What to buy? Which is better?

[123tim456back 195]

I will get incendiary rounds on my alt when I rank.  I am also considering the fireworks kit on my alt. It has 50k and is one rank away.  Hammer m2 will be fun, and hornet will go well with smoky magnum and hammer.  However, is this a good idea? Is hammer hornet as my main combo(since I won’t be able to mu smoky hunter and magnum to m3 anytime soon) good? I will probably get it to m3 if I do buy it.  

 

Thanks.

[lssimo 1,559]

On 12/6/2019 at 1:44 AM, 123tim456back said:

Any more opinions? I have 100k now.  Will save for Grizzly M2 and max that along with Falcon M2.

 

Edit: I won’t be buying Cyclops anymore, I will go straight for shaft m2 on a 50% sale.  I don’t have the crystals for Cyclops right now anyways, 170k for shaft m2 and Eagle M2 isn’t as good as 51.8k for shaft m2. Will get dictator, hornet, and falcon to m3 in the meantime.

https://en.tankiwiki.com/Shaft

Shaft M2 is 2 ranks away. So, if you want to buy it during New Year you need to rank faster. Maybe you can take advantage of WAR.

[123tim456back 195]

2 hours ago, lssimo said:

https://en.tankiwiki.com/Shaft

Shaft M2 is 2 ranks away. So, if you want to buy it during New Year you need to rank faster. Maybe you can take advantage of WAR.

I’ll probably wait for the next sales after new year.  Anyone know if fireworks is good for my alt?

[StopChasingMe 50]

Rapid-fire mode for Shaft.  Is it worth buying?

 

Also wondering about thoughts on Heavy and light capacitors.  Which one is best and are they worth it?

 

Thanks

[123tim456back 195]

59 minutes ago, StopChasingMe said:

Rapid-fire mode for Shaft.  Is it worth buying?

 

Also wondering about thoughts on Heavy and light capacitors.  Which one is best and are they worth it?

 

Thanks

I’ve only tried light capacitators so my perspective is limited.  

 

It is is pretty great, but imo only with hornet shaft.  The OD DD allow you to one shot everyone with a quick scope.  Compared to stock shaft, it is much more efficient.  Fast zooming also allows you to deal damage quickly and expose yourself.  Definitely worth getting, especially if you use hornet with it.  I don’t know how it compares to other alterations though.

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

54 minutes ago, StopChasingMe said:

Rapid-fire mode for Shaft.  Is it worth buying?

 

Also wondering about thoughts on Heavy and light capacitors.  Which one is best and are they worth it?

 

Thanks

RFM is for those who have to try-hard with as little skill as possible. This is why you'll see YouTubers using this constantly instead of the higher-skill cap alts such as LCs.

 

HCs are very good if you're facing protections or the Jug. Provided that you invest millions into Shaft and the Booster, you'll get something that can one-shot the Jug, guaranteed. It's great for giving people who are being protected by Dictators a bad time. 

 

LCs require hours upon hours of playtime to master, but once you do, normal Shaft will never be fast enough for you anymore. It does require either Hornet or Booster or even both to get the most of it, but it can instakill pretty much anyone if you have both. Domes, protections, DAs, anything will become irrelevant if you can master this alt. Even a 25% reduction in damage doesn't mean that kills are impossible to get, just a bit harder. Make sure that medium hulls have been damaged a bit, and then snipe them.

This particular alt is also very, very good in DMs and can even allow you to beat all the people who abuse OP things such as Duplet and Rapid-fire mode. This is why I recommend this alteration for anyone who is willing to put in the time and effort to make themselves better Shaft players.

[GoldBox_WillNot_Fall 1]

So if I understand this special offer correctly, for $199 you can buy 1.5 Mil Crystals which you then can't use to buy anything with?

[Retaliate 503]

36 minutes ago, GoldBox_WillNot_Fall said:

So if I understand this special offer correctly, for $199 you can buy 1.5 Mil Crystals which you then can't use to buy anything with?

You won't be able to buy anything in shop with the crystals, instead you can buy items in the garage with crystals. (Where you change equipment). If you want to buy a kit from the shop you will have to buy tankoins not crystals. 

