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We've told you what would balance it.

So far all I've seen in this topic is "nerf this and nerf that" for every single gun. People are just saying to nerf whatever gun they find most annoying, which depends on the equipment they like to use. That's not how balance works. So far the only thing the replies in this topic are doing is giving the developers your personal opinions about game balance.

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So far all I've seen in this topic is "nerf this and nerf that" for every single gun. People are just saying to nerf whatever gun they find most annoying, which depends on the equipment they like to use. That's not how balance works. So far the only thing the replies in this topic are doing is giving the developers your personal opinions about game balance.

Nerfing supplies or weapons won't balance them, removing supplies from regular battles will.

It would make the druggers who call themselves "Pros" to go to PRO battles.

Then we non-druggers would rely on skill, and not having rich parents or "planning out how to buy the drugs".

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The idea of a pro pass is to grant access to special battle features and formats.  Also the pass has a fair price.  5000 crystals is hardly anything to the high ranks who frequent it, though it is still small enough for lower ranks to afford it.  If you think you can play better without supplies, then buy a pass and win more battles and increase your overall income.

Actually, 5000 crystals is a heck of a lot of crystals for me. I can only play 15 minute games, and as such, I can't get large amount of funds. Also, with the new score caps, it's even harder to get decent amounts of crystals. That said, I have many drugs which I don't even remember buying, and I understand the fact that it is a business, and requires a profit to keep running. Personally, I think that they could possibly put a limit on the amount of drugs usable in the battles, they could COMPLETELY REMOVE score caps, and then the game might be more fair.

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I have to admit, freeze REALLY needs to be buffed, so does thunder, and also drugs are the constant problem in this game. However, I understand that developers are going all out on Unity, so the best thing now is to keep our complaints and topics ready for the developers to watch for valid points, and work on the clean slate that is Unity. So guys, keep the ammo ready

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If you find a particular turret/hull annoying then learn to master your favorite combo and you can beat just about anything. In my opinion hammer has been nerfed ever since it got here, has that stopped me? no of course not it drove me to push myself and now my m2 hammer is microupgraded to m3 damage and i can take on any gun/hull with almost no problem almost every battle i join ends up with me in 1st or 2nd. The only problem is fighting another of the same turret or hull.

 

Lesson here is in reality any gun can combat with each other I have seen rails fight off firebirds and isidas with no double damage or double armour only pure skill. Push yourselves to master your favorite guns and you will be on top almost every battle. :D

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If you find a particular turret/hull annoying then learn to master your favorite combo and you can beat just about anything. In my opinion hammer has been nerfed ever since it got here, has that stopped me? no of course not it drove me to push myself and now my m2 hammer is microupgraded to m3 damage and i can take on any gun/hull with almost no problem almost every battle i join ends up with me in 1st or 2nd. The only problem is fighting another of the same turret or hull.

 

Lesson here is in reality any gun can combat with each other I have seen rails fight off firebirds and isidas with no double damage or double armour only pure skill. Push yourselves to master your favorite guns and you will be on top almost every battle. :D

+1.

 

+10, actually. Two thumbs up. 100% truth.

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Vulcan is the only weapon that I have seen dominate a battle,  a drugging vulcan mammoth  in zeus paint and it is pretty much game over. If they have an isida sitting beside them it's just leave battle time.

The other weapons can be over come with a little strategy but vulcan close, medium or far range and it is still as deadly plus you cant even drive in a bloody straight line to get to them if they shooting you.

In all the noise in this thread, don't lose sight of a number of comments in this regard ... and the impact of players leaving the battle due to this type of OP situation.

It is likely to be a factor in those complaints from players who say they do not want to play as much any more.

The word "dominate" is definitely applicable ... M3+ Vulcan Mammoth is unbeatable by almost all combinations ... apart from another Vulcan Mammoth combo.  Admittedly I only have M4 Viking and M4 Hammer that can try to compete against them ... and I will have to respawn 3 or 4 times before I can kill him off once.   Unless he has a pet Isida or health drugs ... in which case it is indeed game over ... thanks for playing but you may as well not waste any more time here and go find some other battle.

 

And so "balance" becomes a bit of a joke in this case :) :)

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All guns will never be perfectly even in different people's minds, a perfectly e en game would be boring because everyone would destroy anyone they are fighting and it would be impossible to capture flags, guns like shaft, firebird, vulcan, thunder and isida may seem OP but if you ever use them you will know they are frustratingly annoying to use and they don't seem all that good.

 

Smoky is a little iffy though, I have it M1 with 25% micro upgrades on all perimeters and mammoth M1 with 2 perimeters fully upgraded and every other one at least 25% complete, but I must say that is is pretty good:

 

It can 4 shot Hornet M0, and 5 shot M1 - with double power it goes it insta kill mode

3 shot wasp M0

 

and I use mammoth M1 with 271 HP and M2 level speed and turning. This makes for a fortress and I lasted in the blue teams base (using double armor and one repair kit) for about 40 seconds against fully M1 twins and dictators (even an M2 isida and railgun) so having a total of 1000 HP was a pretty big thing but I don't think it is OP, if you invest a lot into micro upgrades and only stick with one combo, you end up with lots of supplies, good gear better paints and more crystals.

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So... the developers are so clueless they told you to do this?

Or is it so you can see what we're complaining about?

 

This is comparable to Nintendo's recently released Mario Maker.

"We're fresh out of ideas, here, do it for us.".
 

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I have been using this combo very frequently and it is very neat. The two things I would like to improve would be firebird's afterburn, and wasps armour. The reason I think this is because, if Wasp's armor increased then many more people would use it, the reason more people would use it would be because it's armour is high and speed exellent.

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If its armor is high then no 1 will use hornet and this will create total imbalance and firebird is presently very good and no need to improve afterburn. It will be OP.

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Mults are the biggest unbalance thing in this game.

I do noit log and do not play in tanki any more.

Watch video blog and wait for some anty mult system.

 

They ruin game. The same all flying hackers, immortal hakers, and after this people go out from game and stop theirs friends from playi9ng.... I told my friends to not play, until it will be solved. It is terrible. I do not know why it is taken soo easy and Tanki do not react on this.

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Mults are the biggest unbalance thing in this game.

I do noit log and do not play in tanki any more.

Watch video blog and wait for some anty mult system.

 

They ruin game. The same all flying hackers, immortal hakers, and after this people go out from game and stop theirs friends from playi9ng.... I told my friends to not play, until it will be solved. It is terrible. I do not know why it is taken soo easy and Tanki do not react on this.

Yes, and many long CP 1 hour games are rigged. Too bad there's no system to flush them out.

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Yes, and many long CP 1 hour games are rigged. Too bad there's no system to flush them out.

I hate mults. Last tiem i play 1h CP game like You say, and they stol founds. Mult was driving up on arena and from time to time just shot down. 5 vs 3 is hard to win... I do not play tanki since last sale. I did some buys, on 40% to help tanki economy - ok. But tanki do not help me to have a good fun. I play buy canon, invst, and than some mult destroy all my work. This is very very very sad.... Very....

 

So i decided not too play. I do not log to game too. It do not make me happy any more.

Why than I have to play in something i do not like. Bad emotion, I got enough of it around.

Thanks.

I am full...

 

So I decided not to play.

Meaby from time to time I wil play, in future, but for me that game is broken.

Mentaly ill society, buy drags, cheat in game, multing, greed pathologies.

SOmeon who create this kind of envirment proboly do here some experiment.

Like in film - Das Experiment - to check our reactions, how long they will kick us

How long they can disrespect us, and how long we will do not react.

 

Stupid...

For me - that is not fun.

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