April Challenge — Thunder Prime Skin

[GorgoBlesk 831]

In the last 2 challenges, there was always an easy shot effect for non-buyers. Once at tier 1, once at tier 4. Now there are no shot effects in silver tier. I hoped to finally get a Rail shot effect but NOPE.

 

By the way, I got a nice 35% garage discount and I bought M2 Viking, probably going to use it with Freeze.

[kheddar 21]

 RIP non buyers

[musashibattleship 17]

 I'm going off on a limb here but I think they decreased the rewards because of how much days of premium non-buyers or casuals may get during the April Fools' Celebrations' gold boxes. I got 3 days of premium from one this morning but I don't see enough motivation to really go through this challenge a relaxed person. 

The Congo Spider is right, Tanki might be doing this because they were afraid of non-buyers who don't normally do challenges getting days of premium and blazing through them while tanki wouldn't earn anything (because the golds give away free premium so you don't have to buy it with real money). If tanki brings the challenge back to what it was like before will be proof that they did this only so people can't get a lot of free stuff.

[Groonter 89]

Challenge Rewards

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Tier	Stars to tier	Total Stars	Standard Prizes	Additional Prizes with Battle Pass
1	10	10	3000	Paint "Microbiology"
2	11	21	10	20
3	12	33	30	50
4	13	46	30	50
5	14	60	30	50
6	15	75	30	50
7	16	91	30	50
8	17	108	3000	1 day of
9	18	126	10	5000
10	19	145	1	3
11	20	165	Paint "Cherry"	Paint "Ancient Dragon"
12	21	186	30	20
13	22	208	30	100
14	23	231	30	7000
15	24	255	1	3
16	25	280	30	50
17	26	306	Paint "Mary"	Black Effect
18	27	333	3000	50
19	28	361	10	1 day of
20	29	390	1	3
21	30	420	30	100
22	31	451	30	Paint "Far North"
23	32	483	30	50
24	33	516	30	7000
25	34	550	1	3
26	36	586	30	15000
27	37	623	3000	50
28	38	661	Paint "Inferno"	Blood Effect
29	39	700	10	50
30	40	740	1	3
31	41	781	30	1 day of
32	42	823	30	5
33	43	866	30	100
34	44	910	Paint "Spinner"	Paint "Electrohive"
35	45	955	1	3
36	46	1001	30	15000
37	47	1048	Paint "Mint"	Toxic Effect
38	48	1096	3000	5000
39	49	1145	10	100
40	50	1195	2	5
41	51	1246	30	20
42	52	1298	30	50
43	53	1351	Paint "Tic-Tac-Toe"	Paint "Diamond"
44	54	1405	30	5
45	55	1460	3	6
46	56	1516	-	100
47	57	1573	-	5000
48	58	1631	-	7000
49	59	1690	-	15000
50	60	1750	Thunder XT	Thunder Prime Skin

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Prizes in total

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Item	Standard Prizes	Battle Pass	In Total
	15,000	81,000	96,000
	11	29	40
	50	460	510
	150	500	650
	150	500	650
	120	500	620
	120	500	620
	90	250	340
	-	10	10
	-	3 days	3 days
Paints	6	5	11
Shot Effects	-	3	3
Skins	1	1	2

Meanwhile in the Official Wiki ...

 

 

HAHAHAHA... :D :D :D

Edited April 3, 2019 by Groonter

[lssimo 1,559]

Non buyers don't get rewards from Silver Tier 46-49, but buyers don't get them either.

 

That makes the Skins more valuable because fewer players will want to complete the challenge unless they want the Skin, which is a cosmetic.

 

The big issue for non buyers is the hard to complete missions, and not the challenges or their rewards.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Challenges have become the worst update in tanki's history, they make battles more unbalanced than ever before. People are using the most OP drones or alterations they can get just to get stars faster which is an exploit. In team battles they're spawn killing/ spawn camping the weaker team, which is an exploit. They're also using groups to enter battles with the most effective combos they can find, which is an exploit.