[Intercept-1 80]

I am so happy  I've got myself 205k crystals.

My titan/smoky is m2, my prots are decent.

With the modifications update coming soon, what should I buy? Should I still go for chiropractor?

[StopChasingMe 50]

I'm also considering buying Firebird incendiary mix.  Is it actually worth the 160k crystals or should I just continue with the standard setting?

 

Thanks

[Towns 574]

On 12/18/2019 at 6:07 PM, StopChasingMe said:

I'm also considering buying Firebird incendiary mix.  Is it actually worth the 160k crystals or should I just continue with the standard setting?

 

Thanks

Buy it on the 50% sales.

[Joeguy 941]

I'm going to try my more advanced account again.  I'm a Brigadier (one star - level 23) and use M2 Freeze MU10 and M2 Twins MU10 (with the no splash damage alt).  I have n M2 Viking MU10 but I find it almost useless.  It gets knocked around worse than a Wasp and makes Twins almost useless when going up against M4 equipment (which is almost all the time)

 

I use Dictator in my lower alt accts and enjoy the OD.  I tend to use it with Smoky or Firebird and it does well for me.  I've done OK with Titan and Smoky in lower accts also but prefer the Dictator since the Titan is so slow.

 

I have enough crystals to buy some sort of M3 kit and MU it to M4 asap but I need to get through two more horrible ranks (all battles are my M2s vs M3 and M4).  Should I buy a Dictator or Titan?  I will MU10 either one asap, so eventually it will be used in my future M3 garage. 

 

What is going to help me though the pain of two more long ranks?  ...Titan's "ya can't kill me now" dome or Dictator's repair and full drugs?

 

I hope I can get a quick answer since I will buy one or the other in an hour or so.

Edited December 23, 2019 by Joeguy

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

1 hour ago, Joeguy said:

I'm going to try my more advanced account again.  I'm a Brigadier (one star - level 23) and use M2 Freeze MU10 and M2 Twins MU10 (with the no splash damage alt).  I have n M2 Viking MU10 but I find it almost useless.  It gets knocked around worse than a Wasp and makes Twins almost useless when going up against M4 equipment (which is almost all the time)

 

I use Dictator in my lower alt accts and enjoy the OD.  I tend to use it with Smoky or Firebird and it does well for me.  I've done OK with Titan and Smoky in lower accts also but prefer the Dictator since the Titan is so slow.

 

I have enough crystals to buy some sort of M3 kit and MU it to M4 asap but I need to get through two more horrible ranks (all battles are my M2s vs M3 and M4).  Should I buy a Dictator or Titan?  I will MU10 either one asap, so eventually it will be used in my future M3 garage. 

 

What is going to help me though the pain of two more long ranks?  ...Titan's "ya can't kill me now" dome or Dictator's repair and full drugs?

 

I hope I can get a quick answer since I will buy one or the other in an hour or so.

Hello there, and I do apologize if I'm a bit late to the party. While I don't think I can crank out a detailed response, I can at least tell you the advantages and disadvantages of each hull.

What you said about Viking was 100% correct. Other than the stupid OD which I hate people for using, it sickens me to use it because of its horrendous stability and weight.

I'm glad to see you enjoy Dictator - I like it a lot too just for the sole reason of helping out my teammates as well as offering unparalleled height and weight in battles. Titan is also good because it acts essentially as a bulkier and slower Dictator.

So when it comes to kits, you should buy something that can last you long. And when it comes to Titan, my problem with it is that it really isn't that good at M3. Hear me out - it's not bad, but when you've got one of the biggest jumps in stats from M1 to M2, there's not much room left for improvement. However, Dictator improves significantly, making it a top-tier M3 hull compared to the crappy M2 version that it was. Everything is great about it, although I do recommend to upgrade it to M4 so you can see just how amazing it really is.

Dictator pairs well with a lot of turrets when compared to Titan, and its OD can be much more useful as well. You can gain massive respect from teammates if you keep giving them ODs, as they will thank you in return by protecting you and letting you take care of the objective like in RGB. I think that overall you'll like it a lot more than you would Titan, because you'll probably be disappointed by how little it upgrades and how much it costs to do so, while with Dictator, you have this massive change.

