What Is Your Opinion About the Current State of Tanki Online?

[Jeers4U 665]

On 7/31/2024 at 8:19 AM, FLIPSTIKS said:

There are many more reasons why this game has declined in popularity among the players that still play it.

 

The hilarious (but yet not) thing about the people who run this game is that they design it to put you into an unpleasant state of stress in order to get you to buy things.

And then are completely surprised when people are unhappy while being here. It's reflected by posts and chats.

And eventually, people stop coming here to be put INTO that unpleasant state.

Psychology 101.

Tanki isn't the stress-release that it used to be.

It's a cash-cow for the people who own it. Nothing more, nothing less.

And those who still pay for this game are true addicts of some sort.

 

[FLIPSTIKS 136]

TCSOTO=0.50 

Servers down, bugs, glitches, getting error every time, all premium wasted, access to sales wasted and on top of all that, the game is just far to expensive to upgrade to any sufficient level as you go through the ranks. Unless you are a HEAVY BUYER and I'm going to guess that maybe 1/50 players are, then ranking in this game is very detrimental to your garage.

When you start getting to the business end of the ranks, colonel/brigadier, MK6/7 when MM throws you in with very high ranks a lot of the time, the amount of crystals needed to upgrade all protections, your favourite combo and maybe maxing out your favourite drone is ASTRONOMICAL.

I have just worked out on a brigadier account how much it will cost WITH A 50% SALE to max out my modules only. I have not included spider or the ULTRA.... (USELESS, because of augments)....expensive armadillo module, which are both at zero upgrades. I added up all my upgrades for each module and divided it by 16, which gave me an average of just over 16.50% per module, so lets call it 17%. That is 511.000 x 16 = 8.176.000 crystals or 12.782 tk and that's just modules. My favourite combo's, I have 2, are maxed out at MK5, which against my own ranks, give or take 2 ranks either way is adequate, yielding decent results in battle.

The conundrum here is that trying to achieve the IMPOSSIBLE, (acquiring enough crystals for upgrading) means that you are only going to rank way, way beyond your capabilities to compete with each new rank you achieve and never, ever have enough cry for the upgrades you need. It's a vicious circle, which unless you spend a load of cash, WILL CONTINUE to be a vicious circle, regardless how good you are. 

Let's remember that this IS NOT factoring in tankoins needed to buy the early access MK7s from the shop and then needing millions of more crystals to upgrade the newly acquired MK7s/turret/hull and that is just 1 early access combo, not two. This is on the premise that you have any TKs spare for the shop.

Unless you are a heavy buyer or already have a maxed out or highly upgraded LEGEND account, then this game is not really viable to play with any amount of competitive, enjoyable game play for those players at the low to mid ranks. The economy of this game is SEVERELY BIASED against these ranks and I for one will not spend huge amounts of cash just to compete in a game that 1, changes it's parameters/mechanics on a frequent basis. 2, Has major issues with errors, and 3, never acts on any player feedback that would enhance the overall experience, balance and enjoyment of the game. 

I have already stated NUMEROUS times how game play for the low to mid ranks can be drastically improved by increasing the amount of XP needed to rank by at least a factor of two and by giving twice the amount of CRY/XP in battles. This would categorically and undeniably also improve the woeful MM system. This is because every player would have more time to save crystals and because of the longer period of time spent at a specific rank, your chances of competing against your own rank is vastly increased.

I would also add that because your playing against your own ranks, it would incentivise/encourage players to maybe spend some cash, knowing that it will be worth it because of the ability to enhance your garage because of the changes I have proposed. This would offset any cash spent on the game because your getting more for the cash you spend and in my opinion, it WOULD NOT break the economy of the game, rather it would enhance it, because more players (I include myself in this) would be inclined to spend, because it would be worth it.                       

I can't put this any more clearly......

The game at present is a error ridden, OP cash infested grind and just not worth the time and effort you have to put in to basically go BACKWARDS every time you rank.

 

[AzaborBR 128]

If I said what I think about this game, about DEVS and its current state, I would go to jail, so I will remain silent.

[Jeers4U 665]

I have an honest question for the admins and the mods.

