that

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Yeah it's the M3/4 that's really, really strong. M0-M2 I rarely see, or if I do, not that strong.

[kostas604 106]

If you can't beat them join' em. That's what devs want and that's why they improved it in the last update. It's rare.

[Tap_Dancer 1,360]

Do you know how massively vulcan got nerfed and you want to nerf it even more? It got its damage decreased, same with recoil and it heats up quicker. M4 vulcan's damage was 70 and now brought it down to 60! If it is 2 strong just buy a paint, and as for the recoil use a heavy hull ;)

Edited August 17, 2015 by BirdKnights