So the answer is Dictator. And if you're planning on buying an M3 kit, then may I recommend Stormbringer? Vulcan M3 is also so, so good. Just give the combo a chance - I've recommended this kit to people in the past, who have no regret about buying it even today.
Anyway, I hope I'm in time to help you make the right choice. Happy buying, and merry Christmas!

[HappyFace 63]

Is Fire m1's alt significant in terms of its positives and negatives? To be honest I don't understand the point of it since you shouldn't play Fire to chase people...

 

Should I buy 3 m1 module this sale? I don't have any, but perhaps I should wait for m2 modules?

[Joeguy 941]

38 minutes ago, Tidebreaker said:

Spoiler

Hello there, and I do apologize if I'm a bit late to the party. While I don't think I can crank out a detailed response, I can at least tell you the advantages and disadvantages of each hull.

What you said about Viking was 100% correct. Other than the stupid OD which I hate people for using, it sickens me to use it because of its horrendous stability and weight.

I'm glad to see you enjoy Dictator - I like it a lot too just for the sole reason of helping out my teammates as well as offering unparalleled height and weight in battles. Titan is also good because it acts essentially as a bulkier and slower Dictator.

So when it comes to kits, you should buy something that can last you long. And when it comes to Titan, my problem with it is that it really isn't that good at M3. Hear me out - it's not bad, but when you've got one of the biggest jumps in stats from M1 to M2, there's not much room left for improvement. However, Dictator improves significantly, making it a top-tier M3 hull compared to the crappy M2 version that it was. Everything is great about it, although I do recommend to upgrade it to M4 so you can see just how amazing it really is.

Dictator pairs well with a lot of turrets when compared to Titan, and its OD can be much more useful as well. You can gain massive respect from teammates if you keep giving them ODs, as they will thank you in return by protecting you and letting you take care of the objective like in RGB. I think that overall you'll like it a lot more than you would Titan, because you'll probably be disappointed by how little it upgrades and how much it costs to do so, while with Dictator, you have this massive change.

So the answer is Dictator. And if you're planning on buying an M3 kit, then may I recommend Stormbringer? Vulcan M3 is also so, so good. Just give the combo a chance - I've recommended this kit to people in the past, who have no regret about buying it even today.
Anyway, I hope I'm in time to help you make the right choice. Happy buying, and merry Christmas!

 

Thanks for an insightful response.  For my 1st M3 kit, I was planning on buying Prometheus for Firebird and Module...the Hunter is just frosting for later MUs.  Stormbringer may now be my first M3 kit upon your recommendation.  Sadly, I already bought the M2 Titan just before your post...I hope it will make life easier for the next couple of ranks.  I wish I had waited a few more minutes, read your post, an picked up the Dictator instead...oh well...I'll see how the Titan goes.

 

By M3 time I will now have the Titan, and with Stormbringer, a Dictator as well as my Viking.  Freeze, Twins, and Vulcan (with Stormbringer) would be my turrets.  I can probably live without Firebird since Freeze is similar.  Now the question becomes which combo to bring to M4 first...but I have plenty of time to consider that

Edited December 23, 2019 by Joeguy

[TheCongoSpider 8,963]

44 minutes ago, HappyFace said:

Is Fire m1's alt significant in terms of its positives and negatives? To be honest I don't understand the point of it since you shouldn't play Fire to chase people...

Are you talking about High-Pressure Pump? 

 

The big challenge with it is aiming and keeping that aim when under impact force. It's recommended to use it exclusively if you want to learn playing it. Keep playing battles with it and get into firefights with many combos in many maps, and you'll get the hang of it. The last thing to learn before you master it is strafing with it. It is inherently bad at strafing because of the heavily decreased cone angle. Practise strafing enemies with it and see where your ticks of direct damage are not being counter and adjust your aim to suit. With time, it will become second nature.

