category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[wolverine848 13,097]

All modifications of Shaft besides M1 do damage either identical or almost identical to Viking's HP.

Are the turret and hull "Let's Discuss.." charts in sync with WIKI?

 

because "almost identical" is not "equal to or greater".

 

This means a stock m1 & m2 Shaft can't kill a stock viking m1 & m2.  Which is not what we were led to believe after update... (last yr?)

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Posted 03 May 2018 - 19:30

 

I.Follow, on 03 May 2018 - 12:31, said:

I think that railgun strongly needs a buff .

Agree with you bro .

LOL

 

Forget which sockpuppet account you'd logged in on?

[I.Follow 140]

I would definitely learn a couple more turrets, and this game is certainly not worth killing yourself.

 

I got locked into one turret for years (thunder) and then when they nerfed it I couldn't do that well anymore.

 

Get yourself a Hammer and maybe a flamer. You can slowly MU it over time (I mued most of my stuff one or two levels at a time.)

 

You can get LOTS of kills and flags with these two turrets and they are not that hard to learn.

 

Now if you ONLY play xp/bp then you are just hosed but I would still learn some other parts of the game.

 

Lots of points and kills to be had.

 

Also try other hulls also. I got Titan early this year. Wow! Nice hull for some maps. I now have it at 20/20 and it is hard to kill.

 

 

Hello player ,

 

 

A big thanks to reply on my comment , I would to repeat for the million time

 

 

I'm a 2009 player that has/have a massive ecprince in this game and have tested all guns from m0 to m4 with all alts expect for

 

M2 fire bird

 

M2 Vulcan and freeze and isida alts .

 

 

Yes I agree hammer are so fun and good actually very good it could be a beast if a beast like me use it in med-maps . firebird hm mmm not bad but with m3 fire and DMG alt its very OP ,

 

 

But again and again and again and million of again I'm playing tankionline.com only for/to RAILGUN railgun is me and me is railgun , railgun is part of my body man , but its fun to kill light hulls by 3 shots its seriously not fun and damn big unfair .

 

So let's discuss what will be happen if rail get a min DMG buff ? Will it really be OP ? Will it be more balanced ? Will it be weak/strong/balanced/unbalanced ? I see u have a good exprince in tanki while playing with u from my alts account .

 

 

Big thanks to read my comment player ... Sorry idk ur name it would be nice to tell me ur name .

[ghost-guns 1,486]

I would definitely learn a couple more turrets, and this game is certainly not worth killing yourself.

 

I got locked into one turret for years (thunder) and then when they nerfed it I couldn't do that well anymore.

 

Get yourself a Hammer and maybe a flamer. You can slowly MU it over time (I mued most of my stuff one or two levels at a time.)

 

You can get LOTS of kills and flags with these two turrets and they are not that hard to learn.

 

Now if you ONLY play xp/bp then you are just hosed but I would still learn some other parts of the game.

 

Lots of points and kills to be had.

 

Also try other hulls also. I got Titan early this year. Wow! Nice hull for some maps. I now have it at 20/20 and it is hard to kill.

I second the advice about flamer. Do you have it M4? Has to be the easiest turret to use, plus you can do damage from "beyond the grave"... no other turret can do that.

 

I should have got hammer but like a fool I bought shaft because I wanted a different gameplay.

 

XP/BP is fine for railgun as micro-upgrades are turned off but I don't like XP/BP players so I never go on that mode.

 

Yeah titan is good. I drove past your titan/twins on wolfenstein the other day  ^_^ 

[RevengeAttacker 217]

Hello player golfiinary ,

 

 

Thanks for reading my comment , and yes I agree with you about the truth that tanki I not listing to Us , but there is something I need help about actually its not only one thing sadly ,

 

First of all I canacvpet the truth that tanki won't be great again coz this game takes 9 years from my life and I love it so much but ... I hate it so much I just Kong know how to explain to u how I feel dear friend

Railgun is only for xp/bp in high ranks now. Get used to it. It's also there because light hulls are normally bad in nonpro battles.

