category Let's Discuss Game Balance

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

 

While I've not read all 47 pages of comments, and since this seems the likely place to make my thoughts known. I'm a lowly ranked kind of guy struggling to rank up and get better equipment. I offer the following comments and thoughts for y'all to ponder.

First let me say, I really like this game, so much so I've stopped playing ALL others. That said, these are my comments and frustrations.

 

1) I wish there was a way to create a battle where only certain turrets are allowed to join. This would allow people to practice and learn from each other tactics for that weapon. I realize hull choice also affects game play/tactics but I'm talking about gaining weapon proficiency <sp>.

 

2) The following turrets are all highly disliked by me. In no particular order. Firebird, Freeze, Ricochete, Twins, Hammer, Rail. I'm of the opinion that the weapons should be representative of at least past or current battle tanks of the world war machine.

Firebird & Freeze just deal waaaaay too much dammage. Even the cover and run arguments are pointless since both turrets have an after effect on the targets. I will talk about paints below. So save it. plz

Rico & Twins not only too much damage but if you're using anything but a heavy hull they mess up your aim so you're unable to counter in time to survive unless you drug.

Hammer, another over powered turret. They just run around like mini shotguns. Two hits from it and my M1 wasp is toast. They deal too much damage even at a medium distance. When you try to back away while firing they still get way more damage on me than I think reasonable.

Rail, who thought of this turret? Product of your local space movie/game? Why is it able to shoot THROUGH other tanks and kill you? It's totally overpowered. Longest reload time I think helps, It's still an unrealistic weapon.

 

Now, I realize the people that work so hard to provide us all this wonderful game and give us the ability to complain about anything and everything, they need to eat too. But there are some of us who cannot afford to contribute.

Therefore please consider making things more affordable for those of us who's only choice is to put the time in battles in order to get crystals to "buy" our upgrades. M.U.'s are crazy priced, and so ain't the paints. Who but those that can afford to spend real money on their crystal bank can get multiple paints, M+ combos Even if you don't buy the M.U.'s and wait for the M1 - M3 + to unlock... they're unaffordable if you're buying them by time in game. (Especially when you suck like I do) I'll be years in game before I can get even a fraction of the M2's I see in a lot of people's garages. I think I do/have improved with hours spent in the game, but for me it's a difficult challenge ( I wouldn't want that to change either).

 

I'd like to see the ability for some mentorship from upper ranks to lower ranks.. IE .. hey u like the smokey / wasp combo? Do you need any help learning to use it to the best advantage? Ability then to create private battles and work on getting better. I know I've not covered it all in this one post. Reckon I may post more later.

 

Sorry, I know this is long winded for a NOOB. If I'm forever considered a noob for my thoughts. So be it.

jonas

 

 

 

The one thing i disagree with is Railgun...i do understand how it is simply awesome in the ranks and maybe a bit farther, but it has PLENTY of weaknesses. I think the big reason they are a problem for you is cause your a Wasp/Smokey player, and im assuming that this is your first account. Railguns can take you out pretty easily since your Wasp before your even in range to get a hit on them, and Wasp is also better suited for large map just like Railgun, so you probebly play many battles with them. First, i do reccomend useing Forester paint, as it has saved me countless times in the past since i can withstand 2 railgun M1 shots with my Hunter, while many others die from 2 hits, so i can cap a flag or almost always win a mini 1v1 with another railgun when im battling. I personelly hate Wasp alot because of its lack of versitility and armor, so i reccomend going with Hkrnet instead since it pairs with Smokey much better and is very cheap throughout all the ranks, so that may help you because of your low crystal income. Plus, M2 comes out pretty early so you will be able to get a nice hull sooner than you would with wasp. Yeah, Wasp has a great upgrade at M2, but Hornet M2 is cheap and it lasts until Gismo therefore you dont need to get M3 to play well, so its a very good deal if you ask me. I think you should stick with Smokey since it becomes so great at M2 and M3, but i also think you should get Railgun M2 so you can do XP/BP, as it will really increase your skills. If you dont want to do that, then you should get Firebird M1 and play Polygon CP matches, cause the exp level and battle funds are INSANE there. You will rank up and gain crystals way easier. I rarly use firebird now, since it becomes pretty bad around , but its dirt cheap and is just totally worth it ;)

