category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Hunter <-> Viking: swap back via alteration.
 
I've summed up an idea for a hull alteration that exchanges Hunter with Viking stats (and vice versa).
Who of you would be interrested in that? If yes (and pls only if yes) then feel free to support the idea there

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Hunter <-> Viking: swap back via alteration.

 

I've summed up an idea for a hull alteration that exchanges Hunter with Viking stats (and vice versa).

Who of you would be interrested in that? If yes (and pls only if yes) then feel free to support the idea there

No way I would pay for that. Tanki are frauds for changing vikings stats in the first place.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

No way I would pay for that. Tanki are frauds for changing vikings stats in the first place.

The thing is that it's optional.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Hunter <-> Viking: swap back via alteration.

 

I've summed up an idea for a hull alteration that exchanges Hunter with Viking stats (and vice versa).

Who of you would be interrested in that? If yes (and pls only if yes) then feel free to support the idea there

I had another set of alterations rather like that. but it makes it more unique. Posted over there. :)

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

^ saw it, liked it ;)

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Hunter <-> Viking: swap back via alteration.

 

I've summed up an idea for a hull alteration that exchanges Hunter with Viking stats (and vice versa).

Who of you would be interrested in that? If yes (and pls only if yes) then feel free to support the idea there

This alteration already exists in the form of: buytwo hulls if you want the capabilities of two hulls.

 

There is no way Tanki is going to allow a cheap alteration be an exact substitute for the purchase of an entire second hull.

 

Especially since the first hull's MU status would be used twice in effect. 

 

This idea is so DOA.

Edited December 29, 2016 by LittleWillie

[VYAZ_PRO 3]

Isida is tooooo unOP the Isidapolacypse mde isida very bad.

Isida is my favourite gun after smoky and rail.

Range is too less and damage/heal ratio is especially low . 

Healing teammates is twice as long as killing enemies .

Please do something about it

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

This alteration already exists in the form of: buytwo hulls if you want the capabilities of two hulls.

There is no way Tanki is going to allow a cheap alteration be an exact substitute for the purchase of an entire second hull.

Especially since the first hull's MU status would be used twice in effect. 

This idea is so DOA.

I do not understand DOA.

 

Actually.. tnaki ripped the players off that have invested a lot into an upgraded Viking of Hunter.. and wanted what they paid for. I think you see that this alteration would be a way in the middle. to please them (crystal sink) as well as the players.

I doubt that any player with an M4 viking, worth about 1.1 Mio crystals, would start to buid up an M4 Hunter now. He would just stick to it's cruxed Viking and be anoyed - every single hour of gameplay.

 

If tanki wanna stick to that balance they have now, this would be the way forward.

[redwall2000 65]

All of us isida players were devastated after the last rebalance that happened, minimizing its self heal to a mere 10 health points. I mean come on, how will that help in any way. The only way for an isida to attack is by sneaking up or drugging. It cannot physically do a one v one with any turret without getting demolished.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I do not understand DOA.

 

Actually.. tnaki ripped the players off that have invested a lot into an upgraded Viking of Hunter.. and wanted what they paid for. I think you see that this alteration would be a way in the middle. to please them (crystal sink) as well as the players.

I doubt that any player with an M4 viking, worth about 1.1 Mio crystals, would start to buid up an M4 Hunter now. He would just stick to it's cruxed Viking and be anoyed - every single hour of gameplay.

 

If tanki wanna stick to that balance they have now, this would be the way forward.

It would only work if the alteration was ONLY available to those players that purchased Viking and Hunter BEFORE the re-balance.

 

Otherwise people would buy Viking/Hunter and the alteration, (which would be cheaper than buying the other hull) and basically have two hulls for less than the proper price.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

^ this would be acceptable :p

[dan146_tanker 770]

Everyone who thinks the game is in balance, raise your hand.

[Maf 32,300]

All of us isida players were devastated after the last rebalance that happened, minimizing its self heal to a mere 10 health points. I mean come on, how will that help in any way. The only way for an isida to attack is by sneaking up or drugging. It cannot physically do a one v one with any turret without getting demolished.

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[LittleWillie 3,199]

All of us isida players were devastated after the last rebalance that happened, minimizing its self heal to a mere 10 health points. I mean come on, how will that help in any way. The only way for an isida to attack is by sneaking up or drugging. It cannot physically do a one v one with any turret without getting demolished.

 

I kill other tanks 1:1 all the time.

 

I do not understand DOA.

 

Actually.. tnaki ripped the players off that have invested a lot into an upgraded Viking of Hunter.. and wanted what they paid for. I think you see that this alteration would be a way in the middle. to please them (crystal sink) as well as the players.

I doubt that any player with an M4 viking, worth about 1.1 Mio crystals, would start to buid up an M4 Hunter now. He would just stick to it's cruxed Viking and be anoyed - every single hour of gameplay.

 

If tanki wanna stick to that balance they have now, this would be the way forward.

Let's say this was in the game and I choose to use it.  Let's say it costs double the m2 turret alterations, 200,000 Cr. I buy it tomorrow for 100,000 Cr on sale.

 

LittleWillie now owns an m2_18/50.  Viking  I use this MU sale and others to push it up to 50/50 .

 

I now go to my garage and click on my alteration button. I now own a hunter also MUed to 50/50 a funbctional m3 ...for a cost of 100k.

