category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[wolverine848 13,097]

11 hours ago, Warpriest said:

While unlike those turrets, the Devs have over a month of "early access" to assess the situation. "Tesla is OP" is a clear fact right from the beginning. You see people complain about it in every single public channel since day one.

I can only think of two possibility causing that. The Devs are extremely ignorant. Or the Devs are trying their very best to milk from their favorite money maker.

It took two years for them to "fix" hornet OD.  And that "fix" spawned Status Effects.

Good luck.

[DeXaLiT 9]

What do you think guys? Is Tesla too overpowered? 
In my point of view it is and it should be nerfed as soon as possible. 

[Towns 574]

My take on game balance:

 

Firebird and Freeze - Why is the damage on crit hits so exceedingly high? If they have supercharge + Defender/Booster they're straight up unstoppable, come on. 

Isida - it's fine where it is at the moment, except that vampire nanobots players are annoying to play against.

Hammer - Blunderbuss is working intended but still quite bad towards the game balance. Meanwhile with Slugger, why is the range so large? Also, where are the downsides? (Same with status effect augments for Hammer and in general)

Rico: It's working as intended, although Viking Rico players (or Hornet Plasma Torch players) are very annoying to play against, especially if they have OD ready/active.

Smoky: It's fine where it is, but Autocannon is way too annoying for my taste. Critical damage for autocannon should be nerfed IMO.

Thunder: It's fine where it is at the moment, no need for any changes at the moment IMO.

Rail: Why does this exist in its current form? It has exceedingly high crit damage and crit rate. I mean, doing 1600 dmg roughly 50% of the time is just mad (and I don't want to use Defender), even its reload doesn't make up for it. Nerfing the crit rate by 50% of its current crit rate (to 25%) would be a deserved nerf IMO.

Vulcan: It's not nearly as OP as it was before now, since Tesla exists and the fact that more people have Armadillo make it more OP IMO.

Tesla: This is the reason why I play Genshin Impact now instead of Tanki. Tesla has 900 damage a shot with 0.9 sec delay between shots, and that's only at Mk3. It also has a 25 metre range (also at Mk3), which may not seem like much, but it's still a lot considering Isida's range (and the fact that chain lightning exists which makes the range even larger). Nerf its damage and range and it'll be good IMO.

Gauss: It's good where it is right now, just that its status effect augments are terrifying, because you could AP/EMP lock people. Maybe nerf the duration of those status effects and it'll be fine.

Shaft: The reload buff was uncalled for, it literally makes heavy capacitors have a 4 second reload between shots, which is extremely overpowered. After the reload time buff gets reverted or nerfed harder, then it isn't fine IMO. 

Magnum: 2 shot enemies, the reload nerf was worth it IMO although it is still powerful.

B0-NK: We don't talk about that here.

Terminator: Same as above.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

3 minutes ago, Towns said:

Shaft: The reload buff was uncalled for, it literally makes heavy capacitors have a 4 second reload between shots, which is extremely overpowered. After the reload time buff gets reverted or nerfed harder, then it isn't fine IMO. 

6 seconds is fine as a Shaft main. As it does render dynamic HC possible without completely depending on camping and being overpowered.

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Just now, PirateSpider said:

I got a better idea for gauss. Remove it.

Good point XD

 

We actually already had Gauss in the game for over a decade lol.

 

A Gauss cannon (aka Coilgun) is literally 99% the same thing as a Railgun....it just uses Coils instead of Rails to power the projectile but both weapons are meant to utilize electromagnetism to fire an ultra-high-speed projectile that deals heavy kinetic damage on impact.

 

So in a way, Gauss is just a repeat of Railgun...but fused with Striker and Thunder mechanics.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

29 minutes ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

Good point XD

 

We actually already had Gauss in the game for over a decade lol.

 

A Gauss cannon (aka Coilgun) is literally 99% the same thing as a Railgun....it just uses Coils instead of Rails to power the projectile but both weapons are meant to utilize electromagnetism to fire an ultra-high-speed projectile that deals heavy kinetic damage on impact.

 

So in a way, Gauss is just a repeat of Railgun...but fused with Striker and Thunder mechanics.

Basically a hybrid along with magnums splash radius for sniping.

[Cleric 1,385]

For me the main issue of Shaft is the inconsistence of where the laser is pointing and when it hits you. I don't know is it because of the ping (mine is around 100, not even close to be bad), or is it buggy. A lot of time, the Shaft is pointing the opposite direction of where I am and all the sudden I got one shot?

I literally watched the laser "teleport" to me many many times. What's point of having a laser then?

[PirateSpider 1,489]

1 hour ago, Warpriest said:

For me the main issue of Shaft is the inconsistence of where the laser is pointing and when it hits you. I don't know is it because of the ping (mine is around 100, not even close to be bad), or is it buggy. A lot of time, the Shaft is pointing the opposite direction of where I am and all the sudden I got one shot?

I literally watched the laser "teleport" to me many many times. What's point of having a laser then?

Yeah. Not just when encountering shafts but also playing as a shaft encountering someone up close and trying to snipe them away and getting the kill. Some of them, I feel like I shouldn't have gotten that kill since the enemy out ran my crosshairs a split second before I released the space bar.

