Let's Discuss Matchmaking

[Nicola_M 1,563]

Not everyone can load into their garage before 2 minutes are up. It's better to have the right equipment right away than to lose even 30 seconds.

 

We should at least know what map we're being sent to so that we can have that result.

I agree, but knowing the map is only part of the issue - seeing who I'm up against influences what I need to equip often more than the map does.

Even before MM, when we could stay in the same map from one battle to the next, I still had to change out equipment depending on what the other side had.

 

It would be less of an issue if the battles weren't so short.

[pringerfinger 934]

I'm confused - How can a generalissimo complain about facing Legend rank in battles? People are blinded by the rank yet sometimes they can discover bigger unexperienced players at Legend ranks who may have 3000-4000 GS. It's surely not about the rank itself, it is about the player with its equipment and how maxed it is. I can play a battle and face generalissimo fully maxed out with 9999 GS. You have to invest into this game a little bit otherwise you complain for the last decade. 

I don't get it either. This is my First ever account. I have 7 M3s. One of which is M4. others are m3.5 or higher. I don't understand how people didn't learn to be wise with their crys early on like I did. They must get distracted with paints or something else of that sort.

[Guest]

It's either this or I'm facing Brigaders with m3 kits. Make actual balance, not battles where I'm the weakest guy there or Godmode_ON!

Edited January 11, 2019 by Guest

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

 

It's either this or I'm facing Brigaders with m3 kits. Make actual balance, not battles where I'm the weakest guy there or Godmode_ON!

 

Look at this. At first, the people in the battle were Captains, Lieutenant Colonels and Colonels but then a minute later, I stumbled upon a Major--General with M3 Duplet Hammer and M3 Viking. Man, why? 

 

Why must the Third Lieutenants suffer? I got a Major-General in DM when I was WO5. That should say something about the rank brackets. At least I did better than expected. I would have been higher but they stole many of my kills right before the last tick of fire damage was gonna kill them. 

 

 

 

The Duplet Hammer was  x_TAWERKA_x.

Edited January 11, 2019 by TheCongoSpider

[Nicola_M 1,563]

 but then a minute later, I stumbled upon a Major--General with M3 Duplet Hammer and M3 Viking. Man, why?

He may well have a duplet but his profile shows an M2 Hammer.

 

What I find astonishing is that he clearly has the Raiden kit (Viking M3, Thunder M3, Grizzly M3, Emerald paint) but that isn't available at his rank.

So how the hell has he got it?

[Nicola_M 1,563]

Mods, any thoughts on the above?

 

https://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/x_TAWERKA_x Major-General rank, running around with a Raiden kit that he shouldn't have until Lieutenant-General?

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Mods, any thoughts on the above?

 

https://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/x_TAWERKA_x Major-General rank, running around with a Raiden kit that he shouldn't have until Lieutenant-General?

 

Didn't they reduce the rank required to buy kits in the shop (not the garage) by two ranks? I heard from someone in the chat that said the reverted it back but maybe he was misinformed or he was talking about something that happened years ago.  

 

As of now, if the rank requirement is still decreased, the person could have gotten that since he/she was a Brigadier. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

Look at this. At first, the people in the battle were Captains, Lieutenant Colonels and Colonels but then a minute later, I stumbled upon a Major--General with M3 Duplet Hammer and M3 Viking. Man, why? 

 

Why must the Third Lieutenants suffer? I got a Major-General in DM when I was WO5. That should say something about the rank brackets. At least I did better than expected. I would have been higher but they stole many of my kills right before the last tick of fire damage was gonna kill them. 

 

 

 

The Duplet Hammer was  x_TAWERKA_x.

My second account which is it rank Colonel played a DM battle last night. 

 

Was doing ok, but even with use of lots of supplies I was struggling to get into top 3.  Hit tab to see my opposition and was shocked to see the leader was a Gismo.

 

Not shocked that a Gismo was leading.  Shocked that a Gismo was in a battle with my Colonel.  Like come on - that's just getting stupid.  Fighting tanks 8 ranks above me. :blink:

[Merovingian 656]

Mods, any thoughts on the above?

https://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/x_TAWERKA_x Major-General rank, running around with a Raiden kit that he shouldn't have until Lieutenant-General?

 

Didn't they reduce the rank required to buy kits in the shop (not the garage) by two ranks? I heard from someone in the chat that said the reverted it back but maybe he was misinformed or he was talking about something that happened years ago.  

