Let's Discuss Matchmaking

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

What exactly do you think causes a battle to have 9 players on one team and 8 players on the enemy team? Hopefully this will be fixed after we convert to HTML5. 

 

It's really unfair when the enemy has extra manpower that actually players and not mult. Sometimes, 2 players out of the 9 might not be playing up to standard or straight out multing, but in this battle, everyone was playing. 

 

 

 

And if that and having inferior equipment to them wasn't enough, rout2 was a Viking + Freeze speed hacker and captured 2 of the 3 flags they captured. Really sucks when you know that you're going to lose but have to go through it anyway. The guy had the audacity to say "GG". 

 

 

 

 

 

The only thing good that came from that battle was a great play P00K13 and I made at the beginning of the battle where we took different routes to intercept the flag holder. I swooped in and took the enemy flag right before the player captured it and then P00K13 came from behind and killed him to return the flag. 

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

I really don't want to come across as spamming but a lot has been happening lately. This guy got lucky with the scoreboard glitch in DM.

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's weird is that it looks like the battle ended at 30 kills, but he has 31. Rather weird. 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

I really don't want to come across as spamming but a lot has been happening lately. This guy got lucky with the scoreboard glitch in DM.

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's weird is that it looks like the battle ended at 30 kills, but he has 31. Rather weird.

 

Maybe he got a double kill at the end?

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Maybe he got a double kill at the end?

There were times when I got double kills with Magnum when I was on 29 kills and it always went to 30 and not 31. But this was before the new scoring system. I'll see if it's still like that or not. 

 

I am almost 100% sure the guy didn't get a double kill. 

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Late-day DM MM battles are the worst sometimes. 

 

 

 

 

 

I saw this guy getting a lot of kills with Thunder but I hadn't seen him for half of the battle. I encounter him and this is him:

 

 

 

 

 

 

You honestly can't get any better than that. The guy has enough damage to one-shot me without the Booster Drone's help. The guy can one-shot me even if I have double armour and 27% Thunder protection. 

 

Those were really frustrating battles. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

Just finished another CTF battle where other team won 5-0.  Was 8 vs 5 ENTIRE battle.

 

FIX THIS!  :angry:

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Just finished another CTF battle where other team won 5-0.  Was 8 vs 5 ENTIRE battle.

 

FIX THIS!  :angry:

You know what also needs to be fixed regarding MM?

 

The fact that it puts you in a map where your CET does terribly in.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

In DM battles, if you'd like to have some extra fun on the side, you can try to outscore a particular player if you and that player both had great starts.

 

 

 

 

 

Wagamama and I both had great starts but his was better. I tried my best to outscore him but I failed. He was M3 XP and I was M2. 

 

The second battle, we got placed together again and this time, i had a better start, which ended with me beating him. 

 

 

 

 

 

Sometimes, you gotta make your own fun in the chaos that is MM. Whether it be imaginary or not. 

[SulfuricAcid 504]

The algorithm of the MMS sends me to the teams where most of its players either leave the battle or are inactive. The algorithm sends me to noob teams due to my pro garage and my teammates garage are noob. So it is really and seriously revise needed.

Thank you.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

10 minutes after the server restart. Was placed with a high-rank group of players. I had a reeeeeally great start. At one point, I had 11 kills, 2 deaths, while the 2nd place player had 3 kills. Decided to take this screenshot as I was soon to be overtaken by the others. 

 

 

End result:

 

 

 

 

 

The thing that cost me was how undergraded my Hornet was compared to their turrets. I had 27% protection against Thunder and at one point, a Sledgehammer Thunder in the battle nearly one-shot me. Left me with a sliver of HP. I did good. Could have taken first place if a few scenarios went in my favour. 

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

10 minutes after the server restart. Was placed with a high-rank group of players. I had a reeeeeally great start. At one point, I had 11 kills, 2 deaths, while the 2nd place player had 3 kills. Decided to take this screenshot as I was soon to be overtaken by the others. 

 

 

End result:

 

 

 

 

 

The thing that cost me was how undergraded my Hornet was compared to their turrets. I had 27% protection against Thunder and at one point, a Sledgehammer Thunder in the battle nearly one-shot me. Left me with a sliver of HP. I did good. Could have taken first place if a few scenarios went in my favour. 

Colonel vs Legend  :blink:  :blink:  :blink:  :blink:

[Viking4s 10,791]

Since rotating my turret doesn't do much to your combat, I'm focusing on my equipment.

A lot of the time, M3s (M2s but fully MUed) keep on wrecking my M1.3 MU Viking. So, if you think MM is fair at this stage, you're so off,[...]

I disagree, rotating your turret gives you a huge advantage. The good thing is that you can do both, focusing on your equipment AND turning your turret. These two are not exclusive.

 

I only like fresh milk (ain't no Dutch). You are half right, MM is not fair, but at any ranks. 

 

The difference in equipment level is the driver/motivation to try to improve and get better equipment. Without that there would be no spice in the mix, no challenge. You would grind everyday and ranks boringly. Ranking would mean not much anymore, just the fact that you played the game longer than others. Difference of level and rank within a team is what make a battle interesting, and you will have mixed together strong players and weak players (same for the opposite team). Sometime you will be the later sometime the former. If you are the later then it will be difficult for you so you will have to count on the other to win. on the other case the team will count on you to drive them to victory. Every battle would be different. So don't forget you are not alone in a team combat mode.

 

Good example is XP/BP, in that formatted battle everybody has the same boring equipment, same level, all the same (boring). No needs to ranks - no need to improve your equipment, only to improve your skills, the ranks means nothing, the xp means nothing, the crystal are void of interest. What would be interesting is to have a league system so you could genuinely boast about your skills, different league would be the new ranking system.

