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Just faced 2 M3 Isidas in Island, impossible to kill even one unless you start drugging, but you better not as else you'll have two drugging Isidas even more impossibles to kill.

Due to their range, cannot flee as well. Even mines doesn't work as they can kill you without touch the mine because of their OP range.

A battle with 2 Isidas or more in the ennemy team is already lost.

Isida is now the best close-range weapons, as even if Firebird deals massive damages, it doesn't heal itself all the time.

Also a tank with an Isida hidden behind is almost impossible to kill as well.

My point is not that all the previous things have to be nerfed, but a few of them, to make things more balanced.

I often destroy 2 or 3 Firebirds in a row thanks to my paint Inferno, but why can't I do the same with Isida (even wearing Electra) ?

PS: sorry for this block of text, just realized ^^.

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Just faced 2 M3 Isidas in Island, impossible to kill even one unless you start drugging, but you better not as else you'll have two drugging Isidas even more impossibles to kill.

Due to their range, cannot flee as well. Even mines doesn't work as they can kill you without touch the mine because of their OP range.

A battle with 2 Isidas or more in the ennemy team is already lost.

Isida is now the best close-range weapons, as even if Firebird deals massive damages, it doesn't heal itself all the time.

Also a tank with an Isida hidden behind is almost impossible to kill as well.

My point is not that all the previous things have to be nerfed, but a few of them, to make things more balanced.

I often destroy 2 or 3 Firebirds in a row thanks to my paint Inferno, but why can't I do the same with Isida (even wearing Electra) ?

PS: sorry for this block of text, just realized ^^.

hey well guess what. if you are mad that twins is OP then why dont you use twins and be OP yourself

 

 

 

Edit: fixed spelling ("will" --> "well")

 

 

Thats what i always say to people who rant on about how they think a gun is op or something in a battle. They always go quiets after that XD

Just faced 2 M3 Isidas in Island, impossible to kill even one unless you start drugging, but you better not as else you'll have two drugging Isidas even more impossibles to kill.

Due to their range, cannot flee as well. Even mines doesn't work as they can kill you without touch the mine because of their OP range.

A battle with 2 Isidas or more in the ennemy team is already lost.

Isida is now the best close-range weapons, as even if Firebird deals massive damages, it doesn't heal itself all the time.

Also a tank with an Isida hidden behind is almost impossible to kill as well.

My point is not that all the previous things have to be nerfed, but a few of them, to make things more balanced.

I often destroy 2 or 3 Firebirds in a row thanks to my paint Inferno, but why can't I do the same with Isida (even wearing Electra) ?

PS: sorry for this block of text, just realized ^^.

Isida is not op. Maybe in certin maps it is, but its not op in general. If u think its that op then use it yourself......

Isida behind a big tank is not indestructeble either. Attacking it with low damage, high rate of fire turrets will not tealy hurt it though, so just have one person with rail or shaft then have another with twins. The rail brings its health down alot then twinss keeps its health down so isida cant heal. The isida will need to reaload though so the twins will be good for that. Then rail/shaft shots again and its prafically dead. This is all done within 30 seconds anyways and does not require much organizing. If twins is hard because it keeps getting hit then use rico or smokey. Im talking about m3+ mammy and isida now too. Its even easier at these upgrades too as everything is so fast. Just get in the habit of traveling with somebody else and this will rarely ne a problem. Even use isida and rail to take it out too, then the rail can be healed too if hit and when stableizing other isida healing you would be healing yourself. Nothing is OP? There are always weaknesses. Even people with big k/d in battles can be eqsily killed off if good tatics are used. Tanki Online has can be much more than charging into battle guns blazing. Stealth can be your biggest weapon, so smokey and thunder are great for that cause they have no projectile trail when fired.

 

 

 

The point is, nothing in tanki need massive changes to it.There are still room for improvements, but everyything could atay how it is and tanki would still be good.

 

Also, giant chamges to weapons that change looks and stats would piss off alot of people who like them. Whatbif the devs suddenly changed your favorite weapon so much that you need a completly different taic for it? You would be pissed too, right?

