Let's Discuss Magnum!

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

6 minutes ago, fire_shoter said:

Damage range was from 1900-2330 , not 1160. I was dealing most of the times enough damage to one shot light tanks .

When were you dealing 1900-2330 damage? And how long now has Magnum's damage been "nerfed"?

[fire_shoter 555]

Just now, TheCongoSpider said:

When were you dealing 1900-2330 damage? And how long now has Magnum's damage been "nerfed"?

It has been nerfed for more than 3 months.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

25 minutes ago, fire_shoter said:

It has been nerfed for more than 3 months.

Yeah I really don't know what you're talking about. Magnum's damage was 1160-2330. Mk5 was 895-1809.

[fire_shoter 555]

4 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Yeah I really don't know what you're talking about. Magnum's damage was 1160-2330. Mk5 was 895-1809.

lol what are you talking, damage was 1900 - 2330, you forgot quickly because u don't care anymore about magnum. If it was one shooting you in MM u would have know.

Edited July 21, 2021 by fire_shoter

[Abellia 504]

43 minutes ago, fire_shoter said:

lol what are you talking, damage was 1900 - 2330, you forgot quickly because u don't care anymore about magnum. If it was one shooting you in MM u would have know.

I'll just leave this here: Magnum - Tanki Online Wiki (archive.org)
Edit: also this lol Micro-upgrades Magnum - Tanki Online Wiki (tankiwiki.com) which still shows the old dmg range because the wiki hasn't updated yet
Edit 2: a collection of mk8 magnums, once you check their base damage, not in fact doing 1900 to 2330 damage: https://imgur.com/a/lCTIhyH

Edited July 21, 2021 by Abellia

[Abellia 504]

On 7/5/2021 at 12:09 AM, DestrotankAI9 said:

In other news, has anyone who experienced the Magnum no damage bug before the recent patch also experienced it after the patch? Seems fixed for me - I tried a few battles with Magnum, normally a good 30% of my shots record nothing, but every strike was properly causing damage for the first time since I have used HTML5. Anyone else anything to report on that?

(A question ONLY for those who experienced the Magnum no damage bug before the patch).

Unfortunately, yes. If you're aware of how props interact on client vs on the server, Magnum now deals damage 100% of the time, and is back to being broken instead of held down by a bug.
 

5 hours ago, fire_shoter said:

Damage range was from 1900-2330 , not 1160. I was dealing most of the times enough damage to one shot light tanks .

They should nerf gauss even more. It ability to snipe and arcade shoot is too op. With EMP and AP it is whole another level. Too OP.

Shaft with heavy capacitors, 4 seconds too give full damage . I mean wtf. Nerf that camp bot s*** to the 6 sec or even more. No one wants to be one shotted by camper shaft losers. 

And last one , smoky autocannon mobile users. Critical that ignores protection. I mean seriously? Auto shooting + critical that is too op. 

Easy way to fix that. Nerf critical damage of smoky autocannon for 50%.

I'm not denying that Gauss, Shaft, and Autocannon are problematic, but talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

6 hours ago, fire_shoter said:

They should nerf gauss even more. It ability to snipe and arcade shoot is too op. With EMP and AP it is whole another level. Too OP.

The sniping damage is fine though the locking time should be increased to 3 seconds. Splash damage too, needs a nerf. IDK about its arcade shot soooo... I might not touch that.

6 hours ago, fire_shoter said:

Shaft with heavy capacitors, 4 seconds too give full damage. Nerf that camp bot to the 6 sec or even more. No one wants to be one shotted by camper shaft losers. 

As a Hornet-Shaft main, I do agree Alternativa overbuffed it. Reverting it back to 6 seconds good enough to make it possible for dynamic gameplay. 8 seconds was the definition for camping.

Judging the buff, I think Alternativa want to encourage dynamic gameplay for Shafts though it did not solve the issue.

7 hours ago, fire_shoter said:

Easy way to fix that. Nerf critical damage of smoky autocannon for 50%.

A better way to tackle this would be strip off module-piercing property from critical damage.

[fire_shoter 555]

2 hours ago, Abellia said:

Unfortunately, yes. If you're aware of how props interact on client vs on the server, Magnum now deals damage 100% of the time, and is back to being broken instead of held down by a bug.
 

