category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[tankpro_is_here 5]

now those playing tanki having rail and isida are not able as they used to be. now hammer and smoky ruling this game.

[Maf 32,300]

hello guys,

i have gismo account in which i have m4 rail and m4 isida and before changes in turrets features they were good but now even m3 smoky power is increased way better than other turrets. it not only reload faster but also blow away shot of rail and hit isida from far and by circling around and now isida and rail useless against smoky. so i request tankionline to fix this unequal balance because it ruining the game.

Topic merged

[tankpro_is_here 5]

Balancing the game is a lot harder than it may seem. There have been numerous major changes to the turrets, hulls and paints over the past few years and we all have different opinions about them. Equipment parameters will continue to be adjusted in the future as well, since various new updates affect popularity and usability of certain guns. This topic has been created so that players can express their opinions about the way game balance is at the moment and how it should be improved.

 

Major game balance updates since 2012:

 

Update 114 - Rebalance

Update 205 - New Physics

Update 254 - First adjustment to parameters

Update 270 - Second adjustment to parameters

Update 296 - Shaft's laser

Update 299 - Addition of Hammer and new aiming mechanism

Update 310 - Weakening impact force of Shaft, Smoky and Railgun

Update 317 - Changes to Twins, Firebird and Ricochet

Update 331 - Increase in armour for medium and heavy hulls

Update 347 - Third adjustment to parameters

Update 354 - Fourth adjustment to parameters

Update 355 - Changes to Firebird, Freeze and Isida

 

 

Feel free to post any suggestions and complaints regarding balance here but just make sure you don't violate forum rules :)

but now parameters of smoky and hammer are better than others in short range battle making isida twin other usless. even i have rail m3 25/50 upgraded but other player having smoky or hammer hit me first because i know their shot will off my aim but when i shoot rail they again shoot so reloading in hammer or smoky is too high and why rail take time to shoot wher in other turret time u press space it hit.

[tankpro_is_here 5]

Topic merged

atleast give notification when u merge, i was looking for my topic in forum

[tankpro_is_here 5]

i have gismo account in other id and this really bad smoky is killing everyone with double damage with its super high speed reloading, its deflecting aim of rail, and now its damage impact. isida rail thunder vulcan against smoky uselles. so i m leaving tanki online because its not fair in turret parameter

Edited June 22, 2016 by tankpro_is_here

[Maf 32,300]

atleast give notification when u merge, i was looking for my topic in forum

I quoted your post, so you should have received a notification saying "Mafioso quoted a post you made". The setting to get notifications for when others quote your posts should be enabled by default, but check your settings to make sure it's on. Unfortunately at the moment we have no way of adding a separate type of notification specifically for merging topics.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

First of all:

Players playing xp bp in none pro battles because they dont have m2 is the worst excuse ever. They should find players who want xp bp and creats private battle. Its courtesy to allow the creator to request the other players to do something but as long as he is not willing to invest, let the game be diverse.

 

Only freeze mammoth!!!!!! Only!!!! How many of those who request XP BP will listen? Very little. Players act as if its holy to play XP BP. The truth is that its not right for them to demand players to not use the game to its fullest all because they dont want to. Pro pass is designed for custom designing your gameplay to an extent

Edited June 22, 2016 by A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N

[tankpro_is_here 5]

I quoted your post, so you should have received a notification saying "Mafioso quoted a post you made". The setting to get notifications for when others quote your posts should be enabled by default, but check your settings to make sure it's on. Unfortunately at the moment we have no way of adding a separate type of notification specifically for merging topics.

u did not replied to my other questions i  asked?

[Maf 32,300]

u did not replied to my other questions i  asked?

What questions?

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

u did not replied to my other questions i  asked?

smoky and hammer are far from OP.

Game balance is good except shaft and its lasrer

[donaldo9000 1,342]

^What about Thunder M3?

[Maf 32,300]

^What about Thunder M3?

M3 is very powerful on the gold star ranks (Brig up to General), but then gets very weak compared to other M3 guns. So in a PRO battle without MUs for generalissimos an M3 Thunder will lose to most other M3 guns.

 

M4 is good though, but it does have a lot of popular protection paints that make it weaker.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

O mo gawd!!!! Tunder m3 es tooo OP

 

Thunder m3 is underpowered.... like it should be

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

i have gismo account in which i have m4 rail and m4 isida and before changes in turrets features they were good but now even m3 smoky power is increased way better than other turrets.

 

Smoky M4's reload time (1second) is shorter then the Railguns Charge-up time (1.1 seconds).

Against a skilled smoky pilot a railgunner will not make a single hit.. even if the railgunner waits to let the smoky shot first.

 

 

i have gismo account in other id and this really bad smoky is killing everyone with double damage with its super high speed reloading, its deflecting aim of rail, and now its damage impact. isida rail thunder vulcan against smoky uselles. so i m leaving tanki online because its not fair in turret parameter

 

What turrets do actually work against smoky?