 

Besides, these challenges only bring back overachievers as I call them temporarily and then they go back into hiding leaving the game a wreck.

 

If you really want to grow your player base, you must first remove challenges.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Non buyers don't get rewards from Silver Tier 46-49, but buyers don't get them either.

 

That makes the Skins more valuable because fewer players will want to complete the challenge unless they want the Skin, which is a cosmetic.

 

The big issue for non buyers is the hard to complete missions, and not the challenges or their rewards.

It's not exactly the rewards from Challenges that are a problem - well in a way they are...  The buyers will get higher in the tiers and also get the other (higher) level of rewards - making the income gap even larger.

 

But it's the effect on gameplay.  Do you not honestly not see a difference in how battles are fought now as players often struggle to get more stars?

The game-play is more selfish and less team-based.  The team-based aspect has been in decline for some time - but Challenges just makes it so much worse.

[Flexoo 6,980]

I am not sure if it was suggested here, but if the development will continue to cut the prizes for silver tier at least do not make the players work through 4 empty steps and award the top prize on the 46th step. I believe this will be at least a bit more fair now that some rewards have been moved to the gold tier which requires real money investment.

[lssimo 1,559]

It's not exactly the rewards from Challenges that are a problem - well in a way they are... The buyers will get higher in the tiers and also get the other (higher) level of rewards - making the income gap even larger.

 

But it's the effect on gameplay. Do you not honestly not see a difference in how battles are fought now as players often struggle to get more stars?

The game-play is more selfish and less team-based. The team-based aspect has been in decline for some time - but Challenges just makes it so much worse.

With the exception of Legends, buyers and non buyers that play a lot to complete a lot of tiers are negatively affecting their accounts, because they rank up too fast and the income they get will not make them as strong as players that just do missions and rank up slower in the new ranks they end up. In other words they are weakening their accounts.

 

With Challenges Tanki is making players spend some money (Battle Passes and Premium) and making many play a lot, even buyers are playing a lot. They aren't only spending some money, they are also spending time, and time is valuable too.

 

If you have a non Legend account just do your missions and don't worry about Challenges. I play enough to save some crystals for coming discount days, and to play more I have an alt for missions and PRO battles. Yes, PRO battles instead of Tiers.

 

So, for me and players like me Challenges is good because it's making other players weak.

 

My big issue is the cheaters that try to not rank up at all while catching golds and even doing missions. Look at the Golds ranking page and see that many low ranks have caught many golds while earning very little EXP, they end up with even better garage than many buyers, I think. They aren't worried about Challenges for a reason.

Edited April 4, 2019 by lssimo

[Legacy 754]

How do I know how many stars I need to complete a specific tier? like how many stars till tier 40?

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

How do I know how many stars I need to complete a specific tier? like how many stars till tier 40?

https://ru.tankiwiki.com/Челленджи

 

yes, it is in russian because EN editors still haven't done it

no, i myself also do not understand how the EN editors can still keep their jobs despite this

Edited April 6, 2019 by ZloyDanuJI

[Legacy 754]

https://ru.tankiwiki.com/Челленджи

 

yes, it is in russian because EN editors still haven't done it

no, i myself also do not understand how the EN editors can still keep their jobs despite this

Thanks!

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

https://ru.tankiwiki.com/Челленджи

 

yes, it is in russian because EN editors still haven't done it

no, i myself also do not understand how the EN editors can still keep their jobs despite this

I asked them and they said they would have it up by yesterday night. It still isn't here. Maybe they had a setback or something. 

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

I asked them and they said they would have it up by yesterday night. It still isn't here. Maybe they had a setback or something. 

yeah sure.. they have a "setback" everytime they got something to do  ;)

[ALEX22THEBEST 789]

Done 1750+ stars, was very easy, thanks Tanki for Challenge!

