What kind of experiment is this?

[DanTheKiller1 2,889]

 

Seriously,what do you want to test? How much you can anger your players,how many will quit Flash for X,what?

Mods,for the respect for us,community,don`t lock this,I hope you community manager will answer us,because this is getting absurd and it`s disrespectful for players

Don`t take me with the EULA,we are humans,not robots,have a little respect and bravery and tell us what`s up with this

[HichigoShiiro 4,378]

Its an experiment to see how many people will buy premium to get 50% extra xp 

Edited November 5, 2015 by HichigoShiiro

[Papaya14 481]

Likely this is a result of the Premium accounts offering score multipliers. Tanki wants to make this feature even more exclusive, it seems. And we all know how experiments like these usually turn out. "If you've been wanting to get yourself an SMP, we recommend you don't miss this chance!" pretty much tells us here what the result will be.

 

This will be a shame for the smaller players who want to quickly rank up with their friends. But it will also be a godsend to older players who've been complaining about Gissimos with little to no actual experience.

 

What's next to become exclusive only for paying customers? PRO battle pass? We'll have to wait and see.

Edited November 5, 2015 by Papaya14

[Cor7y 13,862]

This isn't an "experiment", mate.

[CaptainMaxwell7 231]

This isn't an "experiment", mate.

Your name explains a lot. Jk no offence.

 

From what I see, it's all about money.

 

My number of posts is something!

Edited November 5, 2015 by CaptainMaxwell7

[lukey0 27,543]

This word "Experiment" in Tanki's dictionary mean's "remove". They have said this so many times and every time the thing they were "experimenting" was removed.

[Satans-Rotweiler 45]

Interesting ....

 

wonder how long it will be before they remove turrets for free to play guys. Just drive around and get shot by drugged up premium accounts  :D

 

It wouldn't surprise me only for it would probably affect drug sales. 

 

But it is sad that the flash community has been reduced to guinea pigs for unity. 

[Cor7y 13,862]

I am just waiting for a staff member to attempt at defending Tanki haha.

Don't worry, comrade, staff members are clever !

 

[sarcasm)

[swede1 1,726]

 

Seriously,what do you want to test? How much you can anger your players,how many will quit Flash for X,what?

Mods,for the respect for us,community,don`t lock this,I hope you community manager will answer us,because this is getting absurd and it`s disrespectful for players

Don`t take me with the EULA,we are humans,not robots,have a little respect and bravery and tell us what`s up with this

Lets break down what it effects,

1st it effects how fast you rank up, Tanki has changed the time it takes to get to Generalissimo several times

2nd it affects crystals earned over the duration of rank and availability of unlocks, meaning you will have more time to save for items, lowering the need to supplement to keep up and stay competitive.

3rd it extends the time required to preform exp based missions, the rare 99999 exp super missions will take 30% longer to complete thus reducing the value time ratio.

4th it will build friendships more and keep active players playing together throughout their career.

5th it will increase  the number of supplies needed by up to 70% more as a result of longer time through career.

6th the SMP has been hurting gameplay in higher rank battles because garages have not been staying competitive. I have seen a lot of new Generalissimos with inadequate garages, creating one sided battles and making the vast majority of players losing battles too often. 20% of the players win 90% of the games.

[doduobird 315]

Tanki we're not your lab rats stop experimenting with us

You took away buying xp, you took away all the good sales, you took away crystal boxes and now you're taking away SMPs

[swede1 1,726]

Tanki we're not your lab rats stop experimenting with us

You took away buying xp, you took away all the good sales, you took away crystal boxes and now you're taking away SMPs

The only way developers can fix a broken economic system is to have a base reference point, and actually see where the problems lie. I hope this is their goal, because earning an average of 1000 crystals per hr of gameplay for an active Gissmo is pitiful.

[r_GaIaxy2 8,611]

Tanki we're not your lab rats stop experimenting with us

You took away buying xp, you took away all the good sales, you took away crystal boxes and now you're taking away SMPs

First of all, they own and run the game, so they can change whatever they like at the drop of a hat.

 

Secondly,

Buying XP means you could be a Generalissimo without having to have played for a second, which sucks for those that worked hard to earn that status. As swede1 said, with tankers taking more time to rank up it gives them more time to get good equipment, refine their skills and compete in fair matches, not completely one sided ones 

 

Like 2 sales were slightly disappointing, but they added personal discounts and the 10%, 20%, 30% thing as well. 

 

Crystal boxes were awesome, especially since I was the only one that bothered to collect them :D but now the cry goes directly into the fund so you earn more after battles :)

 

This wont be too bad. Your commander already so there isn't far to go for you...

Its just an experiment. Don't whine yet, save it for if it becomes official (which it hopefully won't)

Edited November 5, 2015 by r_GaIaxy2

[beaku 2,656]

Taking away SMP? Hardly affects me as I've never used one. I just fail to see the point of it. :mellow:

[doduobird 315]

First of all, they own and run the game, so they can change whatever they like at the drop of a hat.