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Lol talking about a coordinated attck with rails, twins and whatever is irrevelant since in 90% of the battle most of people plays are with random allies you cannot coordinate with (my teammates are usually just wandering around, but I don't generalize ofc).

Btw 30s to kill a guy or two is huge.

Talk about Rail vs Isida is irrevelant as well since it is two completly differents ranges. Ofc I can take down an Isida if I'm 100m away.

Pleasr also consider that things can be differents from a gras to another.

My point is that Isida is OP at close range. It can hide behind a heavy tank, well I guess it is part of the concept.

PS: I use weapons (currently Ricochet) because they requires skill, not because they are OP.

PS(2): nerf=minor change, no one is talking about turn Isida into a banana-laucher or whatever.

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Lol talking about a coordinated attck with rails, twins and whatever is irrevelant since in 90% of the battle most of people plays are with random allies you cannot coordinate with (my teammates are usually just wandering around, but I don't generalize ofc).

Btw 30s to kill a guy or two is huge.

Talk about Rail vs Isida is irrevelant as well since it is two completly differents ranges. Ofc I can take down an Isida if I'm 100m away.

Pleasr also consider that things can be differents from a gras to another.

My point is that Isida is OP at close range. It can hide behind a heavy tank, well I guess it is part of the concept.

PS: I use weapons (currently Ricochet) because they requires skill, not because they are OP.

PS(2): nerf=minor change, no one is talking about turn Isida into a banana-laucher or whatever.

Its not really that coordinated to have one guy attack while another is attacking too with specific turrets. Iv done it many times. I said that isida can be op at close ranges and that it can be taken out feom afar too. I said that cause the other person said tht it was op in general,they never said it was op just in close combat.

 

P.S. I use guns for skill too, as they are generally more versitile than the other "op" turrets. An expert smokey player can easily kill a twins player, and an expert smokey player can also kill a smokey player with twins, as they know the ways it attacks.

Btw i love Rico too :)

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Guys can anyone explain to me why fire m2 is really op

It's only OP on the rank when it unlocks, but after that it is surpassed by Smoky M2, Isida and Freeze M3 and other guns that unlock later on and cost more.It could seem OP to you because you only have M1 and M0 hulls and don't use protective paints. If you buy a paint with 20-30% protection from Firebird, you will notice it being a lot less OP.

 

Also try playing only in battles where your rank is highest. That way there won't be any Majors with M2 firebirds and your tank will be stronger compared to others.

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It's only OP on the rank when it unlocks, but after that it is surpassed by Smoky M2, Isida and Freeze M3 and other guns that unlock later on and cost more.It could seem OP to you because you only have M1 and M0 hulls and don't use protective paints. If you buy a paint with 20-30% protection from Firebird, you will notice it being a lot less OP.

 

Also try playing only in battles where your rank is highest. That way there won't be any Majors with M2 firebirds and your tank will be stronger compared to others.

1. True, true...

 

2. If you do thatbthen you may have more fun, but you will get much less crystals and you will start to lose skill so when you fight higher ranks, you will be destroyed very quickly and you will jist get frustrated and quit or something while complaining that they are all buyers or something.

What you SHOULD do is to sit you time between low ranks and high. For the past month iv been fighting higher ranks and now im so mich better than before and i get over 100 crystal per 100 xp when i used to get around 80-90 crystals pee 100 xp average.

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I'm sure many of you have noticed as well. I don't know WHAT tanki did to the firebird, but it is rediculously over powered now. I can't even play on DM anymore cause it's nothing but FIREBIRDS. De-op the firebird! In the tanki v-log once, they said that the Hornet was every-other-hull. Well now the firebird is every-other-turret!! Idk what it's like for you liuetenants and Generallisimo's, but it is MURDER for warrant officers, and lower. Sorry if this goes to as a rant, but it is a rant. I am so sick of the firebird, I just wanna break it in half. What do you guys think?

Preach!! :D

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These are my opinions of OP turrets...

 

Number 1: Firebird. Don't even make me explain. I had to make a new acc to have at least 1 battle without one :wacko: .

