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I don't know how or why, but more often than not, I join a battle and like 90% of the time, my team instantly starts losing. The enemy has supplies all-round, even though the match has only started. Sometimes this happens even when MY team gets a head start with the overdrive supply.

 

What is going on? Bad luck? But this is reoccurring! You would think that at least a third of the time, I would be on the winning team, but it is not the case. And I am not counting the times where I'm on the winning team, but I'm just unlucky with the circumstances and keep getting destroyed without getting kills or anything, even when using supplies.

 

Either I am cursed, or there is something seriously wrong with match-making prioritisation.

 

EDIT: Last 5 matches just now, my team being dominated by the opponents, WHAT IS HAPPENING?!

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Illuminati confirmed xD

 

I am often surprisingly the one who carry my team. Since November Smoky buff, I started to use Titan Smoky (M1,5 at that time, now I have M2). Buffed Smoky was much better for me that Shaft or Rico so I got used to it fast and it was OP just until this recent Shaft/Magnum buff. Now it is balanced.

 

I also bought Incendiary alt for Smoky to make it even stronger.

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You're not alone, I noticed this happen to me as well, guess it's a combination of bad luck and matchmaking.

 

A solution may be to join some deathmatch battles if you're sick of being on a loosing team, that's the only way I get the top 3 spot missions done anyway.

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Try to join reputable clan with good players and play in a group.

 

More often than you think, single players are placed to matches, where other team has 3 clan/group players. If these players are all full druggers and actually coordinated, it's quite hard to play and win. 

 

We did today 19 matches and didn't even loose single CTF battle. All 3 of us was always TOP 3 in leaderboard. But after that did few solo MM-s and lost 2/3.

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You're not alone, I noticed this happen to me as well, guess it's a combination of bad luck and matchmaking's flaws.

 

A solution may be to join some deathmatch battles if you're sick of being on a loosing team, that's the only way I get the top 3 spot missions done anyway.

Lol, deathmatch is a death trap if you don't use supplies constantly.

 

 

Try to join reputable clan with good players and play in a group.

 

More often than you think, single players are placed to matches, where other team has 3 clan/group players. If these players are all full druggers and actually coordinated, it's quite hard to play and win. 

 

We did today 19 matches and didn't even loose single CTF battle. All 3 of us was always TOP 3 in leaderboard. But after that did few solo MM-s and lost 2/3.

That would explain it a bit better then, I guess.

 

 

Illuminati confirmed xD

 

I am often surprisingly the one who carry my team. Since November Smoky buff, I started to use Titan Smoky (M1,5 at that time, now I have M2). Buffed Smoky was much better for me that Shaft or Rico so I got used to it fast and it was OP just until this recent Shaft/Magnum buff. Now it is balanced.

 

I also bought Incendiary alt for Smoky to make it even stronger.

Smoky and Magnum are OP in just so many ways. Firebird feels similar, but not as much. Would not recommend taking it for the team at all, you get nothing in return for it unless your team is also good. Just wasted supplies and patience.

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Yes, that happens quite often. MM puts me on the losing team in a battle already in progress and the score gap is too far to bridge. If battle starts at 0-0, the enemy team has scored and taken over our base within the first 2 minutes. From that point on they are spawn killing (outta be a law against spawn killing). OR our team tries to make it into a TDM (automatic loss). The other day, I played for 3 hours (a marathon for me) and was on a winning team twice. Even if I change turrets and hulls or go on another account...no difference. That's why I don't usually play the long hours I used to. Now, I spend more time in the forums than I do on the battlefield.

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Smoky and Magnum are OP in just so many ways. Firebird feels similar, but not as much. Would not recommend taking it for the team at all, you get nothing in return for it unless your team is also good. Just wasted supplies and patience.

I always do my best in battles, even if my team is heavily losing and getting spawn-killed because I want to increase my k/d, help my team and complete missions. I simply cannot just let my team lose, I try hard to win.

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Try to join reputable clan with good players and play in a group.

 

More often than you think, single players are placed to matches, where other team has 3 clan/group players. If these players are all full druggers and actually coordinated, it's quite hard to play and win. 

 

We did today 19 matches and didn't even loose single CTF battle. All 3 of us was always TOP 3 in leaderboard. But after that did few solo MM-s and lost 2/3.

