What Is Your Opinion About the Current State of Tanki Online?

[Excited 78]

Well, the state as in how the game is progressing in terms of popularity or the state of the quality updates ? The updates seem bad, but with the new currency shards, it is a bit easier for those newer players and a bit of less buying, in terms of popularity tanki seems very bad. Tanki either manages to get new players to play the game with the new website after they start advertising or they don't.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

5 hours ago, Excited said:

Well, the state as in how the game is progressing in terms of popularity or the state of the quality updates ? The updates seem bad, but with the new currency shards, it is a bit easier for those newer players and a bit of less buying, in terms of popularity tanki seems very bad. Tanki either manages to get new players to play the game with the new website after they start advertising or they don't.

Let's just hope Tanki will promise to get better from here and get through 2021. The update that rolled today was one of the best we had in months or maybe year.

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Not particularly thrilled with the update.

• Introduction of projectile and reduction of critical hit rate constitute an unnecessary nerf to Smoky, which is strange given that turrets which are much more deserving of a nerf (Gauss) have remained untouched.
• New Smoky augments are OP and will be infuriating to fight against, just like Gauss EMP.
• The HD skin looks atrocious.
• Expansion of players in battle to 12v12 on "large" maps (which are really closer to being medium-sized than large) is a terrible change. With many players strategy goes out the window, chaos abounds, and game performance takes a hit.

Shards and 6v6 on smaller maps are positive changes though.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

3 hours ago, ThirdOnion said:

Not particularly thrilled with the update.

• Introduction of projectile and reduction of critical hit rate constitute an unnecessary nerf to Smoky, which is strange given that turrets which are much more deserving of a nerf (Gauss) have remained untouched.
• New Smoky augments are OP and will be infuriating to fight against, just like Gauss EMP.
• The HD skin looks atrocious.
• Expansion of players in battle to 12v12 on "large" maps (which are really closer to being medium-sized than large) is a terrible change. With many players strategy goes out the window, chaos abounds, and game performance takes a hit.

Shards and 6v6 on smaller maps are positive changes though.

I thought Smoky HD was alright. 

Also, I don't find Smoky's Augments annoying at all. I find them pretty bad. Maybe because of Immunities?

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

1 hour ago, yellowghetto said:

Also, I don't find Smoky's Augments annoying at all. I find them pretty bad. Maybe because of Immunities?

EMP Rounds is basically EMP Salvo 2.0. Paralyzing rounds are also ridiculous; they allow stunning an enemy at range, which is a completely new ability (Hunter and Hopper can only stun enemies at short range). While I don't consider Sorted Ammunition to be OP, it can be used quite effectively by good players.

Edited January 30, 2021 by ThirdOnion

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

2 minutes ago, ThirdOnion said:

• New Smoky augments are OP and will be infuriating to fight against, just like Gauss EMP

Honestly, the only Smoky augment (or Alteration as I call them) that is "strong" is EMP Rounds. It inflicts five seconds of EMP in exchange for a small 15% critical damage decrease, which is...kinda overpowered, considering once you have removed the enemy's supplies, you will do 100% higher damage than normal. Meaning, the alt will boost your damage by 85%.

Unlike Gauss' EMP Salvo however, Smoky's EMP Rounds takes much longer to inflict, as at Mk7+. only 20% of your shots will inflict the EMP effect. Additionally, unlike Gauss' EMP Salvo, Smoky's EMP Rounds does not inflict EMP to a whole team at once, just to the person you shoot at. 

Otherwise.....the rest of the new Augments/Alterations are pretty balanced in my opinion.