 

You should just buy one of the things i advised and you will most likely see a big increase in your battle funds and exp gain :D

Edited March 25, 2016 by MrCheezyPotato

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

 

 

 

 

 

The one thing i disagree with is Railgun...i do understand how it is simply awesome in the ranks and maybe a bit farther, but it has PLENTY of weaknesses. I think the big reason they are a problem for you is cause your a Wasp/Smokey player, and im assuming that this is your first account. Railguns can take you out pretty easily since your Wasp before your even in range to get a hit on them, and Wasp is also better suited for large map just like Railgun, so you probebly play many battles with them. First, i do reccomend useing Forester paint, as it has saved me countless times in the past since i can withstand 2 railgun M1 shots with my Hunter, while many others die from 2 hits, so i can cap a flag or almost always win a mini 1v1 with another railgun when im battling. I personelly hate Wasp alot because of its lack of versitility and armor, so i reccomend going with Hkrnet instead since it pairs with Smokey much better and is very cheap throughout all the ranks, so that may help you because of your low crystal income. Plus, M2 comes out pretty early so you will be able to get a nice hull sooner than you would with wasp. Yeah, Wasp has a great upgrade at M2, but Hornet M2 is cheap and it lasts until Gismo therefore you dont need to get M3 to play well, so its a very good deal if you ask me. I think you should stick with Smokey since it becomes so great at M2 and M3, but i also think you should get Railgun M2 so you can do XP/BP, as it will really increase your skills. If you dont want to do that, then you should get Firebird M1 and play Polygon CP matches, cause the exp level and battle funds are INSANE there. You will rank up and gain crystals way easier. I rarly use firebird now, since it becomes pretty bad around , but its dirt cheap and is just totally worth it ;)

 

You should just buy one of the things i advised and you will most likely see a big increase in your battle funds and exp gain :D

Nice post and I agree with most point but: "ho, ho, ho easy...that line is a bit too much" ;)

 

Hornet M2 is a nice hull, but definitely won 't last till Gizmo: you should only take that path if you really like to rank slow and suffer...

No, when you become a Major General it 's about time to get that Hornet M3 believe me.

 

With Smoky in mind a nice ranking order with Wasp and Hornet imo is: Wasp M0, Wasp M1, Hornet M2 and finally Hornet M3.

Though Wasp M2 is an impressive hull, you can skip it, because Hornet M3 is "only" two ranks further.

 

Secondly I would stick with Smoky M1 and rather micro-upgrade it, instead of choosing a Firebird M1.

Though Firebird M1 is relatively cheap, there 's no better turret to build up those necessary basic skills imo than Smoky.

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

Nice post and I agree with most point but: "ho, ho, ho easy...that line is a bit too much" ;)

 

Hornet M2 is a nice hull, but definitely won 't last till Gizmo: you should only take that path if you really like to rank slow and suffer...

No, when you become a Major General it 's about time to get that Hornet M3 believe me.

 

With Smoky in mind a nice ranking order with Wasp and Hornet imo is: Wasp M0, Wasp M1, Hornet M2 and finally Hornet M3.

Though Wasp M2 is an impressive hull, you can skip it, because Hornet M3 is "only" two ranks further.

 

Secondly I would stick with Smoky M1 and rather micro-upgrade it, instead of choosing a Firebird M1.

Though Firebird M1 is relatively cheap, there 's no better turret to build up those necessary basic skills imo than Smoky.

Well first of all, Hornet M2 does last till gismo, beleive me, i know. I have played a gismo. I wont say the name cause it will probebly be banned, and im taking a bit of a risk by saying this with my account though :P God i hope im not banned for this :/ It was a while ago....

 

And i also think im a pretty good Honret player, so that may be why. I stopped useing my M0 hornet when i was WO4, and i started seeing M2 hornets at WO2…

 

And he also said he ranked very slow and got crystals slow, so the Firebird path could really help him out, and thats the main reason i even suggested it in the first place. It is nit that great for other maps, so he would still be doing smokey alot im guessing cause Polygon CP gets kinda borning after a while..... He woulbalso be using smokey bit more since its really versitile, while firebird is...well not so much, and it only lasts for a few ranks. I got it to be my 2nd most used turret in my past WO ranks, and would have been my 1st most used if i didnt love Rico so much, but i als used it sbmuch since Rico gets kinda bad at WO3 unless your pretty skilled since the energy goes down so quick(unless your a big DD drugger). I use it sometimes, but its hard since M2 will rek me.