 

Why are you still here?

 

Still love the game?

Nothing better to do?

Habit?

Perks?

Other?

 

Like, I'm legit asking why.

(And please, no one flame their answers)

Edited August 6, 2024 by Jeers4U

[rus0806 265]

On 8/7/2024 at 8:43 AM, Jeers4U said:

I have an honest question for the admins and the mods.

 

Why are you still here?

 

Still love the game?

Nothing better to do?

Habit?

Perks?

Other?

 

Like, I'm legit asking why.

(And please, no one flame their answers)

Do you want the truth?

- Some (but very few) want to actually help the game become better

- Most just want to have special rare paints to flex and extra tankoins and crystals to spend during sales

- Many also have other helpers as their only friends, so they need to remain a helper in order to keep in touch with them

- A few love the power they have over the normal players, and the ability to ban/tell people what to do

 

Other than these reasons? There really isn't any point in becoming a helper. 

[Jeers4U 665]

On 8/7/2024 at 9:36 AM, rus0806 said:

Do you want the truth?

Thank you for the reply

I was just wondering

Edited August 10, 2024 by Jeers4U

[FLIPSTIKS 136]

The current state! I hardly play now because It's becoming tedious.  Get rid of augments and the trash cans and it will be less of a unenjoyable grind.

As for actual battles, still glitching, but not as bad.

The mark has went up a few notches from 0.50 to a 4.

It will "NEVER" reach 10. The best it will ever get from me is a 6, maybe a 7 if they erase augments and trash cans from the game.

Even the forum is dead as a coffin nail, much like the game itself.

Get rid of trash cans, get rid of augments, lower your huge price tags in the "JOKE SHOP", start acting on genuine player feedback and see a marked difference in the game as a whole across the board. 

The game (less glitches/errors) may have climbed the dizzy heights out of 10 to a 4, but the enjoyment factor has, for me, nose dived considerably, hence I'm not even bothered about completing missions or any special mission and as for their cyber tank event, not a chance.

TCSOTO-it's never been as bad, but I'm sure it will get much worse in the coming months.   

 

[Jeers4U 665]

They still have a lot of bugs to work out with the massive amounts of bots in the battles.

I mean.

Shot hits you.

A second passes.

And then tanki decides it was a critical hit.

 

The beauty of having bots from tanki's perspective is that they can decide when a real player's tank gets destroyed and when it doesn't--based on no real tanki mechanics.

Just random.

1 you die.

2 you don't.

And you can't challenge it or even dispute it because you don't know.

 

You don't even know if it is a real hit.

Or a real miss.

[alkyng 3,080]

Tanki, we already know that missions are stupidly slow. Why don't you put all the missions in one single tab? or at least just 3 tabs like they used to be? ... Also why the fake dots? why do I have to hover over them all and wait a couple of seconds for each fake dot?

https://imgur.com/VRlVPiO

[FLIPSTIKS 136]

It just gets worse with every passing day.

I want to know why lower ranked players can't have protections available before GENERAL. It's pathetic going into battle with no prots, or at the very most 1/3 prots.

I see no point playing my warrant officers accounts, I have 3, just to get obliterated by players that are usually way higher than my rank. They are all on hold until prots become available for lower ranks. Also the price to upgrade is way to high for everything, not just prots.

TCSOTO now = 3. Bring back protections for the lower ranks. 

[Sharva 89]

Well, the current state of Tanki Online is... I'd say just fine. Not so bad, but not good either. This is mainly because of these reasons:-

1. The topmost and the biggest reason is that they have started to add so many broken augments and all in the game, which only buyers can get most of the time. We literally witness some new augments getting added to the game almost every single week. And most of them are just status effect augments, nothing special... Because of this, the game is getting more and more P2W nowadays, slowly but surely. It's not unplayable though...

2. Another big and disappointing change that they made some years ago was removing the old (and now nostalgic) M0, M1, M2 and M3 skins of turrets and hulls from the game. It was literally for getting these skins that I used to play the game a lot back in those days. I didn't have any M3 (or MK7) turret or hull unlocked, and it was my dream to play with them (mainly because of those skins and their shot effects). Well, after that change, I was able to play with those skins, but it didn't feel so special after maybe 1-2 days, because I hadn't earned them, I had got them. It just didn't feel like an achievement. Moreover, it was not only the M3 skins which I liked, I liked the M0, M1 and M2 skins as well, because after all they were the skins which made the M3 skins feel truly special.

