category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

isn't it better to see someone use it to it's full potential? 

 

I have used smoky on legend accounts too  :ph34r: not a lot, but i have seen my legend friends use it a lot. 

No, simply because "full potential" is unquantifiable, while average performance is, if not discrete, much easier to take in.  I repeat my claim: you can't make such statements unless you have friends who can use Rico, Twins, Thunder, etc. to their maximum potential.

Edited November 24, 2017 by r_I_already_won0

[LittleWillie 3,199]

by "generals" i just meant golden stars. and in these battles druging doesn't give you an advantage because everyone drugs. this battle is way after the triple mission rewards, there's the overdrive star as you can see. 

 

I'm pretty sure it's not 10/10 but i can't prove that so you can assume it if you want to. but even at m1 10/10 the m2 alteration doesn't unlock. 

 

and does it matter if it is m2? in these battles everyone else is m2+, m3 or m3+. If this is what you can do with a m1 then imagine what happens if you get palladin at lieutenant general; get the alteration and join such a battle... and imagine what you can do by the time you MU it to m4 when you're general... 

What does it matter is it if m2? It matters because you claimed this was m1 gear. You were dishonest. That is why it maters.

 

Wolv already debunked your claim. But in addition the fact this was m2 means your hero was probably using gear very similar to everyone else in the battle.  So BFD, a smoky finished in first in this one game!!! Stop the presses.

 

I think that this statement applies to almost every turret in the game.    I would judge a turret by its average performance rather than the extreme outlier/professional.

 

Perhaps in your ranks Smoky is still near the top- but definitely not at Legend where there are very few light hulls.

GF loves to cherry pick single battle results and pretend one cherry-[icked battle is nore significant thenl the tens of thousands of battles fought daily. 

 

GF as one concern: To try to convince 40,000 Tanki players who know Magnum is a poor OP design that they are wrong, This is his goal because he uses it, he knows it is OP, and he wants to keep it that way.

 

IMO he joins R_8 on the Lacking Credibility list. And so it goes.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

What does it matter is it if m2? It matters because you claimed this was m1 gear. You were dishonest. That is why it maters.

 

Wolv already debunked your claim. But in addition the fact this was m2 means your hero was probably using gear very similar to everyone else in the battle.  So BFD, a smoky finished in first in this one game!!! Stop the presses.

 

GF loves to cherry pick single battle results and pretend one cherry-[icked battle is nore significant thenl the tens of thousands of battles fought daily. 

 

GF as one concern: To try to convince 40,000 Tanki players who know Magnum is a poor OP design that they are wrong, This is his goal because he uses it, he knows it is OP, and he wants to keep it that way.

 

IMO he joins R_8 on the Lacking Credibility list. And so it goes.

what's they point of m2 smoky if you can't use the alteration

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

. GF as one concern: To try to convince 40,000 Tanki players who know Magnum is a poor OP design that they are wrong, This is his goal because he uses it, he knows it is OP, and he wants to keep it that way.

I don't know...have you seen his profile?- seems to be advocating for Shaft and Hammer the most.  Where does Magnum come into this? -I thought the discussion was about Smoky M2.

[wolverine848 13,097]

what's they point of m2 smoky if you can't use the alteration

What does the alteration have to do with it?

 

Does not make it better.  Makes it different playing style - but not better.  Unlike Firebird afterburn alt...

[LittleWillie 3,199]

what's they point of m2 smoky if you can't use the alteration

Well in Tanki an "m1" item is not as powerful as an "m2" item. 

 

Stop trolling.

 

I don't know...have you seen his profile?- seems to be advocating for Shaft and Hammer the most.  Where does Magnum come into this? -I thought the discussion was about Smoky M2.

The reason he brought up the smoky screenshot was just to distract from Magnum.  He is trying to "prove" Magnum isn't OP because look, this one time a smoky finished in first.  

 

If you scroll up he made a post saying basically that.  [paraphrase] "Has anyone ever seen a m1 magnum finish in 1st against all generals? [but they were not all generals]  Look at the m1 smoky!" [and that was an m2 smoky [probably drugging harder than anyone else that match]]

 

So we have both distractions and lies in an attempt to keep the OP magnum as OP as possible.

 

At this point you have to lump him with that other forum troll. Both are all about their self-interests not about the health of the game.

 

So it goes.

Edited November 24, 2017 by LittleWillie

[splitterpoint 10,986]

Shaft is an absolute beast especially on mouse controls.

It's so precise and you can hide the laser yet still move the camera around with your mouse if you hold the right mouse button.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

The reason he brought up the smoky screenshot was just to distract from Magnum.  He is trying to "prove" Magnum isn't OP because look, this one time a smoky finished in first.  

