Episode 108 of the V-LOG is here

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Weight = stability = makes you beeing less effected by enemys impact force.

Weight keeps you alive if you are under enemy fire, as you are able to fire back, and hit something, instead of keep missing.

 

Hunters (today, pre-balance) get spinned in circles by Vulcan, Rico, Twins, Smoky..... - if the weight change now means, that this happens to Viking (after balance), then a lot of Viking pilots will be very, very disapointed.

 

 

The speed advantage is neglectable.. the 0.5 points on speed mean 5 meters advantage on a 10sec race.

5 meter = length of a wasp. 10sec = forever and a day.

 

I once did a race (hunter M3 vs Viking M3) on midrange distance (red alert, red base ramps through canyon towards the large bridge). Viking and Hunter performed equally, there was no relevant difference in speed. 0.5 points are pure cosmetic on 80% of the freuently played maps.

Edited October 1, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[galziv01 69]

Weight = stability = makes you beeing less effected by enemys impact force.

Weight keeps you alive if you are under enemy fire, as you are able to fire back, and hit something, instead of keep missing.

 

Hunters get spinned in circles by Vulcan, Rico, Twins, Smoky..... - if the weight change now means, that this happens to Viking, then a lot of Viking pilots will be very, very disapointed.

 

 

The speed advantage is neglectable.. the 0.5 points on speed mean 5meters advantage on a 10sec race.

5meter = length of a wasp. 10sec = forever and a day.

 

I once did a race (hunter M3 vs Viking M3) on midrange distance (red alert, red base ramps through canyon towards the large bridge). Viking and Hunter performed equally, there was no relevant difference in speed. 0.5 points are pure cosmetic on 80% of the freuently played maps.

so pick dictator which is heavier than hunter

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

the hitbox of dictaor is awesome large; there are a lot of places on the battlefield where you can not hide with a dictator.
Either die to its large hitbox of the base or simply because of its large height.

 

I have not yet checked the accelerations and turning speeds of a dictator.
In the past it was a nice defender, as size didnt matter so much; while the hp where nice and the turning speed and agility (acceleration) made it easy to move around a little inside the base, without feeling like a sitting duck (mammut).

 

How many dictators do you see in midfield and attack?

 

Viking was a very versatile hull; and now - for a reason that must have to do with crsstal spendings :P - they exchanged hunter and viking.

 

besides that:
I already have an M3 viking, and I see no reason why now it's specs are literaly exchanged with a hunter.
There is no point to it.. except to force me to buy another hull.

 

 

Isida players will find it very hard to complete these missions:
Destroy enemies
Earn experience in DM battles

 

Why is that?

 

Isida players will no longer play DM battles. Is that what you want, Tanki?
Isida was pretty weak in DM battles before this upgrade, but after the upgrade everyone will try to kill isidas, because they do not do much damage,

 

Please take these things into consideration before the upgrade.

I completely agree.

 

Isisdas have beent pretty balanced - if they did not where on supplies.
the selfhealing on DP was the main problem they had, not overall overpowerness.

 

It would be much better, if Tanki cancels the effect of DP on selfhealing, and leaves the rest of the isida stats as they were.

[pringerfinger 934]

@ Cedric What about the Kits? Will there be M3 kits available for brigadiers or anyone under field marshal?

[Unique_Legacy 19]

We Want Proper Rebalance!!!!!

Give us Refund!!!
 

[Mr-P.E.K.K.A 10]

Price of the paints has been changed. 
Price of Turrets and Hulls will be changed.
What left? The modules? Well, they are new and already adjusted for the new balance.
Supplies mechanism has been changed. 

Everything directs towards a Re balance. Why only balance change?

Make it fair for all and give everyone the opportunity to buy everything again. 

​Please do a garage reset. A lot of tankers will come back.

Cedric please convey my the idea of proper rebalance to the devs. 
 

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Should I get Mammy m4 & Hunter M4 because of the new rebalancing or stick to M4 Titan & Viking?

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

We Want Proper Rebalance!!!!!

Give us Refund!!!

You know, thats actually _seems_ to be a part of their business model:

Once all 9..18 months the stats of some equipment are changed in a way, that players don't recognise the equipment characterisitcs that they loved. So they are either forced to spend some money to buy another thing fast; or play a lot with drugs to earn those missing crystals (which is harder now) or they simply leave the game and make free space for newcomers (high ranked players that do not like to spend money are like a dead burden..).

