Changes to micro-upgrades

[Rolling_Thunder69 34]

I really don't like this update!!  You are forced to upgrade on things you don't want or more importantly don't NEED.

 

 

 

 

 

[AUGU66 95]

This is worth repeating.

The average tanki player is probably a 9 year old kid who is easily impressed by these alledged 'improvements' in the game because they think they are personally benefiting. They do not really understand the ramifications.

 

If I had just started playing tanki now, I simply wouldn't have bothered to continue playing it. This new upgrade removes the most interesting part of the game. I feel like I have wasted a lot of time, and feel worse for the people who have wasted dollars.

 

You are right. I agree.

[Black-hawk-777 10]

This update is going to ruin the game. The staff of tanki seriously needs some statistics from the game to understand how this is seriously going to ruin the gameplay like hell. Tanki staff is just going nuts. They are ruining the game update after update. You may ban me from forum but please understand my point first. I will give some interesting stats. These stats WILL definitely be ignored by all those selfish tankers whose equipment has got maxed due to maxly upgrading just one of the parameters earlier. THIS IS VERY UNFAIR VERY VERY UNFAIR tanki!. And you selfish tankers are worthless to improve the gameplay by giving suggestions to tanki.

 

THE example:

This is from the earlier stats of a particular gun. I choose to explain for smoky m0 as it has the most parameters (7).

 

Damage (11 parameters)

Impact force (24 parameters)

Reload time (5 parameters)

Rotation speed (25 parameters)

Range (16 parameters)

Critical chance (25 parameters)

Critical damage (25 parameters)

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Total parameters = 11 + 24 + 5 + 25 + 16 + 25 + 25 = 121 parameters to be upgraded.

 

NOW, i will explain the rubbish that tanki has just done. Suppose some tanker has upgraded critical damage completely : that is just FREAKING 25 parameters ONLY out of a whole 121!

This means he has upgraded his turret by just (25/121)*100 % = 20.66%

And stupid tanki is giving him the whole free turret! That is just like the tanker is being spoonfed the rest of the parameters. DOES FREAKING ANYONE give a 100% upgraded stuff to a guy who has just upgraded his stuff by 20.66%?

 

Ideally on the other hand, this guy has upgraded his stuff by 20.66% so that means that the tanker should get the new parameters such that it represents 20.66% percent of 50.

50 * 20.66% = 10.33 parameters.

THE TANKER SHOULD HENCE JUST GET A GUN OF 11 PARAMETERS UPGRADED! DO YOU FREAKING UNDERSTAND ME TANKI!!!!!? 

 

This update is just so rubbish except for the fact about speed-ups which is more sensible than before IMO.

 

I HOPE MY CRITICAL REVIEW OF THIS UPDATE WILL GET SOME SENSE TO TANKI DEVS!

 

 

 

ALSO, another important thing that Tanki is not understanding! Currently I have about 245000 crystals. I am saving up for the Christmas sale but suppose on some particular instance I want to upgrade something like suppose the reload of my M3 Railgun. That would have cost me 2448 crystals if it were as earlier BUT now, I have to freaking spend about 7000 crystals for a complete upgrade of all the parameters that I do not even want to upgrade.

WHAT SENSE DOES THIS MAKE.

 

THIS IS FOR ALL WHO UNDERSTAND MY MATH and TANKI should implement this or keeps GETTING DISLIKES even though we cant give them anymore!

 

[DiSoRderLY 141]

So, first things first.

 

I snap shottedthat post so if it is deleted EVERYONE can still see it if I decide to post it up again.

Please, do feel free to post this everywhere you like ;) And while you're at it please add: 'window shoppers don't pay Tanki's bills'

[FogOfWar_XXX 793]

With respect to everyone on the tanki team, I am not sold on this change, because I don't think I understand the motivation behind it.

As a player, I see two drawbacks.  

 

Firstly, the possiblility to customize your tank is decreased.  So, logically there are now less tactical possiblilites in the game. There is less variety in terms of tanks and "specialization"of tanks.  It cuts off various possibilities.

 

Secondly, the distribution of advantages seems really uneven.  Some players will benefit massively from this change and others will lose out massively.   If you had upgraded one parameter to the maximum, you benefit.  If not, you lose out.  Either way, the change might be quite random and not a result of careful planning, strategy or skill.

