Happy New Year 2020!

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, AbsoluteZero said:

I wouldn't give a hull anything - no other hulls get special status. The reason they'll state is for giving it extra points is to encourage the player using it to share its effects with others. If they want players to use it more then they should give the overdrive some additional feature, eg, drop more mines for the player who presses shift or give it 3 seconds of God Mode.  Additional features worked for Hunter's popularity so why this for Dicator?

 

Tanki do this type of thing every year and that's why I'm so sceptical about their motives. It's really put me off playing.

You mean replace the shared OD/supply boost with something else?

Without points for sharing, the Dictators will just stop sharing - they will boost their own supplies to enhance their own individual performance. With Challenges and Stars it's all about where you finish within your team - not if your team wins...

Currently 25 is too much.  10-15 would be more reasonable.

[Bahkunkul 100]

As mentioned by AbsoluteZero and ILLUSION-ZONE the game doesn't need your skills and years of experience to use to win the battle anymore, in ASL mode you should equip a Dictator and share your overdrive with your teammates as well as using a mechanic drone, which gives you advantage to fill your overdrive faster than normal players. It's impossible to earn more scores and finish battles in the 1st place unless you are using dictator (at least on the defense side). Also, you can get scores with the dictator when others are trying their best to achieve something and catch up with Dictators. It's terrible that you can get 1500 - 2000 scores without any effort, the only thing that you need is pressing 1 and share repair kit effect on nearby allies and then share your overdrive with your teammates, when others try their best to earn at least quarter of these scores... Since this update our skill has no matter, even a beginner can easily get scores over one thousand and get into top 100 efficiency rating, and there is one player as told about him above, I shouldn't mention his name who got a superb E/C ratio this week, because he has been used dictator and didn't need to do so much, this way it's impossible to overtake him. 

[r_Spytank2 129]

14 hours ago, Invitation said:

yeah hornets OD is indeed the best

...Welp, I still don't see how.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

2 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

You mean replace the shared OD/supply boost with something else?

Without points for sharing, the Dictators will just stop sharing - they will boost their own supplies to enhance their own individual performance. With Challenges and Stars it's all about where you finish within your team - not if your team wins...

Currently 25 is too much.  10-15 would be more reasonable.

1pt is too much in my honest opinion. No other hull gets points for using their overdrive so why should Dictator? They have the ability to share if they so wish just as a player can choose or not to use their overdrive at any given point.  If they want extra points then use mechanic, engineer, supplier etc. It's their choice.

 

And no, not replace, add to. I'm not saying take the current effects from Dicator, rather give it additional features instead.  Encouragement for sharing should not come by way of free extra score points. Why not just give Dictator one more effect instead of points? Even then I'm opposed to that. It already has everything it needs.  Why not just improve its stats in the garage if it's just a matter of popularity, ie, better top speed, hp etc

 

Right now, many Dictator players are ignoring the game mode they are in and are just focusing on sharing their o/d just for the points which have no experience attached.

In CP, Siege or ASL, players can make 125pts or more just for pressing shift. Some players don't get this all battle.

5, 10 or 15 pts would still be too much.

 

 

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

Now economy of tanki is JUST PERFECT with new dictator OD..

 

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

3 hours ago, AbsoluteZero said:

1pt is too much in my honest opinion. No other hull gets points for using their overdrive so why should Dictator? They have the ability to share if they so wish just as a player can choose or not to use their overdrive at any given point.  If they want extra points then use mechanic, engineer, supplier etc. It's their choice.

 

And no, not replace, add to. I'm not saying take the current effects from Dicator, rather give it additional features instead.  Encouragement for sharing should not come by way of free extra score points. Why not just give Dictator one more effect instead of points? Even then I'm opposed to that. It already has everything it needs.  Why not just improve its stats in the garage if it's just a matter of popularity, ie, better top speed, hp etc

 

Right now, many Dictator players are ignoring the game mode they are in and are just focusing on sharing their o/d just for the points which have no experience attached.

In CP, Siege or ASL, players can make 125pts or more just for pressing shift. Some players don't get this all battle.

5, 10 or 15 pts would still be too much.

 

Then in todays tanki, the sharing would decrease for sure.  Why help your neighbor (to score ahead of you) when you can help yourself alone.  Not saying it's right - that's just how it would be under your version.

 

Also not sure how you single out Dictators for "ignoring the game mode".  Any OD that enhances killing a tank is now encouraging players to just play TDM - regardless of the mode they are actually in.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

Then in todays tanki, the sharing would decrease for sure.  Why help your neighbor (to score ahead of you) when you can help yourself alone.  Not saying it's right - that's just how it would be under your version.

 

Also not sure how you single out Dictators for "ignoring the game mode".  Any OD that enhances killing a tank is now encouraging players to just play TDM - regardless of the mode they are actually in.