 

Ugh, I have to do all that? Well, the upside is that you should be seeing faster kills on your enemies compared to Stock. Your maximum damage range is doubled and your minimum damage range is slightly increased. To visualise it, M4 Firebird has a minimum damage range of 20 metres and a maximum damage range of 10 metres. With the alteration, this changes to:

 

Maximum damage range: 20 metres

Minimum damage range: 22 metres

 

What does this mean? Well, M4 Firebird does 175 at most per tick of direct damage. Stock is able to do that damage up to 10 metres from the FIrebird turret. After that, the direct damage starts to drop until you reach 10% of direct damage at the edge., which would be 17.5 damage per tick. With High-Pressure Pump, you'd be dealing 175 damage up to 20 metres. So whereas you'd be dealing 17.5 damage per tick with Stock, you would be dealing 175 damage with H-PP. 

 

In a nutshell: If you can get complete control over the aiming, then almost your entire stream of fire would be dealing the maximum damage possible. It's great for the lower ranks, but you may not find it as useful as before in the higher ranks, where impact force is stronger. 

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

38 minutes ago, Joeguy said:

Thanks for an insightful response.  For my 1st M3 kit, I was planning on buying Prometheus for Firebird and Module...the Hunter is just frosting for later MUs.  Stormbringer may now be my first M3 kit upon your recommendation.  Sadly, I already bought the M2 Titan just before your post...I hope it will make life easier for the next couple of ranks.  I wish I had waited a few more minutes, read your post, an picked up the Dictator instead...oh well...I'll see how the Titan goes.

 

By M3 time I will now have the Titan, and with Stormbringer, a Dictator as well as my Viking.  Freeze, Twins, and Vulcan (with Stormbringer) would be my turrets.  I can probably live without Firebird since Freeze is similar.  Now the question becomes which combo to bring to M4 first...but I have plenty of time to consider that

Actually, that's probably the best thing you could have done. Titan M2 will definitely serve you over for some ranks, and since you don't need to upgrade it, you can save for Stormbringer. While Prometheus is good in the overall department, the problem lies in its module. Even with 35% resistance against CT users, you will get melted in mere seconds, making it almost a waste of time and crystals in order to get this module.

At least this way you'll get to try both.

I'd recommend for you to look into turrets which are not as commonly used so that you come up against as little prots as possible, such as Striker or Shaft. Both have cheap alts that can improve gameplay experience significantly, which is everything you would ever want. While I would recommend for you to invest into prots yourself, I don't know which ones you have/don't have. Would you mind sending me the ratings page of your other account?

[TWICE 798]

Talking about 1st M3 kit, I planned to buy either one of Cosmonaut / Man-o-War / Rock climber.  But after the release of the lousy Grauss, I would save all my coins for the Grauss kit (Matryoshka / Quark).

 

I should have used Isida long enough when I can gain access to M3 gears, and I definitely need a long range option in my garage.

[123tim456back 195]

5 hours ago, Joeguy said:

Thanks for an insightful response.  For my 1st M3 kit, I was planning on buying Prometheus for Firebird and Module...the Hunter is just frosting for later MUs.  Stormbringer may now be my first M3 kit upon your recommendation.  Sadly, I already bought the M2 Titan just before your post...I hope it will make life easier for the next couple of ranks.  I wish I had waited a few more minutes, read your post, an picked up the Dictator instead...oh well...I'll see how the Titan goes.

 

By M3 time I will now have the Titan, and with Stormbringer, a Dictator as well as my Viking.  Freeze, Twins, and Vulcan (with Stormbringer) would be my turrets.  I can probably live without Firebird since Freeze is similar.  Now the question becomes which combo to bring to M4 first...but I have plenty of time to consider that

You need a long to medium range turret, so you definitely want to get vulcan to m4.  You will have unlocked it earlier than twins and freeze m3 too.  As for the hull, Titan and dictator m3 both unlock at marshal, which is very far away.  

Dictator:

- allows you to get to m4 earlier because of stormbringer

- you like it more

- works well on maps where you can peek and not get hit, like on wolfenstein

- better at m3 and m4 according to Tide

 

Titan: 

- Better with incendiary Vulcan

 

However, dictator m4 being accessible to you earlier than Titan can be ignored if you can’t afford it anyways.  You can focus on getting Vulcan m4 first. 

