category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[Incorp 2,084]

1 minute ago, Perish said:

It can't be, it's impossible;

Because, juggernaut have big protection and damage also then normal turrets or hulls. If they will add supplies on Juggernaut in the mode, ingame will be disbalance! 

Actually juggernaut is supposed to be OP. and considering the other team also have juggernaut, it is balanced.

[Let 1,398]

1 minute ago, Incorp said:

Actually juggernaut is supposed to be OP. and considering the other team also have juggernaut, it is balanced.

Yea dud i know it. 

Im just mean, If those juggers will be use normal supplies too, next time players will be request to the koderatiom '' please also drones'' xddd and finally players will leave juggernaut mode. 

[mjmj5558 2,346]

1 hour ago, At_Shin said:

This idea gave me another idea - what if we gave Crisis to Juggernaut. Decreased the default Armor, damage and speed but provided a way to increase one power at a time.

It will be uncontrolable on mobile. 

[LSHTV 229]

here is no point ot add such thing, they can easily change Juggernaut and terminator damage to -x2 and then give us armor and damage, here is no point. It's just decoration that it looks activated.

[JustBlackWolf 875]

Tbh with all the c-word nowdays i'd give some damage reduction to juggernauts, 20000 hp is nothing and it literally gets killed in 3-4 seconds by a hornet + freeze with OD active

Edited November 30, 2021 by JustBlackWolf

[IMPULSE-WARRIOR 161]

5 hours ago, JustBlackWolf said:

Tbh with all the  nowdays i'd give some damage reduction to juggernauts, 20000 hp is nothing and it literally gets killed in 3-4 seconds by a hornet + freeze with OD active

It tells you a lot about how insanely broken TO is when a jug gets wiped out by a hornet user with OD activated.

TO (the devs) needs to take a step back and realise that their OP updates (gimmicks for buyers only) have truly destroyed the game.

How long will this nonsense carry on for when the most powerful tank in the game gets taken out with relative ease by a (supposedly) much weaker one.

This is why (jug included) MM battles are usually so one sided, because one team usually has more OP gimmicks than the other. It's rare that you have a balanced battle now, this is all down to the devs and their greed, which is why we will NEVER have a balanced game. 

 

Edited November 30, 2021 by At_Shin
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[DarkPredator 212]

On 11/28/2021 at 11:16 PM, wolverine848 said:

DEVs don't care about balancing the game.  It's ridiculously obvious to most.

this is why tanki has made the game a game of buyers:

look! over 200 k players have reduced which gave tanki no choice but. it will just make the game to fall, plz understand that this is their game and their career.

[DarkPredator 212]

@wolverine848 it reduced from 351k to 141k, its a massive decrease!

[Namir 340]

On 11/28/2021 at 7:45 AM, wolverine848 said:

1) I did not say buyers have increased rapidly.

2) If you split the player base into two groups, how does that help the rank spreads?  It will make it worse.

3) How long do you think buyers will stick around if they are only playing other buyers?  Why do you think they spend $$ on the game when they could play for free?

you have nothing too complain about since tanki need the buyers,if there is no buyers then tanki will colapse.

look at the mini game,the hole point of it was so the buyers could spend so much money on somehting is only comes now,they purposly did that so they can get more money,almost 200k players have left tanki.

be patient till tanki gets enogh money to advertise like they said on their devolopers plan.

you complaining won't fix anything,all it would do is wasting your time!

Edited November 30, 2021 by abdul12340

[Namir 340]

23 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

You really don't read the forum much... 

And you think "shards" will balance the game?               

one thing for sure is>

tanki addint shards did not fix anything but making players more angry the fact that buyers can use both.

the ultra container augments have been soo commom nower days.

[wolverine848 13,097]

17 minutes ago, abdul12340 said:

you have nothing too complain about since tanki need the buyers,if there is no buyers then tanki will colapse.

look at the mini game,the hole point of it was so the buyers could spend so much money on somehting is only comes now,they purposly did that so they can get more money,almost 200k players have left tanki.

be patient till tanki gets enogh money to advertise like they said on their devolopers plan.

you complaining won't fix anything,all it would do is wasting your time!