 

Then you haven't listened to a word I said.

 

4 hours ago, AbsoluteZero said:

Encouragement for sharing should not come by way of free extra score points. Why not just give Dictator one more effect instead of points?

 

8 hours ago, AbsoluteZero said:

The reason they'll state is for giving it extra points is to encourage the player using it to share its effects with others. If they want players to use it more then they should give the overdrive some additional feature, eg, drop more mines for the player who presses shift or give it 3 seconds of God Mode

 

Why then don't we give 25pts for everyone that a titan's dome protects? They hardly get anything from their overdrive whereas dictator gets new health, full drugs, slows the enemy like freeze does and drops a mine not to mention has the bonus ability to share that if it feels like. The point is, if this was truly about sharing, tanki would have offered the same to Titan. Just because Dictator is unique in that sense, it shouldn't give it the right to earn points too. That's what drones are for. This additional bonus effect of shairng should be enough for it's popularity to increase but if not, let tanki give the thing a buff instead because that's what we're used to seeing when income is down on one thing or another.

 

Dictator gets far more than Titan does and they're both sharing overdrives.  Every other hull seems to get something personal in return.

 

I've been telling everyone that cares to listen, every game mode has been TDM for a long time now and that's the reason I have been playing TDM mostly but since Dictator gets 25pts for pressing shift (you know what I mean), I've seen them ignoring flag captures just so they can share their overdrive with as many players as possible. Once that star is shown above their tank, they're not interested in sharing with 1 player or even no players, they want the points from as many players as possible for sure, even if it means losing the battle. Don't tell me this isn't what's happening because I've witnessed it on many occassions.

Edited January 5, 2020 by AbsoluteZero

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, AbsoluteZero said:

 

Then you haven't listened to a word I said.

 

Why then don't we give 25pts for everyone that a titan's dome protects? They hardly get anything from their overdrive whereas dictator gets new health, full drugs, slows the enemy like freeze does and drops a mine not to mention has the bonus ability to share that if it feels like. The point is, if this was truly about sharing, tanki would have offered the same to Titan. Just because Dictator is unique in that sense, it shouldn't give it the right to earn points too. That's what drones are for. This additional bonus effect of shairng should be enough for it's popularity to increase but if not, let tanki give the thing a buff instead because that's what we're used to seeing when income is down on one thing or another.

 

Dictator gets far more than Titan does and they're both sharing overdrives.  Every other hull seems to get something personal in return.

 

I've been telling everyone that cares to listen, every game mode has been TDM for a long time now and that's the reason I have been playing TDM mostly but since Dictator gets 25pts for pressing shift (you know what I mean), I've seen them ignoring flag captures just so they can share their overdrive with as many players as possible. Once that star is shown above their tank, they're not interested in sharing with 1 player or even no players, they want the points from as many players as possible for sure, even if it means losing the battle. Don't tell me this isn't what's happening because I've witnessed it on many occassions.

I read your post. I just don't share your opinion on everything.

Titan sharing and Dictator "sharing" are very different and you know it.

It's not just supplies - it's the OD boost as well.  Those two combined allow individual tanks to do far more than sitting in the dome getting damage reduction.  5 tanks all boosted?  All with ODs now primed as well?

If you can't differentiate the two - you have tunnel vision.

 

More features instead of tweaking the "award"?  It's got enough different features as it is.  Lower it to 10 pts and let's see what happens.  Still some incentive - but not a ridiculous one.

Edited January 6, 2020 by wolverine848

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

38 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Titan sharing and Dictator "sharing" are very different and you know it.

Of course they are, didn't you read my post?

You're cherry picking.

 

The only player who benefits directly from a viking overdrive is the player that activated it.

The only player who benefits directly from a hornet overdrive is the player that activated it.

The only player who benefits directly from a mammoth overdrive is the player that activated it.

The only player who benefits directly from a wasp overdrive is the player that activated it.

... etc

 

but

Dictator and Titan can share the effects of their overdrives but Dictator can choose not to but somehow it gets the 25 points deal whereas the titan player gets nothing. Why is this? Don't pretend you don't understand this. 

 

Why should any hull get preferential treatment simply for pressing shift?

 

Maybe Viking should get a bonus 25 pts for everyone it destroys when its overdrive is active then.

Maybe Wasp should get a bonus 25 pts for everyone it destroys with its bomb.

Maybe Hunter should get a bonus 25 pts for every tank it freezes or flag it returns.

Maybe Mammoth should get a bonus 25 pts for every tank it destroys while its overdrive is active.

... etc

 

Why not?

 

I'm taking 6 months off this game now. I left this game last year mainly for health reasons after a major operation and I only returned because friends started playing again. Nothing changes in this game except the greed and trasparancy of developers actions.