As of now, if the rank requirement is still decreased, the person could have gotten that since he/she was a Brigadier.

You don't need to be a mod to solve this Tanki Mystery, just a player that was here 2 years ago.

Before the revamp of the M3 harmonization you could have many M3 product kits available at a lower rank than now. See below what was availble as M3 kit from this old era. 

 

 

I had enough crystals (390k)  but I was short on XP (freshly ranked to Colonel) to get the Raiden kit when they announced the update. I finally bought the Healer kit only interesting product kit at the time.

Edited January 11, 2019 by Merovingian

[Nicola_M 1,563]

You don't need to be a mod to solve this Tanki Mystery, just a player that was here 2 years ago.

 

I joined 2 years ago next month and I didn't get M3 of anything before Lt General rank.

That player's got half the hours I have, has mostly M2 equipment, and there's not much to show he's been here longer than 6 months.

And still with a kit that's odd he should have.

 

edit: re rebalance:

It used to be that kits like that were listed as available at Marshall rank, athough you could buy the Product Kit at Lt General rank,  That's how I got my Refrigerator kit (Viking M3) in February last year, 2 days after I got Lt General rank because I couldn't have it before that rank.

 

He's been here two years and only just reached Major-General?  Where's he been, prison?

Not sure I buy the idea he's been here that long.

Edited January 11, 2019 by Nicola_M

[CooperO 7,956]

Didn't they reduce the rank required to buy kits in the shop (not the garage) by two ranks? 

Yes, so it's likely the player bought an m3 kit from the shop.

[Merovingian 656]

I joined 2 years ago next month and I didn't get M3 of anything before Lt General rank.

That player's got half the hours I have, has mostly M2 equipment, and there's not much to show he's been here longer than 6 months.

And still with a kit that's odd he should have.

In December 2016,TO introduced the ratings, with that few hours and the rank he has it means he was a player from before the kit update and like my main account he was able to buy a kit M3 at lower rank than now. I save alt after that a d was a le to buy another m3 when it was available. Any good free player who knows how to manage Crystals could afford an M3 kit a rank below Lt at the time.

You can believe in hack or conspiracy, but the fact is that in the past it was possible and many slow tanker will have this garage.

He is a buyer so it is even easier to get many M2 and be able to afford a M3 on top.

Edited January 11, 2019 by Merovingian

[Nicola_M 1,563]

You could be right, but that would mean he had Brigadier rank prior to December 2016.... and it's taken him 2- and a bit years to go two ranks higher.

It's weird.

[Guest]

You could be right, but that would mean he had Brigadier rank prior to December 2016.... and it's taken him 2- and a bit years to go two ranks higher.

It's weird.

I'd say it's someone's alt account that he/she doesn't play often on.

[CooperO 7,956]

You could be right, but that would mean he had Brigadier rank prior to December 2016.... and it's taken him 2- and a bit years to go two ranks higher.

It's weird.

 

I'd say it's someone's alt account that he/she doesn't play often on.

As @TheCongoSpider said earlier:

 

Didn't they reduce the rank required to buy kits in the shop (not the garage) by two ranks?

[Nicola_M 1,563]

Wonder how newcomers to the game might feel, y'know, being faced with out of date info, like.

(Screengrab of bit of Product Kit wikipage, taken today.)

 

 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Bobruisk needs to be removed from MM

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

Bobruisk needs to be removed from MM

Yeah.... Everytime it put me there... let's say DM..... ended up doing bad.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Yeah.... Everytime it put me there... let's say DM..... ended up doing bad.

In team battles, it's extremely prone to spawn killings.

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

In team battles, it's extremely prone to spawn killings.

Yeah... this is why I don't do Team Battle anymore. I now play Juggernaut AND DM only on this account. Oh wait... my WO1 too, but only DM.

 

I'm sick of me and my teammates get dominated by enemy team repetitively. So annoying.

 

In DM, I don't need to worry about kept getting dominated by the same dude/dudette repeatedly.

 

Whether I get a team battle mission, spam my crystals (cuz I have more than 1 million) until gives me something that can be done @ DM/J-Boss mode.

 

One time I was playing DM, MM landed me to Highway DM 2 times in a row! LOL, this is my map for DM/J-Boss.

 

Did I mention my Hornet-Shaft love Highway DM?

