category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[george_ace 57]

perhaps we see only one out of every four burning effect ticks .. but the other three still take effect.

 

Aftrerburn is definitly down after that patch, but OTOH it still does register kills. I don't feel that it's useless, rather mush less useful.

 

 I know this is not the case; I have been shot by Firebird M2s and even M3s a lot since the update. Even if I squint my eyes and look very closely, it is very hard to see the burn damage after my opponent stopped firing. Burn is basically non-existent even at the M4 level.

[dan146_tanker 770]

 I know this is not the case; I have been shot by Firebird M2s and even M3s a lot since the update. Even if I squint my eyes and look very closely, it is very hard to see the burn damage after my opponent stopped firing. Burn is basically non-existent even at the M4 level.

Your saying the burn for firebird is non-existing...  Firebird cannot kill anyone behind another tank. And its reloading is reduced. That is all. I'm pretty sure and M4 firebird would be strong.. I mean it is M4...

 

 

[LittleWillie 3,199]

 I know this is not the case; I have been shot by Firebird M2s and even M3s a lot since the update. Even if I squint my eyes and look very closely, it is very hard to see the burn damage after my opponent stopped firing. Burn is basically non-existent even at the M4 level.

Well all I can tell you is when using my m1 Fire do I see little red numbers followed by the enemy tank going boom. But it no wher elike before when I could swoop through a pack of the enemy and run off while in my rear-view mirror my victims contemplate imminent doom.

[NoobTanker18 63]

My Firebird M1 does the job

[BLASTER872 1,892]

 I know this is not the case; I have been shot by Firebird M2s and even M3s a lot since the update. Even if I squint my eyes and look very closely, it is very hard to see the burn damage after my opponent stopped firing. Burn is basically non-existent even at the M4 level.

Uh, you're using Hunter M2, I felt the burn effect with pre-balance Mammoth M2 (I stopped using it after)

 

burn damage looks like nothing to you, but without a mine i'd be dead because of it

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Burn effect is still there - I still die after I've killed enemy Firebirds, but it happens much less often than before the change.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

your temperature increase was cut in half.

You need to fire on an opponent 2x the time then before, in order to heat him up enough, to deal the same afterburn damage later on.

 

Still the game does not deliver as much burning damage as it should (if the damage counters are valid)

[george_ace 57]

Your saying the burn for firebird is non-existing...  Firebird cannot kill anyone behind another tank. And its reloading is reduced. That is all. I'm pretty sure and M4 firebird would be strong.. I mean it is M4...

 

 

I've seen Firebird M3's and M4's in action because I regularly play players much higher ranked than myself. (I enter Generalissimo battles sometimes so I know what it's like.) My own Firebird M2 is upgraded 33/50 so it is much stronger than the stock M2. Even then I struggle to do anything to players at my own rank due to the massive nerf. I am having trouble imagining how awful a stock Firebird M2 must be at my rank if I am having a hard time with my own equipment.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Freeze and Fire don't have penetration power anymore? Was this announced or included in the parameter change list?

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Freeze and Fire don't have penetration power anymore? Was this announced or included in the parameter change list?

I saw a video of it, but i dont see it working. I hid behind a mammoth and still took damage from the firebird attacker

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Freeze and Fire don't have penetration power anymore? Was this announced or included in the parameter change list?

It was shown in the V-log.  They no longer have penetration, but the smallest bit of nitrogen or napalm skimming your tank will cause you to take max damage.  So SpaceMango probably wasn't completely behind the mammoth, in relation to the firebird.  Now the short-rangers have to be more skilled about using their cone angle. to hit two or more tanks at once.  It's actually not that bad, but it takes good control of your turret and hull.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

It was shown in the V-log.  They no longer have penetration, but the smallest bit of nitrogen or napalm skimming your tank will cause you to take max damage.  So SpaceMango probably wasn't completely behind the mammoth, in relation to the firebird.  Now the short-rangers have to be more skilled about using their cone angle. to hit two or more tanks at once.  It's actually not that bad, but it takes good control of your turret and hull.

I was perfectly behind cover behind the Mammy.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I was perfectly behind cover behind the Mammy.

Well in the battles I have played I have not done damage to players behind other players..so I don't know what happened with that situation.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Well in the battles I have played I have not done damage to players behind other players..so I don't know what happened with that situation.

I dont bother with hiding anymore, I just try to weaken the attacker as much as I can.

 

I love being at a higher elevation so i can shoot an oncoming player. when they speed up the ramp/hill i will drive into them to get them on top of me and shoot them as they go over, drive forward, turn my turret around and shoot again, no damage done to me.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I dont bother with hiding anymore, I just try to weaken the attacker as much as I can.

 

I love being at a higher elevation so i can shoot an oncoming player. when they speed up the ramp/hill i will drive into them to get them on top of me and shoot them as they go over, drive forward, turn my turret around and shoot again, no damage done to me.

Noobs.  Why didn't they drop a mine or controlled their tank better?

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Noobs.  Why didn't they drop a mine or controlled their tank better?

Dunno, but it's so funny.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Noobs.  Why didn't they drop a mine or controlled their tank better?

I also implement the whole circling the opponent while shooting thing with whatever turret I use...except railgun. I camp with that. I'f im being shot at and near death i'll drive off a ledge to the ground below and shoot the attacker as the come down while ducking behind cover where i will use my peek-a-boo tactic to bring down the attacker. Normally what I do is i go to enemy base drugging and waste as many players as possible till im near death then back off till i find a repair kit, then go back for more :D

[austen_pierce 1,948]

I've also found it very effective to throw into reverse as soon as I land. Very few players are prepared and thus surprised to land on top or in front of you. At righ ranks that moment of disorientation is all you need.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

I've also found it very effective to throw into reverse as soon as I land. Very few players are prepared and thus surprised to land on top or in front of you. At righ ranks that moment of disorientation is all you need.

Thats what i do! Then shake mah way behind cover and sneak away :D

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Thats what i do! Then shake mah way behind cover and sneak away :D

Usually better to go on the offensive. Unless you're dealing with protections and double armor your turret just can't beat.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Usually better to go on the offensive. Unless you're dealing with protections and double armor your turret just can't beat.

I just do what i feel is the best plan of action :P

Edited November 4, 2016 by Epic_Space_Mango18

[Samer1212 1]

the new firebird is broken now it cant damage many tanks at once u should return the old one or massively increase damage

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

the new firebird is broken now it cant damage many tanks at once u should return the old one or massively increase damage

Wait for m1 and m3 alterations-maybe they will bring back pen or burn.  Because I can tell you the damage for firebird is a bit OP but the burn is almost gone..

[dan146_tanker 770]

Ok so lets get one thing straight. Tanki basically nerfed popular weapons and made unpopular weapons stronger.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Ok so lets get one thing straight. Tanki basically nerfed popular weapons and made unpopular weapons stronger.

Somewhat. Smoky is popular and got stronger in my opinion. they only weakened the critical hit because the raised the chances of them to a flat 1/5 shots, higher than an M3 MU'ed to M4