• Paralyzing Rounds reduces critical damage AND critical chance by a whopping 50%!
  • I'm assuming the stun duration will be 3 seconds, to be on par with the stuns received from Hunter and Hopper.
  • Overall, this is balanced. This alt greatly decreases damage output....but in exchange, it's better off for defending flags and balls.
• Rubberized Rounds allows the shot to ricochet two times, and at a much higher angle than normal, but decreases projectile speed.
  • Most of the time, you won't even need to ricochet your shots, so this alteration is only good based on which map you are on.
  • Overall, this is balanced. On maps like Massacre, this alt will hinder you, but on maps like Industrial Zone, it may provide some benefits, particularly in the tunnels and buildings.
• Explosive Rounds will probably cause you to do self-damage.
  • Since explosives in Tanki have a tendency of doing self-damage, I believe this alt will do so too. It's balanced cause you can damage groups of enemies at once....but if you get too close, you may hurt yourself.
  • Additionally, it's splash radius isn't as big as Thunder's....so most of the time, it won't be a big help, especially in 1v1 battles.
• Sorted Ammunition is....balanced.
  • Overall, it increases your critical chance to 25%, which is 25% higher than a normal Mk7+ Smoky.
  • However......you must fire off 4 shots after respawning in order to have a critical shot ready. With a normal Smoky, there's a chance you can fire just 1 hit and you'll instantly get a critical hit with your second shot.
  • Basically, this alteration is great when you survive for long periods of time, but if your team is being spawn-killed/team-wiped, you're better off using regular Smoky as it has an increased chance of firing off a critical hit right after respawning.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

27 minutes ago, ThirdOnion said:

EMP Rounds is basically EMP Salvo 2.0. Paralyzing rounds are also ridiculous; they allow stunning an enemy at range, which is a completely new ability (Hunter and Hopper can only stun enemies at short range). While I don't consider Sorted Ammunition to be OP, it can be used quite effectively by good players.

Dude, unlike Electromagnetic Salvo, an EMP shot from Smoky is unpredictable.

Stun Immunities exist,

Um Paralyzing Rounds OP? Single target pea-shooter?

 

Spoiler

Do you even have EMP Rounds? 

 

Edited January 30, 2021 by yellowghetto

[E_polypterus 2,374]

, so many augments this game is getting even more complicated, even more provided they’re not well balanced...

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

1 hour ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

 

• Paralyzing Rounds reduces critical damage AND critical chance by a whopping 50%!
  • I'm assuming the stun duration will be 3 seconds, to be on par with the stuns received from Hunter and Hopper.
  • Overall, this is balanced. This alt greatly decreases damage output....but in exchange, it's better off for defending flags and balls.

Being able to stun a tank on the other side of the map is not balanced by any stretch of the imagination. Currently only Hunter and Hopper can stun tanks, and even then only at short ranges and only after charging their ODs for a while. Damage doesn't matter when facing enemies with Defender and 50% protections; at any rate it's not an augment intended to increase damage output. A PR Smoky can simply focus a flag carrier and will eventually be guaranteed to get a stun. A team with multiple PR Smokies in CTF/RGB/ASL would be a nightmare.

1 hour ago, yellowghetto said:

Dude, unlike Electromagnetic Salvo, an EMP shot from Smoky is unpredictable.

Stun Immunities exist,

After playing a while with Smoky you get a feel for how often crits happen and you can often strategically choose which targets will receive a critical hit. EMP Rounds is not as OP as EMP Salvo but still completely unbalanced.

Just because immunities exist does not mean many players have them. Is EMP Salvo balanced just because EMP Immunity exists? Is Incendiary Band balanced just because Heat Immunity exists? Is AP Shaft balanced just because AP Immunity exists?

[Tanker-Arthur 2,971]

Just now, ThirdOnion said:

Being able to stun a tank on the other side of the map is not balanced by any stretch of the imagination. Currently only Hunter and Hopper can stun tanks, and even then only at short ranges and only after charging their ODs for a while. Damage doesn't matter when facing enemies with Defender and 50% protections; at any rate it's not an augment intended to increase damage output. A PR Smoky can simply focus a flag carrier and will eventually be guaranteed to get a stun.