 

What im basically saying is that Firebird will boost his crystals and exp while he will probebly still be good with Smokey

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Well first of all, Hornet M2 does last till gismo, beleive me, i know. I have played a gismo. I wont say the name cause it will probebly be banned, and im taking a bit of a risk by saying this with my account though :P God i hope im not banned for this :/ It was a while ago....

 

And i also think im a pretty good Honret player, so that may be why. I stopped useing my M0 hornet when i was WO4, and i started seeing M2 hornets at WO2…

 

And he also said he ranked very slow and got crystals slow, so the Firebird path could really help him out, and thats the main reason i even suggested it in the first place. It is nit that great for other maps, so he would still be doing smokey alot im guessing cause Polygon CP gets kinda borning after a while..... He woulbalso be using smokey bit more since its really versitile, while firebird is...well not so much, and it only lasts for a few ranks. I got it to be my 2nd most used turret in my past WO ranks, and would have been my 1st most used if i didnt love Rico so much, but i als used it sbmuch since Rico gets kinda bad at WO3 unless your pretty skilled since the energy goes down so quick(unless your a big DD drugger). I use it sometimes, but its hard since M2 will rek me.

 

What im basically saying is that Firebird will boost his crystals and exp while he will probebly still be good with Smokey

Though I said otherwise, I "admit" that Hornet M2 will last to Gizmo: even a Hornet M0 will if given time... :P

It 's for sure not the path I and most others would choose, a Hornet M3 can put up a much better fight than a Hornet M2.

A case of logic in my view.

 

Maybe Firebird M1 does a good job in gaining crystals, I really wouldn 't know because I never liked

playing with it. Even got a M2 during a sale, while I knew I didn 't like it...

The only thing I ve read on the forum about Firebird M1 is that it doesn 't last long.

No idea if that 's true personally, being an utter Firebird nub.

Though I do remember they were gradually disappearing during the WO ranks.

Edited March 25, 2016 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[jonas_fiz 6]

grrrrrrr I had this whole big reply to you nice people, I spent a long time going through stuff and press the post button... where oh where did it go??? aparantly there's a dang time limit on how long a person can be logged in here???  YO.. whoda thunk that? This needs to change for us slow typers :angry:

[Maf 32,300]

grrrrrrr I had this whole big reply to you nice people, I spent a long time going through stuff and press the post button... where oh where did it go??? aparantly there's a dang time limit on how long a person can be logged in here???  YO.. whoda thunk that? This needs to change for us slow typers :angry:

There isn't a limit on how long you can be afk, but these things do happen sometimes - if the forum had an error or your internet disconnects, I'm afraid you end up losing what you were going to post. Sometimes it does keep it saved and you can recover most of the content by pressing the "Last auto saved: xx_xx_xx" button on the bottom-left corner of the reply box, but you should always back up long forum replies in a text document on your device before posting just in case something happens.

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

grrrrrrr I had this whole big reply to you nice people, I spent a long time going through stuff and press the post button... where oh where did it go??? aparantly there's a dang time limit on how long a person can be logged in here???  YO.. whoda thunk that? This needs to change for us slow typers :angry:

Ouch...hate when that happens...especially since im mainly a mobile forums person...

[jonas_fiz 6]

There isn't a limit on how long you can be afk, but these things do happen sometimes - if the forum had an error or your internet disconnects, I'm afraid you end up losing what you were going to post. Sometimes it does keep it saved and you can recover most of the content by pressing the "Last auto saved: xx_xx_xx" button on the bottom-left corner of the reply box, but you should always back up long forum replies in a text document on your device before posting just in case something happens.

Ohh, I did not notice that bottom left trick.  But isn't it too late when you've already pressed the Post button and the page refreshes to the posts and yours is not there??