 

It also fits perfectly, that 12..18 months is a usual time to reach th highest rank.. so it is "once every generation" if you like to say so.

 

 

Dont get me wrong.. balancing is important.

I am pro-balance, but I would love to see it in a way that it

- keeps the special characteristics of the turrets and hulls

- while it just makes them less or more powerfull slightly

 

Then (and only then) every player could play the turret and hull he loves; while the balance of power could be handled as well.

Edited October 1, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Should I get Mammy m4 & Hunter M4 because of the new rebalancing or stick to M4 Titan & Viking?

I would recommend to buy nothing now.

 

The rebalance was now announced.. it is likely that some things will change after it is "in game" for a month or two.

Also the new alternations could be in game by then... se we talk about end of November, mid dezember.

 

Save and stockpile your crystals for the christmas sale.. by then play with what you have by now. As you are generalissimo already, you cant purchase kits anyways... so use the time and see waht it brings

[eefschietscheef 246]

Please do not give hulls of the same type the same health. It will kill your game. 

[theFiringHand 21,351]

Your comments are be coming increasingly obnoxious and insulting to players. A specially when they say anything negative about the game. The one above is just one of many i have noticed that has an insulting tone to it. Not to mention you use in correct punctuation and grammar. And post deceptive and misleading comments that are totally biased for the wish of the tanki devs. <_>

This wasn't about criticizing the devs. I'm angry because the person in question attacked the volunteer who every week spends personal time and energy to create Arabic subtitles for the Arabic community. That is totally unacceptable. As for my punctuation and grammar, you might want to look again.

[theFiringHand 21,351]

about your first answer,please,troll kids with this..my question was clear enough,but let me repeat once again

 

recently you,as CM answered to all discount beggers when they were asking about 50% discounts (last few months) that they are "impossible to give,because that would hit game economy too much"

 

what happened now?..recently we were bombered with 50% discounts..now they don't affect economy of the game???

 

about second "opinion" of yours

 

reduced cooldown time means they can be used more often,am I not right?

 

which leads to my statement again,you pulled 1500 kit into the shop exclusively..isn't that move (update you are announcing) forcing even more drugg usage?

 

please repply :)

About discounts — right now we're in a position to offer 50% discounts. Back then, we were coming from a lengthy period of constant series of discounts of 50% and over. That is what damaged the economy, because it skewed players' perception of what actual equipment prices were.

 

As for supplies and cooldowns, nobody forces you to use them. What we're doing is moving towards a more dynamic gameplay.

[Magenta 5,165]

Think before you speak. The people who put PERSONAL time and effort into making the subtitles so that YOU can watch the V-LOG in your native language are volunteers. And YOU have the GUTS to say "shame on you"??? YOU should be ashamed of yourself. The person who does the Arabic subtitles was indisposed today, and it's none of your business why he didn't manage to finish those subtitles. Now be an adult and apologize, and be appreciative of the fact that these volunteers are doing so much just to keep YOU comfortable.

 

 

This wasn't about criticizing the devs. I'm angry because the person in question attacked the volunteer who every week spends personal time and energy to create Arabic subtitles for the Arabic community. That is totally unacceptable. As for my punctuation and grammar, you might want to look again.

by grammar and spelling i guess he meant the missing "d"

ur anger is totally justified....

 

Your comments are be coming increasingly obnoxious and insulting to players. A specially when they say anything negative about the game. The one above is just one of many i have noticed that has an insulting tone to it. Not to mention you use in correct punctuation and grammar. And post deceptive and misleading comments that are totally biased for the wish of the tanki devs.  <_<  

 

have u looked at ur own grammar and spelling? especially became a specially???

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tbh, the justification provided for removing the 15k supplies kit from garage is absurd. cuz it has now been made cheaper in the shop (previously, it costed about 100k in the garage. buying 100k crystals with $$ costed approx. $40. now it costs $20. -_- einstein said no limit to human stupidity. i say no limit to tanki dev hypocrisy.  :ph34r:so i am einstein 2

Edited October 1, 2016 by Magenta

[theFiringHand 21,351]

You had to remove the 1500 supplies pack from the garage because:

"the discount on the supply pack was simply too high"

 

So this is what you had to go through with;

 

• Previously, if someone wanted to buy a 1500 supplies kit in the garage,

  it would have cost them 105,000 crystals.

