Let's Discuss Matchmaking

[TaffyTank 1,890]

Still loads of inactives in Matchmaking battles. I and others complained about this during the initial MM topic. This was ages ago now, still nothing has been done. In fact some of the missions added since have encouraged even more inactives.

This was a TDM battle...we had no hope of winning. The only reason for the rest of us to stay was stars, cos even on an x2 funds day the reward was garbage because we got thrashed.

 

This is one of the main causes of inbalance in MM.

[Bydo 20,123]

there is no way MM system is balanced for players . been in way too many this week seeing the same old games happening..these guys had no chance to even get on point to make a score..

 

also wondering why there is less golds dropping but in your post it say's 5X times more will be given away??

 

and also again today gold box is giving us the siren but not words on the top of our screens for it..

 

see the other day joining in a battle which had red and blue words on the top of the page in a CP battle ( might have been flag) . will send in photo I took of it.. for proof

 

Edited February 14, 2019 by Bydo

[wolverine848 13,097]

Still loads of inactives in Matchmaking battles. I and others complained about this during the initial MM topic. This was ages ago now, still nothing has been done. In fact some of the missions added since have encouraged even more inactives.

 

 

This was a TDM battle...we had no hope of winning. The only reason for the rest of us to stay was stars, cos even on an x2 funds day the reward was garbage because we got thrashed.

 

This is one of the main causes of inbalance in MM.

I agree.  

 

And yet Mods will reply to your post an say there are no mults in MM.  They ignore inactives which are just as bad.

 

When MM first came out I advocated for a lobby (one of the few decent aspects of Tanki-X).

Was basically rejected because "players won't want to wait that long".

Hello???  of course they will if it increases chances of a fair battle.

 

there is no way MM system is balanced for players . been in way too many this week seeing the same old games happening..these guys had no chance to even get on point to make a score..

 

also wondering why there is less golds dropping but in your post it say's 5X times more will be given away??

 

and also again today gold box is giving us the siren but not words on the top of our screens for it..

 

see the other day joining in a battle which had red and blue words on the top of the page in a CP battle ( might have been flag) . will send in photo I took of it.. for proof

Less golds maybe because battles are much shorter - less opportunity.

 

I like how even half of your team did not get any stars.  BATTLES ARE TOO SHORT.

[TaffyTank 1,890]

I agree.  

 

And yet Mods will reply to your post an say there are no mults in MM.  They ignore inactives which are just as bad.

 

When MM first came out I advocated for a lobby (one of the few decent aspects of Tanki-X).

Was basically rejected because "players won't want to wait that long".

Hello???  of course they will if it increases chances of a fair battle.

Mods don't even bother replying nowadays, they just move our posts into some other topic. I posted that in the complaint book topic because there wasn't a mention of it on the list there, some mod decided in their infinite wisdom to bury it here and pretend it isn't an issue, as usual.

 

Anyway, can't remember the Tanki-X lobby you mentioned. Only played it briefly for the 10 container giveaway promo last year and wasn't paying attention. If it's the list of participants shown before the battle and you have to confirm your place in that battle, then that would fix some of the problem, then deal with mission inactives.etc.etc.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Mods don't even bother replying nowadays, they just move our posts into some other topic. I posted that in the complaint book topic because there wasn't a mention of it on the list there, some mod decided in their infinite wisdom to bury it here and pretend it isn't an issue, as usual.

 

Anyway, can't remember the Tanki-X lobby you mentioned. Only played it briefly for the 10 container giveaway promo last year and wasn't paying attention. If it's the list of participants shown before the battle and you have to confirm your place in that battle, then that would fix some of the problem, then deal with mission inactives.etc.etc.

This - yes.

 

You see map - can tailor equipment to map, and battle does not start until teams are even and confirmed.

 

No guarantee players wont exit after battle starts - but - better chance for a fair battle and we don't have to waste time in garage right off the bat.

[Bydo 20,123]

Less golds maybe because battles are much shorter - less opportunity.

 

I like how even half of your team did not get any stars.  BATTLES ARE TOO SHORT.

that is only part of the issues with MM . the other part is being pulled into battles with less time on the timer. Or even being pulled into battles with a higher winning score on the other team due to players leaving cause there is little to no chance of even getting any scores.