Edited May 13, 2018 by ControlledChaos
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[I.Follow 140]

guys do ya think rail needs a buff  ?

[Viking4s 10,791]

guys do ya think rail needs a buff  ?

nope

[caiosilvac 567]

guys do ya think rail needs a buff  ?

Not at all. I find it weird that only one person is complaining about Railgun. You have a bunch of M2's, use them, it's not healthy to obsess over one thing. if you're facing too many modules just play XP/BP - if you think lucky shots are unfair, they happen to your enemies too. If you keep spamming you might get your buyer account banned, how would you like that?

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Not at all. I find it weird that only one person is complaining about Railgun. You have a bunch of M2's, use them, it's not healthy to obsess over one thing. if you're facing too many modules just play XP/BP - if you think lucky shots are unfair, they happen to your enemies too. If you keep spamming you might get your buyer account banned, how would you like that?

I think he's a railgun loyalist.

[Guest]

guys do ya think rail needs a buff  ?

Rail is fine, no need for a buff. 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

I know that there is a similar idea for magnum but I just want this idea to be heard.

So anyway, there are many turrets that are difficult to deal with at their respective range. Magnum on the other hand is difficult to deal with at All ranges .

So the first part of my idea is to nerf any shots that have been lobbed off ledges and down onto lower elevations by 50% in terms of damage and 50% in terms of splash radius. The reason for this is because the current magnum can damage many enemies badly so easily. With this idea, the new magnum can still damage a group of enemies easily, but not as many and not as badly either.


The second part is to nerf just the damage of a 0 degree, 100% power shot when it hits a close by enemy by 50%. The reason I didn't include the splash radius in this scenario is because I want it to damage the user as well. That way by the time the users gun has reloaded, the enemy would have put the hurt on them.

I think that in order for the magnum deal it's current amount of damage, it should have some air time.

What do you guys think? :)

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Tell you what. Railgun can be buffed just the way the troll whines/wants the same day they turn Smoky into a 1-hit medium hull killer too.  Same firing rate for Smoky  as it has now just up the damage so it can 1-shot a medium hull w/o needing a crit hit.  Oh ... and double the chances for a crit hit and triple impact force too. No need to speed up turret rotation. I am not greedy.

 

Why do you want for your favorite turret so this troll can get his wish as last?  

Edited May 14, 2018 by LittleWillie

[I.Follow 140]

Not at all. I find it weird that only one person is complaining about Railgun. You have a bunch of M2's, use them, it's not healthy to obsess over one thing. if you're facing too many modules just play XP/BP - if you think lucky shots are unfair, they happen to your enemies too. If you keep spamming you might get your buyer account banned, how would you like that?

 

I'm not a buyer first of all , just my old friends that already left tanki in 2016/10 they bought me some times and they I'll do every time I tell them coz they know I'm ... Kinda poor , and my main acc has all m4s and I've done tests to all guns and I have bug massive exprince in all guns expect for ricochet idk why :) , but from all this massive experience I DID NOT have fun in any one of them expect for rail :( , Im not saying buff it a big buff or make it damn op or whatever u all think , look just imagine how annoying when your railgun kill wasp by 3 shots oh man 3 shots for wasp ? Old rail was 1 shots its look like they increased 2 shots to railgun to kill wasp which increase like 8 or 10 idk extra seconds to kill wasp , don't make rail kill wasp and hornet by 1 shot and ...and don't make it kill them by 3 shots just take the medium choose which is 2 shots ... Alt make rail kill them by 1 shot 80% of times I think so making railgun kill light hulls by 2 shots 100% no luck will not make the alteration useless and not wroth the crystals ,

 

If u think that this idea will make rail (it won't I swear) OP just nerf other parameters like reload or max dmg or parenting DMG or what ever ...

 

 

Play xp bp to fix this ? No , actually it won't it will make me even more mad and angry a noob can't rotate he's turret kill me by 2 shots before 1 sec of capturing the flag ,,, when I went to revenge I shot him 1 shot and smile think like I'll kill him in the next shot and boooooooioiom !!!! The seconds shot did not kill him but he killed me by 2 shots damnnnn my life damn my poor freaking life tanki is dead

Rail is fine, no need for a buff.