[jonas_fiz 6]

btw.. i was not AFK, I was sloooooowwwwwwwwwwly typing and reading the guys posts including them in a muliquote reply. Anyway I reckon i'm hafta do the .txt thing in the future. thanks

[Maf 32,300]

btw.. i was not AFK, I was sloooooowwwwwwwwwwly typing and reading the guys posts including them in a muliquote reply

As far as I know that's still considered being AFK. The forum only recognises your presence when you reload a page or load a new one. Anyway, I doubt that it would be the reason for your data loss.

[Maf 32,300]

Lieutenants, only allowed M1, are competing in battles with generals, allowed M3. Some idiots warped idea of fair. To make matters worse are druggers. Every update provides more supplies that allows more druggers every day. The higher their rank the more they drug. Drugging M3 generals are the biggest problem and admin created them. Forget ever playing a fair game again.

I have a few suggestions for you:

• Reduce the rank limits of the battles you create, using the grey arrow on the slider in the battle creation screen. That way you won't have low ranks entering your battles if you don't want them.
• Play PRO battles without supplies if you thing that druggers aren't playing fair.
• Buy supply kits yourself, because with the massive sales (up to 80%) the supplies in those kits are extremely cheap and you won't really be wasting your crystals.

[HammerOfPow 5]

WO5's used to play with Generalissimo's...

I actually remember a glitched(?) subway map that I got to play with generallisimos in. I was WO1 on my main at the time..

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

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I have a few suggestions for you:

• Reduce the rank limits of the battles you create, using the grey arrow on the slider in the battle creation screen. That way you won't have low ranks entering your battles if you don't want them.
• Play PRO battles without supplies if you thing that druggers aren't playing fair.
• Buy supply kits yourself, because with the massive sales (up to 80%) the supplies in those kits are extremely cheap and you won't really be wasting your crystals.

I'm going to add another one .

• Buy powerful M2 kits like Firewall. Atlas . Northerner . Boar . And the slightly less powerful Stinger and Tornado . Two of these kits are on my long term plan right now. Firewall for sure and pssibly Atlas (then I will have extremely powerful light medium and heavy M2 combos that will let me stand up to m3s fairly easily especially with fire m2 and titan i will make an amazing flag defender )

Edited March 25, 2016 by fordmustang12345

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Ohh, I did not notice that bottom left trick.  But isn't it too late when you've already pressed the Post button and the page refreshes to the posts and yours is not there??

Can 't tell you how frustrated I also felt the many times before I discovered the Last Auto Saved option.

Typing the whole post again <_<...a few times even again and again... <_< <_< 

 

Now it never lets me down. Just a matter of going to the same topic again, click on "reply to this topic",

next L.A.S. and let the magic begin! ;)

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

Can 't tell you how frustrated I also felt the many times before I discovered the Last Auto Saved option.

Typing the whole post again <_<...a few times even again and again... <_< <_< 

 

Now it never lets me down. Just a matter of going to the same topic again, click on "reply to this topic",

next L.A.S. and let the magic begin! ;)

Im guessing thats only on PC...right? :unsure:

[jonas_fiz 6]

Welcome to the forum! Firstly, thank you for presenting yourself in a great and detailed manner.

After looking through your post and your profile, I'd like to make a suggestion:

1. Try MUing your M1 Smoky or some other weapon until M2. I know you spent a lot of crystals on it, but it's not very good later on until M2.

2. Buy the Storm paint, it REALLY helps with all the Firebirds.

3. Invest some money in things other than looks when buying paints. Protection is priority.

 

Keep enjoying yourself.

~The-Operator

Thank you for the kind words. I got my M1's by doing M.U.'s. Why so many (50), and so expensive? I continue to M.U. the wasp-smokey combo when i earn enough crystals. Did I do something wrong with the first upgrades? After I finished the 50th it didn't show as M1 in my garage, so I looked and it said purchased M1 for like 6k I think it was. I thought after you did your M.U.'s it'd automaticly show the upgrade in the garage. Do ya all upgrade your combo of choice together or do the turret first then the hull? For now I think someone suggested forester for rail protection. Seems Storm is about 9k at my current rank. Really? I gotta wait that long before decent firebird prot?? ;)

I certainly agree protection is priority... Imma be that ugly kid on tha block boomin ya baby! :ph34r:

 

On my way tah M3

         jonas

[jonas_fiz 6]

I have an alt where I used M1 Wasp M1 Smoky. It's not easy to use, that's for sure. You have to take advantage of its maneuverability and the versatility of smoky to make the most out of it. You also gotta have good accuracy, be able to shoot while on the move, master turning your turret, and drive without flipping over the best you can. If you want, we can do as you suggested and set up a time where we can be in a 1 v 1 battle or we can play a regular map on the same team. Wasp Smoky is not a noob-friendly combo, that's for sure. I'm in central time which is -6 UTC.