Mods keep trying to deny this - but I really don't believe them. 

 

If a groups clicks battle and another group is not available they will start the battle versus singles.  No way they make them wait 3-5 minutes.

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More often than you think, single players are placed to matches, where other team has 3 clan/group players. If these players are all full druggers and actually coordinated, it's quite hard to play and win.

Mods keep trying to deny this - but I really don't believe them. 

If a groups clicks battle and another group is not available they will start the battle versus singles.  No way they make them wait 3-5 minutes.

If you have any screenshot that support your claim then post in Bugs & Glitches Reports.

Start of battles screenshots of course. Devs visit it on regular basis. 

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If you have any screenshot that support your claim then post in Bugs & Glitches Reports.

Start of battles screenshots of course. Devs visit it on regular basis. 

Exactly HOW do you expect them to prove this? Don't be ridiculous. But the fact that so many more battles have one team dominating and single players seem to be affected worse, where as Desty has explained, matches seemed to have gone much better with a skilled group in tact.

 

You cannot prove if anyone else is in a group with anyone else, that is not a feature in the score board, but may be that should be for the sake of better match-making and to get this sorted, hmm?

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Exactly HOW do you expect them to prove this? Don't be ridiculous. But the fact that so many more battles have one team dominating and single players seem to be affected worse, where as Desty has explained, matches seemed to have gone much better with a skilled group in tact.

 

You cannot prove if anyone else is in a group with anyone else, that is not a feature in the score board, but may be that should be for the sake of better match-making and to get this sorted, hmm?

Well that is a good question. "The fact is", but I have no proof or way to prove it, ok  :rolleyes:  Let's just complain based on perception (it seems) rather than facts.

Not every group are pros or reliable clans. Suggestion would be to ask Devs to show groups in a way or another, and posting screenshot will help you. If you don't post screenshot as example of your problem, then you will only have rumours and perception.

TO wants pro and noobs to play in random battles, so one time you will be with pros (and you will be bottom) another time you will be with noobs and you will look like a pro. 

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Well that is a good question. "The fact is", but I have no proof or way to prove it, ok  :rolleyes:  Let's just complain based on perception (it seems) rather than facts.

Not every group are pros or reliable clans. Suggestion would be to ask Devs to show groups in a way or another, and posting screenshot will help you. If you don't post screenshot as example of your problem, then you will only have rumours and perception.

TO wants pro and noobs to play in random battles, so one time you will be with pros (and you will be bottom) another time you will be with noobs and you will look like a pro. 

1) Multiple people have exclaimed this has happened to them.

2) There has been an explanation presented here that makes good sense. Might not be the main or the only issue, but we can tell there is something wrong here.

3) Do you even play this game anymore? Most of the time, if you are alone, your team will be losing. Not a 1/3 chance, not a 1/4 chance, more like a 1/9 chance. And this keeps happening.

 

Yes, you need screenshots to present evidence. But you would think that common sense also applies? It's like someone asking for screenshots from AG's profits to justify their new method of making extra profit. I.e. it's dumb to do that.

 

Don't you think it would be just easier for you to test this yourself RIGHT NOW? Join quick-battle, alone, 10 - 20 times or so. Count how many times your team is instantly dominated VS how many times your team dominates VS the match is relatively even. Do you not think that would be the more common sense thing to do than to ask for a screenshot for something that takes less time to test yourself than to prove?

 

This would require video proof to be solid proof. And uploading a video that is like 10 - 15 minutes long takes forever.

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1) Multiple people have exclaimed this has happened to them.

2) There has been an explanation presented here that makes good sense. Might not be the main or the only issue, but we can tell there is something wrong here.

3) Do you even play this game anymore? Most of the time, if you are alone, your team will be losing. Not a 1/3 chance, not a 1/4 chance, more like a 1/9 chance. And this keeps happening.

 

Yes, you need screenshots to present evidence. But you would think that common sense also applies? It's like someone asking for screenshots from AG's profits to justify their new method of making extra profit. I.e. it's dumb to do that.

 

Don't you think it would be just easier for you to test this yourself RIGHT NOW? Join quick-battle, alone, 10 - 20 times or so. Count how many times your team is instantly dominated VS how many times your team dominates VS the match is relatively even. Do you not think that would be the more common sense thing to do than to ask for a screenshot for something that takes less time to test yourself than to prove?