 

 

 

Its fine when u play xp bp and some one kill u by 2 shots but u kill him by 3 shots huh huhhhhh ? Damn huh ???????

[gokuMI6 1,290]

Its fine when u play xp bp and some one kill u by 2 shots but u kill him by 3 shots huh huhhhhh ? Damn huh ???????

So you Exit after so being 2 shote'd he come 3 shot ?

 

Well  for the next XP/BP game Stay for full time  and you will notice

he will be 2 shot and you will be 3 shot, next time you 2 and he 3 , next you 3 he 3 ................

 

Learn the game man 

It keeps rotating

:)

Edited May 14, 2018 by gokuMI6

[Viking4s 10,791]

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Its fine when u play xp bp and some one kill u by 2 shots but u kill him by 3 shots huh huhhhhh ? Damn huh ???????

Yes, it is fine. This is due to the randomise damage per shot. This is to keep the game surprising. If you always kill everybody in 2 shoots it will be too boring. While if sometime it needs 3 shoots then you will thinks twice before going for the flag unless you are a hot shot.

Also 3 shots kills happen when a tank was hit during a double shoot. The second tanks receive less damage than the first one, thus increasing the probability of a three shoot kill.

Read the wiki: https://en.tankiwiki.com/Railgun

• Penetrating power (%) — The percentage of damage that a tank in line behind the first receives upon being hit. The damage from the first tank to be struck is multiplied by the percentage, resulting in the approximate value of the damage to the second. If there is a third tank behind the second, that value will be multiplied by the same percentage, and the result of that number will be the damage dealt to the third tank, and so on.

 

Last but not least, it depends of the Mastery level of the turret and the hull, M3 and M2. 

[I.Follow 140]

Yes, it is fine. This is due to the randomise damage per shot. This is to keep the game surprising. If you always kill everybody in 2 shoots it will be too boring. While if sometime it needs 3 shoots then you will thinks twice before going for the flag unless you are a hot shot.

Also 3 shots kills happen when a tank was hit during a double shoot. The second tanks receive less damage than the first one, thus increasing the probability of a three shoot kill.

Read the wiki: https://en.tankiwiki.com/Railgun

• Penetrating power (%) — The percentage of damage that a tank in line behind the first receives upon being hit. The damage from the first tank to be struck is multiplied by the percentage, resulting in the approximate value of the damage to the second. If there is a third tank behind the second, that value will be multiplied by the same percentage, and the result of that number will be the damage dealt to the third tank, and so on.

 

Last but not least, it depends of the Mastery level of the turret and the hull, M3 and M2. 

so u are saying that old xp/bp with the currnet reload speed is a non-skilled mode/battle ? nope , skills is when u do rare shots and think to stratgies and other cool stuff , but the luck shots remove all of this . and make rail weak in the same time and unfair battle .

 

So you Exit after so being 2 shote'd he come 3 shot ?

 

Well  for the next XP/BP game Stay for full time  and you will notice

he will be 2 shot and you will be 3 shot, next time you 2 and he 3 , next you 3 he 3 ................

 

Learn the game man 

It keeps rotating

:)

i know about this already , thanks for being nice to me not as some people up there :( .

i know how its work but still unfair . do u think so ?

[Viking4s 10,791]

so u are saying that old xp/bp with the currnet reload speed is a non-skilled mode/battle ? nope , skills is when u do rare shots and think to stratgies and other cool stuff , but the luck shots remove all of this . and make rail weak in the same time and unfair battle .

In XP/BP everybody do have railgun, so it is the same parameters for everybody, don't you think? Everybody is equally strong or equally weak.

Play only with people with the same master than you if you cannot handle a challenge or you do not want to adapt. 

Playing against stronger equipment make you play better though.

[gokuMI6 1,290]

i know about this already , thanks for being nice to me not as some people up there :( .

i know how its work but still unfair . do u think so ?