3. Another reason for the game feeling so-so currently is that the devs have made the game a lot easier compared to its earlier version (the Flash version). By easier, I mean now it is so easy to unlock unique skins and get Mk7 turrets, hulls, and Mk7 equipment in general. Due to this, it doesn't feel like a huge achievement when you unlock any skin, or max-upgrade any of your turrets or hulls, unlike the good old days.

4. Fourth reason is that the events in the current Tanki Online last much longer in comparison to the old Tanki, which gets boring. The events include special game modes, discounts in the garage, and all... And as far as I remember, earlier in Tanki Online, the discounts in the garage used to occur rarely than those that occur in the current Tanki Online. In the current Tanki, we have a 30% (and sometimes 50%) discount in the garage almost every 2-3 weeks, which lessens its worth. Same is the case with special game modes and events. Events which last for 3-4 weeks are just tedious, and again, they don't feel special.

5. This reason is related to the 4th reason. It's that recently Tanki devs have even started to make us pay 700 Tankoins on event passes to participate in events. I mean come on man, we should at least be able to participate in events for free. And 700 Tankoins isn't a small amount for F2P players like me. It takes months to collect 700 Tankoins once, and they make us pay the same 700 Tankoins for an event pass, in order to participate in an event. It's like months of your hard-work is gone in the blink of an eye. I don't know why they implemented this change, and I highly disagree with it. And the worst part is that I can't even post about it in the Ideas and Suggestions section of the forum, as they will just reject the suggestion saying that they don't accept ideas or suggestions regarding the reversion of updates 

Nevertheless, Tanki is still a fun-to-play game and can be improved a lot if they make the correct changes.

[Biome 166]

The current state is the best we have ever seen thanks to the incredible work of all the leaders in the development team and all the behind the scenes people working hard everyday to help us enjoy!!!! Thank you so much Tanki Developers!

[Jeers4U 665]

Absolute garbage.

Bots get in the way, stop moving at ramps, are terrible 'team mates', do not do the mission, sit there inactive for minutes at a time. And I've never been shot more times by my own bot-team ever in the history of the universe.

Enemy bots seem to have become indestructible to compensate for being bots as a damaged-boosted shaft sniper-shot doesn't destroy tanks it usually did, and bots seem to be 10x more accurate than real players, heck, they don't even have to be aiming in the general direction of the tank it's trying to hit and yet still score a crit.

They respawn at lightning speed, and seem to be able to drive backwards, unharmed through enemy territory.

And lets not forget the mines. Evidently, they can drive over multiple mines without either setting them off or being destroyed.

 

And I guess instead of adding an 8k enemy to 'even the battle', you just turn off or dumb-down the bot AI.

Am I correct?

Oh. I stand corrected. Tanki still puts the 8k tank on the other team. I guess when there are only one hundred total players playing on any given day, there isn't much you can do.

I cannot figure out how this course of action makes tanki more money. It just gives the appearance of more 'accounts'.

Can. Not. Wait.

 

Edited September 5, 2024 by Jeers4U
C.N.W.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

I haven't logged in for a week and my GS has gone from 9999 to 8999. What have they changed now?

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 9/7/2024 at 2:11 PM, ghost-guns said:

I haven't logged in for a week and my GS has gone from 9999 to 8999. What have they changed now?

Grenades are here. They contribute 1,000 in total. 

[Jeers4U 665]

My opinion is that if you're just going to delete all the posts anyways, why have the forum at all?

Why not just delete every single thread except the compliments thread?

And just have no comments allowed on the patches/updates thread?

That is my opinion on the current state of tanki online.

[Xsader 37]

On 9/4/2024 at 6:52 PM, Jeers4U said:

Absolute garbage.

Bots get in the way, stop moving at ramps, are terrible 'team mates', do not do the mission, sit there inactive for minutes at a time. And I've never been shot more times by my own bot-team ever in the history of the universe.