I would love to meet you (alt) anytime for either 1v1 or team. that'd be soo cool. I'm eastern time since I live on the eastern side of the americas. Let me know what's usually good for you cuz I never know when i'm be on.

 

I love that wasp-smokey isn't noob-friendly!! I spent a fair bit of time learning not to flip, be flipped and run like the wind when I hadta! I admit, I still flip on newer maps, or when in that buttcheek squeezin ohhh bawls mode (can I say that?)  I also think it's the MOST FUN combo in the relm of tanki. I've surprised myself more than once in one of those... I'll never be able to do that again in a... moments. I love speed so wasp fits me. and gawd how awesome the rotation speed is on the smokey. Can't wait for M3 rotation!!

 

jonas

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

I would love to meet you (alt) anytime for either 1v1 or team. that'd be soo cool. I'm eastern time since I live on the eastern side of the americas. Let me know what's usually good for you cuz I never know when i'm be on.

 

I love that wasp-smokey isn't noob-friendly!! I spent a fair bit of time learning not to flip, be flipped and run like the wind when I hadta! I admit, I still flip on newer maps, or when in that buttcheek squeezin ohhh bawls mode (can I say that?)  I also think it's the MOST FUN combo in the relm of tanki. I've surprised myself more than once in one of those... I'll never be able to do that again in a... moments. I love speed so wasp fits me. and gawd how awesome the rotation speed is on the smokey. Can't wait for M3 rotation!!

 

jonas

Iv done wasp/smo,ey in my alt before multiple times, and i admit it was really fun while it could be tough to usesuper effectivly. Your big mistake though was doing mu on your M0 Smokey and Wasp though.....both have M1 that come out very quickly, so you wasted many crystals on that...doing alot of mu on you M1 Smokey and Wasp is a good thing though, since both come out in very high ranks. If you can master Smokey/Wasp, then you can do alot of other combos too though, so i guess you should stick with that. Btw, im EST too, sobwould you wanna battle sometime? I would say to have a Smokey war, but i have neither M1 Smokey or Wasp. Well tell me if you do want to either battle with me or against me sometime. I need some more practice since iv been getting a bit rusty lately...playing vulcan for hours ad hours doesent help me when i start to use turrets that require accuracy :P

[jonas_fiz 6]

 

K, I'm get rid of my original words and respond with yours. :D

Welcome to the Forum, nice first post! You seem to be a Smoky driver (good choice ;) ) so I will reply accordingly.

Wasp/Smoky is definitely not easy, but both hull and turret can last a long time certainly with some micro-upgrades which are very effective because the M2 's are very late upgrades in Rank (thus very strong).

Also Wasp M1 outclasses Hornet M1 when used properly imo.

 

If you feel you get stuck, than don 't give up but start again with a new account (maybe in TankiX?)

That will give you an advantage against other newer players, so you have more time to hone your developing skills.

You also have the possibility to avoid those now worthless purchases.

Thanks for the welcome. I'm upgrading it every time i get enough crystals. Due to upgrades my bank is at 23 right now. Time to battle soon. Here comes the BOOM! :ph34r:

 

Would be nice, I would love this with Smoky...

TO probably doesn 't do this, because you would see a huge raise in for example Wasp/Firebird battles where the kill ratio

would be out of the roof, and so would be the battlefund.

As a seperate training mode like Parkour mode, so you don 't gain XP or fund, it would be a nice addition.

I didn't think about the part about kill ratio - battlefund aspects. But yes, a  Training mode where no one gets any benefit other than learning from upper ranks. My vision for that is to Allow any upper rank to take one or more lower ranked people into a training battle. Perhaps make some sort of incentive available for the upper ranks to participate in training noobs :)

 

Still it 's all about keeping a safe distance from them. This never changes even when you are a Generalissimo.