The thing is....with the reduced critical rate, a Mk7+ Smoky would only stun enemies in 1 out of 10 shots. That is twice as low as Smoky's Cryo Rounds alt, which can insanely slow down your speed in 1 out of 5 shots. I honestly believe Paralyzing Rounds and Cryo Rounds are alterations of each other. Cryo Rounds offers better chances of a slowing effect, whether it be used defensively or to keep enemies in the line of fire, while Paralyzing Rounds is far more rare and lower damaging, but the debuff effect is more intense to compensate.

Additionally, at longer ranges, sure, it is annoying to be suddenly stunned....
However the enemy Smoky who did it will most likely do relatively low damage to you. If you have double armor active, the critical hits would only do 200 or 400 damage per shot. Also, when you're stunned, you can still use Supplies. It's not as intensely hindering as Hunter's Overdrive.

And, unlike Hunter's and Hopper's overdrive, the alteration's stunning effect only applies to one enemy at a time. It can't stun-wipe a whole group of enemies.

Just now, ThirdOnion said:

A team with multiple PR Smokies in CTF/RGB/ASL would be a nightmare.

Honestly, I doubt Paralyzing Rounds will become one of the most popular Smoky alterations. Of course, if it's the only Ultra Container augment/alteration that the player got for Smoky, of course they will use it...

But from the looks of it, people who managed to get their hands on multiple Smoky Alterations will most likely use Autocannon or EMP Rounds (if they obtain it).
Autocannon because it's easier to use and rapid fire is pretty satisfying (and cause it was given out very recently in a challenge so literally around one-fifth of all active F2P players have it), and EMP Rounds cause the EMP effect is just broken. 

[Akame 4,578]

14 minutes ago, E_polypterus said:

, so many augments this game is getting even more complicated, even more provided they’re not well balanced...

they won't ever be balanced, ever, it's come, it'll bring the wrath, and there is no calm at the end of this storm unfortunately

 

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

11 hours ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

The thing is....with the reduced critical rate, a Mk7+ Smoky would only stun enemies in 1 out of 10 shots.

This is only in the worst case scenario, not the average case.

11 hours ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

I honestly believe Paralyzing Rounds and Cryo Rounds are alterations of each other. Cryo Rounds offers better chances of a slowing effect, whether it be used defensively or to keep enemies in the line of fire, while Paralyzing Rounds is far more rare and lower damaging, but the debuff effect is more intense to compensate.

CR, while probably the best Smoky augment to use in CTF/RGB/ASL, is balanced because it does not cause the enemy to drop the flag/ball, unlike PR.

11 hours ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

However the enemy Smoky who did it will most likely do relatively low damage to you. If you have double armor active, the critical hits would only do 200 or 400 damage per shot. Also, when you're stunned, you can still use Supplies. It's not as intensely hindering as Hunter's Overdrive.

PR is not an offensive augment. It doesn't matter if the tank survives after being hit or not; the important thing is that it drops a flag/ball after being hit which allows for a return.

11 hours ago, Tanker-Arthur said:

And, unlike Hunter's and Hopper's overdrive, the alteration's stunning effect only applies to one enemy at a time. It can't stun-wipe a whole group of enemies.

It doesn't need to be able to stun multiple enemies, just the flag/ball carrier. That's my problem with it. Experienced Smoky players can control their crits to a certain extent. You can "charge" your crit by hitting a few standard shots on random enemies, after which all you have to do is hit the flag/ball carrier a few times, get a stun, and return the flag/take the ball. It doesn't even matter if the flag/ball carrier has Defender and/or a 50% module because you don't have to kill them.

Edited January 30, 2021 by ThirdOnion

[alkyng 3,080]

Noobs are too much nowadays, I wonder how someone could reach Legend with this incredible level of noobness. Guys I couldn't believe that there is someone with this disgusting playing skills.

I wonder how those players reached legends, or the Twins who didn't turn the turret and continuously shooting you without stopping, I remember some days I was putting a rock or a something in my Spacebar, but that was before WO1.