 

This would require video proof to be solid proof. And uploading a video that is like 10 - 15 minutes long takes forever.

 

 

It should definitely be more transparent if a group is in the battle.  Some kind of tag - like clans have.

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1) Multiple people have exclaimed this has happened to them.

2) There has been an explanation presented here that makes good sense. Might not be the main or the only issue, but we can tell there is something wrong here.

3) Do you even play this game anymore? Most of the time, if you are alone, your team will be losing. Not a 1/3 chance, not a 1/4 chance, more like a 1/9 chance. And this keeps happening.

 

Yes, you need screenshots to present evidence. But you would think that common sense also applies? It's like someone asking for screenshots from AG's profits to justify their new method of making extra profit. I.e. it's dumb to do that.

 

Don't you think it would be just easier for you to test this yourself RIGHT NOW? Join quick-battle, alone, 10 - 20 times or so. Count how many times your team is instantly dominated VS how many times your team dominates VS the match is relatively even. Do you not think that would be the more common sense thing to do than to ask for a screenshot for something that takes less time to test yourself than to prove?

 

This would require video proof to be solid proof. And uploading a video that is like 10 - 15 minutes long takes forever.

Multiple as like 5? That's the number I counted, they just post it over an over (and half of them don't play the game that often). But I guess that's enough.

What is the wrong thing you saw? Team dominating another team? Like it never happened before or need a group to achieve that.

Yes, I play the game everyday, and I don't see group versus random. I see some players that have a team spirit, and other that don't have it. You can see the same behaviour in Pro.

I tested groups feature and yes I was against other groups.

 

Video would be better of course, but let's start with pic.

You might be onto something, but as I said, to plea your case you need to document it. Take a screenshots and let it discuss about it. Discussing on picture would get more people to your cause/request for transparency.

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Mods keep trying to deny this - but I really don't believe them. 

 

If a groups clicks battle and another group is not available they will start the battle versus singles.  No way they make them wait 3-5 minutes.

 

They are denying this? Really?

 

Due to expanding match types and lack online players, TO can not make always group vs group battles. Often you can notice, if you are playing solo against coordinated clan group(2-3) when your team can barely drive and playing TDM in CTF mode. I don't think this can be practically proven with any kind of video or image, but people who do play both group and solo, can feel it and notice it. Can't prove love with image, doesn't mean anyone could deny it.

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Mods keep trying to deny this - but I really don't believe them. 

 

If a groups clicks battle and another group is not available they will start the battle versus singles.  No way they make them wait 3-5 minutes.

but waiting 3-5 minutes is exactly what regularly happens when i use battle groups..

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Easy solution, just play DM battles or Juggernaut battles.

Yep, that's what I do now. This account barely do team battle and I can change missions until it give me something good (not the reward but the mission itself).

 

I had experienced a worst matchmaking battle before. One time I was playing Sandal TDM, blue team stormed into our bases and spawn killed us all. At the end my team lost by 9-100. That defeat is so catastrophic that now I stay away from team battle.

 

Nowadays, I only do DM/JGR. In JGR however, I don't kill the Juggernaut, but kill other tanks.

 

In my WO2 account, I only do team battle for missions. Otherwise, hang out at solo mode.

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They are denying this? Really?

 

Due to expanding match types and lack online players, TO can not make always group vs group battles. Often you can notice, if you are playing solo against coordinated clan group(2-3) when your team can barely drive and playing TDM in CTF mode. I don't think this can be practically proven with any kind of video or image, but people who do play both group and solo, can feel it and notice it. Can't prove love with image, doesn't mean anyone could deny it.

Groups should have a tag - replace the Clan tag with a group tag.  Clan tag in MM means nothing.

 

Would make it transparent so we can actually see what is happening.

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Just don't play team battles then.

DM gets boring fast.   16 players on some of those maps is just silly. 

 

And... they widen the rank brackets on DM.  Colonel --> Gismo.    :blink:     Good luck with those "Finish top-3 missions".

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DM gets boring fast.   16 players on some of those maps is just silly. 

 

And... they widen the rank brackets on DM.  Colonel --> Gismo.    :blink:     Good luck with those "Finish top-3 missions".

Colonels sometimes play DMs with Legends. I don't think I've seen Lieutenant Colonels with Legends though. 

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