And yet you wasted your time responding to my post... 

[wolverine848 13,097]

42 minutes ago, DarkPredator said:

@wolverine848 it reduced from 351k to 141k, its a massive decrease!

Largely because many players have left.   I wonder why ...

[Namir 340]

9 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

And yet you wasted your time responding to my post... 

because i had to waste my time responging to make you understand

 

9 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Largely because many players have left.   I wonder why ...

some times you just have to accept and learn the truth!

 

you sure have a huge grudge on that beatiful baby "hopper" @wolverine848

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 minutes ago, abdul12340 said:

because i had to waste my time responging to make you understand

First of all - I already "understand" - you accomplished nothing with your posts.

And for some reason you are doubling down with DarkPredators misconception that I hate buyers.  It's not factual at all.

I dislike the direction TO is taking the game with the many, many OP updates that have changed the game so much it's barely worth playing.  The Devs purposely introduce OP aspects of the game (that are in no way balanced).  These aspects totally take the fun out of battles and that is why many players have left.

[Namir 340]

3 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

First of all - I already "understand" - you accomplished nothing with your posts.

And for some reason you are doubling down with DarkPredators misconception that I hate buyers.  It's not factual at all.

I dislike the direction TO is taking the game with the many, many OP updates that have changed the game so much it's barely worth playing.  The Devs purposely introduce OP aspects of the game (that are in no way balanced).  These aspects totally take the fun out of battles and that is why many players have left.

the players left not becuase op stuff,but stuff like making all mk1 to mk7 skins the same,taking away cosmetic according to mks.making 7 mks etc.

[DarkPredator 212]

43 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Largely because many players have left.   I wonder why ...

what!, probbly because .... wasn' that of a good game. only players which understand the unique concept of tanki remain!

 

34 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

I dislike the direction TO is taking the game with the many, many OP updates that have changed the game so much it's barely worth playing.  The Devs purposely introduce OP aspects of the game (that are in no way balanced).  These aspects totally take the fun out of battles and that is why many players have left.

i never said your hatred was only against buyers, i was just linking them both. OP updates for who? for buyers, exactly! all what is being done is for the sake of buyers! for what ? for more income! for the reason of what? due to a large loss of players. it all links!

why do you think everything to do with events has to do with shops , for income and when did tanki start doing this , after the tragady! now tanki in every way possible is trying to always pull buyers attention to receive a good amount of income to replace the player loss incident. all i was trying to say all this time is, know that the devs are aware of this and are trying to fix it as soon as possible. your qerall is absolutly useless, learn to observe and understand whats going on and expect the devs to expree their problems!!!

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

2 hours ago, DarkPredator said:

look! over 200 k players have reduced which gave tanki no choice but. it will just make the game to fall, plz understand that this is their game and their career.

Those graphs only show player counts of the Steam version of TO, which had 349 (and not 349k) players at its peak. Very few people play TO through Steam.

[DarkPredator 212]

8 hours ago, ThirdOnion said:

Those graphs only show player counts of the Steam version of TO, which had 349 (and not 349k) players at its peak. Very few people play TO through Steam.

thats the only graph i can only find and i guess misunderstood. never realized it, let me find the correct one.

but for sure more than 200k people left

Edited December 1, 2021 by DarkPredator

[IMPULSE-WARRIOR 161]

17 hours ago, abdul12340 said:

 

17 hours ago, abdul12340 said:

some times you just have to accept and learn the truth!

You don't say, really.

 

On 11/21/2021 at 10:31 AM, FX011 said:

Every game has to add some level of new content , the problem is balancing it after implemented. Know what happens  to old games with no content update? It dies a boring death because even the old players tend to give up at some point because of repetition and theres no new flare to catch new players and even newer generation attention. 

 

You don't need gimmicks to "add new content". New interesting maps would serve this purpose just as well.