But this is Tanki fault, x3 xp boosts and premium account and even some times with XP boosts that buff the x3 to x6. These allows those players to reach Legend really fast, and maybe even in less than 150hrs. For sure 150hrs is too small amount of time.

And for sure the biggest thing, that the game isn't a competitive anymore No need of skills. MM and ODs terminated the meaning of skills, above of that for sure the OPs for buyers like Drones and EMP Gauss, all of those haven't leave for us any chance of playing with any level of skills. Matchmaking battles are just a direct fighting with noobs without any kind of skills, face to face you both staying infront of each other and spamming the Spacebar till one of you dies. So no need of skills, and for sure you see how this kind of players is really popular in MM battles whatever mode they playe, they play like DM, with no capturing flags/balls or anything. Playing in CTF like if they play in DM, and they easily flip their teammates unintentionally.

When I see some of my teammates jumped over me while caring the flag, I stop my tank some time to let him to walk and complete their way, because any move by me will flip him. For sure this term doesn't exist with noobs.

But if the game were a competitive for them, and they saw themselves losing all the time with their low level of skills (In legend without turning the turret or the Camera angle), and if they saw if their team lose the battle they will get a small amount of crystals. Then they will think about changing their playing level and try to improve it.

But nowadays even the loser team get a very considerable reward, 3 stars with high crystals and finishing their missions also. Maybe sometimes passed the number of crystals in the winner team. I remember before a couple of years, the loser team get a small amount of rewards and if the lose was with 0 flags, then no one will get any reward. If this happened nowadays, then every player will try hardly to help their team.

Edit: Oh I forgot to mention also the Hovering hulls (like Ares) that literally teach the noobs to be more noobs. I assume that Tanki always teaches the players to be more noobs. You see how Auto SelfDestruction is enabled by default even in Legend ranks, Auto-SD alone is a horrible, but the worse it's enabled by default

Sorry for the length, I tried many times to delete many paragraphs as I can.

Edited January 31, 2021 by asem.harbi
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[yellowghetto 3,206]

I just want to say.

Whoever gave positive feedback during 16 vs 16, or people who thought 12 v 12 was good is a 

9 v 9 or 10 v 10 should be max.

Battles take way longer to load and is polluting the Quick Battle option. That, I do not like at all.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

5 hours ago, asem.harbi said:

Noobs are too much nowadays, I wonder how someone could reach Legend with this incredible level of noobness. Guys I couldn't believe that there is someone with this disgusting playing skills.

I wonder how those players reached legends, or the Twins who didn't turn the turret and continuously shooting you without stopping, I remember some days I was putting a rock or a something in my Spacebar, but that was before WO1.

But this is Tanki fault, x3 xp boosts and premium account and even some times with XP boosts that buff the x3 to x6. These allows those players to reach Legend really fast, and maybe even in less than 150hrs. For sure 150hrs is too small amount of time.

And for sure the biggest thing, that the game isn't a competitive anymore No need of skills. MM and ODs terminated the meaning of skills, above of that for sure the OPs for buyers like Drones and EMP Gauss, all of those haven't leave for us any chance of playing with any level of skills. Matchmaking battles are just a direct fighting with noobs without any kind of skills, face to face you both staying infront of each other and spamming the Spacebar till one of you dies. So no need of skills, and for sure you see how this kind of players is really popular in MM battles whatever mode they playe, they play like DM, with no capturing flags/balls or anything. Playing in CTF like if they play in DM, and they easily flip their teammates unintentionally.

When I see some of my teammates jumped over me while caring the flag, I stop my tank some time to let him to walk and complete their way, because any move by me will flip him. For sure this term doesn't exist with noobs.

But if the game were a competitive for them, and they saw themselves losing all the time with their low level of skills (In legend without turning the turret or the Camera angle), and if they saw if their team lose the battle they will get a small amount of crystals. Then they will think about changing their playing level and try to improve it.