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

 

 

With the exception of Legends, buyers and non buyers that play a lot to complete a lot of tiers are negatively affecting their accounts, because they rank up too fast and the income they get will not make them as strong as players that just do missions and rank up slower in the new ranks they end up. In other words they are weakening their accounts.

 

With Challenges Tanki is making players spend some money (Battle Passes and Premium) and making many play a lot, even buyers are playing a lot. They aren't only spending some money, they are also spending time, and time is valuable too.

 

If you have a non Legend account just do your missions and don't worry about Challenges. I play enough to save some crystals for coming discount days, and to play more I have an alt for missions and PRO battles. Yes, PRO battles instead of Tiers.

 

So, for me and players like me Challenges is good because it's making other players weak.

 

My big issue is the cheaters that try to not rank up at all while catching golds and even doing missions. Look at the Golds ranking page and see that many low ranks have caught many golds while earning very little EXP, they end up with even better garage than many buyers, I think. They aren't worried about Challenges for a reason.

 

 

Tankers who play a lot might rank up faster, but since they altered the exp per battle, we rank up slower overall.

Players mid-range to upper levels will not rank up too fast - it now takes quite a while for each higher rank.

 

This is how Challenges directly affect the quality of battles - players now don't care about the outcome.

Assault, RGBY, CTF... doesn't matter.  70% of the tankers are playing TDM.  All they care about is 1) threshold and 2) getting 3/6 stars.

If they are going to die and re-spawn a bunch of times - why try to cap a flag?  Just make kills.

Seen this as teams lose 5-0 - because not one player tried to cap a flag.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Tankers who play a lot might rank up faster, but since they altered the exp per battle, we rank up slower overall.

Players mid-range to upper levels will not rank up too fast - it now takes quite a while for each higher rank.

 

This is how Challenges directly affect the quality of battles - players now don't care about the outcome.

Assault, RGBY, CTF... doesn't matter.  70% of the tankers are playing TDM.  All they care about is 1) threshold and 2) getting 3/6 stars.

If they are going to die and re-spawn a bunch of times - why try to cap a flag?  Just make kills.

Seen this as teams lose 5-0 - because not one player tried to cap a flag.

 

This is why challenges should at least get its own MM button.

[Acrid 36]

it's just me or thunder prime look like thunder in Tanki X

[sezze100 416]

Tankers who play a lot might rank up faster, but since they altered the exp per battle, we rank up slower overall.

Players mid-range to upper levels will not rank up too fast - it now takes quite a while for each higher rank.

 

This is how Challenges directly affect the quality of battles - players now don't care about the outcome.

Assault, RGBY, CTF... doesn't matter.  70% of the tankers are playing TDM.  All they care about is 1) threshold and 2) getting 3/6 stars.

If they are going to die and re-spawn a bunch of times - why try to cap a flag?  Just make kills.

Seen this as teams lose 5-0 - because not one player tried to cap a flag.

100% true and its even worse with the golds dropping now . I can understand it a bit , as going for the challenge and the gold , then this result only counts , but you ruin the gameplay doing that . Others who do want to play the game , and go for a flag need the support of their teammates to bring it home ( and its not funny for them when under fire  being killed and seeing 2 teammates not saving that flag but just doing their own thing ) .

[Hate 5,582]

I am not sure if it was suggested here, but if the development will continue to cut the prizes for silver tier at least do not make the players work through 4 empty steps and award the top prize on the 46th step. I believe this will be at least a bit more fair now that some rewards have been moved to the gold tier which requires real money investment.

Yep, that is one way to do it indeed.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

i agree with @muffingirl362 !

 

Tanki keep pushing the free players into the corner hoping that someday we will buy too, but what tanki didn't know is that we "CAN'T" buy no matter what !!

