Help Me Create A New Language.

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

I have always wondered how hard it would be for one individual to create an entire language on their own. I sought out to see how far I would reach on my own. I consider it impossible right now on my own so I call upon the help of individuals in this section of the Forum. 

 

Some details about the language:

 

Word Order: SOV (Subject-Object-Verb)

 

Most prominent starting letter: R (For reference, in English, S is the letter that starts the most words). 

 

The language is currently nameless but I have decided that the name will begin with the letter R. 

 

This language was influenced by German and English and will have similarities to it. 

 

 

Here is what I have so far:

 

Determiners and their English counterparts:

 

Len - The (used for nouns pertaining to humans and animals)

 

Den - The (used for nouns pertaining to non-human things)

 

Ure - A/An 

 

 

Verbs: All regular verbs excluding Reien end with -en or -un. 

 

 

Reien - To be

 

Resanden - To find

 

Sustendun - To look for 

 

Spalen - To praise

 

Stufen - To survive/thrive

 

Veloren - To flow 

 

Telstelun - To play 

 

Tellstellun - To call (someone via telephone) 

 

Untlen - To shower/bathe

 

Laden - To do 

 

Feelen - To drive

 

Censtun - To stay

 

Crenuren - To put on/activate

 

Jebulen - To climb

 

Hacrimen - To grow/Increase in size

 

Stornledun - To sleep/rest

 

Clarnen - To time (someone or something)

 

Treamen - To dream

 

Rolun - To do

 

Partlen - To separate

 

Ubertun - To steal/rob (something of, or someone)

 

Slisounun - To kick (something)

 

 

 

Nouns + their determiners.   

 

 

(Len) Vorhai - Water 

 

(Den) Stelle - Store/Shop 

 

(Len/Den) Land - Land/Area/Place

 

(Len/Den) Conde - Country/Origin

 

(Len) Lere - Rain

 

(Den) Olorm - Life  

 

(Den) Clarn - Time

 

(Len/Den) Udern - Shadow

 

(Den) Dreal - A state of anxiety, fear and confusion

 

(Den) Skalkenskof - Rubbish/Nonsense

 

(Den) Ronson - Street/Path

 

(Len) Tuuo - Boss/Leader

 

 

 

Adjectives:

 

 

Entlandig - Huge/Vast

 

Ren - Small

 

Resalten - Long

 

Reseltan - Short

 

Tern - Skinny

 

Ausin - Fat

 

Tishcuf - Angry/Upset

 

Erimons - Happy/Joyous

 

 

 

Prepositions: 

 

 

Sil - Until

 

Em - In/In the 

 

Ras - Towards/To 

 

Hir - Below

 

Sten - Above

 

Dor - Through/Through the/Into the 

 

Cord - Against

 

Soran - Since

 

Ante - Before

 

Fenta - After

 

 

Conjunctions:

 

 

Un - and

 

Osan - Although

 

Nard - But

 

Somspellran - Unless

 

 

Interrogative Pronouns:

 

 

Pron - Who

 

Pradin - Which 

 

Ponst - What

 

Blowd - How

 

 

Prefixes:

 

 

Aza - Denoting that something is excessive

 

Rer - Denoting that something will continue forever

 

Ren - Denoting that something is miniature or small in size or quantity.

 

Uber - Denoting that something is or was performed in a manner that was less than expected. 

 

 

 

Verb Inflection Rules:

 

Simple Present Tense:

 

 

All regular verbs follow this pattern; The verbs "Tellstellun" and "Spalen" will be used to convey it. The respective endings are highlighted in light blue. 

 

Tellstellun: 

 

 

Ri tellstellu - I call

 

Ru tellstellen - You call

 

Ere/Lon/Rin tellstellon - He/She/It calls

 

Vi tellstellin - We call

 

Ve tellstellin - They call

 

 

 

Spalen:

 

 

Ri spalu - I praise

 

Ru spalun - You praise

 

Ere/Lon/Rin spalon- He/She/It praises

 

Vi spalin - We praise

 

Ve spalin - They praise

 

 

 

Irregular Verb: Reien

 

 

Ri re - I am

 

Ru ron - You are

 

Ere/Lon/Rin sah - He/She/It is

 

Vi sand - We are

 

Ve sand - We are

 

 

 

Simple Past Tense: 

 

 

 Hacrimen - to grow/increase in size

 

 

Ri hacrimut - I grew

 

Ru hacrimet - You grew

 

Ere/Lon/Rin hacrimut - He/she/it grew

 

Vi hacrimudit - We grew

 

Ve hacrimudit - They grew

 

 

Simple Future Tense:

 

 

Telstelun - To play

 

Ri treya telstelun - I will play

 

Ru treya telstelun - You will play 

 

Ere/Lon/Rin treya telstelun - He/She/It will play

 

Vi tron telstelun - We will play

 

Ve tron telstelun - They will play

 

 

Present Continuous/Participle:

 

 

To form the Present Continuous Tense or Present Participle of an -en verb, the suffix -ing must be added to stem of verb.