On 11/29/2021 at 4:44 AM, DarkPredator said:

look at the photo, it says advertising! which means they are going to get more players to join the game. thats a solution, if it recovers the amount of players lost then they have end the cycle in peaceful way.

That's a solution, well yes it could be, but I very much doubt advertising will cement a whole new player base in the numbers that TO need.

Just to clarify, the "CYCLE" will be a never ending cycle of P2W gimmicks that will further ruin the game in favour of buyers only.

Your a dreamer, the devs don't do dreamers only hard core P2W.

17 hours ago, DarkPredator said:

, plz understand that this is their game and their career.

Without players they have NO GAME, so the smart thing to do is start listening to those players who kind of no what the game needs, to not only make it more balanced but also generate cash, so far they have ignored these players, bigger fools them.

 

17 hours ago, abdul12340 said:

you complaining won't fix anything,all it would do is wasting your time!

If enough players complain then hopefully the devs will start and take notice, so no, It's not a waste of time, maybe wishful thinking but not a waste of time.  

16 hours ago, abdul12340 said:

the players left not becuase op stuff,but stuff like making all mk1 to mk7 skins the same,taking away cosmetic according to mks.making 7 mks etc.

Wrong, by the way how old are you because that would explain a lot.

 

16 hours ago, DarkPredator said:

exactly! all what is being done is for the sake of buyers! for what ? for more income! for the reason of what? due to a large loss of players. it all links!

The "links" have become a issue because the devs made it a issue.

The loss of players and everything else that has gone pare shaped is all down to the weakest link, wonder what, who that might be. 

16 hours ago, DarkPredator said:

your qerall is absolutly useless, learn to observe and understand whats going on and expect the devs to expree their problems!!!

OMG @wolverine848 and myself stand corrected. I think after your words of wisdom we will both now endeavour to choose our words more carefully and to get with the program, thanks again. 

Edited December 1, 2021 by IMPULSE-WARRIOR

[DarkPredator 212]

5 hours ago, IMPULSE-WARRIOR said:

I think after your words of wisdom we will both now endeavour to choose our words more carefully and to get with the program, thanks again. 

i don't really understand what you meant? are denying or accepting?

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

On 11/28/2021 at 12:29 AM, DarkPredator said:

hmmm you say buyers have increased rapidly right, so why don't you suggest tanki to seperate buyers from non-buyers. like make two sides of MM!

That won't work imo as it will discriminate tankers based on either F2P or threw their $$$ to this game.

Better way would be matchmaking by a tanker's highest possible GS.

[wolverine848 13,097]

24 minutes ago, FrozenRailgun said:

That won't work imo as it will discriminate tankers based on either F2P or threw their $$$ to this game.

Better way would be matchmaking by a tanker's highest possible GS.

Highest GS wont work either.

If you upgrade ONE combo at the expense of others you will punished by having to play Legends just because you have 2 or 3 modules at mk7 with turret hull mk7 too.

ALL they have to do is tighten up the rank-spreads. The mk-rank limits will take care of the rest.  It IS that simple.  Me playing Brigadiers is just dumb.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

16 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Legends just because you have 2 or 3 modules at mk7 with turret hull mk7 too.

You literally reminds me of my profile.

18 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

ALL they have to do is tighten up the rank-spreads. The mk-rank limits will take care of the rest.  It IS that simple.

I can agree with that yes, but 1st... we need to mend the other damages 1st before tackling that.

[SQUISHYFACE736 40]

Smoky sucks. thunder does more dmage + splash. Give smoky either 300 or so more damage or at least a 25% critical chance to make it even competant.

[IMPULSE-WARRIOR 161]

19 hours ago, DarkPredator said:

i don't really understand what you meant? are denying or accepting?

That was me "just being me" throwing in a bit of sarcasm because it lightens the dark depressing way TO is heading down.

As to the formal answer to your question, in a nutshell @wolverine848 and myself are correct in our assumptions regarding our numerous posts about TO, whereas your assumptions,  which might be more "TO politically correct" are in my opinion at least, WRONG. So to summarise, I'm denying, not accepting.