 

All closerangers can be outmanovered (smoky keeps distance while shooting); the midrangers can be deflected; so only sniping on long distance works well. Suprisingly a Railgun performs formidable on this task :P

 

When you charge it up behind a wall, pop out in the moment before the shot flies.. you have a real chance.

On the other hand, players that have enabled "dynamic lightning" will see your railgun charge-up even if you are behind a wall. That is a real problem.. you can not suprise-shot them.

Edited June 22, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

First of all:

Players playing xp bp in none pro battles because they dont have m2 is the worst excuse ever. They should find players who want xp bp and creats private battle. Its courtesy to allow the creator to request the other players to do something but as long as he is not willing to invest, let the game be diverse.

Only freeze mammoth!!!!!! Only!!!! How many of those who request XP BP will listen? Very little. Players act as if its holy to play XP BP. The truth is that its not right for them to demand players to not use the game to its fullest all because they dont want to. Pro pass is designed for custom designing your gameplay to an extent

 

Thats a very good point, but ,any people do like xp/bp alot, so thht is way different than saying "everyone freeze/mammy" :P

 

And many people do have xp/bp turret/hull combo anyways, so its not like there is a very small amount of people who can do it. As to why they dont make a PRO battle....well...thats because they probably alwas use xp/bp combo, whic is not very effective in battles. Irony. :P

 

smoky and hammer are far from OP.

Game balance is good except shaft and its lasrer

Thats not true at all. Differwnt ranks are meant to have different items to be better/worse then. Smoky M1 is insanly op when it comes oit, but becomes kinda on the edge of underpowed and normal after WO4. Firebird is the same.

 

Ofc, there are some turrets like Hammer and Vulcan that are pretty op at all ranks

O mo gawd!!!! Tunder m3 es tooo OP

Thunder m3 is underpowered.... like it should be

Like it should be? What???

Smoky M4's reload time (1second) is shorter then the Railguns Charge-up time (1.1 seconds).

Against a skilled smoky pilot a railgunner will not make a single hit.. even if the railgunner waits to let the smoky shot first.

 

 

 

 

What turrets do actually work against smoky?

 

All closerangers can be outmanovered (smoky keeps distance while shooting); the midrangers can be deflected; so only sniping on long distance works well. Suprisingly a Railgun performs formidable on this task :P

When you charge it up behind a wall, pop out in the moment before the shot flies.. you have a real chance.

On the other hand, players that have enabled "dynamic lightning" will see your railgun charge-up even if you are behind a wall. That is a real problem.. you can not suprise-shot them.

Sadly, even M1 Smoky starts to become like that.....in fact, i nearly flipped a Wasp M0 yesterday on my alt, which has Savage Kit and i did like 5 mu on each item......

 

 

Because smoky is so versitile, it doesnt have ANY weaknesses really.....(im cool with that as long as im the only Smoky in the battle though :P)

 

Edit: Wait, Dynamic Lighting does that??? Wow, i could really use that to my advantage :D

 

(Especialy in my Savage alt.....I hate railguns in that account....cause Wasp SUCKS....lol)

Edited June 22, 2016 by MrCheezyPotato

[DageLV 940]

Hi! Freeze should have better damage than firebird without burning effect.

No! Freeze wont become stronger than firebird.

Firebird still will have backdmg what will deal damage and freeze wont have it.

 

Just make freeze balanced.

[Maf 32,300]

Hi! Freeze should have better damage than firebird without burning effect.

No! Freeze wont become stronger than firebird.

Firebird still will have backdmg what will deal damage and freeze wont have it.

 

Just make freeze balanced.

Topic merged

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

Hi! Freeze should have better damage than firebird without burning effect.

No! Freeze wont become stronger than firebird.

Firebird still will have backdmg what will deal damage and freeze wont have it.

 

Just make freeze balanced.

At M0 thats how it is, sp logically it should stay like that throughout the modifications....but i guess it doesnt......ill have to check today...

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Hammer is not op!!!!!!

[omarhero1 401]

Even M4 hammer isnt OP at all, M4 Vulcan is the only OP turret IMO

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Vulcan isnt OP!!!!!!

[The-Operator219 1,929]

No, people just haven't developed anti-Vulcan tactics.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

As a wasp I managed to kill it.... both of us drugging ofcourse.

seriously Guys!!! There is no OP turret!!! There is only OP teamwork and OP tactics.

[DageLV 940]

Even M4 hammer isnt OP at all, M4 Vulcan is the only OP turret IMO

Hammer m4 idk if its op but it isnt UP like thunder or freeze (Smoky m1 can do 1 shot to hornet m2 with premium paint while thunder needs 3 shots)

 

Vulcan isnt OP!!!!!!

Next time before you say it, unequip graffiti paint.

It can throw wasp far enought. It can even push mammoth m2

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Hammer m4 idk if its op but it isnt UP like thunder or freeze (Smoky m1 can do 1 shot to hornet m2 with premium paint while thunder needs 3 shots)

 

 

Next time before you say it, unequip graffiti paint.

It can throw wasp far enought. It can even push mammoth m2

Freeze is not UP...

 

I was wearing savanah