If you get a TO staff job, would you put it on your resume to college?

[Bydo 20,119]

both of you young sir's please cool it .. there is no need to get into each others space.. who cares who spends lots of time here or not.. its only a freaking game .. just move on and enjoy each others company on the forum..

 

life is way to short to be fighting with a strangers on a computer .. like really is this all you guys got to do with your life's.. give it a break ..

 

move on and go battle or do something worthy ...

[Adel 567]

Please if you want to go further with this argument take it to PM.

[Mr.71 123]

Might get a quick mention if it has any relevance, but it would only be a glancing mention. Now i emloy people and would look far more on someone who maybe can show skills or work out side of a game, maybe take some of your spare time to help out more in the community. If computer skills is your thing maybe sign up to help out at a silver surfers.

 

Also only keep on your cv what is of need you can over do it to the point the cv will be put in the bin before its been fully looked at.

[Toby 2,938]

It's a game, right. :) Although being a moderator is not a real 'job', you can still learn some skills from it - such as management for example. But honestly, real life always comes first. :)

[joostcool 5,942]

Might get a quick mention if it has any relevance, but it would only be a glancing mention. Now i emloy people and would look far more on someone who maybe can show skills or work out side of a game, maybe take some of your spare time to help out more in the community. If computer skills is your thing maybe sign up to help out at a silver surfers.

 

Also only keep on your cv what is of need you can over do it to the point the cv will be put in the bin before its been fully looked at.

I do not intend to criticize you on your job, but to be honest, I think it's a bit short-minded to think that "outside > gaming". In fact, I do not even call myself a gamer. I am moderating way more than I play, like 49/50 of my time goes into moderating in a game. Why is it that doing something online and at a "game" is deemed less skilled than doing something outside of the "gaming sphere"?

[Mr.71 123]

if i am looking at a cv and the 2 main differences are 1 has experience at helping in a game and the other has volunteered out in the real world I know what one i would pick for the job.

[joostcool 5,942]

if i am looking at a cv and the 2 main differences are 1 has experience at helping in a game and the other has volunteered out in the real world I know what one i would pick for the job.

So I am an organizer at eSports and I create tournaments. In the real world I am the manager of the referees at the sportclub I am a member of. It is indeed a volunteer job. It includes planning, taking care of your referee's etc. But guess what, there are minor differences, because also the planning happens on PC, I maintain contact with my referee's like 95% of the time through email or whatsapp. The differences are minor, why does it put someone in a worse spot? I think it's really out-dated to think that the best employees are to be found at non-gaming places. Those times have past. I can assure you that you lose potentially very good employees by ruling out the online area nowadays. 

[MusicJam19 737]

I will do in my university application. I won't write too much on it, but as I am taking a Computer Science course it would be ideal to note that I have done and experimented with different roles online. It is all skills that will add up and might be taken into consideration.

[Mr.71 123]

So I am an organizer at eSports and I create tournaments. In the real world I am the manager of the referees at the sportclub I am a member of. It is indeed a volunteer job. It includes planning, taking care of your referee's etc. But guess what, there are minor differences, because also the planning happens on PC, I maintain contact with my referee's like 95% of the time through email or whatsapp. The differences are minor, why does it put someone in a worse spot? I think it's really out-dated to think that the best employees are to be found at non-gaming places. Those times have past. I can assure you that you lose potentially very good employees by ruling out the online area nowadays. 

I take what your saying on board, but having done contracts for MOD, Airbus, Dyson, NHS, and many other big companys i have found that real world experience tend to mean more then have done a roll online for a game. If like you have both like you then all the better but if a pick of one or the other then i think its a no brainer.

 

But then I also guess it depends what the job or course is.

[MusicJam19 737]

I take what your saying on board, but having done contracts for MOD, Airbus, Dyson, NHS, and many other big companys i have found that real world experience tend to mean more then have done a roll online for a game. If like you have both like you then all the better but if a pick of one or the other then i think its a no brainer.

 

But then I also guess it depends what the job or course is.

Perhaps not, but for someone who is applying to a uni/college or first job, where will he have that real life experience? Edited October 13, 2016 by MusicJam19

[Fresh 2,390]

Just don't rage at your students like you've done with me.

I did go to my old primary school for work experience and I was close to shouting at one of the students xD .

[angelreaper 65]

If the people reading your CV are good at their job, they will see the through the "it's a video game for kids" tag associated with it. For those who don't know or understand, there is a lot more going on with being a mod than sitting down pressing a big red button, using special software to ban players (mine is yellow anyway).

Communication is the No 1 thing, not only with players but other moderators and admin discussing behaviour/language and context of players posts. Staying calm and having truck loads of patience. Listening and explaining problems or situations.  Working on your own and in groups, teamwork etc.