   

• Now, they have to buy 15 x 100 supplies kits,

  costing them now 262,500 - which is a whopping 150% increase on the original price!

   

• But, if you buy them with cash, i.e. €13.99, you're basically getting them for the crystal equivalent of 45,000 crystals.

  This is about a 60% decrease on the original price which you say was already too heavily discounted!

 

When you say, "as a result it affected the game economy negatively", what you really mean to say is you need to make more money from supplies. By making them really expensive in the garage and really cheap to buy for cash, you've made supplies more attractive to buyers and less attractive for free2play players.

Although the equivalent in crystals is much lower, only a minority of players will be willing to spend real money on those supplies, which is why we're trying this approach to reduce extensive drugging.

[theFiringHand 21,351]

I don't get it. I am below the rank Marshal, but I already have the following M3s: Viking, Isida, Thunder, Shaft, and Hornet. I have a significant amount of MU on my Viking, Thunder, and Isida. Will these be removed from my garage? Or will I be able to keep them?

No they will not be removed from your garage.

[theFiringHand 21,351]

Well, there is no question but my particular combination will no longer play like it used to. Will I enjoy it ore, or less? Impossible to tell, but I don't think I would bet money on "like it more".

 

Viking is losing a lot of its characteristices. Acceleration is what you need when fighting out of cover. Weight is coming down a lot. Speed is up. It's turning into a heavy Hornet.

 

At the same time Smokey is being changed dramatically. It is being made more damaging at short range and that is a boost. But top range is cut dramatically as is critical hit damage. In fact a critical hit as short rage does not much more damage than a regular hit. Since most fighting will be  done at shorter ranges this means critical hits are much less important to real DPS.

 

Gosh, and at the same time Smokey users are offered an alteration to increase impact force in exchange for those crits. So that is a bit more useful a tradeoff for 50,000 Cr.  But all the hull weights are being changed dramatically. No one will know if this impact effect will be significant in game play. And any rentals before the change will not be valid for after the change.

 

Add hull and turret together and it is unlikely I will find myself equipped to thrive in the roles I have today.

 

So bottom line I have two general courses of action. I can pususe Viking/Smokey and hope after the change I like the combo even better. All these changes must be seen in context with one another.

 

Or do I just not buy anything until after the update. Just play Tanki for the daily missions and log out. Save every Cry for the post-change sale? Then I can react to the new conditions and buy the hull/turret combo I will like post-change. This option means I play Tanki less and grow distant from it.

 

Answering that question will depend on the time frame. So we do not need a specific date, but we players need to know a ballpark goal. One month? End of the year? We players need some guideline. thank you.

We're talking mid-October.

[theFiringHand 21,351]

But... why did you reduce supplies cooldowns??!!! That's is a step in the complete wrong direction! You are actually increasing supplies effectiveness, when (as I see) the game cries for reducing it.

We'll need to wait and see to find out. But I promise you that the devs will be monitoring the situation closely. If they see that the overall impact is negative, they'll do something about it. Remember, devs see a much bigger picture than players will ever be able to see. Our analysts have access to data and statistics that even I have no access to, and would be unable to interpret properly.

[Magenta 5,165]

We're talking mid-October.

u.r.kidding.......

mid october????so the sales after the balancing...will be merged with halloween? say no say no say no....

[dan146_tanker 770]

