category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[georgiaboy_61 46]

On 4/15/2022 at 5:41 PM, BruhBruhThingThing said:

If he was truly  "defending the developers" he would be saying things like:

 

"The devs do listen to our feedback it just takes time and resources to make it happen"

"It needed to happen because [insert reason]"

Or any other way that would look like an attempt to justify the devs actions.

From what I've seen, he isn't "defending the developers". All he's doing is saying that hyperspace is super powerful now. Now whether his claim here is right or wrong I don't know. Nor if he's basing them on actual use or ecounters.

Please don't be making false accusations towards someone, it doesn't help anyone.

The developers never get to see the questions for them because [edited] keeps moving them.  

[Dopamine 2,161]

52 minutes ago, georgiaboy_61 said:

The developers never get to see the questions for them because [edited] keeps moving them.  

Please read the rules of Q to Devs section carefully before making judgements. If you think your or other post was moved wrongfully, contact any Forum Moderator via pm. If you have a complaint against a specific Forum Moderator, contact a Forum Administrator via pm.

[Mr.Spark 240]

Hey, Isn’t this a place where we talk about the game balance, is it?

You should make new topic to talk about developers and moderators.

I came here to see people’s recent opinion and share mine about game balance but no one is talking about it…

 

So I’d like to say 

Thunder and Railgun are still weak so we need more buff. ( I don’t mean augments but the turrets)

Freeze is too strong thanks to its buffed critical damage and disabling double damage.

So I suggest that Freezing status effect reduces 25% damage instead of 50 or decrease critical damage.

If you mind other freezing effect augments become too weak or freeze modules effect too much, make the regular damage less.

 

[BruhBruhThingThing 413]

8 minutes ago, Mr.Spark said:

You should make new topic to talk about developers and moderators.

That's prohibited. Some players will use it only for the sole purpose of bashing the devs and mods, which will inevitably cause an endless flame war. Its better if such a topic does not exist.

[Mr.Spark 240]

1 minute ago, BruhBruhThingThing said:

That's prohibited. Some players will use it only for the sole purpose of bashing the devs and mods, which will inevitably cause an endless flame war. Its better if such a topic does not exist.

So, I said this is not the place to talk about such things.

dm me if you want.

Let’s discus game balance.

I think juggernaut’s overdrive shouldn’t have delay.

It can be easily destroyed by Viking’s overdrive.

When juggernaut notice it, it’s too late.

Juggernaut should be live longer especially in solo Juggernaut mode.

Most of them die before getting 10 kills.

[LambSauce 1,884]

12 minutes ago, BruhBruhThingThing said:

endless flame war

Not a problem if it’s just in one topic.

[BruhBruhThingThing 413]

39 minutes ago, LambSauce said:

Not a problem if it’s just in one topic.

Actually, it'll still be a problem. Not only will it negatively impact the community, it'll also create more unnecessary work for the mods.

47 minutes ago, Mr.Spark said:

Let’s discus game balance.

You can, I'm not much interested in it.

[LambSauce 1,884]

9 minutes ago, BruhBruhThingThing said:

Actually, it'll still be a problem. Not only will it negatively impact the community, it'll also create more unnecessary work for the mods.

It will never happen but I would have preferred if there was a topic in the off-topic discussion section where anyone can discuss anything, as long as they aren’t using profanities or something like that.

[Abellia 504]

On 4/15/2022 at 9:12 PM, BruhBruhThingThing said:

Maybe the mods don't want to consistently and repetitively bash the developers like some of us do. 

Wonder who would do such a thing and claim that there is no hope left for the game and the devs have killed it.
 

On 4/14/2022 at 3:39 AM, NikmanGT said:

Criticism stays criticism if the user has a meaningful approach to actually see the problem getting solved, not just the sake of presenting negative thoughts

"I think the devs should make x less overpowered so that more players can fight on equal footing"
"There is no solution here"

Truly a moderation team and not a team hired to keep the p2w going. Please read what you are saying before posting it. It does not reflect well when half the time you try to defend p2w systems, it actually comes off as such rather than as some misguided attempt to keep the forums helpful with their criticism.

 

On 4/14/2022 at 5:50 AM, NikmanGT said:

This was not my meaning of the message but......

Case in point. Pathetic.

[BruhBruhThingThing 413]

8 hours ago, LambSauce said:

It will never happen but I would have preferred if there was a topic in the off-topic discussion section where anyone can discuss anything, as long as they aren’t using profanities or something like that.

Well yeah, but there will always be those players who are the grime of society who will disregard the wishes of the community just to make themselves feel good. It already happens alot without it.

I think allowing us to pm the admins about it is enough.

 

[Abellia 504]

On 4/15/2022 at 9:12 PM, BruhBruhThingThing said:

Any proof that he's been defending the devs? Give me a few good examples.

Not necessarily defending people insulting the devs, but defending people who call out what's wrong with their policies by pretending there's nothing wrong. Nothing is wrong with a 2.5x statistical advantage that's locked behind either RNG or an expensive bundle right?

[YANUKFIN 493]

On 4/17/2022 at 12:28 PM, georgiaboy_61 said:

The developers never get to see the questions for them because [edited] keeps moving them.  

