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16 minutes ago, Escapee said:

1) How would that result in more balanced battles?
2) lenght of battles is okay as it is.

3) Wait time is okay now imo.
4) and game being more simple? Game in MM is alredy simple enough.

5) Only a really stupid player can't play more than one format.

1) seriously? You're a fricking legend ranked player and you don't this? Fine I'll explain. We have this thing that we call rank brackets. The narrower they are the more balanced the battles are likely to be. However if they are wider, then the battles will likely to become unbalanced. That's why we see battles where an m2 brigadier and an m4 legend can be in one together and m3 possibly m4 brigadier in WO battles.

 

2) too Damn short to even have meaningful battles should be like 15 minutes like back in the day.

 

3) too long for some game modes.

 

4) changing from one mindset to another to another is pretty complicated for a game that's supposed to be all about simplicity.

5) very irrelevant point but whatever.

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On 12/20/2019 at 8:15 AM, sensei_tanker said:

Got back, started playing this new mode called Siege, kinda liked it cause it gives out crazy amounts of EXP due to all of the action... problem is that America's government happens to do things quicker than a team capturing a point in Siege.

 

Proposals:

1. Make the speed of the point proportional to the amount of teammates capturing it.

2. You can't drop a titan dome within the proximity of the point. 

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12 hours ago, DieselPlatinum said:

1) seriously? You're a fricking legend ranked player and you don't this? Fine I'll explain. We have this thing that we call rank brackets. The narrower they are the more balanced the battles are likely to be. However if they are wider, then the battles will likely to become unbalanced. That's why we see battles where an m2 brigadier and an m4 legend can be in one together and m3 possibly m4 brigadier in WO battles.

 

2) too Damn short to even have meaningful battles should be like 15 minutes like back in the day.

 

3) too long for some game modes.

 

4) changing from one mindset to another to another is pretty complicated for a game that's supposed to be all about simplicity.

5) very irrelevant point but whatever.

I'm a legend player, yes but I rarely get more than 2 players that are lower rank than generalissimo in my team.
Battle lenght is okay, imagine having to play 15 min MM battle and you're collecting stars. It would take normal player like 7-9 hours for 150 stars daily.


If you can't stand waiting more than 15 seconds for a gamemode, it's just your problem then because you aren't patient enough.

If it's hard for you to change from CTF to CP playing style then you shouldn't play tanki at all.
 

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4 hours ago, Escapee said:

I'm a legend player, yes but I rarely get more than 2 players that are lower rank than generalissimo in my team.
Battle lenght is okay, imagine having to play 15 min MM battle and you're collecting stars. It would take normal player like 7-9 hours for 150 stars daily.


If you can't stand waiting more than 15 seconds for a gamemode, it's just your problem then because you aren't patient enough.

If it's hard for you to change from CTF to CP playing style then you shouldn't play tanki at all.
 

My alt account, when it was Maj General, had to start playing against Legends because MM determined there were not enough players in the pool to have decent rank-spreads.  That's just ridiculous.

 

And this is a huge part of why battles today are sad.  Stars.  Players only ever care about stars.

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6 hours ago, Escapee said:

1) I'm a legend player, yes but I rarely get more than 2 players that are lower rank than generalissimo in my team.
2) Battle lenght is okay, imagine having to play 15 min MM battle and you're collecting stars. It would take normal player like 7-9 hours for 150 stars daily.


3) If you can't stand waiting more than 15 seconds for a gamemode, it's just your problem then because you aren't patient enough.

 

4) If it's hard for you to change from CTF to CP playing style then you shouldn't play tanki at all.
 

1) no duh Sherlock, that's because half of the player base (if not more) are legend rank. Try playing on an account as an LT General or lower, you'll probably even start to notice the difference in ranks.

 

2) stars are the reason why MM battles these days are total crap.

 

3) you're using quick battle, I'm choosing specific battles where I think exploiters aren't at. Huge difference here. It could also be because again you're a legend ranked player so it's probably easy for you to get into battles in 15 seconds. But I have to wait like 2-3 minutes, and sometimes as long as 20 minutes.

 

4) ok salty kid, calm down I was only stating facts.

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19 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

1) no duh Sherlock, that's because half of the player base (if not more) are legend rank. Try playing on an account as an LT General or lower, you'll probably even start to notice the difference in ranks.

 

2) stars are the reason why MM battles these days are total crap.

 

3) you're using quick battle, I'm choosing specific battles where I think exploiters aren't at. Huge difference here. It could also be because again you're a legend ranked player so it's probably easy for you to get into battles in 15 seconds. But I have to wait like 2-3 minutes, and sometimes as long as 20 minutes.

 

4) ok salty kid, calm down I was only stating facts.

no lol, stars and double fund is the reason why everyone plays MM.
They aren't giving us 2x battle fund for no reason.
And no I ain't salty, I love to oppose you.?