Sometimes this is impossible like when respawning and as a Wasp/Smoky player you have to avoid small maps. 

With a light hull and Smoky: the larger the map, the better.

Close range turrets deal huge damage when they are able get close, but that 's also kinda fair because in other occassions when you are out of their reach they become your easy victims.

One of my fav maps so far is Esplanade. I love rolling out on the courtyard and being able to boom a sniper on the other side of the map! I get it, no small maps for me. Even still, when you are high speed for a flag capture, you're going to get up close to them dang OP turrets..  When you do and try to stay out of their cone of death there's still the after effect that often gets ya <_<

Rico & Twins not only too much damage but if you're using anything but a heavy hull they mess up your aim so you're unable to counter in time to survive unless you drug. True, there is no real remedy against it, except using speed to your advantage. Again try to create distance, Twins

hasn 't an impressive reach and Rico 's have a tougher job hitting you, because they have the disadvantage of delayed hits.

From nearby: your doomed.

delayed hits you say? Not for the first 30 seconds anyway. I try when I can to place my rounds on the outer corners of their hulls hoping for a bit of a hull push to mess up their aim too.

As a non-buyer Tanki isn 't easy. Nothing is impossible, but thing are tougher.

On the bright side: while a buyers/drugger can take it pretty easy, you have to evolve true skills.

Ohh man check my K/D ratio. I gots some skill mistah. I'm sooooo good at gettin killed soon I'm gona be that guy in the school yard.. the one that gets picked LAST  ;)   That's another reason I'd like to learn from other upper ranks. help mah skills is goin the wrong way!!

 

In general: stick with one combo and don 't waste many crystals on paints.

Only paints I would recommend are Forester and later on Tundra, which are great against the very common and hard to avoid Railgun.

Ok, you do lack protection against other hulls, but especially with a light hull, multiple protections are often too low.

And if a Tanker has a lot of brilliant paints against one turret, they always have to choose the right one and what is the right one in

a battlefield with all kinds of turrets? Save yourself the hassle and crystals and stick with as few paints as possible.

Instead invest those crystals in micro-upgrading your equipment. Especially your turret.

About drugging: don 't rely on it when low ranked but improve your skills first. Later on start using them and in the case of

Wasp/Smoky the red Double Damage should be the one to buy if you are ever going to buy drugs.

 

 

I'd like to see the ability for some mentorship from upper ranks to lower ranks.. IE .. hey u like the smokey / wasp combo? Do you need any help learning to use it to the best advantage?  Ability then to create private battles and work on getting better. I know I've not covered it all in this one post. Reckon I may post more later. Nice idea. Now you have to especially make an alt to do so.

 

Sorry, I know this is long winded for a NOOB. If I'm forever considered a noob for my thoughts. So be it.

Not a noob, far from it. All the best in your endeavours!

jonas

Thanks for all your great advice and taking the time to write it. I'm going to be referring to this for a while to come. ;)

 

jonas

[jonas_fiz 6]

Iv done wasp/smo,ey in my alt before multiple times, and i admit it was really fun while it could be tough to usesuper effectivly. Your big mistake though was doing mu on your M0 Smokey and Wasp though.....both have M1 that come out very quickly, so you wasted many crystals on that

Ohhh thanks, now ya tell me!! hehe

...doing alot of mu on you M1 Smokey and Wasp is a good thing though, since both come out in very high ranks. If you can master Smokey/Wasp, then you can do alot of other combos too though, so i guess you should stick with that. Btw, im EST too, sobwould you wanna battle sometime? I would say to have a Smokey war, but i have neither M1 Smokey or Wasp. Well tell me if you do want to either battle with me or against me sometime. I need some more practice since iv been getting a bit rusty lately...playing vulcan for hours ad hours doesent help me when i start to use turrets that require accuracy :P

Sure, I'd like to battle with or against. anytime.  Haha your one of them vulcan campers huh. I prefer to camp with a shaft. I see you're currently playin with a rail-hunter. I hate rails :P  Ohh and NO PRACTICE  you prolly forgot more than I know yet. ;) hehe