But nowadays even the loser team get a very considerable reward, 3 stars with high crystals and finishing their missions also. Maybe sometimes passed the number of crystals in the winner team. I remember before a couple of years, the loser team get a small amount of rewards and if the lose was with 0 flags, then no one will get any reward. If this happened nowadays, then every player will try hardly to help their team.

Edit: Oh I forgot to mention also the Hovering hulls (like Ares) that literally teach the noobs to be more noobs. I assume that Tanki always teaches the players to be more noobs. You see how Auto SelfDestruction is enabled by default even in Legend ranks, Auto-SD alone is a horrible, but the worse it's enabled by default

Sorry for the length, I tried many times to delete many paragraphs as I can.

NOW YOU NOTICE? 

[yellowghetto 3,206]

I want to add that Alexandrovsk RGB is SO unfair for the team with the walls, and the houses near a cliff. Their goal is completely open and RIGHT IN FRONT of a drop zone! The goal should be right behind that gray wall, or the little platform next to it.

[Moisthero 254]

On 12/29/2020 at 8:42 AM, Noslide said:

We should add aeroplanes to tanki online! As seen with hoppers (Developers actually named it that way!) they bring a nice new touch to a tank battle. See, in 2013 believe it or not there were already hoppers in the game. They were seen as cheaters that time, and they should all be unbanned now and given free hoppers for engineering such a great tank! No one can hit them, they dominated CTF in the old day, such as today!

Also we should make it that with 999,99€ worth of tankcoins you could get immunity from all guns! Yes, because this game is pay to win, it only makes sense that you can cheat in tanki, but only if you pay enough to do so! Then it's not magically cheating!

Also Infantry, satellite power ups, killstreaks, more battle pass tiers, battle royale for 100 tanks might be a good idea. Just something that doesn't have a place in a tank game overall!

Could you atleast consider these great improvements? There is that few % of players that will pay BIG about unfair advantages! Some money right! Also let's remaster all the old community favorite maps. Silence was great, but now it's even better! It doesn't even look original one bit!

Thank you for these great improvements! Seriously, when does the ''Teleporter'' become avaivable? You could teleport from flag to flag! Just like flying with a hopper and spamming shift, that also would make everyone happy! Just make it from containers only, so that only few people can access it and it's fair!

 

Seriously what are you doing lmao!

 

 

My thoughts exactly. Hopper should be banned from regular play. Have games just for hoppers. With other tanks they have an advantage. If used correctly a hopper can swoop in for a flag and transport it back to base in around 5 seconds (in a large arena). I recently played a game where out of 12 enemy, 8 were hopers. He had one or two. The game took about 2 min. anf the result was 5:0. How is this a good game now, how can this bring fun to no-hopper owners?

We live in a society where the youngest generation needs not to make any hard choices, learns only that to win you need to pay, not work. A light tank gets blown up easily, but it is fast so it can run with the flag. A cost for such a choice. Well, now let's give it weight, augmented armour - it will look like a light tank, but it will not be any more... An so with the hopper - cant manage getting the flags? -  here is an official cheat tank.

Tanki has announce new Smokey augments - more splash effect, more bouncy projectiles - so you don't have the skill? That's OK, you don't have to learn - here is a tank that does it all for you...

There are counltess errors in the game, bugs - fix that instead of adding new crap to the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An yes, I am shouting, because you stopped listening at all.

 

 

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

3 hours ago, Moisthero said:

We live in a society where the youngest generation needs not to make any hard choices, learns only that to win you need to pay, not work.

Don't you need to work in order to be able to pay?

[thunderhunter123 741]

3 hours ago, Moisthero said:

Hopper should be banned from regular play

If you want to be less annoyed with Hoppers, you can try a different approach when facing them:

• They only require 3 shots to destroy. You can use Double Damage and clear the field, before they have time to use their Overdrives. Then you can resume your objective in the battle.
• You can also use an Augment to help with one of Hopper's Overdrive effects.