Enemy bots seem to have become indestructible to compensate for being bots as a damaged-boosted shaft sniper-shot doesn't destroy tanks it usually did, and bots seem to be 10x more accurate than real players, heck, they don't even have to be aiming in the general direction of the tank it's trying to hit and yet still score a crit.

They respawn at lightning speed, and seem to be able to drive backwards, unharmed through enemy territory.

And lets not forget the mines. Evidently, they can drive over multiple mines without either setting them off or being destroyed.

....

 

These are simply noobs and/or hackers - there clearly can never be any bots in Tanki, because having only real players is the very core and the essence of TO and this ultimately defines the game ... remember the adertisement

Only real players – come together with people from all around the world, play and talk to them, invite your friends and make new ones. 

[Jeers4U 665]

On 9/17/2024 at 7:06 AM, Xsader said:

There clearly can never be any bots in Tanki,

You realize they actually DO have bots, right? Like... you DIDN'T know this...? It isn't a secret.

 

On 9/17/2024 at 7:06 AM, Xsader said:

having only real players is the very core and the essence of TO and this ultimately defines the game ... remember the adertisement

Greed defines the game now--nothing more, nothing less. THAT is the very 'core and essence' of TO now.

And advertisements lie. Snake-oil salesmen have been 'advertising' their fake products for money for forever (in one form or another).

In fact, when you buy a turret and it gets nerfed a month or two later, some would say that tanki lied about the turret's stats when you bought it...

It's like buying a 'porche' and realizing it's a lada after you drive it for 2 months...

 

On 9/17/2024 at 7:06 AM, Xsader said:

Only real players – come together with people from all around the world, play and talk to them, invite your friends and make new ones. 

Very altruistic. This doesn't happen anymore.

That actually sounds like a quote from the tanki archives somewhere designed to lure noobs in to play the game.

(Unless you are being sarcastic)

 

On 9/17/2024 at 7:06 AM, Xsader said:

These are simply (noobs and/or) hackers

Tanki doesn't have hackers. There is a place to report them on the russian forum somewhere. So how could there possibly be any hackers?

Are you implying that the hacking reporting system is less than perfect? Are you implying that tanki doesn't care about hackers within its game--upsetting the delicate balance of players and teams for their own benefit and boredom alleviation??? Are you saying that the devs have done a sub-par job at preventing hackers from entering the game if they are still present in vast numbers after a decade???

Pish posh, I say.

 

But then... you've been here for a while, haven't you?

Especially if you knew the complaint thread started in 2020...

 

Edited September 17, 2024 by Jeers4U

[Xsader 37]

I've been here since the pre-shaft era (though I haven't played in  the current circus for years and don't even bother to enter a "battle").

Yet, I know very well what are the core and the essentials of Tanki Online - one currency and only real players being the prominent !

If any of these is altered, then the resulting game is no longer Tanki Online !

It's not the name that defines something, it's the inherent and consistent virtues of it.

If you write 100 USD on a piece of paper, it will not become a valid 100 USD bill ...  same - if you label a game Tanki Online, but it doesn't stand on the basic principles of the original, then clearly this game is not Tanki Online, regardless of the brand ...

[FLIPSTIKS 136]

On 8/24/2024 at 3:42 AM, Sharva said:

Well, the current state of Tanki Online is... I'd say just fine.

No it's not. 

 

On 8/24/2024 at 3:42 AM, Sharva said:

It's not unplayable though.

For the most part, yes it is, especially at the lower ranks. I gave up playing at the Legend ranks for numerous reasons, the main two being augments and trashcans.

 

On 8/24/2024 at 3:42 AM, Sharva said:

Events which last for 3-4 weeks are just tedious,

Agree.

 

On 8/24/2024 at 3:42 AM, Sharva said:

and again, they don't feel special

They never were unless your addicted to the game itself, which many are, but would never admit it.

 

On 8/24/2024 at 3:42 AM, Sharva said:

It takes months to collect 700 Tankoins once, and they make us pay the same 700 Tankoins for an event pass, in order to participate in an event.