Don't be sad , they said their opinion

 

I started XP just before a month and i like the rotation 

but not all time , it calls for strategic game play 

I keeps us competive 

Edited May 15, 2018 by gokuMI6

[I.Follow 140]

In XP/BP everybody do have railgun, so it is the same parameters for everybody, don't you think? Everybody is equally strong or equally weak.

Play only with people with the same master than you if you cannot handle a challenge or you do not want to adapt.

Playing against stronger equipment make you play better though.

Nope , when u kill wasp by 3 shots and he kill u by 2 shots that's not equal . xp was for years balanced and fun but after 2016/10 its. Dead ,

Even in not in xp bp rail are so weak , I mean once I hit viking m1 using my rail m2 and dp I did not killed him by 1 shot , IDC for 1 shots light and med hulls I care to the idea of making railgun balanced fun by killing light hulls by 2 shots 100% no damn luck ,

 

And tell me will making rail kill light hulls by 2 shots make it OP ? Huh ?

[Viking4s 10,791]

Nope , when u kill wasp by 3 shots and he kill u by 2 shots that's not equal.

Next try, you will kill him in 2 shoots and he will kill you in 3. That's level - so it is fair over several actions.

If you keep looking at one event at the time, you will not see the big pictures, you will not understand the overall concept of probabilities.

As it was said before, randomisation it's to keep it interesting. If you want consistency you can still play Chess board game - it's fair for both player even if some pieces ,like the queens, are unfairly stronger than others, like the pawns.

[I.Follow 140]

Next try, you will kill him in 2 shoots and he will kill you in 3. That's level - so it is fair over several actions.

If you keep looking at one event at the time, you will not see the big pictures, you will not understand the overall concept of probabilities.

As it was said before, randomisation it's to keep it interesting. If you want consistency you can still play Chess board game - it's fair for both player even if some pieces ,like the queens, are unfairly stronger than others, like the pawns.

i understand ,

thank you :( . 

but what do u mean by 

next try , ?

 

viking4s ill try using shaft this time and lets see wishing i can love it as i used to love rail 

 

i wish all pray me to love shaft and forget rail coz i cant hadnle this pain of rail nerf anymore its hurting so hard hard .

[gokuMI6 1,290]

^^ 

Try Rico or Twins / Smoky

Since you are a Rail user it will blend nicely

 

i will suggest Smoky and help teams in attacking by crushing enemy defence

[I.Follow 140]

rico then ? im extied man , but today i open the game and my alt acc got supsuppended for using a unaccpetable name i contact the help desk they did not help me they has a damn bad english man i think they are russian using transalte lol , 

 

 

pm i have something with u man . gokumi6

[RevengeAttacker 217]

Most turrets in the game are not balanced. For example, thunder, without protections, is a beast. However people noticed that and the best tier turrets have 50% protection against them among high ranks. So, the second tier turrets are the good and usable, and things in between the two tiers are also usable. The game has become balanced this way.

 

However Magnum, is

1. Wayyyy too annoying, while others are too, this one is more so because you suddenly die.

2. Annoying because they camp and have fixed angles and power to fire to a location. So, magnum camps in their base. It's CTF.

They have a angle and power and direction specifically to effectlvely fire to their base. They also have another set of those for firing to the other team's base. When one guy gets too close to them, press C, fire. If a guy is a bit far, put the angle to about 40, and shoot about right.

It takes literally no skill to advance to top 3. All you need is a few experiments to accurately fire to bases.

3. Because they ruined SO.MUCH.MAPS. A good example is Noise. Blue team got rekt.

4. Not good magnum modules. Doesn't help a lot.

Lots of more reasons.

 

Striker is underpowered.

I am too tired to write this, just you know, try to use striker.

[DRAKO523 795]

Striker is underpowered.

I am too tired to write this, just you know, try to use striker.

Just this part I must disagree, Striker and Titan is a beast, as well as Striker and Dictator also work well, if you know how to handle it..

​And all about the Magnum part, yep I agree;p