 

Secondly,

Buying XP means you could be a Generalissimo without having to have played for a second, which sucks for those that worked hard to earn that status. As swede1 said, with tankers taking more time to rank up it gives them more time to get good equipment, refine their skills and compete in fair matches, not completely one sided ones 

 

Like 2 sales were slightly disappointing, but they added personal discounts and the 10%, 20%, 30% thing as well. 

 

Crystal boxes were awesome, especially since I was the only one that bothered to collect them :D but now the cry goes directly into the fund so you earn more after battles :)

 

This wont be too bad. Your commander already so there isn't far to go for you...

Its just an experiment. Don't whine yet, save it for if it becomes official (which it hopefully won't)

Yes they own the game and they can do anything they want with it, but taking away SMPs is just stupid, it literally has no advantages, besides giving buyers even more of an advantage because now earning 50% more xp is exclusive to them. Buying xp also means that if there's a sale around the corner and you have some extra crystals to spare but you're just that 10,000 xp from ranking up, you can spedn 10000 crys to rank up, get the rank up crystal bonus and get something nice on the sale. If you're a recruit and you decide to buy your rank to generalissimo, it's completely your decision and honestly, only a really hardcore buyer or someone that's just really stupid would do that (note I'm not saying buyers are stupid). 

 

"it's just an experiment"

you and I both know that this is not an experiment. Crystal boxes were experiments. The super fast turning camera that gave everyone a headache for 2 days was also an experiment. In the history of tanki, experiments have never been good. The SMP will be gone on november 6, and I'll bet the bank that it won't come back. 

Edited November 6, 2015 by doduobird

[r_GaIaxy2 8,611]

"it's just an experiment"

you and I both know that this is not an experiment. Crystal boxes were experiments. The super fast turning camera that gave everyone a headache for 2 days was also an experiment. In the history of tanki, experiments have never been good. The SMP will be gone on november 6, and I'll bet the bank that it won't come back. 

Gold boxes dropping instantly - Everyone hated it so they gave us 30 seconds instead of 2 minutes, which made it way better

Crystal Boxes worked out well, as now you have to play in a battle to earn crystals. It only really affected lower ranks, and they made the fund grow faster at those ranks

Faster Camera came with a solution, but now everyone is used to it and to be honest, even I over reacted about how "bad" the faster camera was

 

If it stays away, all it will do is give players more time to rank up, earn crystals and have more appropriate equipment for their rank.

Now there won't be tankers stuck at commander with no m3 turrets *cough* me *cough*

Edited November 6, 2015 by r_GaIaxy2

[doduobird 315]

Crystal boxes worked out well? Lower ranks hardly know how to turn their turret and there is no way without crystal boxes that they are going to save up for M1s. Taking away crystal boxes was arguably one of the worst updates ever, now people who don't have the time to play in long battles or use lots of supplies are having a hard time earning crystals. The thing about goldboxes wasn't an experiment, it was a very obvious and simple solution. Tanki actually listened to our feedback. Crystal boxes and the taking away of SMPs are true experiments, because tanki never asked us about what we thought of it. The faster camera thing was horrible, I basically quit tanki for a week because I would just get headaches whenever I tried to aim with rail. Yeah everyone eventually got used to it but the update was basically pointless, afaik. No cry boxes forced you to play a battle to the end to get crystals, but people still did that before the update, they would fight in the battle and perhaps on the way to capping a flag they'd just pick up a few cry boxes here and there, it didn't really dramatically affect gameplay, there are still many mults in battles even after the update. Yeah sure the fund becomes bigger but nothing can really match the satisfication of your tank driving through a cluster of crystal boxes, and to be honest, these days getting first place in a 15 minute battle only gets you like 600 - 700 crystals, whereas back in the day, playing in a 15 minute battle collecting cry boxes whilst still playing your hardest could get you basically 500 guaranteed crystals, with very little skill involved and you don't even have to be first place on your team. It was much easier for a less skilled player or someone who had weaker equipment to earn crystals. 

Edited November 6, 2015 by doduobird

[r_GaIaxy2 8,611]

Crystal boxes worked out well? Lower ranks hardly know how to turn their turret and there is no way without crystal boxes that they are going to save up for M1s. Taking away crystal boxes was arguably one of the worst updates ever, now people who don't have the time to play in long battles or use lots of supplies are having a hard time earning crystals.

 

Crystal Boxes worked out well, as now you have to play in a battle to earn crystals. It only really affected lower ranks, and they made the fund grow faster at those ranks

 

You don't just publish a game and leave it as it is. You build on it, make it grow and adapt to the needs of the game and community.The economy in Tanki is really sensitive ATM, so they are finding ways to make it more stable and fair. Everyone hated Premium when they announced it, but now I rarely see anyone complaining. 

 

Don't just hate on an update, give ideas on how to make it work, as I have learnt. Constructive criticism works wonders. 

