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As I said in the Community HQ topic, as much as I liked the old railgun, it was extremely overpowered at M1.

 

And as other people said, if you have a complaint, post it in the Complaint Book topic rather than continuously spamming this and therefore breaking Rule 2.4.11.1 (Reproduce already existing topics or messages, as well as topics that have recently been discussed).

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I can’t read this. After the first three sentences I was confused. Please revise and edit next time before posting? Like instead of wrong, you wrote worng. Instead of don’t, it was dont. Also, please use correct tense, too.

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Since I have some free time today, I was gonna reply, but I can't possibly decipher the meaning of a wall of text that is basically a single sentence separated by commas.

 

I honestly don't understand what you expect to accomplish by making posts like this.

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The game will die soon enough

And this opinion is based on what?

 

Get up to the high ranks and see for yourself the amount of cash loads of people are blowing on this game....the miserable prophets of doom that are on this forum don't half talk some naive nonsense.

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Wow!

 

Guys there is a even larger than this text wall are waiting to be posted its like 117 lines :-) but I make it short and posted this , tanki is dead game everyone know this even the devs ! Game balance are dead , buyers fully of the game every update tanki become even worse :-(

 

Just #Re_old_railgun and #Make_tanki_great_again and #apply_my_idea .

 

( oh I'm sure no one read my comment coz its huge , but please guys read it , its with proffs so everything in it are correct , expect for grammers I'm not good at ENG grammers :-) )

 


Since I have some free time today, I was gonna reply, but I can't possibly decipher the meaning of a wall of text that is basically a single sentence separated by commas.

 

I honestly don't understand what you expect to accomplish by making posts like this.

 

I want the devs to feel shame , if they know what does shame mean , coz they destroyed a game lived with us for freaking 8 years and on that they appear in the freaking v_logs happy I just want to know the hell why they happy on what they happy ? Did they done anything great since 2016/10 dump stupid re_balance ? Just freaking no tanki devs just kept making updates make the players hate the game even more :-( . R.I.P tanki I miss you like how I miss my father :-(.

 

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I will re edit it , wait me 2 hours only :---+).

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Posts merged, kindly avoid multi-posting.

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So tanki will get better because 1 turret get buffed? -_-

Good question , and who said tanki will be better if one turret get buffed ? No after railgun get buffed I will turn into other game balance which is wasp and after finishing wasp I'll turn into dictator .... I will continue by this way For the last unbalanced thing/think in the game , until that day come , my mission will be done , do I do anything by a wrong way ? No I just want to make my 8 years game better .

 

#Re_old_railgun

#Make_tanki_great_again

love it.

Love what ?

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I personally prefer the newer Railgun and I prefer XP/BP matches that use the newer Railgun compared to the older version.

 

I guess it's just personal taste.

 


 

What I don't get is how you quoted "for example look at the v-log of the game re_balance blog number 108 man 911 like and 460 dislike !!" and then you use that to support your argument that Railgun needs to be changed.

 

Erm no, the people who disliked that video were almost definitely not up in arms about the Railgun changes. There was a whole rebalance update that wasn't liked, simply because players don't like change and at that time they didn't want their OP weapons nerfed (such as Isida for instance, which got hit hard due to its self-healing being altered). People were also annoyed by the fact that all M3s were moved to the unlock rank of Marshal, the new 5 minute equipment cooldown and by the decrease in Supply cooldowns.

 

Also, don't misquote information. There was 993 likes on that video, not 911. And the dislike number was 455, not 460.

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What sucks most about Tanki today?

 

I think it's that everything encourages players joining a game to join the winning side - or, if they're on a losing team, to abandon the game.

 

The reason is that a difference in player count is HUGE.  It's bigger than any difference between turrets!  If two teams have 10 players, and one leaves, that's an 11% advantage to the bigger team.  If one team has 5 and the other 4, that's 25%!!

 

So why do players join winning teams, and why do they skip out the second their team falls behind?

 

1) The crystal award to the winning team is MUCH greater than to the losing team.  I just played a game where I was on the losing team.  I had the same score as someone on the winning team - but they got nearly 4 TIMES as many crystals.  That's right - my play was on par with one of their better players, but I got less than their worst player.  How is that fair?  So I've learned.  If my team is losing - get out of the game and go join a winning team.  The problem with that is that then the team I've left is even weaker and it loses even more and more people leave - and that's it.   Of course, it's not MY problem anymore.  It's the problem of the suckers (one of which used to be me) who stick around and try to fight while waiting for reinforcements... that never come.  