[wolverine848 13,097]

that is only part of the issues with MM . the other part is being pulled into battles with less time on the timer. Or even being pulled into battles with a higher winning score on the other team due to players leaving cause there is little to no chance of even getting any scores.

Oh I agree.

 

baby steps...

[HAR_MX_GOLD 0]

change other game play , this game has dead , many mult and hacker for MM , tanki has not ban , because  tanki want all MM  all has use mult play MM , many use CE program cheat ! MM now has not balance , many people has not done mission well be left this game

[Nicola_M 1,563]

that is only part of the issues with MM . the other part is being pulled into battles with less time on the timer. Or even being pulled into battles with a higher winning score on the other team due to players leaving cause there is little to no chance of even getting any scores.

There is another side - being pulled into a game where you're on the winning side, and the other team is outnumbered and losing.

 

e.g. A day or so ago I got put on a Magistral CP in the blue team - 5 or 6 of us - and we had two CP points already.

The red team had only three players (Vulcan and 2x Isidas), and they sat on the one remaining CP and refused to leave it to claim another.

[Triple 98]

Matchmaking is a thing, where you have to wait over a minute to get into battle, where you team is losing 27-0, what am i supposed to do there???

 

It`s not fair for low-ranked players, just make a new account and you will understand. Even on my current rank, they`re sometimes putting Staff Sergant or from Master Sergant to Sergant Major, like what the hell are they supposed to do anything in our battle? xD

 

The game is dying, matchmaking is one of the reasons, but hey "we realised hammer xt, go buy mate"

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Matchmaking is a thing, where you have to wait over a minute to get into battle, where you team is losing 27-0, what am i supposed to do there???

 

It`s not fair for low-ranked players, just make a new account and you will understand. Even on my current rank, they`re sometimes putting Staff Sergant or from Master Sergant to Sergant Major, like what the hell are they supposed to do anything in our battle? xD

 

The game is dying, matchmaking is one of the reasons, but hey "we realised hammer xt, go buy mate"

I had two battles yesterday where my lower account (your rank) had been put into a battle where the highest player besides me on any of the two teams was WO5. There were mixtures of low WOs and some sergeants on each team. I found it quite unfair that MM put me in those battles as I got more than 25 kills in both battles. I had lost one of them though. 

 

 

 

Still loads of inactives in Matchmaking battles. I and others complained about this during the initial MM topic. This was ages ago now, still nothing has been done. In fact some of the missions added since have encouraged even more inactives.

This was a TDM battle...we had no hope of winning. The only reason for the rest of us to stay was stars, cos even on an x2 funds day the reward was garbage because we got thrashed.

 

This is one of the main causes of inbalance in MM.

 

 

I had a frustrating experience a few years ago on one of my low-rank accounts where two players on my team in a Gravity TDM battle were constantly driving off the edge and deducting our points. I remember using Hammer and Thunder with Hornet using constant supplies (I didn't have much back then) just to make my team win. I ended up getting more than 700 score from kills and assists but sadly, we lost 100-97. We were 99-99 and then both of the mults drove off the edge at the same time and the score was reduced to 97 while I was respawning. One of the Thunders on the enemy team got the last kill and we lost. 

 

I was so furious when that happened and I never forgot it. 

 

 

 

Yeah right.  <_<

[Bydo 20,123]

There is another side - being pulled into a game where you're on the winning side, and the other team is outnumbered and losing.

 

e.g. A day or so ago I got put on a Magistral CP in the blue team - 5 or 6 of us - and we had two CP points already.

The red team had only three players (Vulcan and 2x Isidas), and they sat on the one remaining CP and refused to leave it to claim another.

been seeing way too many now sitting on points to rack up the scores or to stop the other team counter to go up on the counter.

 

Im the past not sure but if I remember right ...it was against the rules to do this , but now they allow it. which is so unfair for those working hard to play,,

Edited February 17, 2019 by Bydo

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Ok, I just got out of a Red Alert DM and I saw something interesting. I came first place with 28 kills and the second place player, who was a WO3, got 23 kills. The strange thing is that I got 890 crystals at the end of the battle but the player (https://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/xch) who got second place got 1,160 crystals I think. All I remember seeing was the first two numbers of the 4 numbers were "1 1" with the space signifying that it was more than 1000. 