 

Here comes tha BOOM!

jonas

[MrCheezyPotato 850]

Sure, I'd like to battle with or against. anytime.  Haha your one of them vulcan campers huh. I prefer to camp with a shaft. I see you're currently playin with a rail-hunter. I hate rails :P  Ohh and NO PRACTICE  you prolly forgot more than I know yet. ;) hehe

 

Here comes tha BOOM!

jonas

Well, i wouldnt say im camping… im just avoiding people by staying way in the corner of the map the sniping them :P

 

Ind i actually havent even played this account(besides today) for ablittle while now, as iv been useing my Vulcan account(my account that i deicated to only useing Vulcan and occasionally Smokey if needed) for many hours this past wee and last week, so im missing so many easy shots with my railgun.

 

And btw, i used to not like fighting or useng Railgun at your rank, then i bought M1 during the big Christmas sale. Ever since then iv loved it, and i can turn a battle around with it alot of times :D

Maybe it would be good for me if we did a duel while you had Wasp/Smokey and i had Hornet/Smokey...what do you think? It would pribebky be better if we did that before i bought M2 hornet :P

[ZippytheHippy 2]

Why do you think Tanki sells OP kits like Atlas. Firewall. Northerner . Minotaur. and other powerful m2 kits? Seriously Firewall is an Amazing kit and is on my long term plan all you need to do is get a few good kits and you should be able to take on m3s with no problem ;)

Until I meet a general with M3 and one of those over powered kits drugging.

[Benefactor 6,888]

Why do you think Tanki sells OP kits like Atlas. Firewall. Northerner . Minotaur. and other powerful m2 kits? Seriously Firewall is an Amazing kit and is on my long term plan all you need to do is get a few good kits and you should be able to take on m3s with no problem ;)

M3 turrets aren't an issue. It becomes an issue when they are MU'd to M4 and then jacked up with DD. They'll eat up any M2 hulls or lesser no matter the paint protection or MU (unless it is up to M3).

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K, I'm get rid of my original words and respond with yours. :D  copyright... :P

Welcome to the Forum, nice first post! You seem to be a Smoky driver (good choice ;) ) so I will reply accordingly.

Wasp/Smoky is definitely not easy, but both hull and turret can last a long time certainly with some micro-upgrades which are very effective because the M2 's are very late upgrades in Rank (thus very strong).

Also Wasp M1 outclasses Hornet M1 when used properly imo.

 

If you feel you get stuck, than don 't give up but start again with a new account (maybe in TankiX?)

That will give you an advantage against other newer players, so you have more time to hone your developing skills.

You also have the possibility to avoid those now worthless purchases.

Thanks for the welcome. I'm upgrading it every time i get enough crystals. Due to upgrades my bank is at 23 right now. Time to battle soon. Here comes the BOOM! :ph34r:  You already know about rocking/tipping I assume. If not than just ask.

 

Would be nice, I would love this with Smoky...

TO probably doesn 't do this, because you would see a huge raise in for example Wasp/Firebird battles where the kill ratio

would be out of the roof, and so would be the battlefund.

As a seperate training mode like Parkour mode, so you don 't gain XP or fund, it would be a nice addition.

I didn't think about the part about kill ratio - battlefund aspects. But yes, a  Training mode where no one gets any benefit other than learning from upper ranks. My vision for that is to Allow any upper rank to take one or more lower ranked people into a training battle. Perhaps make some sort of incentive available for the upper ranks to participate in training noobs :) 

 

Still it 's all about keeping a safe distance from them. This never changes even when you are a Generalissimo.

Sometimes this is impossible like when respawning and as a Wasp/Smoky player you have to avoid small maps. 

With a light hull and Smoky: the larger the map, the better.

Close range turrets deal huge damage when they are able get close, but that 's also kinda fair because in other occassions when you are out of their reach they become your easy victims.

One of my fav maps so far is Esplanade. I love rolling out on the courtyard and being able to boom a sniper on the other side of the map! I get it, no small maps for me. Even still, when you are high speed for a flag capture, you're going to get up close to them dang OP turrets..  When you do and try to stay out of their cone of death there's still the after effect that often gets ya <_<  

All you can do is wait for the right moments to cap. Wait till the enemy gets distracted by attacking teammembers.