 

Stufen - To survive 

 

 

Ri stufing - I am surviving

 

Ru stufing - You are surviving

 

Vi stufing - We are surviving

 

 

To form the Present Continuous Tense or Present Participle of a -un verb, the suffix -ung must be added to the stem of the verb. 

 

Ri censtung - I am staying

 

Ru censtung - You are staying

 

Vi censtung -  We are staying

 

 

 

Pronouns and Determiners in different cases: 

 

 

 

Nominative                    Accusative               Dative          

 

     Len                              Leine                       Len

 

     Den                             Deine                       Den

 

     Ure                              Ure                           Ure

 

 

     Ere                              Erin                          Erin

 

     Lon                              Leren                       Leren

 

     Rin                              Rin                            Rin 

 

 

 

Genitive Case: To show the genitive case, you must add the prefix -ge to the noun being possessed and the possessor before the noun. 

 

e.g. Mark gestelle - Mark's store 

 

Eren gestelle - His store

 

Leren geconde - Her country

 

Rin gevorhai - Its water

 

 

 

 

 

Established rules/patterns in the language:

 

• For some words, opposites are made by switching the vowels within the word.

   

  e.g. Resalten - Long               Reseltan - Short 

   

   

  • The "Ru" (you) form of a regular -en verb contains the ending of the infinitive -un verb. 

   

  e.g. Spalen: Ru spalun                        Censtun: Ru censten

   

  • Present Participles acting as a noun requires the article -den

   

 

 

In progress:

 

• Plurals for Nouns 
• More verbs, nouns, adjectives, prepositions 
• Catenative verb rules
• Diacritics (optional and not intended)

 

So now that you are up-to-date with where I am, I ask of you all the help me by creating rules for grammar, syntax, vocabulary and even phonetics. 

 

If that is too complicated for you, then I would suggest creating verbs, nouns, adjectives, prepositions and conjunctions to add to the list. Let's see how far we can get.  :)  

Edited July 30, 2019 by Kill_the_Propaganda2

[Guest]

Sorry, NO!

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

Sorry, NO!

Aww.  :(

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

Patch Notes (1/6/2019):

 

Two new nouns added:

 

(Den) Clarn - Time

 

(Len/Den) Unerd - Shadow  (Len when used to refer to the shadow of an animal and Den when used to refer to the shadow of an inanimate object.

 

 

Five new (regular) verbs added: 

 

Crenuren - To put on/activate

 

Jubelun - To climb 

 

Hacrimen - To grow/Increase in size

 

Stornledun - To sleep/rest

 

Clarnen - To time (someone or something)

 

 

Two new prepositions added:

 

Cord - Against

 

Soran - Since

 

 

Four conjunctions added:

 

Un - And

 

Osan - Although

 

Nard - But

 

Somspellran - Unless

 

 

Four interrogative pronouns added:

 

Pron - Who

 

Pradin - Which 

 

Ponst - What

 

Blowd - How

Edited June 1, 2019 by Kill_the_Propaganda2

[Person_Random 4,991]

I did that last year.  Gave up midway.

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

I did that last year.  Gave up midway.

Can you give me a link to the topic? 

[BlueDragon_tamki 3,204]

Cant even understand how it's supposed to work lmao

[Person_Random 4,991]

Can you give me a link to the topic? 

Lol I did it offline on my notebook.

[Boeing_787 1,455]

Wow this is turning out as something legit.

[u812ic 1,629]

Do you have enough words to make a sensible sentence? If so, give us an example.

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

Do you have enough words to make a sensible sentence? If so, give us an example.

During the first batch of words weeks ago, to boost the production of more words, I had decided to use the rhythm of my country's national anthem to create lyrics in that language. 

 

This is what I had so far until I stopped it because I had a new influx of words:

 

 

Em deinem land vi spalin

Un len vorhai dor deine conde sand

Veloring un vostaring

sil naimen hir send gehand

 

Em deinem land vi stufin 

Un len lere sah sten lebreach 

rerdu's olorm ras gouron 

 

 

In our land we praise (it)

And the waters through the country are

Flowing and splashing

-Didn't have a proper translation-

 

In our land we thrive

And the rain from above is 

-Didn't have a translation-

 

 

I've been considering changing the language from primarily SOV to primarily SVO. But with this change, it would be acceptable to phrase your sentences with each word order but using the SOV word order would require an additional word (that has not yet been made). 

 

So let's use it in a SVO case, the words and word order are similar to English's:

 

Vi sand em Jordan gestelle - We are in Jordan's shop. 