They don't make you or anyone else do anything concerning the game. 

They rely on addiction and a players de-fault setting to want to be/do the best they can in every battle.

The above statement is the brainwashing part of games like this and once you fall into this addiction, which they manipulate players with from the very start of making an account, then you are stuffed and easy prey for their scam cash grabs.

On 8/24/2024 at 3:42 AM, Sharva said:

Nevertheless, Tanki is still a fun-to-play game

No it's not.

 

On 8/24/2024 at 3:42 AM, Sharva said:

and can be improved a lot

Agree.

 

On 8/24/2024 at 3:42 AM, Sharva said:

if they make the correct changes.

For the benefit of players, NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.

 

On 9/7/2024 at 10:02 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

Grenades are here. They contribute 1,000 in total.

More manipulative mind games.

Most players who have a G/S of 9999 just can't comprehend entering a battle without feeling superior with their 9999, it's just unthinkable.

On 9/17/2024 at 12:06 PM, Xsader said:

Only real players – come together with people from all around the world, play and talk to them, invite your friends and make new ones. 

Hyped drivel.

 

On 9/18/2024 at 9:35 AM, Xsader said:

if you label a game Tanki Online, but it doesn't stand on the basic principles of the original, then clearly this game is not Tanki Online, regardless of the brand ...

They will cite TO moves with the times, hence all the "modern" changes and all for the benefit of the players, which of course is a blatant lie.

Any and all changes are made for cash grab reasons, nothing else. Of course they will make most of them super, duper cool to entice the gullible and easily led, mostly buyers and kids.

TO has hit rock bottom and will only get worse as the months go by.

TCSOTO = I really don't care what they do anymore as it's just OP, CASH GRAB crap. This equates to below zero were it probably will remain for a very, very long time.

[Jeers4U 665]

Thank you so much, Tanki developers for this great game and for giving us exactly what the owners and shareholders want when you maximize profits and reduce the fun of the game to almost zero!!

 

 

[Dayzed 30]

My opinion is now that bots have reached a decent level of competence  Tanki no longer needs its original meat bots (also known as free to play players). 

I think there was always a contempt for free to play and even small buyers but they don't need to hide it anymore, they have been replaced by bots.

If you were genuinely to explain to someone why to play I can't think of a reason anymore, think it is gone beyond fixable.

Strategy, skill, teamwork appear to be gone, long gone. 

Obviously it is entertaining some people and good luck to them, just not my cup of tea anymore.

 

[Jeers4U 665]

On 9/20/2024 at 6:31 PM, Dayzed said:

My opinion is now that bots have reached a decent level of competence

But they haven't.

They're just more difficult to destroy. And they inflict more damage. That's it.

Any hack can increase the amount of damage bots do--or decrease the amount of damage taken--by just changing a number in the programming.

That's it.

 

They still don't participate in the mission.

Heck, they even drive right past each other without shooting a lot of the time.

They respawn at light speed as well.

 

My favorite is that one tank that always drives backwards into enemy territory with full health.

That part isn't AI, my dude. That's just number manipulation.

 

****Just played a game where our Juggerjoke spent the majority of the game shooting a shaft on our own team. So, no, it isn't a decent of level of competence****

Edited September 21, 2024 by Jeers4U

[FLIPSTIKS 136]

On 9/20/2024 at 11:31 PM, Dayzed said:

My opinion is now that bots have reached a decent level of competence

Er no they haven't.

They are still pathetically useless. All they do is get in the way and pick up valuable supplies, usually the overdrive box.

Bots are just another annoyance, like augments and the trash cans.

On 9/20/2024 at 11:31 PM, Dayzed said:

Strategy, skill, teamwork appear to be gone, long gone. 

Teamwork went years ago.

Skill disappeared to a great degree when augments came into the game.

On 9/21/2024 at 1:27 AM, Jeers4U said:

They're just more difficult to destroy. And they inflict more damage. That's it.

Agree.

It seems to take an age to kill even a wasp/fire with a maxed out magnum and DD.

TCSOTO=GARBAGE.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 9/22/2024 at 4:05 PM, FLIPSTIKS said:

TCSOTO

What is this?