[Namir 340]

7 hours ago, FrozenRailgun said:

6 seconds is fine as a Shaft main. As it does render dynamic HC possible without completely depending on camping and being overpowered.

true

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

8 hours ago, FrozenRailgun said:

6 seconds is fine as a Shaft main. As it does render dynamic HC possible without completely depending on camping and being overpowered.

What irks me is that you're so adamant on reworking Shaft to have HC be the dynamic sniper, when the augment literally made for dynamic sniping is right there waiting for you to use it. 

[fire_shoter 555]

11 hours ago, Towns said:

Magnum: 2 shot enemies, the reload nerf was worth it IMO although it is still powerful.

( I don't think so )

Magnum is nerfed totally.

+3 sec for reload and + 3 sec for amplification for only 1745 damage

+With viking overdrive it is real trash now, too slow

+Stopped using it because of this

+Don't even use protection against it anymore

Edited August 11, 2021 by fire_shoter

[cool12345 123]

Tesla (Also known as "Bug Zappers!") are so powerful that the rest of us are just Bugs waiting to get Zapped!  Way too much power!  

[Frylock 1,617]

8 hours ago, Warpriest said:

For me the main issue of Shaft is the inconsistence of where the laser is pointing and when it hits you. I don't know is it because of the ping (mine is around 100, not even close to be bad), or is it buggy. A lot of time, the Shaft is pointing the opposite direction of where I am and all the sudden I got one shot?

I literally watched the laser "teleport" to me many many times. What's point of having a laser then?

Have you also encountered were the shafts laser doesn't go all the way across the map as well?  Its another annoying bug. I don't know if its a bug or not.

[Namir 340]

The tesla long range augment is op

[Namir 340]

1 hour ago, cool12345 said:

Tesla (Also known as "Bug Zappers!") are so powerful that the rest of us are just Bugs waiting to get Zapped!  Way too much power!  

[Benefactor 6,888]

12 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

Have you also encountered were the shafts laser doesn't go all the way across the map as well?  Its another annoying bug. I don't know if its a bug or not.

Which map(s)? I get beams on me in Temple and Highways. Then the next thing I know is I am respawning.

[Frylock 1,617]

3 minutes ago, Benefactor said:

Which map(s)? I get beams on me in Temple and Highways. Then the next thing I know is I am respawning.

The laser doesn't meet all the way in larger maps like berlin. But I don't know if this bug happens on pc im usually on mobile. 

 

 

[Namir 340]

2 hours ago, MysticBlood said:

Have you also encountered were the shafts laser doesn't go all the way across the map as well?  Its another annoying bug. I don't know if its a bug or not.

The be honest I hate shaft 

When you use your dictator overdrive he just clicks double damage and kills you

[MUG-of-War 6]

Dear developers!

Firstly, please buff ricochet back to 400 damage per shot. Or make it even 500 if you may. Please stop nerfing it. It's becoming no fun as a result of you being hell bent on nerfing it. 

Secondly, what's the point of that gun if you are giving other guns same characteristics such as rubberised rounds ?

Finally, plasma torch alteration is so overrated. It has many disadvantages already when using it so either make reload faster or increase damage per shot or let it bounce atleast 9 to 10 times before diminishing.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

1 hour ago, MUG-of-War said:

Dear developers!

Firstly, please buff ricochet back to 400 damage per shot. Or make it even 500 if you may. Please stop nerfing it. It's becoming no fun as a result of you being hell bent on nerfing it. 

The last time Stock Ricochet received a change was in 2018. How were they nerfing it? 

[cool12345 123]

Lost 6 - 0 against "Flying Moneys" with "Bug Zappers"!  We were wiped out to a man!  It was horrible  Team mates cut down in the prime of life!!!  Flying Monkeys with Bug Zappers!  Help!

[Namir 340]

On 8/9/2021 at 8:59 PM, FrozenRailgun said:

Arthur with that 46% Eagle??? 

 

Who is arthur

[Frylock 1,617]

On 8/13/2021 at 7:39 AM, cool12345 said:

Lost 6 - 0 against "Flying Moneys" with "Bug Zappers"!  We were wiped out to a man!  It was horrible  Team mates cut down in the prime of life!!!  Flying Monkeys with Bug Zappers!  Help!

The phrase flying monkeys sound so familiar.  I would know who would say it.  

[Incorp 2,084]

I think tesla is very overpowered, so I came up with this. Tesla mk7 will deal the damage of the current mk5 tesla damage. Then mk8 will deal the current mk6 tesla damage. Mk4 is already great so the new damage should be pretty balanced. 

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Just now, Incorp said:

Mk4 is already great so the new damage should be pretty balanced.

Mk4 Tesla in action:

 

Mk3 Tesla in action:

 

Just now, Incorp said:

Tesla mk7 will deal the damage of the current mk5 tesla damage.

Personally, I think Mk7 Tesla should deal the same damage as the Mk3 or Mk4 Tesla, but nontheless, I myself like the idea. Mk5 is kinda playing it safe for the turret.

Edited August 16, 2021 by Tanker-Arthur