If you scroll up he made a post saying basically that.  [paraphrase] "Has anyone ever seen a m1 magnum finish in 1st against all generals? [but they were not all generals]  Look at the m1 smoky!" [and that was an m2 smoky [probably drugging harder than anyone else that match]]

So we have both distractions and lies in an attempt to keep the OP magnum as OP as possible.

At this point you have to lump him with that other forum troll. Both are all about their self-interests not about the health of the game.

So it goes.

I've already established that his anecdotal screenshots will not be sufficient for a debate here.

 

I was addressing you specifically- how do you know he is advocating for Magnum in his own self-interest?  Not everyone acts out of pure greed.

[GunslingerMongoose 198]

I was addressing you specifically- how do you know he is advocating for Magnum in his own self-interest?  Not everyone acts out of pure greed.

You're giving him more credibility than he deserves. Always assume that when someone advocates for the retention of statistics for an OP weapon/item they are doing it out of greed or ignorance as they have either obtained the item and become a god in disguise with it or they've never seen it on the battle field. 

 

Look at the 205 Brecci shotgun from CoD: BO3. It's brokenly OP, everyone knows this but the community is the only thing stopping the developers from nerfing it into the ground.

 

Another good example is the ASM1 Speakeasy in Advanced Warfare. Broken OP, took months to fix. Why? Because whiners.

 

 

Just leave the kid. He's some 10 year old who thinks he knows everything. Smh.

[WoundedWarrior 302]

striker needs to have a distance decay (damage doing less the farther it is away from its target) with single shot bullets (not the full 6 or 4 or whatever it is). Otherwise striker is turning into a very affective shaft with a very quick reload time.

 

Striker presses space and waits for the red beam to land on some target, then quickly releases and taps the spacebar again. this ensures a hit from very far away and doesn't take forever to load the full striker bullet thing with more bullets (gosh I really dont know what to call that). used right, this is more effective than shaft.

[Maf 32,300]

^ Topic merged

 

 the full striker bullet thing with more bullets (gosh I really dont know what to call that). 

Barrage/volley.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

striker needs to have a distance decay (damage doing less the farther it is away from its target) with single shot bullets (not the full 6 or 4 or whatever it is). Otherwise striker is turning into a very affective shaft with a very quick reload time.

 

Striker presses space and waits for the red beam to land on some target, then quickly releases and taps the spacebar again. this ensures a hit from very far away and doesn't take forever to load the full striker bullet thing with more bullets (gosh I really dont know what to call that). used right, this is more effective than shaft.

Nope. That is not at all how it works. That helps aim but it in not a 100% sure hit,

 

Sytiker more deadly than Shaft? Hyperbole.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

striker needs to have a distance decay (damage doing less the farther it is away from its target) with single shot bullets (not the full 6 or 4 or whatever it is). Otherwise striker is turning into a very affective shaft with a very quick reload time.

 

Striker presses space and waits for the red beam to land on some target, then quickly releases and taps the spacebar again. this ensures a hit from very far away and doesn't take forever to load the full striker bullet thing with more bullets (gosh I really dont know what to call that). used right, this is more effective than shaft.

You know, 1/3 the damage and a large delay in shot speed is a difference.   It's basically a Thunder with shot delay.

 

P.S. That's called a Salvo.

[I.Follow 140]

 

Golfinray, on 23 Nov 2017 - 12:08, said:

Thunder - too nerfed 2 years ago

 

Hammer - still ok but nerfed too much but not near what it used to be

 

Shaft - too op at M4 as in WAY too op

 

Magnum - stupid op, like Vulcan was before the nerf

 

Fire, Freeze - Way too up even at M4. I have M4 in both and you get killed frequently by lesser tanks. Too many people have protection.

 

Isida - still good but not enough self healing like before the nerf

 

Twins - Not that good unless at M4 with Titan and drugs. Then a killer

 

Rail - super weak noob turret except in very experienced hands. There are some experienced rail players that will smoke you.

 

Striker - nothing noob central except for one guy who has really learned to play it. He will smoke you like a dog.

 

Vulcan - only useful at M4 sitting on M4 mamy. Otherwise you are dead quickly.

 

Rico - Rico players are weird and mostly noobs. A few good Rico players

 

Smoky - I have M4 sitting on M4 Viking. With enough drugs you can function but the nerf killed it.

