category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[bob 0]

Oh he has been ranting about "noobs" and "noob turrets" for the past year now on the Russian forum. I guess now he got kicked out of there and moved here instead :D

Get used to it.

Hellow, my noob-friend with Vulcan. I go here, because all English players that i see in the battles - big noobs. And I came here to teach them how to play and think like PRO.

[r_Damn_Slow0 12,476]

Removed the "noob" quarrel posts.

 

Lets try keep the discussion on the game balance please.

[r_Damn_Slow0 12,476]

Thanks for sharing your opinion with us bob.  And we look forward to seeing you pro play with us the noob EN community.  I think we can always learn from pros, so yes, looking forward to your enlightening pro's advice :)

 

#sarcasm

[WALLE 15]

sorry, but you noob. Aim with shaft for noobs and kids, its most elementary gun in game.

Hello, Yellow_Beam.

Could you express your opinion on your national forum?

EN-players don't agree with you(i, also, think, you are wrong)

Shaft if simple. However, it is rather weak.

[bob 0]

Thanks for sharing your opinion with us bob. And we look forward to seeing you pro play with us the noob EN community. I think we can always learn from pros, so yes, looking forward to your enlightening pro's advice :)

 

 

#sarcasm

Hello, my English friend. Just do not delete my posts, and two months later the English-speaking players will win all the Russians in the battles and to think like a PRO (like me, for example).

[bob 0]

Hello, Yellow_Beam.

Could you express your opinion on your national forum?

EN-players don't agree with you(i, also, think, you are wrong)

Shaft if simple. However, it is rather weak.

Hello, isida. Isida is very strong gun. I will buy isida for my little sister in this day. Bye, isida.

[WALLE 15]

Hello, isida. Isida is very strong gun. I will buy isida for my little sister in this day. Bye, isida.

Isida is rather strong gun. However, it is difficult to use-for example, railgun is much easier, then isida-you just have to be exact :)

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

..and two months later the English-speaking players will win all the Russians in the battles and to think like a PRO (like me, for example).

Nice to see, that such a pro joined the English community :)

Which turrets can you give us your advise for?

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

Nice to see, that such a pro joined the English community :)

Which turrets can you give us your advise for?

 

Other than shaft

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

Hellow, my noob-friend with Vulcan. I go here, because all English players that i see in the battles - big noobs. And I came here to teach them how to play and think like PRO.

btw, less than half of the english players are on the forums(im guessing) so that wouldent make enough of an impact to really make much of a difference in battles. You will still see noobs everywhere no matter what you do here. We english are stubborn like that

 

sorry, but you noob. Aim with shaft for noobs and kids, its most elementary gun in game.

Shaft is one of those turrets that are easy to use, but difficult to master. Iv seen many great shaft players in many maps, though they have poor score on the leaderboards because they dont have teams that actually try to protect them in any way. I once went against a m1Hornet/m0 Shaft player in a 1v1 on rio and it was a pretty cloe game...i was m1 Hunter and M1 Railgun, so i had a signifigant advantage over him equipment wise. btw my point is that shaft is not a noob weapon. Not that im a noob for almost losing to that guy who wil probebly be a real pro if he sticks to Tanki. I still dont underatand your logic on Shaft being noob though.....

 

 

Btw......based on your logic, that means Smokey is noob gun....see, Smokey really is the simplest turret in the game...for the devs and the players......its a box with a stick. It has decent reload so just about anyone can use it....isnt that why the devs made it the starter turret?(no its not. Smokey is just friggin awesome and is insanely versitile, so thats why devs made it starter)

Edited March 8, 2016 by MrCheezyPotato

[WALLE 15]

Nice to see, that such a pro joined the English community :)

Which turrets can you give us your advise for?

Isida and vulcan :d

[The-Operator219 1,929]

So this "bob" guy, is he serious?

I mean, I've heard of inflated ego but...

Well, best not argue with him, he's clearly superior in every way. >.>

[bob 0]

Hello, my little little friends with little little ranks! i returned after one day ban.

 

Nice to see, that such a pro joined the English community :)

Which turrets can you give us your advise for?

Railgun, Rico, Twins and, may be, Thunder. Its guns for real PRO players. May be Smoky. 

 

 

Well, best not argue with him, 

Yes, because i always right. You are nice guy despite the fact that Lieutenant

[george_ace 57]

 

 

Yes, because i always right. You are nice guy despite the fact that Lieutenant

That is a very arrogant thing to say (I hope I am not angering too many people here). No one is always right. ALL guns, if used correctly, are equally good. I think the short-range weapons are every bit as pro as the long-range turrets. If you have used Firebird + Wasp as much as I have (I doubt most of you have), you will realize that using Wasp (the most ridiculed hull) and Firebird (one of the most ridiculed turrets) requires far more skill to use well than many of you have thought. The same is true for the other turrets. Does this make "pro" turrets like Railgun not good? Of course not! In Tanki there is a need for every turret. It all depends on what kind of battle you are fighting in.