Edited January 14, 2019 by FrozenRailgun

[OKDad70 862]

Here is balance for you: My account, Field Marshal Ricosck, a full M4 with a good set of protections, entered a Rugby. Mostly Legends, I didn't look up anyone's profile. Within the first few seconds, Ricosck managed to out battle two enemies for the ball. I made it to the enemy base before being destroyed. Somehow, by the time I respawned and tried to get to the ball, they had scored against us.

 

It seemed most of their team knew how to play Rugby, and they were working together. It looked like we'd lose 7 to 0 in five minutes, but somehow, an Isida worked very effectively with me and the one other player on our team who seemed interested in advancing the ball. The Isida was smart and effective. (I appreciate being able to say that. I normally complain about Isida. Some of you will have noticed.)

 

Somehow, we managed to complete the battle 6 to 1. Amazingly, I scored all six of the goals. I don't know how. I think of myself as good, but with a little help from a Ricochet-Viking, and a lot of help from the Isida-Viking, I managed to score all six of the goals. Mostly, I was lucky. My persistence paid off for a change. (My score was more than the next three players combined.)

 

Though I'm bragging, my real problem is the imbalance. The opponent team seemed to be heavily favored in the matchup, except for me. It really seemed to be three on six the whole battle, and the three of us came out on top six goals to one. How?

 

Match making messed up the balance of the battle bad, but it wasn't imbalanced the way it usually is. 

 

Match making cannot work. Match making cannot account for different styles, different objectives, different equipment, different garage change potential, and different skill level. Match making cannot account for an Isida that works synergistically with an overly aggressive Ricochet-Dictator.

 

Match making doesn't work. It needs to be abandoned.

 

I ask the Devs to explain why they keep forcing MM on us.

 

What is the justification for such unbalanced battles? Why keep using such a hopeless system, a system that cannot possibly balance battles more than once in a while? Why?

[Truthteller 4,204]

I like it when there is teamwork involved makes the game much more fun to play

[wolverine848 13,097]

Here is balance for you: My account, Field Marshal Ricosck, a full M4 with a good set of protections, entered a Rugby. Mostly Legends, I didn't look up anyone's profile. Within the first few seconds, Ricosck managed to out battle two enemies for the ball. I made it to the enemy base before being destroyed. Somehow, by the time I respawned and tried to get to the ball, they had scored against us.

 

 

 

It seemed most of their team knew how to play Rugby, and they were working together. It looked like we'd lose 7 to 0 in five minutes, but somehow, an Isida worked very effectively with me and the one other player on our team who seemed interested in advancing the ball. The Isida was smart and effective. (I appreciate being able to say that. I normally complain about Isida. Some of you will have noticed.)

 

Somehow, we managed to complete the battle 6 to 1. Amazingly, I scored all six of the goals. I don't know how. I think of myself as good, but with a little help from a Ricochet-Viking, and a lot of help from the Isida-Viking, I managed to score all six of the goals. Mostly, I was lucky. My persistence paid off for a change. (My score was more than the next three players combined.)

 

Though I'm bragging, my real problem is the imbalance. The opponent team seemed to be heavily favored in the matchup, except for me. It really seemed to be three on six the whole battle, and the three of us came out on top six goals to one. How?

 

Match making messed up the balance of the battle bad, but it wasn't imbalanced the way it usually is. 

 

Match making cannot work. Match making cannot account for different styles, different objectives, different equipment, different garage change potential, and different skill level. Match making cannot account for an Isida that works synergistically with an overly aggressive Ricochet-Dictator.

 

Match making doesn't work. It needs to be abandoned.

 

I ask the Devs to explain why they keep forcing MM on us.

 

 

 

What is the justification for such unbalanced battles? Why keep using such a hopeless system, a system that cannot possibly balance battles more than once in a while? Why?

If your team won 6-1 it could not have been nearly as unbalanced as you initially thought.

 

I agree match-Maker has a ton of issues - but a 6-1 battle where "weaker" team won does not help prove that case.

 

I like it when there is teamwork involved makes the game much more fun to play

Yeah - but that happens .... 1 in every 10 battles?

[Nicola_M 1,563]

I like it when there is teamwork involved makes the game much more fun to play

Unless your team has absolutely no understanding of English, and even less understanding of teamwork.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

If your team won 6-1 it could not have been nearly as unbalanced as you initially thought.

 

I agree match-Maker has a ton of issues - but a 6-1 battle where "weaker" team won does not help prove that case.

 

 

Yeah - but that happens .... 1 in every 100 battles?

Fixed.