 

i live in the THIRD world for god sake, my father work for +12 hours a day earning only 20$ a day, if i asked him to pay for my battle pass he will kick me out of the house, he barely pay for my internet !!!  :(

 

This is why i don't play anymore despite my love for this game.

how the hell do you guys have a house  then? Internet is way cheaper than everything else to live, and if you don't play anymore, WHY BOTHER READING THIS FORUM LOL

it's just me or thunder prime look like thunder in Tanki X

yes it does

 

https://ru.tankiwiki.com/Челленджи

 

yes, it is in russian because EN editors still haven't done it

no, i myself also do not understand how the EN editors can still keep their jobs despite this

thanks

 

 

is it just me or Thunder Prime is way worse than XT Thunder

[lssimo 1,559]

Tankers who play a lot might rank up faster, but since they altered the exp per battle, we rank up slower overall.

Players mid-range to upper levels will not rank up too fast - it now takes quite a while for each higher rank.

 

This is how Challenges directly affect the quality of battles - players now don't care about the outcome.

Assault, RGBY, CTF... doesn't matter.  70% of the tankers are playing TDM.  All they care about is 1) threshold and 2) getting 3/6 stars.

If they are going to die and re-spawn a bunch of times - why try to cap a flag?  Just make kills.

Seen this as teams lose 5-0 - because not one player tried to cap a flag.

ALEX22THEBEST completed the Challenge. If you check his profile he gained about 87k EXP, that amount of EXP is close to the amount needed to complete the Rank of Brigadier. For a new player 87k EXP would mean reaching WO2. I think that's too much for nonbuyers, that aren't Legends, that want to have a competitive Garage, because they are getting very few mission rewards which don't compensate the rewards from a Challenge.

 

Yes, team battles played as TDM is not good, but that can be fixed by encouraging players to fight for the team, like rewarding less for kills and more for team achievements.

[wolverine848 13,097]

ALEX22THEBEST completed the Challenge. If you check his profile he gained about 87k EXP, that amount of EXP is close to the amount needed to complete the Rank of Brigadier. For a new player 87k EXP would mean reaching WO2. I think that's too much for nonbuyers, that aren't Legends, that want to have a competitive Garage, because they are getting very few mission rewards which don't compensate the rewards from a Challenge.

 

Yes, team battles played as TDM is not good, but that can be fixed by encouraging players to fight for the team, like rewarding less for kills and more for team achievements.

For a new player?   Well most of those are NOT completing the challenge.  Plus u can't compare what need to do at Legend to get enough stars versus starter levels.  Apples to Oranges.

 

Currently many team battles are played that way - as TDM.  So until they actually make a change (won't hold my breath) we have a legitimate beef.

 

You can defend Challenges all you want - won't change the fact many battles are ruined because of them.

[lssimo 1,559]

For a new player?   Well most of those are NOT completing the challenge.  Plus u can't compare what need to do at Legend to get enough stars versus starter levels.  Apples to Oranges.

 

Currently many team battles are played that way - as TDM.  So until they actually make a change (won't hold my breath) we have a legitimate beef.

 

You can defend Challenges all you want - won't change the fact many battles are ruined because of them.

I also said that to complete Brigadier you need 86k EXP so even at mid-high ranks playing Challenges does make you rank up faster.

 

Your complaint about "TDM" battles is valid, I'm just talking about other aspects.

[sezze100 416]

how the hell do you guys have a house  then? Internet is way cheaper than everything else to live, and if you don't play anymore, WHY BOTHER READING THIS FORUM LOL

 

 

Be reasonable , some players live in not the richest places in the world . Their house is more basic then you can imagine but they managed to buy a simple computer , and some internet . Those players are now a quite big community also , since the game requires low computer demands . And yes i do know what im talking about since i live for part of the year i such places . No reason to put those players down , just because they are born there and they manage to get some improvement in living quality and being able to play a internet game . Yes for them 5 or 10$ is a lot of money . They read and respond to the forum , just like everybody else , since they do like the game , and they got every right to do so .