Ok people I'm just gonna say it loud and clear. This new update. Who will it benefit, the players or the devs? Yeah sure the devs make and develop the game, but the players keep the game alive. No players No game No money. That's a fact. So how about stop bickering about players ''attacking'' the staff. Ok yeah I agree, its not really acceptable. But why would players say that your comments are annoying? Listen people the answer is right in front of your faces. Its so obvious its almost scary! Since you guys probably won't ever find the answer on your own I'll just tell you. STOP MAKING UPDATES! Just stop! So many updates, and its obviously benefiting the devs NOT us. And yeah say what you want, but adding new things to the shop constantly just shows desperation. Its a ''free'' game. No where in the rules when signing the agreement did it say we would face weekly updates that give the devs more money and give the players a rip off. Sorry dear Tanki staff, but nope this ain't gonna work. Face it we make the game. Without us who plays the game? I'm not trying to be out of order, but seriously all these updates have to STOP. No way you guys are gonna keep all your players by doing these updates. If your gonna do updates do ONE. But not just any update, a good update cause yeah we players need a good update. Making supplies easier to acquire for buyers isn't a good update. Reducing the power of supplies, taking them out of the game.. well I now realise that's a bad update too. If only there was a way ''druggers'' and ''non-druggers'' could have battles the way they like it. Supplies no supplies. What's the answer to this question that people have been arguing for years? The answer is going to take 0 stubbornness, the update won't increase any money for you in short term. But in long term more people would recommend this game. More people = more buyers = more money for you guys. Overall answer = Make the PRO pass cheaper. That's all you need to make this game better. Its that simple. As for hulls and turrets... You guys already brought in alterations. Improve the alterations for turrets a bit and then your good. Add alterations for hulls instead of just altering what you guys think would benefit the game is also good. Marshal is not a good rank to buy M3s. Right now it should stay the same. And just to be clear DON'T lower the power of each turret. Trust me it will ruin the game.

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Ok people I'm just gonna say it loud and clear. This new update. Who will it benefit, the players or the devs? Yeah sure the devs make and develop the game, but the players keep the game alive. No players No game No money. That's a fact. So how about stop bickering about players ''attacking'' the staff. Ok yeah I agree, its not really acceptable. But why would players say that your comments are annoying? Listen people the answer is right in front of your faces. Its so obvious its almost scary! Since you guys probably won't ever find the answer on your own I'll just tell you. STOP MAKING UPDATES! Just stop! So many updates, and its obviously benefiting the devs NOT us. And yeah say what you want, but adding new things to the shop constantly just shows desperation. Its a ''free'' game. No where in the rules when signing the agreement did it say we would face weekly updates that give the devs more money and give the players a rip off. Sorry dear Tanki staff, but nope this ain't gonna work. Face it we make the game. Without us who plays the game? I'm not trying to be out of order, but seriously all these updates have to STOP. No way you guys are gonna keep all your players by doing these updates. If your gonna do updates do ONE. But not just any update, a good update cause yeah we players need a good update. Making supplies easier to acquire for buyers isn't a good update. Reducing the power of supplies, taking them out of the game.. well I now realise that's a bad update too. If only there was a way ''druggers'' and ''non-druggers'' could have battles the way they like it. Supplies no supplies. What's the answer to this question that people have been arguing for years? The answer is going to take 0 stubbornness, the update won't increase any money for you in short term. But in long term more people would recommend this game. More people = more buyers = more money for you guys. Overall answer = Make the PRO pass cheaper. That's all you need to make this game better. Its that simple. As for hulls and turrets... You guys already brought in alterations. Improve the alterations for turrets a bit and then your good. Add alterations for hulls instead of just altering what you guys think would benefit the game is also good. Marshal is not a good rank to buy M3s. Right now it should stay the same. And just to be clear DON'T lower the power of each turret. Trust me it will ruin the game.

Excellent points. I'm finding lesser and lesser consistency in Tanki Online...

 

Maybe that's why they updated the EULA again?

[beaku 2,656]

Excellent points. I'm finding lesser and lesser consistency in Tanki Online...

 

Maybe that's why they updated the EULA again?

The EULA was updated to keep it in accordance with some consumer rights acts.

[omrot 2,327]

Is there a way to change my answer in the Survey?

 

After reading the Wiki Article I want to change my answer from: They will make the game worse

to: They will make the game a lot worse

[HichigoShiiro 4,378]

REFUND REFUND REFUND REFUND REFUND 

[VaudeVille 1,428]

 

 

 

I don't mind spending my money because I go work so am alright with this and it's actually making the game better. If your not going to buy anything from Tanki don't say anything and don't criticize what they are doing because it is non of your concern as you won't be affected as much since you don't buy. If it is anyone to criticize Tanki then it should be the buyers not you. Tanki is a good game and like almost every game in the world there are purchases that can be made in the game store so why don't you go criticize them aswell instead of criticizing tanki. Other tankers theories about Tanki taking all your money is wrong because if you spend your money then that's you using your money and your responsibility so don't get angry because of updates they make as it mast benefit you but will benefit a majority of other tankers ;) :) :D

 

 

Some of us buyers r also not happy.

[TheContractKiller_GT 374]

new upcoming update sucks