category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[Maf 32,318]

Twins has a clear weakness, it can't fire far and it can't use cover.

I think the biggest disadvantage is the projectile speed. Even medium hulls can dodge the shots at 40 metres range.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I think the biggest disadvantage is the projectile speed. Even medium hulls can dodge the shots at 40 metres range.

True that.

I never really considered the speed your projectiles travel...

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

What is exactly buffed in isida?

No, it's not its damage

No, it's not its healing

It's the bloody range, how can a turret have such a range? Believe me, it's literally a game changer.

There are two ways to change this, to the better;

1- Decrease that----- range

2- or even better, so that it isn't too nerfed, is to actually make it gain damage as range increases, until it's halfway, then it begins to gradually decrease, the range stays the same as now.

It's really not nice watching that isida heal from a really good distance, I personally am an isida user myself, but I feel so bad for the opposite team that I realize how op this turret is.

THIS HAS TO CHANGE.

Firstly their is absolutely no reason to use bad language such as swearing or blasphemy.

 

2nd you hardly use Isida at all 0.1 hrs

 

3rd isida has a very small range and limited power.  This is because it has more than 1 function, killing and healing. Compared to the other short range weapons, it has the shortest range.  Hammer for example has quite a long killing range and is way over powered OP.

Edited April 15, 2016 by ELIZABETH1122

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

1 it is a swear word and is also considered a blasphemy.    It does not offend me but this is on the www and children play it around the world it is also against the rules.  Further more it is just unnecessary.

 

2 I am very well aware of your hours on your reporting account.

 

3 Isida is comparatively less powered

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Isida has indeed a short range...untill it is locked on.

 

It 's astounding how far the beam can stretch before detaching.

This is imo one of the main reasons for it 's immense popularity, even in DM 's.

 

You don 't even need a fast hull with Isida, a Viking will do just as well or even better.

It 's just a matter of locking on: light hulls will die even if they try to escape as fast as possible.

The high DPS will finish them before they have the chance to escape Isida 's grip.

With heavier hulls you will mostly loose because of Isida 's self-healing.

 

Isida 's are strong: I see more Isida 's than Firebirds nowadays.

That used to be the other way round. Proof enough afaik.

Edited April 15, 2016 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

Isida has indeed a short range...untill it is locked on.

 

It 's astounding how far the beam can stretch before detaching.

This is imo one of the main reasons for it 's immense popularity, even in DM 's.

 

You don 't even need a fast hull with Isida, a Viking will do just as well or even better.

It 's just a matter of locking on: light hulls will die even if they try to escape as fast as possible.

The high DPS will finish them before they have the chance to escape Isida 's grip.

With heavier hulls you will mostly loose because of Isida 's self-healing.

 

Isida 's are strong: I see more Isida 's than Firebirds nowadays.

That used to be the other way round. Proof enough afaik.

Too bad so few of them will regarly heal their teamates <_<

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Too bad so few of them will regarly heal their teamates <_<

Well, the real nubs amongst the Isida players (no insult intended, there are a lot of great Isida players too)

do heal a teammate...only one though...they tend to hide behind the large heavy hull of that Vulcan player.

 

"Playing" the drip-style Isida... <_<

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

Well, the real nubs amongst the Isida players (no insult intended, there are a lot of great Isida players too)

do heal a teammate...only one though...they tend to hide behind the large heavy hull of that Vulcan player.

 

"Playing" the drip-style Isida... <_<

Yup...thats modern tanki...even at low ranks like mine.....

Or they are just dumb and play attack with M1 isida at WO3+

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

1 it is a swear word and is also considered a blasphemy.    It does not offend me but this is on the www and children play it around the world it is also against the rules.  Further more it is just unnecessary.

 

2 I am very well aware of your hours on your reporting account.

 

3 Isida is comparatively less powered

Ok....so...

 

1. Again, how is bloody a swear???Its not a bloody swear, ok? Seems your the only one that squeamish of that word...most children arnt...and the ones that are are probebly not even on the forums in the first place... <_<

 

2. If you actually aware of his hours on that account, then logically you would think that he has at least one isida alt...

So stop lieing.

 

3. What? Isida is one of the most op turrets in the game!!!! Your a .... and you havent figured that out yet....? Your even a huge isida player too.... <_<

[rayaanMALHOTRA 378]

I don't know why , but i hink the popularity of shaft is again going up , i ca now see at least one in every map apart from very small ones

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

I don't know why , but i hink the popularity of shaft is again going up , i ca now see at least one in every map apart from very small ones

agreed

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

I don't know why , but i hink the popularity of shaft is again going up , i ca now see at least one in every map apart from very small ones

Dang...iv always been wary of shafts that are high ranks...lol

 

Anyone have some uncommon tips for fighting a shaft at long range? I gotta be prepared...

[rayaanMALHOTRA 378]

Dang...iv always been wary of shafts that are high ranks...lol

 

Anyone have some uncommon tips for fighting a shaft at long range? I gotta be prepared...

yes there are two and only ways , no other thing can protect for sure 

 

1- JADE

2- swearing in the chat box :P

 

NOTHING else :)

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I don't know why , but i hink the popularity of shaft is again going up , i ca now see at least one in every map apart from very small ones

Yeah, I saw one on Noiise the other day.

