category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[r_L-E-O-P-A-R-D-2003 657]

Keep spending your parents money on the people you dont even know.

Why parents,Why not mine owns.

[Maf 32,300]

Not everything at gismo is the same as at other ranks

It's a well known fact that balance is not perfect at all ranks. This is intended that way since the same modifications of different equipment unlock at different ranks and have different prices, so it's completely logical that one gun that unlocks a few ranks later than another will be more expensive and more powerful, even though they might be the same modification. The current balance in the game is focused around M3+ modifications of equipment, since that's the ultimate point that everyone, in theory, will end up at after a while.

[Rayyan 3,415]

No tanki isn't pay to win.

[Meowmix56 174]

Yes, it is severely pay to win and increasing all the time.  Beyond question.  It isn't even disputed by the staff.  A free player would have to play for over a year to get the m4 equipment I had by marshal.  Not to mention drugs can give you multiplied stats.  Doesn't seem to bother most people, or at least enough people stick around regardless. 

[Mr.Cashier 1,622]

I don't think it has become a pay to play or Pay to Win. There still are Non-Buyers like me enjoying a Free game :D.Buyers do have an advantage but if you play this game with skill and technique you can win without even paying.

•Btw this topic should be in Game Discussion Section here [http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showforum=23]

Edited April 29, 2016 by Mr.Cashier

[WoShiNewbie 55]

Free to play, pay to win. Duh.

 

And why is this topic here?

Edited April 29, 2016 by WoShiNewbie

[redwall2000 65]

The game is kind of play to win. However, if you can't turn your turret (cough, cough, noobs with premium), then supplies and kits are useless

[Hayagriva 107]

bla bla bla - we know balance is a myth - we do nothing

[Hayagriva 107]

It's a well known fact that balance is not perfect at all ranks. This is intended that way since the same modifications of different equipment unlock at different ranks

weeee knwo we like it is make bussines run.

 

KITS unbalance game very much - m2 vs m3 turbo - before it is avalible on rank.

unbalanced - who cares.

 

Premium - unbalanced - who cares.

 

marketing polution - make problem - sold soludion - all what it is.

 

Like hammer and no paing for a long time hahahahah

[Hayagriva 107]

So as a Firebird user, sub-consciously this makes a sadistic person?  :unsure:

yesd man kil them all

all this game is rather sadistic

 

kiling all the time, check your stats man

wit a tiem you can kill a smal town hare and nobody cares

[Hayagriva 107]

So yeah, I can't tell what you're trying to say here, but my point in the previous post was simple - if you want to compare the effectiveness of any two weapons or hulls, you have to take into account more that just their base values. And my experience with using Freeze or Firebird has nothing to do with this.

 

hahahaha

another bla bla bla

HAVE TO - now you have to MU all what you do not need.

in past you could MU only power of weapon, and spend like 300-400 k crystal for full mu

now u need buy all for 1 mln to do all - nob marketing bla bla bla

 

first you write here - you can customize your tank, and his development

WHAT MU - u decide

 

now - there is no reason to use mind and tactic - just BUY CRYSTAL

and pay for this what u do not need

 

another noob move - unbalanced.

 

the most important in weapon is power

enemy is death - thats the main goal here

 

even if turet run like nob, slow like nob, stupid like nob

you can just find a place position of gun and jus exterminate, on many maps it is enough,

and it work

 

like most of vulcan players, 1 place, space bar - wait until your are death from burining

all the story

 

high power = effectivity

i checked it, i got for a low time vulcan and low mu - not more than 20

and it is extremaly kiling mashin - simply to use, zero skils

just tactice

 

POWER not other is needed in this weapons

blblblbla stas - ofcourse get than nice stater m2 and i will drag m3+ and you will say power is nothing

nob unbalance draging based on power

 

tanki noob = pretend you need balance

 

balance poligon mults

soon may days - and what - nothing - mult parada is full already

i am full of play after few minutes

 

you need go all team - all you got random play

1-3 mults who knows

die in hel - should apear when someon not going to center

[Hayagriva 107]

I also know that Firebird dose lose effectiveness in higher ranks because of paints liie Zeus though....

 

 

 

 

Now...you need to start a new account sometime before going on some rant about the game....

 

 

 

Dont ignore me on this...

And dont campare me asking you to do this to you asking the devs to change the game...

 

 

zeus is no problkem man - kil them all - problem is nob fire man - lower power

it is normal that paint reduce power - but it is weapon reduce

 

and here most of players have many ranks acc if u do not know it yet

becouse on generalissimo level is no fun - draging 100%

mult putering

and buy buy buy more

 

only some pro battles have fun, all the rest is mafia tanki mod admin domination pack

to rob a found, clan mult puters, saboteurs and baning when you do not love propaganda

 

on smaler ranks when tankers are not so much corupted game still have sence

than only pro battles and only with friends

 

all this game is unbalanced and it is source of prokectt

o do it

and make you to pay to stop this unbalance mode

pay to win

free to play

 

noob

[Hayagriva 107]

Preach!

So I was skimming through his post and I've come to the conclusion he has only used Firebird at the rank of Private and immediately switched to something that gives a more instant result. Firebird has low base damage, yes, but it's afterburn compensates.