 

 

 

 

Im 100%%%%%%%% with you about railgun its super weak noob worrst gun not fun not worth the crystal and expensive not worth 1k of crystals m0 rail kill m0 wasp in 2 shots with dd are you kidding me we did not used to see this weak railgun from 2010 to 2016/10 worrst re balance that killed tanki compeletly I mean tanki players was up to 110k before the re balance of 2016/10 and after 2016/10 players not even at Halloween didnt up to 60k hHahhahah tanki lose a lot and fall a lot , coz this they keep doing new offers in the shop they know that the game gonna keep only 1k after some updates ahhahaha . Idc anyway . I have decided to give the best solution for railgun which is

 

PLEASE pass my feedback to the devs , here is my feedback ...

 

Hello devs , today im gonna give an idea to the game balance which is about railgun as you may noticed that a lot of players asking to get rail buffed , so I decided to give a 2010 player suggestion and im sure 100% its correct and best solution to the rail . Here is it , why dont tanki re the old railgun and replace the altretion with this onehttps://prnt.sc/hf7oj0 and its going to be great ! And amazing to play with high dmg gun slow reload , more fair , worth its expensive cost , more fun , more fairly play with less rail shots ( its going to be slower which results less rail shots which results more time to players to do there work hide attack heall . Etc )

[T-34-3m 360]

Otherwise striker is turning into a very affective shaft with a very quick reload time.

Against Shafts, maybe. I tend to use the lock on specifically on cycloptic Mammoth-Shafts because even if they notice they're to slow and big to avoid it.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Against Shafts, maybe. I tend to use the lock on specifically on cycloptic Mammoth-Shafts because even if they notice they're to slow and big to avoid it.

it takes 3 seconds for striker to lock on... shaft scope enter delay is just  0.5 seconds... This leaves them with 2.49 seconds to aim the side of the tip of your turret... and i only need less than a second to do that. and even if they're a bit late there's still the time your rockets take to blast off one by one and travel to reach them.

[T-34-3m 360]

it takes 3 seconds for striker to lock on... shaft scope enter delay is just  0.5 seconds... This leaves them with 2.49 seconds to aim the side of the tip of your turret... and i only need less than a second to do that. and even if they're a bit late there's still the time your rockets take to blast off one by one and travel to reach them.

Again, cycloptic. They wouldn't even notice me because they sit there fully scoped waiting for someone to come into view.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Again, cycloptic. They wouldn't even notice me because they sit there fully scoped waiting for someone to come into view.

I don't think cycloptic means what you think it means...

Edited November 27, 2017 by GuidoFawkes

[T-34-3m 360]

I don't think cycloptic means what you think it means...

Adjective[edit]

cycloptic (comparative more cycloptic, superlative most cycloptic)

 

One-eyed.

Approaching or viewing a situation with a single perspective. quotations ▼

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

 

Adjective[edit]

cycloptic (comparative more cycloptic, superlative most cycloptic)

 

One-eyed.

Approaching or viewing a situation with a single perspective. quotations ▼

 

so they view the situation from a single perspective?

[T-34-3m 360]

so they view the situation from a single perspective?

Yeah, their scope.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

"cycloptic" ... Word of the day.... love it. :)

[wolverine848 13,097]

 

 

Thunder - too nerfed 2 years ago

 

Hammer - still ok but nerfed too much but not near what it used to be

 

Shaft - too op at M4 as in WAY too op

 

Magnum - stupid op, like Vulcan was before the nerf

 

Fire, Freeze - Way too up even at M4. I have M4 in both and you get killed frequently by lesser tanks. Too many people have protection.

 

Isida - still good but not enough self healing like before the nerf

 

Twins - Not that good unless at M4 with Titan and drugs. Then a killer

 

Rail - super weak noob turret except in very experienced hands. There are some experienced rail players that will smoke you.

 

Striker - nothing noob central except for one guy who has really learned to play it. He will smoke you like a dog.

 

Vulcan - only useful at M4 sitting on M4 mamy. Otherwise you are dead quickly.

 

 

 

Rico - Rico players are weird and mostly noobs. A few good Rico players

 

 

 

Smoky - I have M4 sitting on M4 Viking. With enough drugs you can function but the nerf killed it.

 

 

Wait - What??? :huh: :o :angry:

[Skills.n.Girls 767]

Come on...

 

Magnum can do splash damage even if the projectile didn't land on anything. Why isn't Striker able to do so?

Magnum's projectile radius is also double the Striker's.

Magnum can compete even in small maps, like Hill, and is generally the strongest turret in the terms "Any map / Any range"...

 

Please don't make Striker's time the shortest, every turret had its great times but Striker got shaded by the new 'noob turret'...

[Stratosphere 2,234]

Come on...

 

Magnum can do splash damage even if the projectile didn't land on anything. Why isn't Striker able to do so?

 

How can Magnum deal any damage if it doesn't hit anything?