 

There's always some way to improve your gameplay and experience, and to use your different skills to help you succeed in every situation.

You have my luck!

[Maf 32,300]

7 hours ago, Moisthero said:

If used correctly a hopper can swoop in for a flag and transport it back to base in around 5 seconds (in a large arena)

Let's not confuse Hoppers with Crisis drone users. Hopper is OP, but it can be made more reasonable with a rather simple nerf of its OD. Crisis only seems OP from a distance, but it's quite easy to deal with, and other drones like Lifeguard and Defender are usually more of a threat.

Now, Hopper WITH Crisis is definitely an overpowered combo, though only in capture modes (CTF, RGB, ASL). I'm not sure how it should be nerfed without affecting the more balanced uses of those two items separately, but it's definitely not ok to be able to leap into the air while also stunning enemies, and then fly back to your base and cap before they can even move again.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

Bad drawing, but this is how the RGB games in Alexandrovsk go.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

Hmmm...the map didnt show up with the drawing. But if you can tell which positions these are, good for you. Circles in the middle are drop zones. The arrows point to the quickest route you should have to take to score a goal. One side has more obstacles than the other.

 

Also, what are the Devs working on right now? I hope it is the Tesla Turret. It would be shocking to see it around February or March. Also, it would be dope if they start to develop the iOS version of TO Mobile. I honestly don't know why they can't just develop them at the same time. It should be faster, easier, and cheaper to develop...

[SONIC-BOOM 326]

Noticed something for awhile now. The lower the rank you are the more XP to CRY you get. The devs want lower ranks to rank quicker in the hope you spend more cash as you reach the next ranks ever faster.

Compared my main to a couple of lower ranks, major general,and captain. The captain earns way more XP/CRY ratio than the major general rank every single time, regardless how well i do on either account.

My main has the best xp/cry ratio all the time, every time, no exception.

Another stealth move by the devs.

Anyone has a lower account try it out. Compare the ratio to your main over 10 battles, your main will always earn more CRY to XP every time. 

Unless you have very bad battles your main will always be a better ratio in favour of crystals than a lower account.

[TheCongoSpider 8,943]

35 minutes ago, SONIC-BOOM said:

Noticed something for awhile now. The lower the rank you are the more XP to CRY you get. The devs want lower ranks to rank quicker in the hope you spend more cash as you reach the next ranks ever faster.

Compared my main to a couple of lower ranks, major general,and captain. The captain earns way more XP/CRY ratio than the major general rank every single time, regardless how well i do on either account.

My main has the best xp/cry ratio all the time, every time, no exception.

Another stealth move by the devs.

Anyone has a lower account try it out. Compare the ratio to your main over 10 battles, your main will always earn more CRY to XP every time. 

Unless you have very bad battles your main will always be a better ratio in favour of crystals than a lower account.

It has always been like this. Low ranks have less crystal fund because killing lower ranks increases the fund less than killing higher ranks and overall the gameplay is slower. All ranks gain the same number of exp for actions, so obviously the lower ranks would have a worse exp to crystal ratio. 

[SONIC-BOOM 326]

Well it's about time they changed how that works, it's detrimental in a big way for the lower ranks.

There is no help at all for the lower ranks when it comes to battle funds, i still maintain that xp to rank should be increased by a factor of 3, that would give lower ranks more time to accumulate cry and have a better chance of upgrading their garage before the next rank.

The xp should be 25% less than any cry earned. 

I noticed with premium that you get a bigger % for your cry than XP, but it still needs to be less in regards to XP.

This would be a step in the right direction, at least for lower ranks up to marshal.

Come on devs, do the right thing and help out the noob ranks.

And thanks @TheCongoSpider for explaining that, when i think about it i do remember that being the case. (still needs changing though)

 

Edited February 3, 2021 by SONIC-BOOM
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