 

Len vorhai sah veloring - The water is flowing.

 

 

I only have enough verbs and nouns to make limited indicative statements. 

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

May I ask why you are trying to create a synthetic language?  If you are interested in a truly functional language product, I know a line of research and application (like you are doing here) that could have real world impact.   I've not done much with it myself due to terminal laziness, but a think-tank kind of collaboration might be very inspiring.  PM me if you are interested.

Edited June 8, 2019 by ByeByeBye

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

May I ask why you are trying to create a synthetic language?  If you are interested in a truly functional language product, I know a line of research and application (like you are doing here) that could have real world impact.   I've not done much with it myself due to terminal laziness, but a think-tank kind of collaboration might be very inspiring.  PM me if you are interested.

I was curious as to how far and efficient I would be able to get with communication. I had planned to stop after I collected many more nouns, verbs and adjectives, established inflection rules for the past and future tense of verbs, as well as declensions for adjectives. 

 

What exactly do you mean "real world impact"? While creating the grammar, I think of it in a way where you'd be teaching it to children in a school. Is that what you mean? 

 

Sure, I'd like to see the research and application. 

[personia2 125]

How about no.

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

How about no.

Can you give me insight as to why you said no? 

[personia3 12]

Can you give me insight as to why you said no? 

Invent it yourself smh.

[Person_Random 4,991]

Invent it yourself smh.

I suppose he wants teamwork lol.  Meanwhile, I have a whole language I'm not willing to share, so yeah, I'm not helping either.  Besides, I have to practice.

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

Patch Notes (3/7/2019):

 

Four new nouns added: 

 

(Den) Dreal - A state of anxiety, fear and confusion.  

 

(Den) Skalkenskof - Rubbish/Nonsense

 

(Den) Ronson - Street/Path

 

(Len) Tuuo - Boss/Leader

 

2 new verbs added:

 

Treamen - To dream

 

Rolun - To do

 

New regular verb tense conjugation rules added (Simple Past Tense)

 

Hacrimen - to grow/increase in size

 

 

Ri hacrimut - I grew

 

Ru hacrimet - You grew

 

Ere/Lon/Rin hacrimut - He/she/it grew

 

Vi hacrimudit - We grew

 

Ve hacrimudit - They grew

 

3 new prefixes added:

 

Aza - denoting that something that is excessive

 

Rer - denoting that something will continue forever. 

 

Ren - denoting that something is miniature or small in size or quantity. 

 

2 new propositions added: 

 

Ante - Before

 

Fenta - After 

 

2 new adjectives added:

 

Tishcuf - Angry/Upset

 

Erimons - Happy/Joyous

Edited July 3, 2019 by Kill_the_Propaganda2

[Person_Random 4,991]

You should put all these posts into one changelog and you should have reserved posts like them forum mod gods.

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

You should put all these posts into one changelog and you should have reserved posts like them forum mod gods.

As in put the changes into one separate topic? 

[Adab 2,898]

Good work. :D

[maryam98 1,171]

I want to but I am absolutely unable to do something like this.

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

I want to but I am absolutely unable to do something like this.

Understandable.

[Kill_the_Propaganda2 684]

Patch Notes (30/07/2019):

 

New verb tense conjugation: Simple Future Tense 

 

Telstelun - to play

 

 

Ri treya telstelun

 

Ru treya telstelun

 

Ere/Lon/Rin treya telstelun

 

Vi tron telstelun

 

Ve tron telstelun

 

 

Present Participle:

 

• In order to form the present participle of -en verbs, the suffix -ing is added to the stem of the verb:

 

Stufen - To survive 

 

Ri stufing - I am surviving

 

Ru stufing - You are surviving

 

Vi stufing - We are surviving

 

• In order to form the present participle of -un verbs, the suffix -ung is added to the stem of the verb:

 

Censtun - To stay

 

Ri censtung - I am staying

 

Ru censtung - You are staying

 

Vi censtung -  We are staying

 

 

Present participles acting as nouns take the determiner -den

 

 

3 new regular verbs added:

 

Partlen - To separate

 

Ubertun - To steal/rob (something of, or someone)

 

Slisounun - To kick (something)

 

1 new prefix added:

 

Uber - denoting that something is or was performed in a manner that was less than expected. e.g "underperform". 

 

Degrees of Comparison for adjectives added:

 

Comparative Degree:

 

To form the comparative degree of adjectives, you add the suffix -er to the adjective:

 

Tern - skinny

 

Terner - skinnier

 

 

 

Superlative Degree:

 

To form the superlative degree of adjectives, you add the suffix -ander to the adjective:

 

Tern - skinny

 

Terner - skinnier

 

Ternander- skinniest

[TheCongoSpider 8,957]

Bumpil.