 

I see games that are over in the first 2 minutes.  They happen when one team starts out with a numerical advantage.  Suppose 3 players are on one side and 4 on the other.  That's a 33% advantage!  As soon as it becomes clear that no one is going to immediately join the weaker team, someone leaves - and then the stronger team has a 100% advantage.  My game-theory advice to you is this:  If you find yourself in that situation - leave immediately!  

 

Of course, that's no fun for the people leaving.  And it's really no fun for the "winning" team.  Most people don't want to play games that last less than 3 minutes. But Tanki hasn't shown any interest in making Tanki more fun.  I guess they're just trying to drive players away.   Of course, people might not be fixated on crystals (yeah, right), but even if they weren't before, they are now because Tanki made the game worse by adding...

 

2) Crystal Missions.  This is almost as stupid as changing Isida's healing characteristics, the "unified battle list", cramming all available players into the least possible number of games, the recent map alterations (okay, one or maybe two aren't horrible), eliminating "pro" missions.  Did I say "almost"?  Actually, it could be worse than most of those.  Why?  Because the main SKILL that completing crystal missions relies upon is - JOINING WINNING TEAMS.  That's right, people.  You can be the best player in Tanki, but if you wind up on losing teams, even if you outscore everyone else in the game, your crystal reward will SUCK and you will have to play more games to complete it than the very mediocre player on the winning team who had less than half your score.  Of course, if you're a crappy player, you should immediately join the winning team.  That way, you can get a bigger reward for jumping on the bandwagon than playing well.

 

Eventually, this will kill Tanki because it will all become about initial impression.  (Well, not all by itself - but in conjunction with other Tanki dumbness.)

 

Will Tanki fix this problem?

 

Don't hold your breath.

 

In the meantime, try really hard to join ONLY winning teams, and immediately leave any team that looks like it's going to lose.  That way you will maximize your crystals per game and help ruin Tanki... as the developers apparently intended.

 

At this point, until the Tanki devs do something to give me a REASON to join a losing team, I vow never 

 

  1. To join a team that is behind, and has a numerical disadvantage, and,
  2. To leave any game where my team does not have a numerical advantage and is behind by 20% in the first 8 minutes.

How is this working?  In the past 5 minutes, I've left three games.  In each case, the team I left was down by at least two players  after I left.  That means that, in addition to a higher score, the other team ALSO had a 25% advantage in the number of players.  I'm sure the losing teams got slaughtered.  Good job, Tanki!  

 

Update:

Just observed that the team that was down THREE players with 10 minutes to go lost CTF 10-0. Predictable.

 

Update:

Just left 4 more games.  All teams I left:  1) Got no replacement players, and 2) Lost.  Again, predictable.

 

Update:

Yep!  That's the way to rack up the crystals.  Just finished a game where the highest score on the other side was higher than mine - but I got more than three times as many crystals as he did!

 

Until Tanki fixes this, beating up the losing teams is the best way to rack up crystals.  Every team I've left has lost.  Every team that was ahead when I joined has won.  Every team that had a numerical majority and an even game won.  In more than half of the games after I left, other people did too.  In a couple games, people on the losing team left before I did, as soon as that happened, the team fell behind.  Once the deficit was 20%, I left. And the team lost.

 

So remember, if your team is losing - quit.

If your team doesn't have as many players, unless you're ahead with a short time to go, or WAY ahead - quit.

If you see a team that's ahead, but is one player short - join that team.

If you see a team that's ahead but has the same number of players as the other team - join that team.

Forget sportsmanship.  Forget helping the weaker players.  Tanki doesn't want competitive games.  Tanki wants to reward people who can figure out which teams will win - and join them.  So if you want crystals - that's how you get them.  Remember, the GAME is NOT about fighting other tanks.  The GAME is about figuring out which team will win - and getting on that team!

 

 

Yeah because you have just started playing in 2017

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I don't enjoy playing regular battles anymore because I don't have the supplies, nor the money to invest in buying them, to even be remotely competitive. Even with equipment that is over half way micro upgraded without supplies you are slaughtered. The new modules mean that even if you start doing remotely well scarcely using supplies, the strongest players on the enemy team will just use protection from your turret.

 

This means players who've sunk all their earnings into slowly upgrading one turret are made completely obsolete by players, often much lower ranks, who've simply bought their way to victory. Frankly regular battles are just too pay to win, In my opinion.

 

I have a couple of alternative accounts which are very well equipped for their ranks, and unfortunately the situation is very similar at those ranks too. I've bought kits on these accounts in the past, but there is always someone who's outspent you, someone who has better equipment, more supplies and more protection modules. No matter how wisely you invest, how well you play, someone will always be on the enemy team who's spent just that little bit more.