 

But I'm not done. I level up and claim my "free" m3 Viking. I MU it up to 50/50 eventually. Now I own a 2nd m4 hull all for a mere 100k ... or less than 10% of the cost it'd take ot buy the thing.

 

If you think the devs are going to put in such a system be my guest. But they ain't, 

 

The EULA f this game and every otjher one clearly says the owners can re-program it however they like whenever they like. They do not owe anyone any protion of a free hull.  Since the change there have ben several sales, events, and special larger rewards. 99% o the players have adapted.

 

I didn't like the way the hulls were so swapped but gameplay has shown me the fears were worse than the reality. I adapted. 

Edited December 30, 2016 by LittleWillie

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

And what's the advantage if you own both? none.

In M3 you gain no access to additional tactics, no access to more health, nothing.

 

I would fully understand you if I would talking about turning a wasp into a titan, as this would offer a total different gameplay.

Or if you could turn a Railgun into a Striker turret and back as you wish.

 

But the gameplay with Viking and Hunter is raterh simmilar.. just the handling is different. So what would be my advantage if I have access to both stat sets? I can see none.

 

But if this is really perceived as unfair, then we could also have a model to pay those 50k if I may exchange my viking for a hunter with the same Mu level. This concern is all about the handling of the hull.. but handling is the thing you doo all the time when you use it.

Edited December 29, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[wolverine848 13,097]

So... a Striker can kill a Titan of same M-level with one salvo?  That's crazy OP.  :o :unsure: :wacko: :blink:

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

my titan M3 +10mu usualy survives the salve.. and the Strikers were M3 with aprox the same MU level. I assume not all rockets hit 100% (so I get only splash) or the Striker pilot had bad luck with the random damage of his rockets. And that happens on a map like polygon, where they have no long way to go.

 

Even though I lose 95% of my Titan's health, this is ok. It is not sooo often, that they manage to lock on + hit the rockets. You get a feeling for the time they need to lock onto you, and you can dodge in time.

Edited December 30, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[LittleWillie 3,199]

And what's the advantage if you own both? none.

In M3 you gain no access to additional tactics, no access to more health, nothing.

 

I would fully understand you if I would talking about turning a wasp into a titan, as this would offer a total different gameplay.

Or if you could turn a Railgun into a Striker turret and back as you wish.

 

But the gameplay with Viking and Hunter is raterh simmilar.. just the handling is different. So what would be my advantage if I have access to both stat sets? I can see none.

 

But if this is really perceived as unfair, then we could also have a model to pay those 50k if I may exchange my viking for a hunter with the same Mu level. This concern is all about the handling of the hull.. but handling is the thing you doo all the time when you use it.

It's simple game economics. They are not going to program in an intentional loophole in the game's Crystal economy. I cannot put it better than:

 

IMO,  DOA. 

[Tani_S 736]

my titan M3 +10mu usualy survives the salve.. and the Strikers were M3 with aprox the same MU level. I assume not all rockets hit 100% (so I get only splash) or the Striker pilot had bad luck with the random damage of his rockets. And that happens on a map like polygon, where they have no long way to go.

 

Even though I lose 95% of my Titan's health, this is ok. It is not sooo often, that they manage to lock on + hit the rockets. You get a feeling for the time they need to lock onto you, and you can dodge in time.

So do you like your new Titan?

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

So do you like your new Titan?

 

It works well, I've nothing to complain about.

If i compare tit to a Mammut M3 (which I also had the chance to drive) then imho the benefits of the Titan outweight it's disadvantages very well.

Edited December 31, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[DageLV 940]

Do another rebalance. All what i see when joining battles is hight ranks VS low rankers or druggers vs non-druggers and almsot all battles are 1-sided and if you join battle in loosing side you will loose...

Tanki balance is messed up and its not fun to play this game. When i TRY to make TO video im searching for map to play for severeal hours until i find something what might be balanced battle...

 

Tanki is more unbalanced than ever before ive seen in 7 years of playing tanki.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

It works well, I've nothing to complain about.

If i compare tit to a Mammut M3 (which I also had the chance to drive) then imho the benefits of the Titan outweight it's disadvantages very well.

Seeing you with Titan and Twins was truly shocking. :lol:

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

Thunder is UP

 

It needsa  boost. I think 150 dmg + on all models, and 10-15 metres more range should make it balanced. Im waiting for some silly person to move this topic to a place noone will read it.

[Maf 32,300]

Do another rebalance. All what i see when joining battles is hight ranks VS low rankers or druggers vs non-druggers and almsot all battles are 1-sided and if you join battle in loosing side you will loose...

Tanki balance is messed up and its not fun to play this game. When i TRY to make TO video im searching for map to play for severeal hours until i find something what might be balanced battle...

 

Tanki is more unbalanced than ever before ive seen in 7 years of playing tanki.

Topic merged

 

Won't happen. Developers said that they won't do another major rebalance with refund of turrets and hulls. The 2012 refund was necessary because parameters of all turrets and hulls were changed drastically, while nowadays any changes are relatively minor and do not completely rework the equipment.

 

Besides, you're talking about the use of supplies. What does that have to do with the rebalance anyway?

[Maf 32,300]

It needsa  boost. I think 150 dmg + on all models, and 10-15 metres more range should make it balanced. Im waiting for some silly person to move this topic to a place noone will read it.

Topic merged