One man flag-capturing are mostly suicide missions. Maybe to obvious, but it 's true.

Rico & Twins not only too much damage but if you're using anything but a heavy hull they mess up your aim so you're unable to counter in time to survive unless you drug. True, there is no real remedy against it, except using speed to your advantage. Again try to create distance, Twins

hasn 't an impressive reach and Rico 's have a tougher job hitting you, because they have the disadvantage of delayed hits.

From nearby: your doomed.

delayed hits you say? Not for the first 30 seconds anyway. I try when I can to place my rounds on the outer corners of their hulls hoping for a bit of a hull push to mess up their aim too. No, which delayed hits I mean that  the plasma balls take some time to reach you. If you have enough distance and especially if you move perpendicular to the Ricochet, you can outmanoeuvre quite some balls with that speedy Wasp.

Even than it 's hard though. Tough opponents those Rico 's.

As a non-buyer Tanki isn 't easy. Nothing is impossible, but thing are tougher.

On the bright side: while a buyers/drugger can take it pretty easy, you have to evolve true skills.

Ohh man check my K/D ratio. I gots some skill mistah. I'm sooooo good at gettin killed soon I'm gona be that guy in the school yard.. the one that gets picked LAST  ;)   That's another reason I'd like to learn from other upper ranks. help mah skills is goin the wrong way!!

Playing against higher ranks is always good, even try sometimes battles, you are just allowed to enter with your rank.

It 's a hard school but it can pay off. You might learn a thing or two.

And again I repeat it could be a good idea to start all over, I did it multiple times till I got it right or at least felt 

I was good enough to focus on ranking.

If you are not happy where you are now, take a step back and make Tanki life easier for yourself.

You will rank just as fast as you start over a few times in your early carreer than a Tanker who slowly carries on on a battlefield that only gets harder and harder. "A good start is half the battle"

 

 

In general: stick with one combo and don 't waste many crystals on paints.

Only paints I would recommend are Forester and later on Tundra, which are great against the very common and hard to avoid Railgun.

Ok, you do lack protection against other hulls, but especially with a light hull, multiple protections are often too low.

And if a Tanker has a lot of brilliant paints against one turret, they always have to choose the right one and what is the right one in

a battlefield with all kinds of turrets? Save yourself the hassle and crystals and stick with as few paints as possible.

Instead invest those crystals in micro-upgrading your equipment. As @MrCheezyPotato said: don 't waste crystals on

micro-upgrading M0 equipment. The next upgrade comes soon enough. Only with late upgrades like Wasp M1 and Smoky M1

towards M2 it 's worth it to do some micro-upgrading.

Especially your turret.

About drugging: don 't rely on it when low ranked but improve your skills first. Later on start using them and in the case of

Wasp/Smoky the red Double Damage should be the one to buy if you are ever going to buy drugs.

 

 

I'd like to see the ability for some mentorship from upper ranks to lower ranks.. IE .. hey u like the smokey / wasp combo? Do you need any help learning to use it to the best advantage?  Ability then to create private battles and work on getting better. I know I've not covered it all in this one post. Reckon I may post more later. Nice idea. Now you have to especially make an alt to do so.

 

Sorry, I know this is long winded for a NOOB. If I'm forever considered a noob for my thoughts. So be it.

Not a noob, far from it. All the best in your endeavours!

jonas

Thanks for all your great advice and taking the time to write it. I'm going to be referring to this for a while to come. ;)

My pleasure! :)

 

jonas

 

Edited March 26, 2016 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

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I remember recently fighting in a battle against two Commanders. One used Hammer M3 + Viking M3, which were both MUd halfway to M4 (he told me so). The other used Railgun M3 + Wasp M3. This battle was on a large map, Serpuhov. With my Firewall Kit I could occasionally kill the Hammer M3 + Viking M3, despite the fact he used repair kits and drugs. I eventually switched to Firebird M2 + Wasp M1 and then soon afterward the other Commander joined. I managed to kill him with my Firebird's burn a lot and could use shortcuts to catch him. He left because he was beaten up so badly. Soon after this the battle ended. If you have skill and some good M2s you should have a chance against the M3s.