 

It's weird because we both had premium so I should have gotten more crystals in theory.  What I suspect is that since he was a lower rank than me (I was the second highest rank in that battle and the rank bracket was WO1 - 1st Lieutenant) He would receive more crystals than me which, in my opinion, is something good. 

 

Have the devs said anything about this?

[CooperO 7,956]

Ok, I just got out of a Red Alert DM and I saw something interesting. I came first place with 28 kills and the second place player, who was a WO3, got 23 kills. The strange thing is that I got 890 crystals at the end of the battle but the player (https://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/xch) who got second place got 1,160 crystals I think. All I remember seeing was the first two numbers of the 4 numbers were "1 1" with the space signifying that it was more than 1000. 

 

It's weird because we both had premium so I should have gotten more crystals in theory.  What I suspect is that since he was a lower rank than me (I was the second highest rank in that battle and the rank bracket was WO1 - 1st Lieutenant) He would receive more crystals than me which, in my opinion, is something good. 

 

Have the devs said anything about this?

The player must still have had the beginner pass, which gives 50% extra experience points and 100% extra crystals earned in battles.

[AncientFire 1,894]

The player must still have had the beginner pass, which gives 50% extra experience points and 100% extra crystals earned in battles.

At warrant officer 2?!

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

The player must still have had the beginner pass, which gives 50% extra experience points and 100% extra crystals earned in battles.

I looked at it. It makes perfect sense that he would still have the pass active. His overall EXP earned matches the amount he earned so far these past two weeks adding the premium and beginner's pass to it. Everything else like the gold boxes he caught, his crystals earned and hours played also coincide with his statistics. Thanks Cooper. 

 

The guy must have been playing non-stop trying to milk out as much from the beginner's pass, premium and x2 funds as possible. 

[AncientFire 1,894]

I looked at it. It makes perfect sense that he would still have the pass active. His overall EXP earned matches the amount he earned so far these past two weeks adding the premium and beginner's pass to it. Everything else like the gold boxes he caught, his crystals earned and hours played also coincide with his statistics. Thanks Cooper. 

 

The guy must have been playing non-stop trying to milk out as much from the beginner's pass, premium and x2 funds as possible. 

no-lifer -,-

[Truthteller 4,204]

No joke, I was playing with my brother on low rank accounts and a warrant officer literally got paired with a Gefreiter (3rd rank and above private) 

 

RIP new playerbase

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

No joke, I was playing with my brother on low rank accounts and a warrant officer literally got paired with a Gefreiter (3rd rank and above private) 

 

RIP new playerbase

That isn't particularly odd considering that the average rank brackets are usually 7-8 ranks normally and 10-11 when stretched. Gefreiter - WO1 is an 8-rank bracket. While not surprising, I find it rather disturbing that it affects the lowest of the ranks like that. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

they can't play each other unless the lower rank was part of a group that contained higher ranks.

 

These rank limits should prevent that without groups.

 

https://en.tankiwiki.com/Rank_limits

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

No joke, I was playing with my brother on low rank accounts and a warrant officer literally got paired with a Gefreiter (3rd rank and above private) 

 

RIP new playerbase

Boi, I even face Field Marshal in my rank right now!

 

Biggest. Rank gap. Ever.

[AncientFire 1,894]

Boi, I even face Field Marshal in my rank right now!

 

Biggest. Rank gap. Ever.

nothing compared to me facing generalissmos

 

not once but more than FIVE TIMES!!

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

nothing compared to me facing generalissmos

 

not once but more than FIVE TIMES!!

I had played in a match with the rank gap being 11 ranks. 

 

 

Don't underestimate that Sergeant. He was able to get 100 score before anyone else reached 30 score. I and a few others then proceded to pass him as the enemies had gained their footing.  :P

[Truthteller 4,204]

R.I.P good thing I didn't face this when I was a low rank  <_<

[Truthteller 4,204]

Any of you know why in some battles there are 3 6 stars given to players in come battles? I saw it in Kunger CP and in ASL before