Not that I've made a comeback, I wasn't back on my main, you can't prove it...  :ph34r:

[Maf 32,318]

In my opinion the actual amount of turrets in the game is pretty balanced now. Most guns are equally popular overall, maybe with the exception of Freeze being rare and Isida too popular. Sure, on some maps certain guns are more common than others, but on average they are about the same.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Isida would be much more balanced, if the self healing would not double with DP-druged-mode.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

In my opinion the actual amount of turrets in the game is pretty balanced now. Most guns are equally popular overall, maybe with the exception of Freeze being rare and Isida too popular. Sure, on some maps certain guns are more common than others, but on average they are about the same.

Not maybe.

 

Isida would be much more balanced, if the self healing would not double with DP-druged-mode.

+

[The-Operator219 1,929]

In my opinion the actual amount of turrets in the game is pretty balanced now. Most guns are equally popular overall, maybe with the exception of Freeze being rare and Isida too popular. Sure, on some maps certain guns are more common than others, but on average they are about the same.

Absolutely right, if they had one turret everybody used the game wouldn't be as interesting.

There's a reason I love seeing a variety of turrets, and I can actually say I'd rather lose to a variety of turrets as apposed to just the one weapon used by everyone.

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

Absolutely right, if they had one turret everybody used the game wouldn't be as interesting.

There's a reason I love seeing a variety of turrets, and I can actually say I'd rather lose to a variety of turrets as apposed to just the one weapon used by everyone.

There are times where i will lose a battle but not even notice it beause the battle itself was so fun and nobody was op and there were so many different combos. All the different combo kept it interesting and i never had a chance to even look at the overall score. I was just happy if my k/d was over 1.15 and if...well the basic part of games applied, aka fun

 

This is why i think its even more important that the devs work on game balence

[basenji7 1,199]

When you use Isida you're always targeted first though, at least in my experience...And its damage is quite low compared to other turrets

[HaloScorpionV2 438]

Please make a poll.

 

1. Do you think the game is balanced?

a. yes

b. no

c. indifferent

 

2. what turret do you think is overpowered?

a. isida

b. fire

c. freeze

etc.

 

3. what turret do you think is underpowered?

a. isida

b. fire

c. freeze

etc.

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

When you use Isida you're always targeted first though, at least in my experience...And its damage is quite low compared to other turrets

Iv noticed tbat too,but M0 and M1 isida are prety bad attackers. Its M2 and M3 that becomes really op....then M4 is the most op turret in my opinion because of the healing ability of teamates...

 

Id rather fight a group of 20 mammy/vulcans then fight a group of Viking/isidas.....or even hornet/isidas

[rayaanMALHOTRA 378]

In my opinion the actual amount of turrets in the game is pretty balanced now. Most guns are equally popular overall, maybe with the exception of Freeze being rare and Isida too popular. Sure, on some maps certain guns are more common than others, but on average they are about the same.

absolutely right , after a long time we can see that there is as you said game is pretty balanced now , shaft was not used that much but it has gained some popularity , as far as freeze is concerned i see it more often now specially in maps like noise , serpuhov , rio . 

 

Probably that's why new competitive playing has started taking place , if not new the certainly the tankers involving it have increased , and this is having a positive effect !

 

the people whom i played with a month ago who lost to group of 5 tankers , has advises how to tackle a situation when a competitive team joins , and that's really nice , community is watching and learning at a large scale .

 

In short i am happy :)

Edited April 17, 2016 by rayaanMALHOTRA

[rayaanMALHOTRA 378]

Yes, I've also realized that freeze is incredibly nerfed, I can you tell you this, when I shoot, I feel like I'm literally doing no damage, I'd say lower the charge but increase the damage, because its toooo long in my opinion.

Bro you are getting it wrong , freeze is not a turret that is to be used alone ,

 

1-the greatest asset of freeze is slowing the tanks down and not necessarily kill a tank , use the turret with that objective and not to kill 

 

2- If the charge is lowered and damage is increased , as suggested by you , what will be the diffrence between firebird and freeze , comparing it , firebird deals huge damage in short time and still has after burn effect ( to understand this go with a viking without 30% infront of fire m3 ) , on the otherhand when we will use freeze of our specifications the charge is lower so we will end up fast enough and even if the damage is increased it won't add up to firebird's damage plus it will not do any damage after you have finished the charge .

[NamesAreForNoobs 324]

There is a mini problem with hull balance, If you would closely look at base stats in the garage

-M0 Viking has more armor than M0 Dictator. R.I.P M0 Dictator, having less armor and speed than another hull of the same M. 

-M1 Hunter has more armor than M1 Viking, so M1 Viking is forever weak.

-M2 Viking has more armor than M2 Dictator. M2 Dictator should be classified as a type of scam.

Can you developers please alter the stats of M0-2 Medium Hulls so that one is not infinitely better than the other.