 

What decides victory in regular battles is literally just who's bought the most.

 

TL;DR: play xp/bp

 

(Edit: pro battles without supplies are always an option but the number of maps you can find are limited and often favor certain equipment)

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I personally prefer the newer Railgun and I prefer XP/BP matches that use the newer Railgun compared to the older version.

 

I guess it's just personal taste.

 

 

ok dont let me insult you now please i just get mad so fast especaily from the people who dont read about my idea 

 

 

as you read my idea in the third point ( 3: make an auto altretion for xp/bp that change railgun stats like the currnet stats when some one enter a xp/bp battle , so my idea wont effect the xp/bp in any way ) are you ....  :angry:  :angry:  next time when you try to act the smart guy , contuine the whole idea coz i prepear for ever single detail about railgun every single ! think everthing !!!! i took a lot of time and now a kid noob come and refuse and reject ( deny ) my perfect golden idea ? you must be kidding me :(

 

 

railgun ! must get applied to my idea .

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I think tanki is balanced except some turrets, and no not railgun. In my opinion magnum is way to op and you see barely any vulcan in matches so i guess vulcan is up. But the moet disappointed thing about tanki for me is the maps. Not the maps in special, but the less amount of maps that are played. Yes it got improved by the new system, but still I would love to see more maps especially in pro battles. Nowadays you only see, for cp mode, polygon and arena. These are the maps that you spawn and directly can kill/get killed. For one or two years ago you also saw a lot of noises or sometimes even a good dusseldorf map, but now noise is doomed because of the magnum and dusseldorf you see rarely. If you try to make a special map the battle will only be half full or not even close to that. So I hope people will turn their tanks away from polygon and move to other maps.

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ok dont let me insult you now please i just get mad so fast especaily from the people who dont read about my idea 

 

 

as you read my idea in the third point ( 3: make an auto altretion for xp/bp that change railgun stats like the currnet stats when some one enter a xp/bp battle , so my idea wont effect the xp/bp in any way ) are you ....  :angry:  :angry:  next time when you try to act the smart guy , contuine the whole idea coz i prepear for ever single detail about railgun every single ! think everthing !!!! i took a lot of time and now a kid noob come and refuse and reject ( deny ) my perfect golden idea ? you must be kidding me :(

 

 

railgun ! must get applied to my idea .

You're right, I probably didn't read your idea right. The reason was because it was nearly completely illegible.

 

Maybe if you were able to organize your argument/idea properly it would help everyone : )

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I can’t read this. After the first three sentences I was confused. Please revise and edit next time before posting? Like instead of wrong, you wrote worng. Instead of don’t, it was dont. Also, please use correct tense, too.

 

Please read it again , I have spilt it and edited some words and added colors for the important words ,

 


Although some of the updates are pretty negative, positives do come out of them too. eg. space mode, renting alterations, new micro upgrade system, communicator panel, the clan system. :)

 

 

 

Clan system for $$$ only .

 

In space mode you can't know the hacker from the non-hacker and coz this a hacker look like not a hacker steel your gold .

 

Alterations , this is the worst update happens to railgun ever , old railgun cost 96k with a massive DMG , but now old rail cost 200k (196k) to buy it , asking how 200k , I tell you how you need to buy the alteration which cost 100k to re the DMG that the devs spilt it from railgun in 2016/10 , this mean tanki spilted rail DMG and make it for 100k freaking k + the other half of rail DMG which cost 96k ( rail ) ,

 

New micro upgrade system compeletly destroyed the game economy , coz in every battle I enter I see ppl with 10/10 R.I.P tanki ,

 


You're right, I probably didn't read your idea right. The reason was because it was nearly completely illegible.

Maybe if you were able to organize your argument/idea properly it would help everyone : )

 

 

 

1: re the old rail
2: replace the alt with this https://prnt.sc/hf7oj0

 

3: auto alteration for xp/bp battles , that change rail stats like the current rail ,

 

Can it be more simply ? No but its look your brain respond are slow and need to be refreshed.

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1: re the old rail

2: replace the alt with this https://prnt.sc/hf7oj0

 

3: auto alteration for xp/bp battles , that change rail stats like the current rail ,

Why did you not just write something like this rather than that headache before?

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Why did you not just write something like this rather than that headache before?

 

That ? Do you mean the text wall ? Ifnyou talk about it , it doesn't talk about rail , its about how the devs destroyed tanki and other stuff , I have re_edit it and spilt it into paragraphs

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