 

Now, maybe there are effects on the game as a whole that are good.   For example, If it takes less time for the system to chomp the numbers; that is, if the data takes less time to process, then this could make all game play smoother.  Another possibility is that it will encourage new players to spend more money because the upgrade system is easier to understand, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

 

However, from the point of view of an old player, I hope that this change won't carry over to Tanki X, because I think it is fun to make a really original tank.  

I think I can gander a reason for the dev team implementing this.

 

Clever players like me were good at hitting the wiki, looking at what maxed up upgrades gave you what discounts on the next turrets, and we bought often times accordingly, though to the Tanki teams cedit, those discounts were well within the percentages of the monies (oh, so sorry BUYERS, crystals, for us LAME PEOPLE WHO EARNED THEIRS IN BATTLE)spent on said upgrades.  I was inline for a huge discount on my next Shaft with upgrades I got.  I'm thinking devs saw this as threat to people NOT upgrading the rest of the params because as you incrementally upgraded the better discounting ones, you were getting closer to ranking to a point where you could just buy the discounted turret, rather than keep upgrading the other parameters.  That meant you wouldn't spend more on the ancillary upgrades that were of less importance to you.  This way now, to get any one particular upgrade to where you want it, you need to throw quid at the rest.  Again, this is not the greatest idea in terms of player satisfaction, but at least everyone has to deal with its, not just on class of player.

Edited November 12, 2015 by FogOfWar_XXX

[Benefactor 6,888]

Let's go back to the individual parameter upgrades..... But leave everything else as is. B)

[D_R_I_N_K 29]

Tanki Online, you are awesome game, but in last one year you did so much stupid updates that i feel sorry to give you so much money. I wish i didn't start investing , but it was nice before. And now , just before you launch your tanki x , try to squizze as much as you can from tanki online players .
Am i not right TO!? 

Have fun, be free and i will move my investment in some other place.

[DrazaMihajlovic 11]

ME TO!!! 

[Black-hawk-777 10]

Before update: Twins m3 damage(14.4-17.7 → 17.0-21.0)

 

After update : My Twins m3 max damage ( 15.4-19.0) no more parameter.

 

can you explain that to me tankiii???

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

so now my high account,which had thunder m4 at damage and reload,dic m4 just at hp,is now a wonderfull full m4 m4!!!

Thank you tanki :D

Force be with you!

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

Tanki Online, you are awesome game, but in last one year you did so much stupid updates that i feel sorry to give you so much money. I wish i didn't start investing , but it was nice before. And now , just before you launch your tanki x , try to squizze as much as you can from tanki online players .

Am i not right TO!?

 

Have fun, be free and i will move my investment in some other place.

^ +++

 

 

sorry guys, today is the first day since ages, that I ran out of upvotes (kept upvoting all those that wrote how bad this update really is)

 

Good thing is, that - up to now - no community manager comes here does his job by explaining us that this update is good for the players.

Simplification and such stuff.. This rip-off today feels more honest then the last ones :)

 

Almost an improvement. Almost ;)

Edited November 12, 2015 by Rohrmeister

[BicShot 30]

I do not care for this bundling of micro-upgrade. I only upgrade the parameters that best fit my play style.  This is a lot like the cable TV. I have to pay for 500 channels, just to get the few channels I wanted. : (

[VirtualWildHogs 66]

Edited November 19, 2015 by VirtualWildHogs

[deadmanrising 715]

You are missing a fact... which they will say... "Play pro battles with micro-upgrades disabled".

If it were cheaper i'd be into it, but its not and i can't play long enough to earn those crystals back, im not someone who plays every single day or even weeks perhaps, im also not someone who's going to invest in something that would probably later be a waste of money

[DiSoRderLY 141]

(oh, so sorry BUYERS, crystals, for us LAME PEOPLE WHO EARNED THEIRS IN BATTLE)

LOL! You have humor, I like that :)

 

I think I can gander a reason for the dev team implementing this.