 

Number 2: Hammer. A three shot shotgun with phenomenal stats is sure to be OP. I've seen an M0 three shot a mammoth :blink: . snm

 

Number 3: Ricochet: Maybe its just me, but it seems like M1 ricochet users are almost always at the top of the leaderboard and  can kill me in about 4 seconds. :angry:  

 

This is entirely my opinion and I have not said that any of this is factual.  :excl:

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These are my opinions of OP turrets...

 

Number 1: Firebird. Don't even make me explain. I had to make a new acc to have at least 1 battle without one :wacko: .

True, it can be anmoying to always need to use firebird, but if you go into larger maps then you ussally wont find any.

 

Number 2: Hammer. A three shot shotgun with phenomenal stats is sure to be OP. I've seen an M0 three shot a mammoth :blink: . snm

Iv never really been nervous about hammer. I do have a paint that protects from it and it is sometimes usefull, but ibmainly got it because i thought it protected against thunder and it looks cool XD

Number 3: Ricochet: Maybe its just me, but it seems like M1 ricochet users are almost always at the top of the leaderboard and  can kill me in about 4 seconds. :angry: 

I agree completly. When i unlocked rico, i was terrified whenever i saw someone with it cause it would killl me in seconds....then i bought it and i reked everyone else XD

Rico is very balenced a few ranks after its unlock. Idk what m2 is like, but m1 is also OP but requires skill instead, so if a noob had m1 rico he would die very quickly, but a good rico player can get to top easily.

 

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Just awesome. Thanks for nothing!!!!

 

 

Like come on! Had battle assault, 60 min. We had to defense. In what kinda of resaons player instead of defending the base, he falled back. Bunch of no-tactic-brain players. That totaly made me angry.

 

 

THANKS FOR NOTHING! ^.^ Yeah! Better leave battle 12 13 year old non-tactic-brain players, if you see me coming.

 

Ok, I cant control players incoming, but I like 60min told what to do, but who listened. Only one fakin player. So awesome. 

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Just awesome. Thanks for nothing!!!!

 

 

Like come on! Had battle assault, 60 min. We had to defense. In what kinda of resaons player instead of defending the base, he falled back. Bunch of no-tactic-brain players. That totaly made me angry.

 

 

THANKS FOR NOTHING! ^.^ Yeah! Better leave battle 12 13 year old non-tactic-brain players, if you see me coming.

 

Ok, I cant control players incoming, but I like 60min told what to do, but who listened. Only one fakin player. So awesome.

 

This belongs in the topic "Rants". Does not really have much to do with game balence...i do understand you though...how some people dontbuse any stratigy and dont listen when someone say a great strategy...happens to me all the time

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True, it can be anmoying to always need to use firebird, but if you go into larger maps then you ussally wont find any.

 

Iv never really been nervous about hammer. I do have a paint that protects from it and it is sometimes usefull, but ibmainly got it because i thought it protected against thunder and it looks cool XD

I agree completly. When i unlocked rico, i was terrified whenever i saw someone with it cause it would killl me in seconds....then i bought it and i reked everyone else XD

Rico is very balenced a few ranks after its unlock. Idk what m2 is like, but m1 is also OP but requires skill instead, so if a noob had m1 rico he would die very quickly, but a good rico player can get to top easily.

 

What should i get m1 rico or m1 isida

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What should i get m1 rico or m1 isida

I got rico first because im a rico kind of person(i also got it free from mu update). Get isida though so you can get xp from teamates and m1 isida is decent at attack at our ranks. Once you get to captain it probbly wont be good though.

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Why is Viking faster and more armored than Dictator? Will there be rebalance for THAT? I got Viking before Dictator and thought I wasted crystals.

 

Its only better at m0, and mot mued at all. When i got dictator and upgraded armor one time it was higher than viking with 4 upgrades

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I think a few of the reasons you guys think richo, icida, rail, and fire are op is because MOST of you use hornets or wasps. If you use a mammoth or something heavy, you can watch the turret's ammo run out and kill them. or it will take like 4 shots just to kill you

 

Notice, I said most...

I hate twins too :P

 

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