Freeze has next to no damage, but it's Freeze effect prolongs it's inevitable demise. The reason some people dislike Firebird and Freeze is because they have slower results. But the whole point of setting someone on fire is to maximize agony and suffering. If you want quick and decisive results, please stick to Railgun, Thunder, or Hammer.

fire nob man - slow kiling nob

and other tanks rob yoru kils and score on DM

[Hayagriva 107]

Mafia man said:

For one, I'm not actually saying that you're wrong about Firebird being underpowered. I'm just saying that you're wrong in the way you came to that conclusion - by only looking at the raw damage values.

 

Raw damage - of sahft + noob scope laser - man we take all under consider :)

devs do noob all weapon what work

 

and it is not balance - i stoped use shaft

and fire is nob - after burn nob

i can use fire on whte flame

with no after burn - but more power - chusc change it in my stas man

no problem

like friz

[Maf 32,300]

OK I get it. All you want to do is complain about the game and state how "noob" everything is. You don't care about any logical arguments we give you and you just repeat the same thing over and over again, refusing to even consider changing your point of view. Sure, feel free to continue believing whatever you want, but please don't flood this section with your unnecessary posts.

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

 devs do noob all weapon what work

Ok, so if all items are nob, then doesent that mean none of them are? aka balance? 

See, your complaints double back on themselves and if everything you have said so far in the last few pages were true, then tanki would be a very very balanced game and you wouldnt be complaining...or you would.

So your own complaints are proving you wrong.

 

Also....you think firebird it just a terrible turret that should never be used....? Well, if you have played an account that was around WO1 within the past few months then you would see thats not. The way you phrase thing (complete illogical statements) implies that you know every single turrtet/hull in the game and your pro with them all.

 

And pls stop mentioning marketing stuff....it just makes your arguments even less likely to be listened to....

 

For Vulcan....well... It does require a bit of skill btw. There are several maps where iv seen it dominate in the hands of a noob,  But iv actually played with Vulcan M0, M1, and M2 and i did many many maps with it, all of which require different amounts of skill. 

If you really think Vulcan is that nooby, dont play on the common maps for it. Its that simple.

 

 

now - there is no reason to use mind and tactic - just BUY CRYSTAL

and pay for this what u do not need

Hate to break it to you..but tactics is skill...

I have a mind, and i use it. Especially when fighting buyers or just op equipment.

 

 

 

P.S. Can you pls start to multi-quote? And also learn to use spoilers...

[The-Operator219 1,929]

bla bla bla - we know balance is a myth - we do nothing

 

 

fire nob man - slow kiling nob

and other tanks rob yoru kils and score on DM

Hey guess what...

Lean in real close. Closer...

 

That Wasp-Smoky that kill-steals, is a Wasp in a place where heavy hulls are the norm.

Kill it.

 

 

Care to continue with your counter-arguments that could be thought up by a twelve year old?

[Hayagriva 107]

MU sale is noob unbalanced

No sale for generalissimo and other who no buy.

 

Racism.

Not all players have fun.

Tanki noob balance sale.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

MU sale is noob unbalanced

No sale for generalissimo and other who no buy.

 

Racism.

Not all players have fun.

Tanki noob balance sale.

Do you have custom-made refrigerator magnets you throw at the side of a moving truck?

Jeez, I can understand not having perfect grammar but it just looks like you put everything through a blender!

[cosmicdragster55 20]

Well I guess it seems as if Tanki keeps on getting harder and harder and harder every single daaaaay I mean it's pretty annoying I can't even play on this acc and get a crystal want to know why I'll tell you so many buyers they all have the best freakin equipments and I'm still stuck with the same fffffing equipments the weak ones I mean look Tanki used to be filled with pros that aren't buyers and look now so many buyers they go crazy for everything I mean look they get annoying because you capture their flag once be they get really sensitive and use so many drugs just to kill you that's all I mean look there is the flag take it and go you waste your time killing us cause your raged well good for you you got protection on you just take the flag and go I mean like if we aren't non druggers it would take us 2 min just to kill you for you to kill us it would take you and your drugging self just 10 seconds and now look Tanki is crowded with buyers that suck and don't know how to use a strong equipment well like some noobs who have shaft go up close to a mammoth and camps for 10 seconds waiting to kill the player with mammoth but like look there are some noobs I met in Tanki that say they better than me so I played with them in a pro battle with drugs disabled and look at what happened they lose in a 1v1 when I played them in a regular 1v1 they spent all their time using drugs to kill me and then after the battle they say oh your the biggest noob I beat you with skills and now look in Tanki en3 is filled with buyers can't Tanki atleast create a server for buyers I mean atleast there will be a server available for buyers and it would be a private server only available for buyers not non buyers I mean that is smart that could solve the problem of buyers always spending their time doing something useless in battles

[r_L-E-O-P-A-R-D-2003 657]

xD Funny story but sad ^_^ :wacko: :unsure:

Edited April 30, 2016 by r_L-E-O-P-A-R-D-2003

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

I have all garage M3, and some equipment in M4. I buy the 1500 drugs kit with the crystals I earn in battle.

 

I never bought crystals, except in 2013 one time to get Isida lol.

 

And I can afford to spend some money in Tanki. But it's not fun.

 

Not all players with strong equipments are buyer.

 

Btw, your idea of separate servers is bad imo.

[r_L-E-O-P-A-R-D-2003 657]

m4 vs m3 that moment B)

[name-lost 184]

Play XP/BP no druggers there  :P

[Hayagriva 107]

No mu sale for upgrade turret and huls is completly out of balance.

 

Like said papa da gi.