 

Lol broken? Hahaha, IT IS BROKENLY WEAK, ( it is only broken on mobile, noobs can't play with magnum on pc, coz it requires skill) .Dude I was one shotting titan ( heavy tanks ) without double armor with magnum mk7-10  with double damage and one shotting light tank users with double armour ( players without magnum protection module ), but now with max mk8 magnum it is always 1745. I mean why??? Before i delt 2000+ or 4000+ damage with double damage, but now it is only 1745 or 3490 with double damage ( 3490 damage with double damage if player didn't equip prot and double armour). Too weak. Literally every light weight users repairs themselves so I have to shot them 3 times or even more if they have magnum prot which is maxed 50% prot on every legend player .

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

6 minutes ago, fire_shoter said:

if they have magnum prot which is maxed 50% prot on every legend player .

hmm I wonder why people max out magnum protection

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

16 minutes ago, ThirdOnion said:

hmm I wonder why people max out magnum protection

Because you can deal that 1.7k damage easily in close range. Plus the reload speed buff = armies of Griffins.

[fire_shoter 555]

10 hours ago, FrozenRailgun said:

Because you can deal that 1.7k damage easily in close range. Plus the reload speed buff = armies of Griffins.

But on close range u will self damage yourself a lot, plus you won't kill anyone, including light tanks, they will survive.

Only way to deal with griffin users is to use booster.

Edited July 22, 2021 by fire_shoter

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

29 minutes ago, fire_shoter said:

But on close range u will self damage you a lot, plus you won't kill anyone, including light tanks, they will survive.

so apparently not being able to one-shot everything with impunity is being weak

[Abellia 504]

17 hours ago, fire_shoter said:

Lol broken? Hahaha, IT IS BROKENLY WEAK, ( it is only broken on mobile, noobs can't play with magnum on pc, coz it requires skill) .Dude I was one shotting titan ( heavy tanks ) without double armor with magnum mk7-10  with double damage and one shotting light tank users with double armour ( players without magnum protection module ), but now with max mk8 magnum it is always 1745. I mean why??? Before i delt 2000+ or 4000+ damage with double damage, but now it is only 1745 or 3490 with double damage ( 3490 damage with double damage if player didn't equip prot and double armour). Too weak. Literally every light weight users repairs themselves so I have to shot them 3 times or even more if they have magnum prot which is maxed 50% prot on every legend player .

I provided evidence as for why Magnum never would consistently do 2k+ damage per shot. Evidently, you aren't listening.

20 hours ago, Abellia said:

I'll just leave this here: Magnum - Tanki Online Wiki (archive.org)
Edit: also this lol Micro-upgrades Magnum - Tanki Online Wiki (tankiwiki.com) which still shows the old dmg range because the wiki hasn't updated yet
Edit 2: a collection of mk8 magnums, once you check their base damage, not in fact doing 1900 to 2330 damage: https://imgur.com/a/lCTIhyH

It seems like you magnum players are looking for things to complain about now that the no damage bug is fixed.

 

You really are not convincing me of anything except that your memory is seriously flawed - the Mandela effect/rose tinted glasses are real, I guess. 

Edited July 22, 2021 by Abellia

[fire_shoter 555]

1 hour ago, Abellia said:

 

You really are not convincing me of anything except that your memory is seriously flawed - the Mandela effect/rose tinted glasses are real, I guess. 

You just described your problem. I will tell you one more time, magnum could one shot light hulls and heavy hulls without double armour. 

Edited July 22, 2021 by fire_shoter

[Abellia 504]

15 minutes ago, fire_shoter said:

You just described your problem. I will tell you one more time, magnum could one shot light hulls and heavy hulls without double armour. 

It could, rarely. I will tell you one more time, it did not consistently do that, and given the existence of the bell curve used by damage distribution, it only happened maybe 5-10% of the time.

This really is not making my perception of magnum players any better. 

READ.

21 hours ago, Abellia said:

I'll just leave this here: Magnum - Tanki Online Wiki (archive.org)
Edit: also this lol Micro-upgrades Magnum - Tanki Online Wiki (tankiwiki.com) which still shows the old dmg range because the wiki hasn't updated yet
Edit 2: a collection of mk8 magnums, once you check their base damage, not in fact doing 1900 to 2330 damage: https://imgur.com/a/lCTIhyH

Edit: while I'm at it, things in your argument that make no sense:

You make the claim that "mobile magnum takes no skill" - and yet you play Harpoon.