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

 

 

Yes, because i always right. 

All hail bob....all hail bob.....ect

[WALLE 15]

Hello, my little little friends with little little ranks! i returned after one day ban.

 

 

Railgun, Rico, Twins and, may be, Thunder. Its guns for real PRO players. May be Smoky. 

 

 

Yes, because i always right. You are nice guy despite the fact that Lieutenant

Your are wrong sometimes :)

For example, ylur believe, thet isida is much stronger, then rail or freeze ;)

[istina_forever_loool 0]

Balance is so bad and we know this.

[stawp_thundertime 275]

If you are not into reading longish rants keep the spoiler closed :)

 

 

 

Im not against the idea of vulcan, i could do with an long range gun with such an insane autoaim.

But giving this weapon the impactforce it has on long range is ridiculous.

Nowadays longrange gameplay on a map with vulcan requires a heavy hull, and this drops the diversity significantly...

And who attacks with a light hull, if there is a vulcan defending...

Im all for different types of guns, but the reason we have different guns is to create diversity, and the current form of vulcan does everytihing but that, it simply makes the enemy switch to heavier or flee, often also resulting in campoffs

The tiny amount of vulcan protrective paints for long range, the basicly unlimited ammo, the fact that it's extremely annoying to its enemies... This is a gun that dominates long and medium range, expesially with an isida, while still being usable on medium/short range. Many would argue, that smoky also covers too many ranges, and vulcan is just competition for it.

But let's take in to count how much easyer vulcan is to use... well it's alot easyer.

It's also notable that vulcans damage doesn't decrease in the same way with range, and missing with it is harder than hitting the enemy.

Smoky is also concidered op, by many, but it simply can't reach the level of annoyingness and overall power of vulcan.

"But stawp vulcan can't be used with light hulls, this make it's effectiveness much smaller" i've heard some vulcanist say.

This is confusing it's usability with effectiveness, reducing the usability of a gun on some hulls doesn't have anything to do with its effectiveness nor is it any good for diversity. In fact it reduces the diversity even more.

 

 

 

A simple reduction of the impact force on long and long/medium range would make vulcan a much more balanced turret and bring back the utility of many other combos. This nerf could even be paid back, by reducing the kickback, therefore making it more usable on hunters, hornets and vikings, creating a larger diversity on vulcan combos in battles.

I honestly see no reason not to perform this nerf, vulcan would still be usable, and keeps it's unicness, and this would definetly make many battles more diverse and less annoying.

Edited March 9, 2016 by stawp_thundertime

[The-Operator219 1,929]

And I really don't care for the impact force, I  just like that it's Twins's older brother that can stretch across the entire map.

[istina_forever_loool 0]

Isida is rather strong gun. However, it is difficult to use-for example, railgun is much easier, then isida-you just have to be exact :)

Isida is noobish gun

[stawp_thundertime 275]

And I really don't care for the impact force, I  just like that it's Twins's older brother that can stretch across the entire map.

At your ranks the impact isn't such a big deal the problem is mainly with m4 and 3

.... i'd like to say get on my level son, but that would be kinda rude :P

[The-Operator219 1,929]

It's very subtle, if you look closely your hull will be traveling backwards slowly.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Hello, my little little friends with little little ranks! i returned after one day ban.

Hip, hip, hooray...

 

Railgun, Rico, Twins and, may be, Thunder. Its guns for real PRO players. May be Smoky. 

Twins=PRO...yeah for sure @bob

 

Yes, because i always right. You are nice guy despite the fact that Lieutenant

Nice attitude...

[bossman161 276]

Been looking over past updates with nostalgia...The Tanki I knew when I first started is now vastly different...

 

EX: I was snagging a flag and a M0 Freeze got me in its icy grip. I was panicking slightly because I was afraid I would be destroyed. Now when I see a freeze I barely bat en eye.  

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

Been looking over past updates with nostalgia...The Tanki I knew when I first started is now vastly different...

 

EX: I was snagging a flag and a M0 Freeze got me in its icy grip. I was panicking slightly because I was afraid I would be destroyed. Now when I see a freeze I barely bat en eye.

 

So true....wasnt even that long ago that freeze was better...... the only reaskn that freeze ever even gives me a problem is cause m2 is availabl so early, and i have m1 combo.... before its update in late 2015, i allways though freeze as the superior since it had a better DPS and it froze people....now it slows them so the DPS needs to had a much bigger increase...though if the devs increased it then it would be op with its damage.....they need to rethink freeze again....