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47 minutes ago, Escapee said:

no lol, stars and double fund is the reason why everyone plays MM.
They aren't giving us 2x battle fund for no reason.
And no I ain't salty, I love to oppose you.?

Yeah you're not quite getting it.

 

Sure double funds and even triple funds help make the player base rise briefly, but at least they didn't make MM battles horrendous like stars do.

 

Stars are the reason why nowadays:

 

· Exploiters are everywhere.

· Theres little to no teamwork.

· Battles are so short, a lot of which are half over.

 

Sorry if you can't accept it but it's the truth.

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7 hours ago, DieselPlatinum said:

3) you're using quick battle, I'm choosing specific battles where I think exploiters aren't at. 

 

I think you mentioned exploiters vs those who play by the rules. Are there new hacks that people are using in low ranks?

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1 hour ago, Potdindy said:

I think you mentioned exploiters vs those who play by the rules. Are there new hacks that people are using in low ranks?

Why does everyone assume exploits mean hacks? They are not the same. Hacks are softwares that give players an edge that can't be obtained legally. Exploits are flaws in the game itself that the player uses to abuse to get an edge.

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4 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

Why does everyone assume exploits mean hacks? They are not the same. Hacks are softwares that give players an edge that can't be obtained legally. Exploits are flaws in the game itself that the player uses to abuse to get an edge.

Well you put exploits as opposed to following the rules, ergo, cheating, ergo hacking, unless there are some cheats that arent hacks

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3 minutes ago, Potdindy said:

Well you put exploits as opposed to following the rules, ergo, cheating, ergo hacking, unless there are some cheats that arent hacks

What I meant by "following the rules" is that those players don't abuse the games flaws for their own gain.

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7 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

What I meant by "following the rules" is that those players don't abuse the games flaws for their own gain.

Sure, what I mean is, specifically how are players abusing the game/cheating. I dont play much these days, but even then have yet to see someone cheat...ive seen lots of accusations, just not proof.

Edit: And I dont like a culture where lots of unfounded accusations fly, but maybe there's stuff I dont see...I am usually so focued in on not being noob, which is tough for me, so I dont see a lot

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1 minute ago, Potdindy said:

Sure, what I mean is, specifically how are players abusing the game/cheating. I dont play much these days, but even then have yet to see someone cheat...ive seen lots of accusations, just not proof

· Using OP/broken alterations and drones.

· Using cheap tactics like chasing a specific player all over the map just to kill them, spawn camping, plopping titans dome in enemy base.

 

· Using hard to reach areas to dominate even though that's the problem with some of the maps.

 

This is all I know.

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14 minutes ago, DieselPlatinum said:

· Using OP/broken alterations and drones.

· Using cheap tactics like chasing a specific player all over the map just to kill them, spawn camping, plopping titans dome in enemy base.

 

· Using hard to reach areas to dominate even though that's the problem with some of the maps.

 

This is all I know.

Ah...ok, I have two responses Im trying to decide between, so I'll give both.

Using drones and alterations is not cheating, altho maybe a mod can come here and let me know if I am wrong.

Chasing a specific player is annoying lol happens to me a bunch, but isnt cheating.

Same goes for spawn killing, altho thats more to be blamed on mults who dont put up a fight..its their job to clear the base. When my team is getting wrecked I go offensive and stay out of spawn so I can take on enemies 1v1.

I believe popping titan's dome in a strategic place is what you are supposed to do.

 

All that being said, I understand being on the receiving end of those, and it is frustrating. Thankfully, everyone has the ability to use the same tactics. Weekly containers give batteries each week along with containers, so if you are wise and dont waste, drones are your as well. Same goes with alts...and strats are not limited to anyone. Only you own personal rules keep you from using these strats, so remember you cant apply your rules to others, but you can compete!

 

Edit: Bruh you have a k/d way higher than mine...what are you even complaining about lel

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3 hours ago, Potdindy said:

Ah...ok, I have two responses Im trying to decide between, so I'll give both.

1) Using alterations is not cheating, altho maybe a mod can come here and let me know if I am wrong.

2) Chasing a specific player is annoying lol happens to me a bunch, but isnt cheating.

3) Same goes for spawn killing, altho thats more to be blamed on mults who dont put up a fight..its their job to clear the base. When my team is getting wrecked I go offensive and stay out of spawn so I can take on enemies 1v1.

4) I believe popping titan's dome in a strategic place is what you are supposed to do.

 

5) All that being said, I understand being on the receiving end of those, and it is frustrating. Thankfully, everyone has the ability to use the same tactics. Weekly containers give batteries each week along with containers, so if you are wise and dont waste, drones are your as well. Same goes with alts...and strats are not limited to anyone. Only you own personal rules keep you from using these strats, so remember you cant apply your rules to others, but you can compete!

 

6) Edit: Bruh you have a k/d way higher than mine...what are you even complaining about lel

1) then why are people just using specific alterations like duplet for hammer, LCR and scout for railgun, rapid fire mode for shaft, RGC and mortar for magnum, MFS for Rico, uranium for striker, incendiary band for Vulcan, stable plasma for twins? 

