Declined Rework Pay2Win system.

[Crimson_Tank 285]

I know this game doesn't really accept ideas to make equipment cheaper, but just hear me out... 

My idea would be yes, cheaper weapons, such as M1s, M2s M3s. 

M1s - 2 999

M2s 6 999

M3s 10 999

My idea then for the economy would be to not add skins when buying new modifications. You get stronger weapons, but no skins with them. Normal M1 skins will have to be purchased using crystals or through the shop. 

Skins:

M1s 25 000 crystals each

M2s 96 100 crystals each

M3s 120 000 crystals each. 

XT skins will only be available in the shop. 

Paints will stay the same price. 

Premium holders get any free paint or skin when they purchase or acquire Premium from a mission. 

players should also be able to customize how many crystals are in gold boxes, but having to pay more money through the shop. 

Modules will also hold the same price. 

It would be a start to make the game less Pay2Win and more Pay2Cosmetic... 

[Maf 32,339]

Declined

 

You're right, we don't accept ideas for reducing items' prices. I see that you suggest to compensate for that with separate sale of equipment skins, but unfortunately cosmetics sell much worse compared to power, so people won't buy them and Tanki will lose revenue. The current system should stay as it is, especially considering that it's not impossible for free players to compete with "buyers" and get the same equipment as them.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Woah, that's way too cheap on the equipment, you could basically buy all of them at each modification and fully micro upgrade all of them at full price way before you get to the next equipment level. And that's way too Damn easy, which means no fun.

[Crimson_Tank 285]

I just remember why I play TX more than TO. 

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

You can easily earn 10k crystals in a week. Where's the fun in getting M3s within just a week of playing the game?

[Crimson_Tank 285]

You can easily earn 10k crystals in a week. Where's the fun in getting M3s within just a week of playing the game?

Maybe not everybody has a credit card. I'm not a buyer, so how can I earn 10k when I'm last because I have no supplies, and I don't have hundreds of hours to spare on a game because I get 200 crystals from a battle yet I have to pay over 1 million crystals without even being in the M3 zones...

[TheBlackChick 319]

Many players earn 40k or more each day. Moreover, getting things so easily doesn't make you really feel good about buying/using a certain item. A  year ago when I didn't really play much I was very happy when I got Isida and MUed it after saving for a few months. This summer I played a lot more...got 8 modules, 4 turrets, 1 hull and MUs in about 3 months but I don't really feel anything.

Maybe something like 150k-175k for each M3 turret/hull could work well.

[I-Hate-Druggers 192]

Im the same rank as you and I get around 2k or more a day. And its fine to me. Yes the prices could be more cheaper so it wouldnt be like whatever you get, you will stick with forever because you cant afford anything else. 

[cube3e 1,973]

it's not impossible for free players to compete with "buyers"

I agree with everything you said before this.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Maybe not everybody has a credit card. I'm not a buyer, so how can I earn 10k when I'm last because I have no supplies, and I don't have hundreds of hours to spare on a game because I get 200 crystals from a battle yet I have to pay over 1 million crystals without even being in the M3 zones...

I think you are over exaggerating yourself here. You probably saw the m3 equipment for the first time and your reaction was something like this:

 

"oh my goodness, look at all this stuff that I have to buy. My life is ruined now, I can't afford all of this."

 

Or something like that.

[Maf 32,339]

I agree with everything you said before this.

That statement will always be arguable. It depends on how much patience you have and how good you are at the game. Technically, if you win 100% of your battles and only play 15-30 minutes per day, you will be able to buy kits, get MUs, buy supplies as soon as they become available, thus making you equally as powerful as a person who buys all their crystals.

 

Maybe not completely equal, since a buyer can get a full garage and select turrets and modules that are more advantageous against the current enemy, but free players can still stay on a competitive level if they play smart.

[FTW 240]

it's not impossible for free players to compete with "buyers" and get the same equipment as them.

I don't agree with you here, it's so impossible for players to get same equipment as buyers nowadays also there is such a paints which cannot be given to free players you need to be a buyer in order to get them

[Maf 32,339]

I don't agree with you here, it's so impossible for players to get same equipment as buyers nowadays also there is such a paints which cannot be given to free players you need to be a buyer in order to get them

I don't consider paints to be "equipment". They're cosmetic items which are completely optional and not having an expensive paint does not make you inferior in gameplay compared to a player that has one. And Paints definitely have nothing to do with P2W, which is what this topic is about.

[Crimson_Tank 285]

I think you are over exaggerating yourself here. You probably saw the m3 equipment for the first time and your reaction was something like this:

 

"oh my goodness, look at all this stuff that I have to buy. My life is ruined now, I can't afford all of this."

 

Or something like that.

nope.

[Crimson_Tank 285]

Many players earn 40k or more each day. Moreover, getting things so easily doesn't make you really feel good about buying/using a certain item. A  year ago when I didn't really play much I was very happy when I got Isida and MUed it after saving for a few months. This summer I played a lot more...got 8 modules, 4 turrets, 1 hull and MUs in about 3 months but I don't really feel anything.

Maybe something like 150k-175k for each M3 turret/hull could work well.

 

You're at legend. You will earn more. Create a new account and fully upgrade smoky M1 to M2 before you get to warrant officer one without buying. It's not easy trust me. 

[TheBlackChick 319]

 

Ofc it's not easy. Smoky M2 is extremely expensive and OP for the lower ranks because it unlocks at the rank of Colonel, but there's no need to have such a strong turret at WO1 to play well and have fun.

Do you really want every Captain or Major to have a full set of M3 turrets and maybe even hulls? What would be the point of playing the game after that? There wouldn't really be anything to motivate people to actually play. Moreover, if higher modifications became as cheap as you suggsted then less people will bother spending real money since you can get everything so easy.

[Crimson_Tank 285]

Ofc it's not easy. Smoky M2 is extremely expensive and OP for the lower ranks because it unlocks at the rank of Colonel, but there's no need to have such a strong turret at WO1 to play well and have fun.

Do you really want every Captain or Major to have a full set of M3 turrets and maybe even hulls? What would be the point of playing the game after that? There wouldn't really be anything to motivate people to actually play. Moreover, if higher modifications became as cheap as you suggsted then less people will bother spending real money since you can get everything so easy.

Exactly, this game is basically Pay2Win, I understand the hate around the game now. It's because developers have a lack of care for players who don't buy. 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Exactly, this game is basically Pay2Win, I understand the hate around the game now. It's because developers have a lack of care for players who don't buy.

 

They need the money. No money for devs= game dies.

[TheWetDiaper 0]

Maybe not everybody has a credit card. I'm not a buyer, so how can I earn 10k when I'm last because I have no supplies, and I don't have hundreds of hours to spare on a game because I get 200 crystals from a battle yet I have to pay over 1 million crystals without even being in the M3 zones...

I have 4 m1 hulls and 3 m1 turrets most of which are 2/10 in micro upgrades and a stash of supplies in my garage. You can check my profile if you want proof. And no, I'm not a buyer because if I was, I would buy all the m1 kits and upgrade them to 10/10. Like you, I am a free player. Yes I do have a decent garage for a free player at my rank, but I do know that tanki has sales, and I use those sales to buy my equipment. And I do one mission a day, finish the battle and log off.

[Mr.General.Ghost 647]

This is  something which tanki knows but dont want to rework xD