The developers imo "cherry pick" players Q so as not to try and answer the ones that might put them in a bit of a bind.

 

On 4/17/2022 at 9:33 PM, BruhBruhThingThing said:

You can, I'm not much interested in it.

So, you are posting in a topic about "GAME BALANCE" but your not interested in "game balance". 

Can you explain why you are not interested about balance, balance is the core problem of TO and the cause of most of the complaints against the developers.

[BruhBruhThingThing 413]

5 hours ago, YANUKFIN said:

So, you are posting in a topic about "GAME BALANCE" but your not interested in "game balance". 

Can you explain why you are not interested about balance, balance is the core problem of TO and the cause of most of the complaints against the developers.

Well because for one, while its the core problem and the cause of many complaints against the devs, its also the cause of many extremely heated arguments which can easily turn into a flame session.

Second, I don't even have a valid opinion on the current game play. So all I can do is make educated guesses, use the wiki, my experience from around 7-8 months ago, and the things that people say. And no, I'm not willing to play 94 million to 118 million hours in the game just to get the valid opinion.

Third and final, if the devs don't care, then why should I still care? That like the owner of a business no longer caring about it and the investors despite knowing that fact are still pouring money into the business. So why waste my time and effort nagging the devs to do this do that at this point when I can just wait and see what's gonna happen? And give new members a heads up about them here and there.

 

Also I do sometimes post game balance related posts, just depends in how interested I am in it.

[Akame 4,578]

[Frylock 1,617]

7 minutes ago, Akame said:

Especially in Siege mode xD.

[Fuchsia 109]

20s of status immunity and healing is ridiculous

[Dopamine 2,161]

32 minutes ago, max6782 said:

I think average player who play everyday to do missions can see state of the game in just 1 battle. Spamming supplies, overpowered alterations, status effects i dont even know how i got them, and yes that paladin thing... no words for it. Its just mess most of time, but then once in a lifetime you get battle where everyone is trying their best to win and its balanced and intense the whole battle. Just wished it was like that every 2 battle.

The thing is, once you get a really solid combo yourself (mk8/good aug from BP/good drone for example), the battles are actually quite enjoyable (not because you can easily beat the low GS players, rather because you can compete with the better ones. Now this is in fact achievable f2p, although I'm not going to argue the difficulty of doing so.

[fghjkl54 1,517]

2 hours ago, frederik123456 said:

The thing is, once you get a really solid combo yourself (mk8/good aug from BP/good drone for example), the battles are actually quite enjoyable (not because you can easily beat the low GS players, rather because you can compete with the better ones. Now this is in fact achievable f2p, although I'm not going to argue the difficulty of doing so.

the only handicape is reduced crystals from containers. and as long as there is no compensation to this nerf it'll take much longer time to max 1 combo at least!

[Fuchsia 109]

6 hours ago, frederik123456 said:

The thing is, once you get a really solid combo yourself (mk8/good aug from BP/good drone for example), the battles are actually quite enjoyable (not because you can easily beat the low GS players, rather because you can compete with the better ones. Now this is in fact achievable f2p, although I'm not going to argue the difficulty of doing so.

each equipment takes millions of crystals to upgrade fully 

[cool12345 123]

Well it was a great game until the "Flying Monkeys" came out!  LOL!  

 

Game Balance Is Excellent! - A "Flying Monkey" scored all 7 goals in under 3 minutes on my team.  That gave me, as a "Non-Flying Tank", time to relax, do a little gardening, check out the scenery while my hero, The Flying Monkey did all the work!   

[cool12345 123]

Losing the battle? - Bring out the "Cheat Machine."  (Also called "Flying Monkey") - Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!  

[Me0w_XP 523]

On 1/12/2022 at 9:15 AM, Abellia said:

Tldr; RFM sniping mode gets deleted, 1.33 second reload per arcade for RFM, thoughts?

They did this in the latest patch! >:3

[Abellia 504]

23 hours ago, Me0w_XP said:

They did this in the latest patch! >:3

Lmao yeah just about 

[Fenrir 335]

Oh yes, I love balanced gameplay. In all seriousness, I know this battle is a spectacular failure on the MM's part, but... even in fair battles, RFM is dominating. Lol - guess the answer to balancing Helios isn't to nerf it but buff everything else.

[Knaagdier 48]

On 4/20/2022 at 7:49 PM, frederik123456 said:

The thing is, once you get a really solid combo yourself (mk8/good aug from BP/good drone for example), the battles are actually quite enjoyable (not because you can easily beat the low GS players, rather because you can compete with the better ones. Now this is in fact achievable f2p, although I'm not going to argue the difficulty of doing so.

This is simply not true. MK8, which used to be M4 in the 'old days', ment something in battle until the drones and augments arrived at the game. Now, even when I play with a fully upgraded hull and turret to MK8, an almost upgraded booster drone (lvl 17) and some weird augments on my hull and turret, i am regularly killed in one or two shots, or can fire at will at some golden tank p(l)ayer and create a 95 point damage with each shot (instead of 1800 points i get on shooting at non paying players). Sometimes it is even impossible to kill a payer because of his/her drone, even if 3 players are shooting at the tank. Good luck with that... The advantages for payers are just way out of balance, spoiling the game to the bone....