2) in my books if someone is chasing me, it means that a) they're desperate for kills b) they're a noob or c) they didn't have enough skills to beat me. So I just call them out.

3) this is still cheating, even though I think the cause of it is the first team loaded in and got into position ready to pounce on the unsuspecting enemy team.

4) thankfully I posted an idea of how to solve this problem.

5) I got like 3.5k batteries, nearly 5k repair kits and over 10k of the other supplies. So I have a very large amount of supplies. 

6) if I hadn't started camping in my teams base then it would've still been at 1.12 or even lower. Also my complaints are for the most part really reasonable.

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6 hours ago, DieselPlatinum said:

1) then why are people just using specific alterations like duplet for hammer, LCR and scout for railgun, rapid fire mode for shaft, RGC and mortar for magnum, MFS for Rico, uranium for striker, incendiary band for Vulcan, stable plasma for twins? 

2) in my books if someone is chasing me, it means that a) they're desperate for kills b) they're a noob or c) they didn't have enough skills to beat me. So I just call them out.

3) this is still cheating, even though I think the cause of it is the first team loaded in and got into position ready to pounce on the unsuspecting enemy team.

4) thankfully I posted an idea of how to solve this problem.

5) I got like 3.5k batteries, nearly 5k repair kits and over 10k of the other supplies. So I have a very large amount of supplies. 

6) if I hadn't started camping in my teams base then it would've still been at 1.12 or even lower. Also my complaints are for the most part really reasonable.

People use alts bc there are good...at least thats why I use them, anyway. Altho some of those you listed arent great..RFM for shaft is meh, uranium got nerfed ect.

 

As for 3), is there a way to tag a mod so we can ask for an official response as to if this is cheating or not. Then we can put it to bed. @Maf Figured it out

 

Any sorry I derailed this. Siege is great! Lots of fun and requires teams to play together to cap points

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44 minutes ago, Potdindy said:

People use alts bc there are good...at least thats why I use them, anyway. Altho some of those you listed arent great..RFM for shaft is meh, uranium got nerfed ect.

 

As for 3), is there a way to tag a mod so we can ask for an official response as to if this is cheating or not. Then we can put it to bed. @Maf Figured it out

 

Any sorry I derailed this. Siege is great! Lots of fun and requires teams to play together to cap points

 

I don't think you can call (3) cheating, but at least it's not a fair play.  Devs should find a way to hold the fast connections and let the game starts at the same time like a football or any other sports.

 

The players who load faster just exploit this and create an advantage in the early stage.  The devs should look into it and correct it long ago.

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4 hours ago, Potdindy said:

1) People use alts bc there are good...at least thats why I use them, anyway. Altho some of those you listed arent great..RFM for shaft is meh, uranium got nerfed ect.

 

 

 

2) Any sorry I derailed this. Siege is great! Lots of fun and requires teams to play together to cap points

1) just to remind you. Alterations are not supposed to be better than their stock counterpart.

 

2) teamwork is literally non-existent in siege.

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5 hours ago, Escapee said:

If you ask me, drones should be nerfed/removed.

Most of the items added between 2013-2018 should be removed.  Nerfing them is just denial (minimize their bad impacts to battles.  Removing them is the right way to accept the initial faults. ??

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I love using the Hornet+Gauss+Overdrive+Booster in Siege, but I admit it's way too OP and very common in Siege with multiple players using this combo in each team. I hope they don't nerf Hornet's OD but it seems very likely they'll do something about it, after seeing what they did to Mammoth's OD after last Halloween.

 

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3 hours ago, Alklines said:

I love using the Hornet+Gauss+Overdrive+Booster in Siege, but I admit it's way too OP and very common in Siege with multiple players using this combo in each team. I hope they don't nerf Hornet's OD but it seems very likely they'll do something about it, after seeing what they did to Mammoth's OD after last Halloween.

Titans are also common. I'm more concerned about Titan. Some players complain that it is too powerful. My opinion? For an Overdrive that takes the 2nd longest time to fully charge, it has a lot of counters, namely Hornet and Hunter being the most effective. And they both take the same time to fully charge, although Hunter would have a faster expected recharge time (factoring in general survivability and ability to get back into the action quickly). 

 

I see players calling for its healing feature to be removed, well then that would make Viking a moderate counter and Wasp a bigger threat than it currently is. Titan's Overdrive is just...weird like that. 

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On 12/21/2019 at 5:28 PM, wolverine848 said:

All these new battle-modes water down the player-pool available per mode.  So you either wait a long time or end up in battles with a crazy wide rank-spread.

 

These new modes need to be placed in Pro-Battles (which no longer cost anything to play) so the basic modes CTF/TDM/CP have a decent-sized player pool.

Just play "quick battle" if you don't want to wait.

 

We don't wait a long time because of all the new modes. We wait a long time because the maximum number of players online at the same time went from 40K in January to 16K now.

 

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