 

Clever players like me were good at hitting the wiki, looking at what maxed up upgrades gave you what discounts on the next turrets, and we bought often times accordingly, though to the Tanki teams cedit, those discounts were well within the percentages of the monies (oh, so sorry BUYERS, crystals, for us LAME PEOPLE WHO EARNED THEIRS IN BATTLE)spent on said upgrades.  I was inline for a huge discount on my next Shaft with upgrades I got.  I'm thinking devs saw this as threat to people NOT upgrading the rest of the params because as you incrementally upgraded the better discounting ones, you were getting closer to ranking to a point where you could just buy the discounted turret, rather than keep upgrading the other parameters.  That meant you wouldn't spend more on the ancillary upgrades that were of less importance to you.  This way now, to get any one particular upgrade to where you want it, you need to throw quid at the rest.  Again, this is not the greatest idea in terms of player satisfaction, but at least everyone has to deal with its, not just on class of player.

Please let me remind you, this update has created a huge gap. A gap between players whom already owned M3's and those who are about to. They have to upgrade all, if they want to maximize only one parameter. Window shoppers (LOL) could before, but as of now spending some real cash seems inevitable to keep up the pace.

 

Only time can tell what going to happen...

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

You are missing a fact... which they will say... "Play pro battles with micro-upgrades disabled".

I, for myself, don't care much as from the time I was introduced to XP/BP CP battles, I rarely play normal games. And I already have 1 m4 to suffice in m4 battles and bunch of m3.+'s converted to better m3.+'s.

^++ again I would upvote you :) Edited November 12, 2015 by Rohrmeister

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

DISLIKE

(as someone who switches between XP/BP and standard battles very often)

 

Now it will cost me a fortune to get the parameters I need (damage, health) to the value I want.

While you gave me all the parameters I must not have for free without asking.

 

You increasing the weight of my wasp -> now it feels sluggish.

You increased the turning speed of my wasp, so I have different timing around walls in XP/BP and standard battles

You increased the power, but not as much as the weight, so it accelerates worse

 

 

Turret aim timing:

You increased the turning speed of my rail to 15% more then I have in XP/BP, so I have to get used to different aim and swingshots EVERY time I change gamemode

 

Sure this applies only to fast hulls and long-range precision turret. All Vikings and Midrangers will be happy about the effect on their equipment. They might regret their happiness, if they look up the whole price it takes to go all way M4.

 

Greed rules, hmm?

[D_R_I_N_K 29]

it easy to look into TO management . HOW!? Here is why this update launched before christmas and eventually launching of Tanki X. Now almost all the m3 tankers will be equal with m4 tanks, quite well and i am happy for all of them, cause most are kids without possibility to purchase many millions of crystals. But that makes no sense of those who put pile of money to get stronger tanks and in one moment when all  are equal, the buyers will be eventually move into Tanki X looking for new advantages over the other.

Simply , this update is to make the buyers move into Tanki X. 

Dont be mad TO on my comment,  but it is really silly to make this update so late in your 6-7 years history. Why u did't launched 1 or 2 years ago?

 

 

cheers all,
Vasil

[deadmanrising 715]

^++ again I would upvote you :)

Why not unlike and relike :D

[deadmanrising 715]

I do not care for this bundling of micro-upgrade. I only upgrade the parameters that best fit my play style.  This is a lot like the cable TV. I have to pay for 500 channels, just to get the few channels I wanted. : (

That's capitalism for you

[Thomas11239 366]

Good one, upgraded Thunder's damage half :)

[magnaboy2 656]

Thanks Tanki for giving me free M4 Dictator and M4 Railgun :)

I only had 1 of each parameter fully upgraded but now yes :D

[Black-hawk-777 10]

Before update:

 

 

AFTER UPDATE:

 

 

The total damage of Twins m3 has decrease. I wont pay for tanki anymore.

[robbiealdo 373]

My M3 Thunder is 45/50 , almost M4 :wub:

[Lankbouv 6,347]

Hmm, not sure how I feel about this. Yes, I had some items where I had some parameters M4, and I was waiting for a sale to fully M4, now its nice that they are done with paying a penny, but with some of my stuff, I deliberately upgraded some parameters and left some alone, and now they are all fully upgraded, and I didn't particularly want that. I think the loss of customising MUs is not something I agree with. If you didn't want to fully upgrade all parameters before, this update will make it cost more to upgrade the parameters you want as you're forced to upgrade all of them, and again this is a backwards step.

You say it's a backwards step, for players yes, but this is how they make more money.  one way or another things will become More Expensive.  Yes some players benefited which prevents a huge outcry, but overall players suffered.