These are skills that others want their staff to have, and unlike 'real jobs' where those around you are of the same mind set, age and skills on TO those you deal with have many different languages, cultures, religions and ages. All this plays a part. So from a communication point of view working on TO is actually advantageous.

I am old (:() as most know and I have literally worked for thousands of people in my life. From small companies to huge ones. From ones nobody knows to ones that most would know (Jaguar/Ducati). Taught in colleges (one was a pre college before University) would I put "I work on a online game site".

Yes and have.

If you are doing a CV, the things to remember is it needs to STAND OUT from everybody's else's Be EYE catching.  It needs to be presented well and balanced.

There is a huge difference from these

"I play internet games for 3 hours a day"

"I communicate with hundreds of people from around the world, helping and giving advice"

Soooo long post but then again I never use 1 word when 500 will do. My view point.

[HichigoShiiro 4,378]

It might seem stupid but in these days, it could work. 

[NewbieCake 3,067]

Interesting arguments. I for one, would've probably not put it on, but after reading 's, @joostcool's, and @angelreaper's posts I think there's a possibility I would do it in the future.

[Bydo 20,119]

ok Im the old one here

 

for Brem he does have some what of a point .. when it do's come to the CV do not make it so long and boring ..due to most company's or employers will skip threw people who have say 15 pages of info on it .. it needs to be more direct and to the point .. some of it can be skipped out .. the little things .. if its your very first then  more the better ...so it really depends on who is reading it and what the position your going for...

Edited October 13, 2016 by frozen_heart

[Mr.71 123]

Perhaps not, but for someone who is applying to a uni/college or first job, where will he have that real life experience?

Well i volunteered at a old floks home from the age of 13 did this for about 5 years, taught IT to old folk for 3 years from the age of 15 to 18. My results from school where not good enough to get me into uni but I got in because of my work I did volunteering.  So getting into uni doing free work got me my place, first job the free work help me get as it set me apart from the other graduates.

 

So you first job dont have to be paid work for free it will help you out alot.

 

Why do you think many graduates go work for a few years for free to get some experience.

Edited October 13, 2016 by Mr.71

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[joostcool 5,942]

There is a huge difference from these

"I play internet games for 3 hours a day"

"I communicate with hundreds of people from around the world, helping and giving advice"

Totally agree here, it's a lot about how you describe it. Playing a game doesn't help you, but explaining what skills you gained from your roles in tanki will help. In fact, I did not even put in my CV that it's a game, that makes people tag you. We got to talk about it in the job interview though, but there I could "defend" myself.

[MusicJam19 737]

Well i volunteered at a old floks home from the age of 13 did this for about 5 years, taught IT to old folk for 3 years from the age of 15 to 18. My results from school where not good enough to get me into uni but I got in because of my work I did volunteering. So getting into uni doing free work got me my place, first job the free work help me get as it set me apart from the other graduates.

 

So you first job dont have to be paid work for free it will help you out alot.

 

Why do you think many graduates go work for a few years for free to get some experience.

The more things you do the more impressive it is. Sure, volunteering there is nice, but colleges also like it if you do some work/voluntary service related to your course

 

Also I do not know anyone who graduated and did voluntary work.

Maybe you are referring to apprentices or interns? Apprentices get paid and interns usually do their unpaid work before graduating

[Mr.71 123]

The more things you do the more impressive it is. Sure, volunteering there is nice, but colleges also like it if you do some work/voluntary service related to your course

 

Also I do not know anyone who graduated and did voluntary work.

Maybe you are referring to apprentices or interns? Apprentices get paid and interns usually do their unpaid work before graduating

Interns you from the US? i am on about in the UK and it nothing unusual for someon who has just finished a uni course to go get unpaid work to gain the experience thats needed for that job.

[Hate 5,582]

 I also got plenty of criticism, which is something you get to be able to deal with.

 

 

Don't worry about the criticism, you are joostcool the way you are, if you know what I mean  :)

Edited October 14, 2016 by Hate

[L.I.I3.3.I2.T.Y 820]

Also depends on for what college you apply. There's a different between Harvard and any main stream college.

Edited October 14, 2016 by L.I.I3.3.I2.T.Y

[MusicJam19 737]

Interns you from the US? i am on about in the UK and it nothing unusual for someon who has just finished a uni course to go get unpaid work to gain the experience thats needed for that job.

I'm from the uk too. If you have graduated from a uni you should have enough qualifications to apply for a full-time job, I have never seen anyone who then went on to do unpaid work

[Mr.71 123]

I'm from the uk too. If you have graduated from a uni you should have enough qualifications to apply for a full-time job, I have never seen anyone who then went on to do unpaid work

Many industries are so competitive that you need experience in that trade, i can show you 50+ people who are now doing work for free to get the experience so they can get paid work in the industries they have picked.

 

Now days a bachelor degree is not worth much, so many now going on to masters and PHD.

Edited October 14, 2016 by Mr.71