[lukey0 27,543]

Crystal boxes were awesome, especially since I was the only one that bothered to collect them :D but now the cry goes directly into the fund so you earn more after battles :)

Pls don't say they go to the fund, if they did it would be double funds everyday, but do you see that happening? No.  The amount of fund was the amounts of crystals falling from the sky. Really funds have had almost no change since the removal. So instead everyone is left battle for hours will little income with know bad sales coming soon so yea. 

 

Gold boxes dropping instantly - Everyone hated it so they gave us 30 seconds instead of 2 minutes, which made it way better

Crystal Boxes worked out well, as now you have to play in a battle to earn crystals. It only really affected lower ranks, and they made the fund grow faster at those ranks

The Gold box had to change. Every battle was full of mult waiting. It was like before "Gold box will be dropped soon". 

 

Also with the removal of crystal boxes there has been a massive increase of Gold sitters that will do nothing but sabotage the team and wait for the Gold. With crystal boxes at least we could kill them and generate more fund. :LOL:

 

 

Really there hasn't been many good updates for a long time. Also todays: Premiums get 100% more crystals after each battle, isn't that great! 

[lukey0 27,543]

You don't just publish a game and leave it as it is. You build on it, make it grow and adapt to the needs of the game and community.The economy in Tanki is really sensitive ATM, so they are finding ways to make it more stable and fair. Everyone hated Premium when they announced it, but now I rarely see anyone complaining. 

 

Don't just hate on an update, give ideas on how to make it work, as I have learnt. Constructive criticism works wonders. 

Woops, I just did. :P

 

 

Constructive criticism works yes, but only if it is actually read. Most ideas are abandoned or unknown. 

[doduobird 315]

You don't just publish a game and leave it as it is. You build on it, make it grow and adapt to the needs of the game and community.The economy in Tanki is really sensitive ATM, so they are finding ways to make it more stable and fair. Everyone hated Premium when they announced it, but now I rarely see anyone complaining. 

 

Don't just hate on an update, give ideas on how to make it work, as I have learnt. Constructive criticism works wonders. 

Yes you build on it and you make it grow and adapt it to the needs of the community. Does the community need buyers getting even more of an advantage? Does the community need random pointless updates and "experiments"? No. The economy in tanki is really sensitive right now. And you know what, they're only making it worse. Allowing premium users to get 50% more crystals will cause inflation and make crystals less valuable, hurting the economy even more. Everyone hated premium when they announced it, and everyone still does. Know the reason why they're not complaining now? Because nothing is going to change even if they complain. 

 

Yeah constructive criticism works wonders, but only if the devs actually make the changes that we suggest. Give ideas on how to make an update work? Why the hell should I give ideas on an update and try to make it work when it is inherently flawed from the very begininng? 

[freakyninja 42]

yes, listen to the community! we are the people who play your games and we should decide what happens to the game! the only reason this would be acceptable would be if you were running out of money, and i dont think so since tanki X looks really great and you guys seem pretty well off.

[lukey0 27,543]

Tanki X is literally Tanki Online's last hope. Their put so much time into it that they have forgotten about this game. I honestly don't think the Deves care about flash anymore, all focus and care will be put into Unity.

[dragonssk1 334]

Tanki X is literally Tanki Online's last hope. Their put so much time into it that they have forgotten about this game. I honestly don't think the Deves care about flash anymore, all focus and care will be put into Unity.

I really don't want to say this, but I hope Tanki suffer financial problems after Tanki X backfiring.

[r_GaIaxy2 8,611]

Woops, I just did. :P

Rarely :P

 

Constructive criticism works yes, but only if it is actually read. Most ideas are abandoned or unknown.

Well we all cried out that the Premium paint would be too OP and suggested at least 15% or preferably none, and they listened.

 

With the majority of players crying about how its bad and not giving feedback on how to make it work for everyone, its hard to find a good piece of constructive criticism that seems fair and can actually be implemented. 

 

Pls don't say they go to the fund, if they did it would be double funds everyday, but do you see that happening? No.  The amount of fund was the amounts of crystals falling from the sky.

I don't think that they were even. There was a slight increase in funds, not enough to make up for it as far as I believe, but there was an increase. 

[ApocalypseCow 39]

I am going to start this out by saying I am a buyer....

 

I have been a buyer since I started tanki, but I am very disappointed in their most recent updates. I know they are a business and need money to continue on, but I don't think this is the way to go about it. They have literally taken anything that might give even a slight advantage and given it to the premium tankers. I do hope I am wrong about this, but this is not an experiment. They have already made up their minds what they are going to do...

 

I have played some other online games that literally gave buyers abilities that only hackers could get, including the ability to fly and 1 hit kill anyone with any armor. I really enjoyed the fact that I could play tanki without buying and that buyers wouldn't get too many advantages over me or vice versa.

 

As a buyer I do like some of the aspects of being a premium member, but you don't have to take all things good and give it to the buyers.