 

Another thing you have to think about is whether to get Titan to m3. It will depend on your financial situation and whether you are willing to suffer through those ranks with m2 hulls.

 

One problem is stormbringers’ module.  I don’t think shark is that great of a protection because Vulcans aren’t that common. 

 

Gl hf.

Edited December 24, 2019 by 123tim456back

[StopChasingMe 50]

Having trouble figuring out how Firebird incendiary mix matches up vs standard Freeze in damage (HP/sec).

 

Incendiary mix is +50% damage "per tick" as opposed to damage per second. I'm not sure I know what a tick refers to.

 

Does this make the damage pretty much even with Freeze?

 

 

Edited December 25, 2019 by StopChasingMe

[123tim456back 195]

46 minutes ago, StopChasingMe said:

Having trouble figuring out how Firebird incendiary mix matches up vs standard Freeze in damage (HP/sec).

 

Incendiary mix is +50% damage "per tick" as opposed to damage per second. I'm not sure I know what a tick refers to.

 

Does this make the damage pretty much even with Freeze?

 

 

I believe ticks are the damage numbers.  Every number is a “tick”.  The difference between a damage tick and dps is that there can be more or less ticks depending on the frequency of the attacks.  

[TheCongoSpider 8,963]

7 hours ago, StopChasingMe said:

Having trouble figuring out how Firebird incendiary mix matches up vs standard Freeze in damage (HP/sec).

Incendiary mix is +50% damage "per tick" as opposed to damage per second. I'm not sure I know what a tick refers to.

Does this make the damage pretty much even with Freeze?

I was afraid that description might still cause confusion. When you're playing with Firebird, Freeze or Isida specifically, you have direct damage ticks that happen every 0.25 seconds: 4 times per second. Isida M4 does 1,000 damage per second. One tick would be 250 damage, 4 times over the course of one second. 

For Incendiary Mix, think of it like its overall damage being increased by 50%. M4 Firebird is 700 direct damage per second. Incendiary Mix would deal 700*150% = 1,050 damage per second. 

The damage is a good bit more than Freeze when shooting for extended periods of time. 

[Joeguy 941]

On 12/24/2019 at 4:21 AM, Tidebreaker said:

Actually, that's probably the best thing you could have done. Titan M2 will definitely serve you over for some ranks, and since you don't need to upgrade it, you can save for Stormbringer. While Prometheus is good in the overall department, the problem lies in its module. Even with 35% resistance against CT users, you will get melted in mere seconds, making it almost a waste of time and crystals in order to get this module.

At least this way you'll get to try both.

I'd recommend for you to look into turrets which are not as commonly used so that you come up against as little prots as possible, such as Striker or Shaft. Both have cheap alts that can improve gameplay experience significantly, which is everything you would ever want. While I would recommend for you to invest into prots yourself, I don't know which ones you have/don't have. Would you mind sending me the ratings page of your other account?

Wow, I really picked the wrong pony in this two pony horse race.  I buy Titan and they nerf it into garbage two days later...so very Tanki.  At least I only put three MUs into the now pointless hull.  And, I'm right back to where I was with no hope or help of getting through the next couple of ranks...and for this futility I'm only just a little over 61000 crystals poorer.  F the high ranks, it's back to new account to Warrant 1 then new account to Warrant 1 then new account to Warrant 1 ad infinitum until Tanki goes belly up.

[Tidebreaker 1,669]

@Joeguy Take it easy, there's always a cycle. Something becomes too bad, it'll become buffed in a month or so. Just wait it out.

[musamunir 30]

Hey guys how is everyone. I wanted to ask you all about this anyone who gets online please answer this question I am really confused. So I am about to buy a kit which I know will soon come to Garage and I wanted to ask you which kit I should buy out of these 3 so please kindly help me

1. Pitbull kit

2. Tornado kit

3.Firewall kit

Also I was to add the anachonda kit but I don't use Vulcan so whatever please answer this question I am really confused about this. I would really appreciate and only buy with your guys preference.