 

I'll update the druggers and efficiency posts for as long as I can tolerate. Bye all.

 

[wolverine848 13,097]

54 minutes ago, AbsoluteZero said:

Of course they are, didn't you read my post?

You're cherry picking.

 

The only player who benefits directly from a viking overdrive is the player that activated it.

The only player who benefits directly from a hornet overdrive is the player that activated it.

The only player who benefits directly from a mammoth overdrive is the player that activated it.

The only player who benefits directly from a wasp overdrive is the player that activated it.

... etc

 

but

Dictator and Titan can share the effects of their overdrives but Dictator can choose not to but somehow it gets the 25 points deal whereas the titan player gets nothing. Why is this? Don't pretend you don't understand this. 

 

Why should any hull get preferential treatment simply for pressing shift?

Maybe Viking should get a bonus 25 pts for everyone it destroys when its overdrive is active then.

Maybe Wasp should get a bonus 25 pts for everyone it destroys with its bomb.

Maybe Hunter should get a bonus 25 pts for every tank it freezes or flag it returns.

Maybe Mammoth should get a bonus 25 pts for every tank it destroys while its overdrive is active.

... etc

 

Why not?

 

I'm taking 6 months off this game now. I left this game last year mainly for health reasons after a major operation and I only returned because friends started playing again. Nothing changes in this game except the greed and trasparancy of developers actions.

 

I'll update the druggers and efficiency posts for as long as I can tolerate. Bye all.

 

"Why not?"

Because the sharing is lopsided in a HUGE way.  The benefit of Dictator sharing far outweighs the benefit of sitting in someone else's stationary dome.  Heck a "friendly" Titan could immediately have access to it's own dome after this boost - in addition to all supplies.

 

As for the other ODs... many of them grant a score by ridiculously easy enhanced killing.  Hornet OD one-shotting medium hulls for 20 seconds.  That's some easy "scoring".  Same with Viking.  And mammoth too - there's no resisting the death-zap.  Wasp about to die in a close encounter?  Drop the bomb.  Automatic kill.  More if others around.

[TheCongoSpider 8,962]

13 hours ago, AbsoluteZero said:

The only player who benefits directly from a hornet overdrive is the player that activated it.

The Hornet's teammates receive 2 of the 3 benefits from Hornet's Overdrive. 

[Viking4s 10,791]

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

4 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

The Hornet's teammates receive 2 of the 3 benefits from Hornet's Overdrive. 

even more reason to give it a 25 pts deal.

[Okami 3,041]

Dictator got a huge buff, but if the feature for the bonus 25 score (does it add to your exp?) is kept, there need to be some nerfs. I'm thinking removing the freezing of enemies, and reducing the non-Dictator teammates' od boost to 25% instead of 50%. 50% is a lot, especially for Vikings.

[wolverine848 13,097]

1 hour ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

Dictator got a huge buff, but if the feature for the bonus 25 score (does it add to your exp?) is kept, there need to be some nerfs. I'm thinking removing the freezing of enemies, and reducing the non-Dictator teammates' od boost to 25% instead of 50%. 50% is a lot, especially for Vikings.

Or they could just lower the shared-score awarded to 10 pts per tank.  25 is obviously too much.

And lowering the OD boost won't slow down the Dictator from continued sharing (and continued high scoring) since the Dictator does not benefit from the boost.

[TheCongoSpider 8,962]

2 hours ago, GrayWolf8733 said:

Dictator got a huge buff, but if the feature for the bonus 25 score (does it add to your exp?) is kept, there need to be some nerfs. I'm thinking removing the freezing of enemies, and reducing the non-Dictator teammates' od boost to 25% instead of 50%. 50% is a lot, especially for Vikings.

That would probably decrease their average score only a little bit, not enough to stop them from topping the board constantly. If they got 5 Overdrive per game currently, then with your change, they'd still be getting 5 Overdrives because nothing was changed to the Overdrive charge rate or the % charge accumulation for actions. If they are to keep it at 25 score, then it would need to see fewer Overdrives per game. 

[Invitation 18]

On 1/5/2020 at 9:04 AM, r_Spytank2 said:

...Welp, I still don't see how.

ignores protections and drones like defender

ignores players supplies

ignores the 0 damage spawn-kill protection

reloads fast.

Whats the issue??

[TheCongoSpider 8,962]

12 hours ago, Invitation said:

Whats the issue??

The fact that you're made out of glass while having all of these features. 

[wolverine848 13,097]

3 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

The fact that you're made out of glass while having all of these features. 

That's why 90% of them are mounted with long-range turrets like Rail, Gauss, Shaft and Magnum.  They don't need to go into the dirty areas where they are less likely to survive the 20 seconds of OD.