You accuse @TheCongoSpider of statpadding, when you claim that your turret needs to be able to oneshot light hulls/unprotected heavies - a feat it rarely pulled off prior to the critical update.

You also use booster. Talk about statpadding, huh.

Edited July 22, 2021 by Abellia

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

13 minutes ago, fire_shoter said:

You just described your problem. I will tell you one more time, magnum could one shot light hulls and heavy hulls without double armour. 

Can you give some video proof of this?

[fire_shoter 555]

5 minutes ago, Abellia said:

It could, rarely. I will tell you one more time, it did not consistently do that, and given the existence of the bell curve used by damage distribution, it only happened maybe 5-10% of the time.

This really is not making my perception of magnum players any better. 

READ.

 

okey i got u, but that 5 - 10% atleast gave me some possibility to one shot, u know. Also I use harpoon magnum 3°, so just wanted to tell you that I am not camper like other magnums with automated and mines. I play actively and die on field. 

Edited July 22, 2021 by fire_shoter

[Abellia 504]

2 minutes ago, fire_shoter said:

okey i got u, but that 5 - 10% atleast gave me some possibility to one shot, u know. Also I use harpoon magnum 3°, so just wanted to tell you that I am not camper like other magnums with automated and mines. I play actively and die on field. 

"Harpoon"

18 hours ago, fire_shoter said:

Lol broken? Hahaha, IT IS BROKENLY WEAK, ( it is only broken on mobile, noobs can't play with magnum on pc, coz it requires skill) .Dude I was one shotting titan ( heavy tanks ) without double armor with magnum mk7-10  with double damage and one shotting light tank users with double armour ( players without magnum protection module ), but now with max mk8 magnum it is always 1745. I mean why??? Before i delt 2000+ or 4000+ damage with double damage, but now it is only 1745 or 3490 with double damage ( 3490 damage with double damage if player didn't equip prot and double armour). Too weak. Literally every light weight users repairs themselves so I have to shot them 3 times or even more if they have magnum prot which is maxed 50% prot on every legend player .

"noobs can't play with magnum on pc, coz it requires skill"

What a joke...

[fire_shoter 555]

Just now, Abellia said:

"Harpoon"

"noobs can't play with magnum on pc, coz it requires skill"

What a joke...

It has huge decreas on splash, so yes, it requires skill

+No critical damage at all

[Abellia 504]

1 minute ago, fire_shoter said:

It has huge decreas on splash, so yes, it requires skill

+No critical damage at all

Harpoon still has crits. Also, harpoon makes it braindead to land direct hits

[fire_shoter 555]

5 minutes ago, Abellia said:

Harpoon still has crits. Also, harpoon makes it braindead to land direct hits

Anyway, can't wait to play against you in MM so i can rekt your RTL acc. I am gonna use booster only on you, so enjoy being one shotted.

pfff. You are striker and smoky user, what a joke auto shooting mobile user....

Edited July 22, 2021 by fire_shoter

[Abellia 504]

Just now, fire_shoter said:

Anyway, can't wait to play against you in MM so i can rekt your RTL acc. I am gonna use booster only on you, so enjoy being one shotted.

pfff. striker and smoky user, what a joke auto shooting mobile user....

"Statpadding"
"Booster"
 

[fire_shoter 555]

1 minute ago, Abellia said:

"Statpadding"
Trickster
 

Yea, that is what you are doing with your RTL small acc...It is " stat padding " not " StAtPaDdInG "

[mjmj5558 2,346]

32 minutes ago, fire_shoter said:

okey i got u, but that 5 - 10% atleast gave me some possibility to one shot, u know.

And it also had the chance to not oneshot unprotectrd medium hulls, or 2 shot ones with DA. But that chance was wayy bigger.

 

21 minutes ago, fire_shoter said:

Anyway, can't wait to play against you in MM so i can rekt your RTL acc. I am gonna use booster only on you, so enjoy being one shotted.

Wow you know how to press number 3 on your keyboard? SUCH A PRO!

[Crossbone 516]

Ok, where's the damn popcorn?