[Okami 3,041]

Colonel vs Legend  :blink:  :blink:  :blink:   :blink:

DM has the highest rank spread because few people play it. At , I've battled people as low as and as high as (in different battles of course).

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Out of those that use the "quick battle" button, has anyone been sent to a DM battle recently, like since the new HTML5 version has been out? I'm getting the vibes that it only sends you to team battles nowadays.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Out of those that use the "quick battle" button, has anyone been sent to a DM battle recently, like since the new HTML5 version has been out? I'm getting the vibes that it only sends you to team battles nowadays.

I still use Flash. And since when did Quick Battle put you in DM? I thought it was team-battle-only. It has always sent me to a team battle and if I wanted to do DM, I'd have choose it. 

[Viking4s 10,791]

I still use Flash. And since when did Quick Battle put you in DM? I thought it was team-battle-only. It has always sent me to a team battle and if I wanted to do DM, I'd have choose it. 

Do you don't remember the good old time where DM were made of Russian teams :)

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

I still use Flash. And since when did Quick Battle put you in DM? I thought it was team-battle-only. It has always sent me to a team battle and if I wanted to do DM, I'd have choose it.

 

So you're telling me that the devs intentionally excluded DM from the Quick Battle system to make players unable to do well without a team?

[Ninja 10,468]

Out of those that use the "quick battle" button, has anyone been sent to a DM battle recently, like since the new HTML5 version has been out? I'm getting the vibes that it only sends you to team battles nowadays.

Its always been team battles only team battles, hence the descriptions:

 

 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Its always been team battles only team battles, hence the descriptions:

 

 

But why would they make a quick battle button only for team battles?

[Ninja 10,468]

But why would they make a quick battle button only for team battles?

Probably because team modes are arguably more fun than DM to the average player. In DM unless you have a powerful tank for your rank you'll constantly die while in team modes you get to rely on your team to avoid dying so much.

 

Constantly dying after pressing Quick Battle isnt the best for player retention, excluding DM from the pool maybe helps that a little bit. Just guessing here.

 

For me personally; I find DM extremely dull even though I do have said powerful tank and can easily reach 1st or 2nd without much effort. I only play DMs for stars as I much prefer the challenge of team mode objectives, actually capping the flags, balls etc.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Probably because team modes are arguably more fun than DM to the average player. In DM unless you have a powerful tank for your rank you'll constantly die while in team modes you get to rely on your team to avoid dying so much.

 

Constantly dying after pressing Quick Battle isnt the best for player retention, excluding DM from the pool maybe helps that a little bit. Just guessing here.

 

For me personally; I find DM extremely dull even though I do have said powerful tank and can easily reach 1st or 2nd without much effort. I only play DMs for stars as I much prefer the challenge of team mode objectives, actually capping the flags, balls etc.

That's because it was done horribly. 16 to 20 players would only be suitable for maps like deathtrack, skylark, skyscrapers, lost temple, Berlin, or even dusseldorf. For small maps like bobruisk, sandbox, sandal, Iran, cross, etc: 8 to 10 players would suffice.

[Okami 3,041]

 

DM is fun, but admittedly gets repetitive after a while.

 

However, I've found that it's great for "___ kills" weekly missions.

Edited October 8, 2019 by GrayWolf8733

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Should Viking really be buffed if it's played so often? 

 

 

And there were 3 Vikings on the enemy team. But enough about that. This specific battle was just crazy. We have all these Viking Overdrives going off, but what's worse, there is now a way to cheese capturing flags in this map in ASL. There were these 2 Thunder Wasp players that would drive up the ramp onto that small barrier there and parkour themselves into the flag capture. Most of the flag captures were like that. 

 

Sadly, we ended up losing 65-63 as they captured in the last seconds. They have a Gauss that keep shooting into our base. They had a Uranium Striker shooting into our base from the left bridge. I unequipped my Thunder module and was getting 2-shotted in less than 2 seconds. The constant bombs from the 3 Wasps in the enemy team made me lag every time I latched my beam onto an ally halfway into the battle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Waiiiit, I just realised, they had 9 players, who were all contributing. Wow, no wonder. 

[Ninja 10,468]

 

I actually really enjoy these totally chaotic battles, its such a new feel to the game. The final score sounds pretty balanced to me, I've had one very similar battle in the same map/mode. Sounds like you guys needed a few Titan domes to secure the win, but hey one team has to lose right.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Sounds like you guys needed a few Titan domes to secure the win, 

RIGHT?! 

 

Man I was so unfortunate that 6 of my 7 teammates are vertically challenged which puts more stress on me trying to heal them when they're constantly moving. When I saw the number of VIkings, I didn't think we were going to win that. Titan domes would have been a godsend for how much different turrets were shooting in the base every second. 

 

But that lag-with-healing this was a problem for a bit in that battle. I would be getting around 40 FPS but when I latch my beam onto the ally, I get a freeze frame for 2 seconds then go back to about 40. Rinse and repeat for about a minute until it stopped for itself. That started happening after the two Wasps dropped their bombs together.

 

The final scores looked balance but the experience sure wasn't. I want to see how many players I catch using this parkour tactic in this map again. 

 

I actually really enjoy these totally chaotic battles, its such a new feel to the game. 

They're enjoyable if the teams are at a stalemate or if one is slightly better than the other. Ones where you're being spawnkilled by Viking Overdrives isn't fun, but both teams locking horns at each other.in all areas of the map is fun. 

 

but hey one team has to lose right.

Or they can draw. Stalemate battles like 1-1 or 2-2 are always engaging.